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D-60/1
Nov 01, 2014
02:39 PM

Politics or not, BJP cannot ignore its money bags.

misogynist
chennai, India
D-59/2
Nov 01, 2014
02:39 PM

If Modi were to be a Catholic and he had said that Jesus was born to a Virgin,none would have ridiculed him.Or,instead of Pushpak Viman, if he had quoted Prophet Mohammed flying to the heaven on his white horse it would have been taken with reverence.But quoting from from Hindu mythology about plastic surgery was unpardonable.Modi is rendering himself to ridicule,he should be more circumspect.

S.S.Nagaraj
Bangalore, India
D-58/1
Nov 01, 2014
02:36 PM

Let us assume this Biju Ramesh is lying. At the very least, shouldn't the govt or Mr Mani file a suit for criminal defamation. 

On the other hand, if Mr Ramesh has evidence to support his claims,why hasn't he filed a complaint with the police?

Bonita, Chennai
D-57/1
Nov 01, 2014
02:35 PM

Is this a promotion piece for the ( female ) actress?

misogynist
chennai, India
D-56/4
Nov 01, 2014
02:29 PM

1/D-43: Bonita>> "This is OK if Outlook were to openly declare that it is anti BJP and anti-Hindu."

Which magazine or newspaper, or a TV channel, openly proclaims that it is anti-Hindu or anti-Muslim? Even the mouthpieces of the Jan Sangh and the Shiv Sena don't do so.

Ramesh Ramachandra
Bangalore, India
D-55/3
Nov 01, 2014
02:29 PM

It is unfortunate that politicians like Kulkarni are still mistaken for 'journalists' by the general public. 

People who have extremely bigotted views, must declare their biases, and enter politics without delay.

It would be simpler, if the Arun Shouries and MJ Akbars of the world not call themselves journalists. 

misogynist
chennai, India
D-54/1
Nov 01, 2014
02:24 PM

If the prime minister invites me for a one-to-one meeting, then one can say he has kept his word (just joking!).

The disclaimer ( just joking! ) is very important, since ill tempered Sanghis can quickly tear you down to pieces for even insinuations! 

Remember, the bad image for drinking ( India is one of the least drinking per capita nation in the world ), was created by the same media. Now, VM is paying the price for it, through the Sanghis using it to brand VM a drunkard. The chicken has come home to roost.

misogynist
chennai, India
D-53/1
Nov 01, 2014
02:16 PM

The biggest wealth by far, of India lying abroad for decades, is brain power - IT professionals, doctors, engineers etc.

Does Modi have any plans of bringing them back?

misogynist
chennai, India
D-52/1
Nov 01, 2014
02:15 PM

If Modi is talking gibberish, it is religion, that taught him these beliefs, and not the believer, Modi, who is to blame. 

ALL religions preach gibberish. Like Modi, they depend on tamasha and divisions, to create a crowd of interested followers. Dint Christ walk after 3 days? Dint Muhammed hear gods voice? 

But how many people actually dont believe in this gibberish, and yet profess to the faith? Are nt they all hypocrites, then? But will the media dare to call a spade a spade?

misogynist
chennai, India
D-51/1
Nov 01, 2014
02:05 PM

Tax Havens like Swiss are actually havens for American and European businesses, and is not actually meant for Indian nationals.

It does not make sense for someone to store 100s of crores in some Swiss Bank earning a paltry 2% as interest. This kind of black money will naturally enjoy political patronage. It would be invested in India itself - medical colleges, engineering colleges, real estate, TV channels etc., like big black money in India does routinely - for much better returns. 

misogynist
chennai, India
D-50/2
Nov 01, 2014
01:56 PM

The BJP created the myth about Sonia Gandhi ( like they did to Rajiv ), being extremely wealthy, thus adding to the anger of the people, and winning elections. 

Incidentally, Sonias not suing Forbes for defamation for claiming she is one of the richest politicians, is intriguing, but intriguing silences are not atypical either, for the Congress leaders.

BJP has to now prove that the Gandhi family have this wealth ( even a trace would be acceptable to the people ), or have to apologise about their estimates.

misogynist
chennai, India
D-49/46
Nov 01, 2014
01:44 PM

Our sickos can bring up the Gujarat riots day in and day out, even in an art or literature seminar. But on October 31st, the day Indira Gandhi was shot dead by her Sikh bodyguards resulting in an orgy of violence against innocent Sikhs across the country, the PM talking about it is "raking up".

