8/D, D. L. Narayan,
I just saw on ON TV THAT Mr VICHARE MP OF SS HAS APOLOGIZED .
The late president of Tunisia,Hassan Bourgiba had banned Ramzan fasting saying that it leads to inefficiency during working hours.He had even banned Haj pilgrimage.Here in India such a small incident of a Shiv Sena MP forcing a piece of chapati to a Muslim is a national news through the day.Do the Muslims respect Hindu sentiments by stopping cow slaughter at least on important Hindu festival days?They are not even allowing loudspeakers on Hindu temples whiles oHindus have to suffer Muslim azaan calls five times a day throughout the year.The English media is behaving as if Sonia and not the pro-Hindu,BJP is ruling the country. This chapati feeding issue is a Congress ploy to create disturbances.One can see so many Muslims coming out of Hindu restaurants during fasting hours.That being the case this Maharastra Sadan incident is a non-issue.
Markandey Katju is a waste of space and a loudmouth.
/// What else can we expect from these thugs? ///
you are right as a muslim rapes a 6 year girl (Banglore) in the month of Razan and our pious month of Sawan. This is the symbol of Indian secularists who think forcibly make a muslim eat ROTI is more heinous act than raping a girl or leave non muslim childrens to die of hunger (Kerala) due to Ramzan?
I just saw on some TV THAT Mr VICHARE MP OF SS HAS SOUGHT APOLOGY .
First time as far as SS is concerned .
Boss Udhav has said SS is Hindu Party but SS respects all the Religions .
THESE ARE TWO POSITIVE GAINS FROM THE UNFORTUNATE INCIDENT .
2. Congress ,JDu and some Muslim Parties have a field day in Lambasting BJP and SS.
They can enjoy and exploit this unfortunate incident to the hilt for Political purposes. AIM IS MUSLIM VOTES .
Well they must understand that only Muslim Votes can't take out both the parties from the Dump .
BUT CONGRESS SHOULD BE HAPPY AND TRY TO KEEP DEBATE ON THIS INCIDENT BECAUSE IT HAS TAKEN AWAY THE HEAT ON CONGRESS FROM THE KATJU EXPOSE FOR THE TIME BEING.
IT IS MISTAKE OF SS TO GIVE HANDLE TO CONGRESS .
Note what is posted below by one contributor:
"The latest news on the front comes from Kerala, where, citing Ramzan fast as reasons, Government schools in the Malabar region have stopped serving food to children. Not only this, school timings have been altered as well. All this, despite the fact that Government schools impart education to students belonging to all religions, not just Islam.
According to a report in Malayalam daily Janmabhumi, the policy has been sanctioned by the Education Department and a majority of Government schools in districts such as Palakkad, Malappuram, Kozhikode, Kannur, Kasargod have complied with it, forcing students of all religions to go hungry despite Ramzan being a Muslim month of fasting and prayer.
Some Parent Teacher Associations have challenged this decision by sending a written complaint to the Minister’s Secretariat, but to no avail."
You are sitting on a volcano of Hindu anger. One day it will explode. Don't push your luck.
" He will have to set a pragmatic course, improve the lives of large sections of Indians, avoid divisive and authoritarian politics, strengthen the Indian state without turning government into a tool of oppression and modernise a largely feudal society. No easy task."
Quite easy if you know arithmetic. With FISCAL DEFICITS renamed BHAGYALAKSHMI, the balance is ( BHAGYALAKSHMI - TRADE DEFICIT) = NET PRIVATE SAVINGS, all you have to do is to create and spend on commons more BHAGYALAKSHMI , an infinite resource of created money!
When is this stupid Ramzan ending ?
Obviously, managing India’s macroeconomy is crucial. And easy.
The economic balance is (FISCAL DEFICIT- TRADE DEFICIT) = NET PRIVATE SAVINGS. The economy grows exactly as much as the growth of the quantity on the left hand side. Therefore maximize the difference between the created money FISCAL DEFICIT and TRADE DEFICIT to, say, 30% GDP to grow the economy by 30% GDP. Think big!
