Barkha Dutt: Ha, not true!
Niira Radia: I don’t know where she’s (Navika Kumar from Timesnow) getting this from?
Barkha Dutt: No, but the thing is it fits with the Congress formula. So it might be a…
Niira Radia: Congress is already…
Barkha Dutt: No, you see Congress’s only condition is … DMK should not get surface transport, beyond individuals. Right?
Niira Radia: Correct, correct, and they are not individuals. Let me tell you one thing’s for sure. 3 plus 4 was yesterday; because of Maran, they wanted to make it 4 plus 3.
Barkha Dutt: Okay!
Niira Radia: So, now it is back to… 3 plus 4 was already what was on the table!
Barkha Dutt: No, so why does this formula not sound right then?
Niira Radia: Because of Azhagiri naa! He’s not got cabinet.
Barkha Dutt: Oh, Azhagiri got what, according to these things?
Niira Radia: You see, according to her, he’s got Health, but he can’t be cabinet. Either Maran is not cabinet, either Raja is not cabinet or Baalu’s not.
Barkha Dutt: Azhagiri’s got Health and that’s a big compromise by Congress because they said we won’t give them Health. So that’s their face saver. No, but Azhagiri, Health can be cabinet?
Niira Radia: Agreed, but then Raja is MoS.
Barkha Dutt: Raja is MoS!
Niira Radia: Then is Baalu MoS? Nahin ho sakta.
Barkha Dutt: Nahin, nahin, nahin, if Baalu gets Heavy Industries and … Baalu gets chemicals and fertilizer; Azhagiri gets this thing – Health.
Niira Radia: Maran gets Telecom and IT.
Barkha Dutt: Maran gets Telecom and IT. Raja gets demoted.
Niira Radia: Who gets…?
Barkha Dutt: Raja? Nahin hoga! [Won't happen] haha
Niira Radia: I am telling you nahin hai (laughing). Trust me, nahin hai. Trust me, nahi hai [It's not]
Barkha Dutt: Achcha, theek hai.
Niira Radia: I’ll tell you what is… paanch minute pehle… main tumko ek baat batati hu. Kya hogaya hai. Ek baat hogayii. Ye teeno Baalu, Raja aur Maran ko hatake, teen naye faces le a ayenge [Five minutes back... let me tell you what has happened. One thing has happened. They will remove Baalu, Raja and Maran and get three new faces]
Barkha Dutt: So this is not true basically, na?
Niira Radia: I don’t know where they are getting it from? I’ve been telling Navika Kumar that you've gone hammer and tong. And Maran doesn’t even want IT by the way. Maran wants coal and mine.
Barkha Dutt: I heard that Maran coal and mine…
[Primary transcription by "Broadway" -- checked by OL]