Ganwaar, Ganwaarpur
D-48/2
Nov 01, 2014
01:41 PM


> " I admired Outlook for its courage in doing an investigative cover on the chilling accounts of Muslim rape survivors in the communal riots that rocked Muzaffarnagar in UP last year. The question by one of them—“Why were we raped if a boy eve-teased a girl?—must make Hindus introspect about the evil that has infected their community, in the same way that Muslims must introspect on the evil of extremism that has infected theirs."

Fair enough!

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-47/59
Nov 01, 2014
01:32 PM


DLN,

>> "That wiki stub was probably written by a wishy washy apologist like Anwaar to obfuscate the issue."

It is a well-researched article. True to pattern, when you lose an argument, attack Wiki. Or attack religion!

>> "the Seljuqs captured Jerusalem, destroyed churches and slaughtered 3000 Christian pilgrims."

The question was never about the Crusade's goal of recapturing Jerusalem for the Christians. But that does not nullify the arguments that  see the Crusades as part of long-running conflict at the frontiers of Europe or as as confident, aggressive, papal-led expansion attempts by Western Christendom.

>> "The crusaders, being barbarians, were incapable of appreciating the only true religion."

The writings of European historians on the Crusades are suffused by remorse and guilt for the ferocity of violence of the Crusaders which fat outstripped the violence of the Seljugs.. But for a despicable anti-Muslim hate pracharak like yourself there is always only one party to blame, the Muslims!

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-46/45
Nov 01, 2014
01:10 PM


DLN,

>> "No person is complete, Mahatmas included."

You will continue your mendacity and dishonesty till doomsday to support an insupportable statement made by your flawed hero Modi! The question is whether Gandhiji's own words that you had quoted supported Modi's ignoble contention. They obviously do not.

Anwaar, Dallas
D-45/44
Nov 01, 2014
01:05 PM


DLN,

>> "Most of Modi's supporters are Hindus who do not approve of desecration of shrines and places of worship."

In a 2005 book former Intelligence Bureau (IB) Joint Director Maloy Krishna Dhar claimed that Babri mosque demolition was planned 10 months in advance by top leaders of the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh ("RSS"), BJP and VHP.  Dhar claimed that he was directed to arrange the coverage of a key meeting of the BJP/Sangh Parivar and that the meeting "proved beyond doubt that they (RSS, BJP, VHP) had drawn up the blueprint of the Hindutva assault in the coming months and choreographed the ‘pralaya nritya’ (dance of destruction) at Ayodhya in December 1992. The RSS, BJP, VHP and the Bajrang Dal leaders present in the meeting amply agreed to work in a well-orchestrated manner."

Anwaar, Dallas
D-44/43
Nov 01, 2014
01:00 PM

>> "Four facts about Sardar Patel that Modi would find disappointing..."

Shows that no man is perfect. Even Iron man had some flaws.

Whats InAName
San Francisco, United States
D-43/1
Nov 01, 2014
01:00 PM

A long time ago in one of the anniversary editions, I wrote something like

"To be called a stooge of the other by both sides of the political divide, is the best compliment that Outlook can get."

Unfortunately, this statement no longer holds true. Outlook adopts a consistent anti-BJP and Hindu line today. This is OK if Outlook were to openly declare that it is anti BJP and anti-Hindu. To pretend it is unbiassed is dishonest.

Bonita
Chennai, India
D-42/42
Nov 01, 2014
12:57 PM

>>Not accurate. The Somanath temple was last destroyed by Aurangzeb but he did not build a mosque on the ruins.

A mosque was very much there. This is what the Wiki article says:

"The ruins were pulled down in October 1950 and the mosque present at that site was shifted few kilometres away."

RSM, Delhi
D-41/41
Nov 01, 2014
12:48 PM

>>My point was simple.

My response was to the scrol article. The heading talks about Patel not wanting to demolish the mosque but the para talks about 'forcibly' demolishing places of worship. That's like a motherhood statement - nobody wants to do anything forcibly! Babri got demolished because there were fraudulent and dishonest historians, some real arrogant Muslims, shameless intellectuals and a despicable media who essentially took a position that no matter what evidence the Hindu side brings, they would never allow a temple.

RSM, Delhi
D-40/40
Nov 01, 2014
12:48 PM

" It is a manifestation of your usual dishonesty, mendacity and gullibility. It seems you will just lap up any nonsense that Modi says!"

You have perfectly described yourself (mendacity, dishonesty, gullibility.) Did you look into a mirror while composing these lines?