In 10 years GDP will grow by a factor = 1.3^10 = 13.8 and poverty will be gone. Note that taxes DO NOT PLAY A ROLE in the balance. Also note if TRADE DEFICIT exceeds FISCAL DEFICIT, the economy will DIE.
"I thought the election of Modi as PM showed the irreversible decline in our moral standards. No??"
If it were not for the likes of intellectually dishonest asswipes like Uttam Sengupta, who would safeguard our moral standards? hain? I ask you.
Not to mention there is at least half a dozen party functionaries in the BJP at top posts right now, but apparently that is not good enough. They need a muslim in place of modi...why not wish that of the congress party, eh? given how secular it is and all.
"Are we ever going to see a Muslim becoming the BJP president ?"
It will happen the same time practising hindus are allowed in top posts in the Congress party. Truly astounding how biased a*holes in India reduce everything to having a muslim in the works. Stupid self-defeating losers. You build a rocket to the moon, and they will ask "how many muslims were involved in the rocket building?"
Once again Parliament, which has so much important life-and-death work to handle, is turned into a monkey house by a ruckus over some petty Muslim grievance. These wretched types exist only to nurse grievances, it seems.
Hundreds of thousands of Hindus are chased out of Kashmir but THAT does not worry them for one second. Some petty squabble over a chapati is made to seem a vast catastrophe.
They should be disciplined and taught that India is not willing to waste any more time on them.
The USA never lies. The CIA never causes mischief. It is always the enemy. How often has this been wrong?
Support Israel. The Koran does.
As usual, a vast hullaballoo about a completely petty incident.
Muslims waste Indian time endlessly with their rubbish. People are sick of this. A trivial squabble is made into a huge scandal.
Look, Muslims need to be told bluntly: If you want to live here peacefully, do so. If you create a fuss you will be the biggest sufferer.
This nonsense from these mad people must stop.
Aholes, voters have just shown you your place. Now shut up.
Pretty useless drivel.
Modi will send his hologram.
Katju may have come out too late,but the Questions he has asked must be enquired.
These will be part of Official documents in the Court,if the IB claim was in fact correct then Mr Lahoti must explain.
The guy is real BootLicker.
Let every issue of POLITICAL Arrogance and Bias be treated the way this incident has been dealt.
We must al understand though we trust in democracy we are voting for Goons like the 11 we saw on TV to handle our future.
Some of the views expressed on this site showed repulsion to such behaviour.
Mani Shanker Aiyer had a long article in the Express yesterday moaning about how the government is not supporting the Palestinians. The comments on this article are worth reading - almost all of them point out that the Arabs have never supported India, and tell Aiyer to go jump in a lake. It looks like Indians have finally had enough of this Gandhi-Nehru socialist bull-crap that we have been fed for 60 years.
Even if for argument's sake we accept the Shiv Sena's explanation that there was no religous angle, the MPs have still broken the law. As DLN has said, charge the MP under section 352 and send the MP to jail. Let the ethics committee of parliament decide whether he (and Tapas Pal) are fit to sit in parliament.
"You would not rest until the the very worst possible meaning from a verse is derived!" Anwaar
There is nothing ambiguous about Koran 9:29 and I merely pointed out that the Pakistani ambassador you quoted is being disingenuous when he claims that conversion or death is not the only alternative given to non-Muslims but that there are other (unspecified) ways of living peacefully with Muslims. That unspecified way is dhimmitude, an obscene institution like untouchability that has no place in the 21st century.
It appears that the Pakistani ambassador supports dhimmitude - in fact, Hindus are officially classifed as dhimmis ("zimmis') in Pakistan today. This obscenity need to be exposed and fought by non-Muslims. If Muslims like you don't like that, it says something about you and your community.
