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Godhra: Let's Keep Politics Out Of It
Free Speech Host 18-JAN-05
No matter when Justice U C Banerjee committee, appointed by Railway Minister Lalu Prasad,came out with its report, it would have been controversial and its timing and veracity questioned. But the timing of the submission of an interim report just before the elections in Bihar has, not surprisingly, led to a political tsunami.
"With the elimination of the 'petrol theory', 'miscreant activity theory' as well as the ruling out of any possibility of 'electrical fire', the fire in S-6 coach of Sabarmati Express can at this stage be ascribed as an 'accidental fire'," this interim report asserts.
But the situation is confounded by the conflicting statements by senior official of the Gujarat Directorate of Forensic Sciences (DFS) in Ahmedabad who have cast immediate doubt on the findings of the report. The Gandhinagar based SIT has also stuck on to its conspiracy theory.
It is not as if this interim report's findings are anything new. Lalu Yadav has been dropping ominous hints about just what has been released today. Outlook had carried an interview with him way back in July 2004: The Controversial Railway Report Will Be Made Public.
It is too early to go into the merits or otherwise of the contents of this report per se, but what is unquestionable is that the timing of this interim report's release has actually added to the the Rashoman-like mystery of the narrative and actually done harm to its cause, should its findings actually be accurate.
The trouble with petty politicisation of serious national issues that led to a carnage whose wounds would take generations to heal is that even if the findngs of the Justice UC Banerjee committee point to what actually happened, the extremely polarised public-opinion and perception is going to take it all with sackfuls of salt. Lalu Yadav and his political shenanigans are too well known to be recounted, but what would serve us well would be to look at the two separate issues concerned here: the contents of the report and its timing. Just because the timing can be questioned, it need not be reason enough to dismiss the report's findings. That should be a separate, independent exercise in itself. What do you think?
What If Godhra Hadn't Happened?
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Bhaswati 12/26/2005 11:44:35 AM (#71 of 80)
GF>>"I do not know how the fire started on the train. Let us wait for the final report of the commission".
Just wondering, did you ever say: Lets wait for the final report, before going mad for Modi's blood? Ha..ha..Its always one way street Mr. Ghulam:)-
At least there are 100s Police cases filed against those local Muslims, still being heard in the Court. How many cases are filed against Modi? Not even one. But the polemic still continues, isn't it?
Mr friend: it has lost all rationality!
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Bhaswati 12/27/2005 1:16:54 AM (#72 of 80)
GF>>It seems Hindus are convinced that the fire on the train was set by the local Muslim crowd. Muslims seem to be equally convinced that the fire was accidental and unrelated to the altercation that occurred between the Muslims and the karsevaks.
An all encompassing Commission, under a reputed Ex: Supreme Court Judge was already looking into it. Appointing Banerjee committee Lalu damaged the truth. Its a dangerous precedence and I am sure will be used by sanghis in future. More important is: why Lalu is subverting the truth?
Few 100 Local Muslims, even if did set the train or fire, and/or pelted stone to stop people coming out from the compartment, Stopped Fire brigade from their job etc etc -- prove all Indian Muslims responsible for Godhra? No. It was a local incident, ....Full Message
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Ghulam 12/27/2005 3:12:49 AM (#73 of 80)
>> "Few 100 Local Muslims, even if did set the train on fire"
I am not saying it did not happen. I am saying it may or may not have happened. And it is not what is dividing the country today. What is dividing the country is the mind set which marshalls all the negative facts and views of a community, neglects all its achievements and its contributions, keeps throwing mud in people's faces, and then wonders why they do not respond, or why they do not change. I never see this kind of people relent even for a while and offer a hand of friendship, and even consider the possibility that maybe there is some fault on both sides. While this dissimulation is going on, the VHP is relentlessly moving forward with its program of alienating and impoverishing Muslims in the countryside in ....Full Message
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Bhaswati 12/27/2005 11:38:14 AM (#74 of 80)
GF>>I am not saying it did not happen. I am saying it may or may not have happened.
Agreed, a Judicial commission is looking into Godhra/Post Godhra. But how one explains the cynical and overjelous reaction from select english media, muslims and so-called secular politicians? As I have explained already, banerjee comission will be creating more problem for Pseduos than solving it. Some of them wrote in mainstream media: it was organied by VHP! Was iy reporting or rumour mongering without any remotely tangible proof.
Today, Godhra is no one off. Major temples have been attacked, major cities have been attacked after that. Scores of people died. Everyday some islamic terrorist is caught with some plan. Even in today's newspapers, few are caught who wanted to bomb IT parks in ....Full Message
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Bhaswati 12/27/2005 11:39:14 AM (#75 of 80)
You know the method now being applied by those caught in Godhra? Say, they gave a version to the magistrate a year back. Now they are hearing others in the Court, and accordingly changing their statement! A technicality may save one terrorist (or even all) from Godhra. They may drag the justice, judicial process (the way Salem is doing now). But people are smart enough to understand it.
The big picture is what matters. That a Lalu sets up a extra commission before vote. Legal expenses for those caught from Godhra are now being sent by Muslims from outside India. Those caught are changing their version. Teesta is being saluted in the Supreme COurt by one of India's top lawyer as "Teesta Javed Khan" ! That Teesta is making money from the whole thing. Media is still playing its ....Full Message
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Ghulam 12/27/2005 12:46:14 PM (#76 of 80)
It seems Hindus are convinced that the fire on the train was set by the local Muslim crowd. Muslims seem to be equally convinced that the fire was accidental and unrelated to the altercation that occurred between the Muslims and the karsevaks. I ask both to hold their horses, but to no avail. In any case, it would be best if we can move on to other topics. Let us not forget that we are all Indians.
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Bhaswati 12/27/2005 12:49:27 PM (#77 of 80)
So, what will be end result? Secularism winning by inducting Sankar Singh Vaghela, a Sanghi into Congress? A Shiv Sena man, close confidant of Thakrey, Narayan Rane into Congress? Pawar's NCP wooing Raj Thakrey, another Shiv Sena leader to create a new platform and align with NCP so Pawar becomes more powerful! Inducting TRS, a body closely aligned with RSS into Central Ministry and win State election? Or the EX Congress CM(from Madhya Pradesh)'s Soft Hindutva? Lalu, Sonia, Paswan's increasing use of Hindu eligious Symbol in their body? Sonia's start of Cong Campaign at last Guj State Election from a Temple?.......Using even ISI funded elements, Naxalites for vote by Cong/Lalu and others? Use Mafia, criminals, ISI funded terrorists to win Muslim votes in large parts of UP, Bihar and ....Full Message
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Ghulam 1/7/2006 8:46:25 PM (#78 of 80)
>> "Well Mr Faruki do you seriously think that godhra was not done by fanatic muslims."
Never said that.
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dvsecular 5/5/2006 5:06:32 PM (#79 of 80)
This report is completly inline with the secular conduct and sprit "Kill a hindu" go to jannet" hindus must not have reacted on it in such a way. instead they should have been happy that some of them have served as a means for beliver to go to jannet.
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dvsecular 5/5/2006 5:14:22 PM (#80 of 80)
For information: In the period of lalu prasad, railway tribunaml composed of technical committee and legal expert conseded that the train was burnt by a mob and subsequenty sattled the clame for many victims of godhara. look for this report Times Of India of the same day on which this report has came. so this report is in support of the cause of islam.
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