No person is complete, Mahatmas included. Patel complemented Gandhiji in a way nobody else could, including your blue eyed boy, J L Nehru. Ramakrishna Paramahamsa was an enlightened, highly evolved soul but even he needed a Vivekananda.

Someone who does not know anything about Indian spiritual traditions and the guru-shishya parampara should be the last one to comment on it. All he can think of the CEOs of the western world.

Anwaar, we know that you lack an appreciation of the Indian way of life and its traditions. Why do you insist on inviting ridicule by highlighting your ignorance?

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-39/1
Nov 01, 2014
12:45 PM

What did the SC achieve by its grandstanding? After making a big noise about being given the names in the Govt's possession, it passed them on to the SIT which was already given the names on 27 Jun. Would the Hon'ble Chief Justice explain why it has not made the names public.

Incidentally, the Swiss Govt has already sent a cautionary notice to the gvt about disclosing the names except in a criminal prosecution.

Bonita
Chennai, India
D-38/39
Nov 01, 2014
12:35 PM

" (The) temple at Somnath...... was built after demolishing the Mosque in its place."

Not accurate. The Somanath temple was last destroyed by Aurangzeb but he did not build a mosque on the ruins.

When Ahilyabai Holkar rebuilt the temple, she built on an adjacent spot because she was advised that the original site was not auspicious.

When Patel visited Junagadh for its integration into India, he saw the ruins and then decided to rebuild the temple. There was no mosque on the ruins so the question of demolishing a mosque does not arise. Had a mosque been built, it would still have been standing like the Gyanvapi in Kashi.

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-37/38
Nov 01, 2014
12:32 PM


DLN,

>> "This is what Gandhiji wrote in his autobiography"

Gandhiji pays the same tribute to an efficient aide that a host of other leaders and CEO's have paid to their top aides. For you to derive the meaning  from it that "Gandhiji appears incomplete without Sardar Patel," is a manifestation of your usual dishonesty, mendacity and gullibility. It seems you will just lap up any nonsense that Modi says!

Anwaar, Dallas
D-36/37
Nov 01, 2014
12:25 PM

" Unfortunately the para has very little link to the heading."

My point was simple. Patel did not want the Babri masjid to be demolished but that does not mean that Modi would be "disappointed" with Patel for that reason.

Most of Modi's supporters are Hindus who do not approve of desecration of shrines and places of worship. 

Except for the assertion that "Nehru did not steal Patel's crown", which I disagree with, I am NOT DISAPPOINTED at the remaining points, viz., Patel did not like RSS, Patel agreed for the partition of India and Patel was against the demolition of the Babri edifice.

As for Patel's leading role in the building of the Somanath temple, it is okay because a Hindu can be devout AND secular. Nehru disapproved of it but Patel went ahead after getting Gandhiji's approval.

At the time of the inauguration of the temple, Nehru did not want the President, Babu Rajendra Prasad, to attend. Dr Prasad ignored Nehru's gratuitous advice, went for the function and even performed the prana pratishtana (consecration) of the idol.

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-35/48
Nov 01, 2014
11:49 AM

Sandiliya,

Thanks vm.

Mohan, Adpur
D-34/36
Nov 01, 2014
11:14 AM

>>4) Patel did not want the Babri Masjid demolished

Unfortunately the para has very little link to the heading.

Patel was the reason that Hindus have a temple at Somnath and it was built after demolishing the Mosque in its place.
 

RSM, Delhi
D-33/7
Nov 01, 2014
10:28 AM

SS should not stake claim in being a part of a government leave alone even contesting in an election at all, they have lost all moral grounds, b'coz of their acts of vandalism and goodaism. 

jayant , Pune
D-32/35
Nov 01, 2014
10:03 AM

‘Kerala Finance Minister asked for Rs 5 cr, we paid him Rs 1 cr’ - 

The Congress-led Kerala government Friday received two severe blows within hours in its drive to shut bars in the state.

First, a Kerala High Court division bench stayed an order of its single bench which ruled Thursday that only 4-star, 5-star and heritage hotels could operate bar licences in the state. Later, the head of the state’s association of bar owners alleged that the state Finance Minister had accepted a bribe of Rs 1 crore from its representatives to facilitate the renewal of licences of 418 bar across all categories.

It is the second charge that could put Chief Minister Minister Oommen Chandy in a tight spot. For, Finance Minister K M Mani heads the Kerala Congress (M), a regional Christian-dominated party that is a key ally propping up the government in power.