The Supreme Court bench which rejected Mr. Subrata Roy’s latest plea on Tuesday, 22nd July, 2014 to release him so that his group may be able to raise funds required for compliance of Court’s verdict given on 26th March, 2014 is a newly constituted three judge bench. The Sahara group has not till now come forward with any concrete plan to raise required funds. Perhaps, the legal experts of the Sahara group were thinking that the new bench would give relief to Mr. Subrata Roy.
The only solution, it would now be clear to Mr. Roy and his team of eminent lawyers, is to deposit the required amount with the Securities & Exchange Board of India (SEBI). It will be worth watching how and whether the Sahara group raises necessary funds to pay to SEBI, in coming weeks. Those who are observing the Sahara case from a distance, however, think that Mr. Roy and his Sahara group would continue to make repeated pleas, without actually depositing the required amount with SEBI, for well known reasons.
Having fond memories of Kalmadi and Sheila Dikshit. They really put CWG on an international stage. WOn laurels for India.
Where were all these legal luminaries and others on this forum who defended Katju's right to interfere in the political arena by writing an article in The Hindu calling on Indians not to vote for NaMo.?
I said at the time that it was improper for a person holding a quasi-judicial appointment paid from the Consolidated Fund to make such statements which he was welcome to make a s a privatye system. Katju was wrong then and he is wring now. Let him resign as PCI Chairman and then say or write whatever he likes.
While these pathetic Shiv Sena MPs deserve nothing but condemnation, we should also not lose sight of the attempt by the seculars to use this idiotic incident to fan communalism in pursuit of Muslim votes. Just look at the photograph that the sick secular Outlook have used in this article.
It appears as though there was no communal intent.
But these MPs are pathetic uncivilised people. They need to be at least severely reprimanded for their third rate behaviour.
Correction to my last post. Book has been written and is scheduled to be released on Aug 7th. But Natwar Singh has agreed(as of now) not to release the book.
Without knowing the kinds of deals and counter-deals between Sonia and Natwar, it is impossible to predict the next developments.
But along with Tharoor's story, this is quite interesting.
Disgusting behavior. But I dont think there was any communal angle to it.
It was sheer arrogance. The bastards would have done the same thing to a hindu as well. They must be punished.
So Natwar Singh threatens to write a tell-all book. Sonia and Priyanka visit him at his house and a few hours later, the man decides not to write the book.
Wonder what bribes/threats Sonia and Priyanka used to silence Natwar Singh!!
The real news about Tharoor is the ABP expose-that he and Mehr were planning to marry after Shashi had divorced Sunanda.
Tharoor, so far has not denied the story-which makes it quite juciy.
Who cares about his opinion on Congress?
>>Here is a video showing SS MP shoving roti in his mouth.
Not disputing that there was bullying and rowdy behavour by the MPs but our media putting a communal colour to it is despicable!
Ideally Manmohan has to explain himself. But then the man spent 10 years as PM without explaining himself on anything. Why should he start a new habit now?
And BTW, as for me stating that the root word of varna comes from a word meaning choice, it was explained that way by Cho Ramaswamy. He had written a series in Thuglak on this very topic and had explained the meaning that way-quoting others experts.
“Shourie camped in Delhi for several days and even gave a few interviews even though he had shifted to the township of Lavasa, near Pune in Maha¬rashtra, several years ago.”
Saba is such a mean B****. Probably still smarting with the whacking she got from Shourie from the “Rational Vs. National” horseshit that she dished out years ago, not realizing that she can accuse Shourie of anything but should never question him on his integrity.
When she says he ‘parked himself in delhi’ she does not realize that Shourie’s wife is going through a serious health problem and he is in Delhi to be closer to better medical facilities. His only son is a paraplegic, who needs constant medical attention too. If Saba, the b**** couldn’t be more sensitive, at least she could be a little more honest and done a better research before casting aspersions on a man of such impeccable integrity. This is the 2nd time that because of her Outlook has to eat crow!!
