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#121 Sunil Arora: Jul 08, 2009 08:44:32

#121 Sunil Arora: Jul 08, 2009 08:44:32

"They’ve approached Ratan to become the chairman of that advisory committee"

Sunil Arora : Hello.
Niira Radia: Sunil Hi.
SA: Haanji.
NR: Sunil sorry , I’m sorry, I’m so hung up on my court case na..
SA: Nahin nahin, koi baat nahin.
NR: Accha, listen. They’ve approached Ratan to become the chairman of that advisory committee.
SA: Yeah yeah, I found out.
NR: Yeah, no. Yesterday, I spoke to him. He is in Israel right now. He said he’s not. I told him I have to send him a note as to what's been going on for the last five years
SA: hmm
NR: and why, because he’s said he’s going to meet the Prime Minister.
SA: hmm.
NR: Because I don’t .. he’s not going to do it.
SA: hmm
NR: he’s he’s… I said because the only reason they’re asking you to do it is because they want you to ratify all the deals that they’ve done and all the
SA: ( talks over her) That’s right. That’s right. exactly.
NR: of course they want credibility and all that. So he said, I told him I’ll speak to you.
SA: Hmm
NR: So he said can you ask Sunil to give me a.. a 5 , 7 page uh letter…
SA: hmm
NR: .. which spells out what has being going on. So that when I meet Prime Minister.
SA: When is he meeting Prime Minister?
NR: He’ll.. when he comes back. He's meeting him on Saturday. He’ll come back on Friday.
SA: Haan.
NR: And he’ll take time next week.
SA: Theek.
NR: So he says if you’ ask him to send me a note
SA: hmm
NR: Which tells me exactly what's been going on.
SA: hmm
NR: and what is the thing and I’ve spoken to him about you. Tarun Das is speaking about you by the way to Prime Minister as soon as he comes back from his G8.
SA: hmm
NR: Woh maine toh, aaa, sab, aaa de diya usko.. because Tarun himself has said that I wanted Sunil to become the CII DG. So.. uh.. He was he was pretty keen and Baijal ka meeting Friday ko hai D.K. Nair ke saath.
SA: hmm
NR: toh.. the umm.. they’re all.. I think everyone is in agreement now. Jojo,
SA: hmm
NR: from Times of India is going to run a complete 2 page story on how they’ve destroyed Air India.
SA: haan
NR: Toh, uske liye… he knows you quiet well Jojo, he says he’s met you a few times.
SA: off the head dhyaan nahin hai.
NR: Toh, Jojo is telling me. Jojo [Jaideep Bose] is the Editor-in-Chief at Times Group na.
SA: No no, I know about him, but
NR: haan
SA: may be once or twice I’ve met. Mujhe off hand dhyaan nahin hai. haan..
NR: So he’s going to probably send someone across to you, or if you are going to be in Delhi. now, He’s in Bombay though.
S :haan
NR: so who ever is going to write that story, whichever journalist is going to do it. But they’re going to do a massive thing as to how Air India has been raped. They’re there
SA: hmm .So When i write for Mr. Ratan Tata,
NR: hmm
SA: do I also mention that uh.. I mean it is note from him. But do I also mention one third person that it is understood umm, there are 2 major issues now. Out 5-6 major issues there 2 issues a) Air India Express.
NR: hmm
SA: On Air India Express as a Board member I had raised a series of issues. Officially. So can I just write the sentence like, “ one of the board members has brought these things to.. the discussion... Board of what.." I would not like to show that much, this thing.
NR: No I think you should just get it done. I think you should write him a note that you’re writing to, uh, is that he will read and then he will translate in whichever way he wants to translate and send it.
SA: Hmm
NR: You understand na.
SA: Haan haan. Theek hai…Theek hai.
NR: Thats the way it will be.
SA: haan.
NR: yeah.
SA: Bilateral toh I will have to check the recent information.
NR: Bilateral,woh woh woh.. airline deals, the aircraft deals… all that.
SA: Yeah yeah 5-6 things na. One is aircraft deal,
NR: hmm
SA: other is bilateral. Other is Air Indian Express.
NR: hmm
SA: Other is …this sale and lease back of aircraft. On sale and lease back of aircraft again, it all happened after I left.
NR: hmm.
SA: So I would only, I would also know…sketchy details but I’ll kind of, try to take assistance of one or two people… who have retired. I know one who has retired who is in touch with me… he used to be in planning.. Though I’ll not tell him the purpose of course.
NR: hmm
SA: Hmm, Vijay Kumar used to be in planning.
NR: hmm
SA: That too planning and he was dealing with these things and he had been putting up small-small notes. Anyway, I’ll make it. because obviously, he’ll meet him only when Prime Minister returns from Italy.
NR: Na I also want to offline give him the details joh tumne bheji thi na, pura dossier. Woh toh main doongi na usko.
SA: That’s my letter to Cabinet Secretary
NR: What is.. own information na.
SA: huh? no, that i can give you yeah, with you I have no issues. The issue is that it remains with him that he destroys it after reading it.
NR: huh?
SA: My letter to Cabinet Secretary,
NR: hmm
SA: he can read and then destroy it.
NR: Haan, I’ll have to give it to him and he’ll destroy it. Naturally, he’s not going to..
He needs to have a background ke what are the hell are they asking him to do na.
SA: haan, then I’ll send the letter. I have the letter
NR: You tell me when everything is done, I’ll send someone to pick it up.
SA: Haan.
NR: I also need, separately, (SMS alert tone), in your own words.. for Tarun Das.
SA: in?
NR: for Tarun Das.
SA: haan
NR: For Tarun Das, in your own words, what do you think needs to be done, but no why should you tell them what should be done, otherwise they will use what has to be done and give it for your benefit na.
SA: haan.
NR: hmm
SA: That's not that good. I mean that toh… you want me to give that?
NR: Accha dekho Sunil mujhe ek kaam zaroor hai, ke, you have to, in fact Tarun Das has sent me a SMS just now, which I’m just seeing now, which has come on my other phone.
SA: hmm
NR: He wants me to call him urgently. So it must be about this only.
SA: hmm
NR: Let me call him and call you back.
SA: ok.
NR: ok.

Transcribed by CK