In a late night press conference, the bar owners’ association representative Biju Ramesh told TV channels that Mani had sought Rs 5 crore for facilitating the renewal of the licences of the 418 hotel bars that had been identified by excise officials as “sub-standard” and closed since April.

Mani later accepted Rs 1 crore which was delivered at his residence in Kottayam’s Pala, Ramesh alleged. “I am ready to undergo any lie detection test in this regard. The minister had demanded Rs 5 crore, but we have given him Rs 1 crore. I am ready to give evidence to any investigating agency in this regard,’’ said Ramesh.

Minutes later, the political fallout of that allegation started playing out with P C George, a leader and spokesperson of KC (M), accused Chandy of instigating the bar owners against Mani. “Why is Mani being singled out in this issue?’’ asked George. BJP state president V Muraleedharan demanded that Mani should be sacked from the Cabinet.

Ramesh, meanwhile, claimed that he would reveal tomorrow the names of the association members who had handed over the money to the minister.

Earlier, the High Court division bench ordered status quo to be maintained in the case for the next one month. Accordingly, the division bench allowed functioning of 250-odd three-star bar hotels, which the government wanted to close down from Friday.

The directive was in response to a writ petition filed by the hotel bar owners in the division bench of Justice Thottathil Radhakrishnan and Babu Mathew Joseph.

The division bench found that there was discrimination in the government policy, which facilitated drinking for the “elite class” only.

The court also expressed doubts about the intention of the government in enforcing prohibition when state beverages corporation outlets were still open. The corporation has been handling 80 per cent of the liquor distribution in the state. The court said it would consider the petition again, on November 18.

The ruling drew mixed reactions from the political class with Congress state president V M Sudheeran – the man behind the prohibition move – saying that the verdict did not reflect the sentiments of the people.

However, opposition leader and CPM veteran V S Achuthanandan said the ruling only confirmed that the liquor policy of the government continued…

- See more at: http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-others/kerala-finance-minister-asked-for-rs-5-cr-we-paid-him-rs-1-cr/?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed#sthash.PP1qvYnW.dpuf

Mohan, Adiiipur
D-31/47
Nov 01, 2014
09:18 AM

>> On a serious note, this filthy bastard actively encouraged the Pandits to be driven away from Kashmir

Has OLI carried the story about Zee censoring Kher's recital of poem about Kashmiri Pandits, or has Vinod asked for a ban on that story?

Whats InAName
San Francisco, United States
D-30/46
Nov 01, 2014
09:16 AM

>> Bukhari is being skinned alive on Muslim websites today

Have any of the sickos spoken against him yet?

And which are these websites that you keep referring to? Do they exist outside of your imagination?

I checked twocircles and newageislam. TCN didn't carry anything (at least on the front page), and NAI had a teensy article, which is not even a reprimand, far from being labeled as "skinning alive". Which are these sites?

Whats InAName
San Francisco, United States
D-29/35
Nov 01, 2014
09:14 AM

"..bands of roving men who disapprove of Hindu women in relationships with Muslim men." NYT quoted by CAIR pracharak

The NYT article makes no mention of the Koranic injunction against Muslims marrying infidels nor does it mention that Hindus all over India have been killed by Muslims for marrying Muslim women.

Once again, we see the double standards of these sickos. The amazing thing is that so many of these Muslim ass sniffers are Hindu and Christian women even though Hindu and Christian women are at the receiving end of Muslim violence. In Pakistan, more than 1000 Hindu and Christian women are kidnapped, forcibly converted and raped by Muslims each year, according to recent NGO report. In Nigeria, Christian women are literally being enslaved by the Boko Haram. In Iraq and Syria, Christian and Yazidi women are being enslaved and raped by Muslims.

Yet these women like Sister Nivedita, the author of the NYT article and our own Bibi Saroja pant after Muslims, defending their actions or at least carefully avoiding any criticism of their actions. It is either some form of Stockholm syndrome or hybristophilia (the attraction some women feel towards thugs and criminals) - but it is some mental illness.

Janwaar Bibi
BibiSarai, Iraq
D-28/34
Nov 01, 2014
09:09 AM

" "Four facts about Sardar Patel that Modi would find disappointing..."

1. "Patel was not enamoured of the RSS"

It is NOT NECESSARY that one should agree with everything that Patel said or did. Was Jawaharlal Nehru "enamoured" of everything Gandhiji believed in?