She should be ashamed!!
Declaration from Outlook:
"In Saba Naqvi’s article Not as R-positive, the concluding paragraphs contai¬ned a reference to former Union disinvestment minister Arun Shourie camping himself in New Delhi for several days and giving interviews in the days leading up to the swearing-in and formation of the Narendra Modi government, although he had shif¬ted to the township of Lavasa several years ago. We have since been suitably informed that Mr Shourie had in fact been staying in his Delhi residence since Nov¬ember 2013 following an emergency medical complication inv¬olving an esteemed member of his family. We regret this unfortunate inference and stand corrected."
The idiot Anwaar has no clue about hinduism but reads a few meanings from some dictionary and poses as an expert.
As for varna, the theory is this according to Vedanta and Sankhya. Everything in the world is a mixture of three gunas-sattva, rajas and tamas. At the beginning of projection, all three are in perfect equilibrium. Then the balance is disturbed and creation(actually projection) starts. Everything is a mixture of the three gunas in varying proportions.
The three gunas are represented by colors-white, red and black.
Coming to human beings, a man's disposition is determined by the presence of these gunas.
A large sattva+ little rajas+little tamas makes a Brahmin.
Large rajas+ sattva+ tamas makes a Kshatriya
Rajas+tamas+little sattva makes a Vashya
A large tamas+ little rajas+ practically no sattva makes a sudra
As can be seen, this has nothing to do with one's birth. It is a description of one's mental makeup. That is why varna becomes a choice--because one has to choose a profession best fitted for one's mental disposition. The concept of Svadharma comes here. Choosing the profession that best expresses his mental disposition and that ENABLES HIM TO FURTHER IN THE PATH OF SPIRITUAL PROGRESS IS one's svadharma.
Associating colors with varna makes sense only in this context. It has nothing to do with external appearance. In sanskrit, one word has multiple meanings depending on the context. Applying meaning of one context to another context is foolishness.
Again I repeat, varna is choice-whereas jati(caste) is by birth.
Not all games can be promoted on international stage. Certain popular sports like football, cricket, basketball have an international appeal not because of its origin in some country but because of the game itself, factors like game rules, game interests, player profiles, beauty of game etc. Football did not originate in Germany, argentina, Italy but it remains the famous sport in these countries likewise cricket did not originate in Australia, India, Sri Lanka, South Africa but it remains a famous sport there. Chess is definitely popular in India atleast in urban cities, people do know who vishwanathan anand is. Indian Chess players are known worldwide It is generally assumed Chess originated in India and the saying right away thatchess originated in India would be incorrect. Kabaddi being not popular when compared to cricket and football is bacause of the game kabaddi itself, the game failed to evolve and gain popularity and not because of some some anti national sentiment.
She is a forward caste girl.
BC/SC/ST communities can ignore this case.
Why only tears for the Palestenian children??? What about children who could have died on the Israeli side, if Israel didn't continue with their aggression. Closer homes what about all those children who die every time a bomb goes of in India???
Hamas is using children and civilians of all ages as human shields. Why no condemnation of that?
Look around you from India to Israel to the Africas who are the people tagetting innocent civilians? Is it that Muslims are the only community that has an axe to grind?
"Hindutvavadi/Right wing" - calling names would not alter the fact.
Tell YADAVS to take their Caste share of land from India and go build their own nation as per "Communal Award". They're less than 1% in India.
If you meet anybody from India ask him "What Is Your Caste?" If he answers it, then you're doomed. Because he has already injected Cancer into your Country. Caste is like Cancer. It cannot be Cured. It has to be Cut-Off.
Tell Katju/BRAHMINS to take their Caste share of land from India and go build their own nation as per "Communal Award". They're less than 1% in India.
In democracy it's your vote that counts; In "feudalism" it's your count that votes.