Sunil Arora : Hello.
Niira Radia: Sunil Hi.
NR: Sunil sorry , Iâm sorry, Iâm so hung up on my court case na..
SA: Nahin nahin, koi baat nahin.
NR: Accha, listen. Theyâve approached Ratan to become the chairman of that advisory committee.
SA: Yeah yeah, I found out.
NR: Yeah, no. Yesterday, I spoke to him. He is in Israel right now. He said heâs not. I told him I have to send him a note as to what's been going on for the last five years
NR: and why, because heâs said heâs going to meet the Prime Minister.
NR: Because I donât .. heâs not going to do it.
NR: heâs heâsâ¦ I said because the only reason theyâre asking you to do it is because they want you to ratify all the deals that theyâve done and all the
SA: ( talks over her) Thatâs right. Thatâs right. exactly.
NR: of course they want credibility and all that. So he said, I told him Iâll speak to you.
NR: So he said can you ask Sunil to give me a.. a 5 , 7 page uh letterâ¦
NR: .. which spells out what has being going on. So that when I meet Prime Minister.
SA: When is he meeting Prime Minister?
NR: Heâll.. when he comes back. He's meeting him on Saturday. Heâll come back on Friday.
NR: And heâll take time next week.
NR: So he says if youâ ask him to send me a note
NR: Which tells me exactly what's been going on.
NR: and what is the thing and Iâve spoken to him about you. Tarun Das is speaking about you by the way to Prime Minister as soon as he comes back from his G8.
NR: Woh maine toh, aaa, sab, aaa de diya usko.. because Tarun himself has said that I wanted Sunil to become the CII DG. So.. uh.. He was he was pretty keen and Baijal ka meeting Friday ko hai D.K. Nair ke saath.
NR: toh.. the umm.. theyâre all.. I think everyone is in agreement now. Jojo,
NR: from Times of India is going to run a complete 2 page story on how theyâve destroyed Air India.
NR: Toh, uske liyeâ¦ he knows you quiet well Jojo, he says heâs met you a few times.
SA: off the head dhyaan nahin hai.
NR: Toh, Jojo is telling me. Jojo [Jaideep Bose] is the Editor-in-Chief at Times Group na.
SA: No no, I know about him, but
SA: may be once or twice Iâve met. Mujhe off hand dhyaan nahin hai. haan..
NR: So heâs going to probably send someone across to you, or if you are going to be in Delhi. now, Heâs in Bombay though.
NR: so who ever is going to write that story, whichever journalist is going to do it. But theyâre going to do a massive thing as to how Air India has been raped. Theyâre there
SA: hmm .So When i write for Mr. Ratan Tata,
SA: do I also mention that uh.. I mean it is note from him. But do I also mention one third person that it is understood umm, there are 2 major issues now. Out 5-6 major issues there 2 issues a) Air India Express.
SA: On Air India Express as a Board member I had raised a series of issues. Officially. So can I just write the sentence like, â one of the board members has brought these things to.. the discussion... Board of what.." I would not like to show that much, this thing.
NR: No I think you should just get it done. I think you should write him a note that youâre writing to, uh, is that he will read and then he will translate in whichever way he wants to translate and send it.
NR: You understand na.
SA: Haan haan. Theek haiâ¦Theek hai.
NR: Thats the way it will be.
SA: Bilateral toh I will have to check the recent information.
NR: Bilateral,woh woh woh.. airline deals, the aircraft dealsâ¦ all that.
SA: Yeah yeah 5-6 things na. One is aircraft deal,
SA: other is bilateral. Other is Air Indian Express.
SA: Other is â¦this sale and lease back of aircraft. On sale and lease back of aircraft again, it all happened after I left.
SA: So I would only, I would also knowâ¦sketchy details but Iâll kind of, try to take assistance of one or two peopleâ¦ who have retired. I know one who has retired who is in touch with meâ¦ he used to be in planning.. Though Iâll not tell him the purpose of course.
SA: Hmm, Vijay Kumar used to be in planning.
SA: That too planning and he was dealing with these things and he had been putting up small-small notes. Anyway, Iâll make it. because obviously, heâll meet him only when Prime Minister returns from Italy.
NR: Na I also want to offline give him the details joh tumne bheji thi na, pura dossier. Woh toh main doongi na usko.
SA: Thatâs my letter to Cabinet Secretary
NR: What is.. own information na.
SA: huh? no, that i can give you yeah, with you I have no issues. The issue is that it remains with him that he destroys it after reading it.
SA: My letter to Cabinet Secretary,
SA: he can read and then destroy it.
NR: Haan, Iâll have to give it to him and heâll destroy it. Naturally, heâs not going to..
He needs to have a background ke what are the hell are they asking him to do na.
SA: haan, then Iâll send the letter. I have the letter
NR: You tell me when everything is done, Iâll send someone to pick it up.
NR: I also need, separately, (SMS alert tone), in your own words.. for Tarun Das.
NR: for Tarun Das.
NR: For Tarun Das, in your own words, what do you think needs to be done, but no why should you tell them what should be done, otherwise they will use what has to be done and give it for your benefit na.
SA: That's not that good. I mean that tohâ¦ you want me to give that?
NR: Accha dekho Sunil mujhe ek kaam zaroor hai, ke, you have to, in fact Tarun Das has sent me a SMS just now, which Iâm just seeing now, which has come on my other phone.
NR: He wants me to call him urgently. So it must be about this only.
NR: Let me call him and call you back.
Transcribed by CK