2. "Nehru did not steal the prime minister's crown from Patel"

Nehru might have been charismatic and popular but he was no match for Patel in terms of ability. Patel also had the support of a majority of Congressmen.

Nehru did not "steal" the crown. Gandhiji "stole" it for him. Here is an interesting narration of events:

" An interim government was to be formed which was to be headed by the Congress president as Congress had won the maximum number of seats in the 1946 elections. All of a sudden, the post of Congress president became very crucial as it was this very person  who was going to become the first Prime Minister of independent India.

"(Maulana) Azad (the then president of the party) was also interested in fighting and winning election for  the Congress president’s post  as he, too, had ambitions to become the PM,  but he was told in no uncertain terms by Mahatma Gandhi that he does not approve of a second term for a sitting Congress president and Azad had to fall in line, albeit reluctantly. Not only this, Gandhi made it very clear to everybody that Nehru was his preferred choice for the Congress president’s position.

"The last date for the nominations for the post of the President of Congress, and thereby the first Prime Minister of India, was April 29, 1946.

"And the nominations were to be made by 15 state/regional Congress committees. Despite Gandhi’s well-known preference for Nehru as Congress president, not a single Congress committee nominated Nehru's name.

https://m.facebook.com/notes/bangalore-city/why-gandhi-opted-for-nehru-and-not-sardar-patel-for-pm-inside-story/321262204679765

3. "Patel bears as much responsiblity for Partition as Nehru"

Patel was a prescient visionary. He felt that a community led by the likes of Jinnah and Suhrawardy would have tremendous capacity for mischief and subsequent events have proved that Patel was right.

4.  "Patel did not want the Babri Masjid demolished"

Nor would any sensible, pragmatic person like Modi. Conflict resolution by negotiations is immensly preferable to taking law into one's hands. It is worth noticing that demolishing places of worship is antithetical to the spirit of Hinduism. Iconoclasm is not an article of faith for Hindus.

The 1992 demolition was a one off aberration. To this day, the mosque built by Aurangzeb stands on the original site of one of Hinduism's most ancient and holy shrines, the Kashi Vishwanath.

Modi is restoring to Sardar Patel the kind of respect and recognition that this great patriot deserves so greatly and which has been denied to him by the Nehruvian establishment. 

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-27/34
Nov 01, 2014
09:07 AM

>> It’s Not ‘Jihad.’ It’s Just Love. (NYTimes)

Did Mishra have a sex change operation recently?

Whats InAName
San Francisco, United States
D-26/33
Nov 01, 2014
08:51 AM


It’s Not ‘Jihad.’ It’s Just Love. (NYTimes)

Right-wing Hindu men are attacking Hindu women who marry Muslims — under the phony pretext that the women are victims of a supposed “love jihad.”

In several parts of the country, consenting adults who have broken no laws have been threatened, beaten up and, in a medieval twist, had their faces painted black by pumped-up bands of roving men who disapprove of Hindu women in relationships with Muslim men.

There have been reports of women being forcibly shoved into cars and dragged to police stations, from which they are made to phone their parents. Adult women, treated like chattel, like criminals and like juveniles.

Right-wing assailants have stopped weddings between interfaith couples from taking place. They have even forced married women to desert their Muslim husbands, and to marry Hindus instead.

The men behind these attacks are no mere vigilantes; they represent extreme right-wing groups with great political clout, such as the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh, the Bajrang Dal, and even the ruling Bharatiya Janata Party.

www.nytimes.com/2014/11/02/opinion/sunday/its-not-jihad-its-just-love.html



Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-25/1
Nov 01, 2014
08:28 AM

Fadnavis is young and educated with a background of hard work.

Fadnavis must liberate BMC from cluthces of SS.

Get likes of Pawar,Bhujbal and Tatkare jailed for massive defraud of State.

He was most vociferous as LOO.

Now he has it all,Go Fadnavis

harun, chennai
D-24/2
Nov 01, 2014
08:25 AM

The Congress already lost considerable standing in the Muslim community  when Sonia Gandhi openly sought the Imam's support and he too obliged by openly asking Muslims to vote for Congress in the 2014 Lok Sabha elections. The results clearly showed that such patent seeking of votes on a sheer communal basis backfired on the Congress. Perhaps wisdom has now dawned on the Congress that the Imam has little following among Muslims. 

N.S.Rajan, Bangalore
D-23/45
Nov 01, 2014
08:24 AM

" Then his father and now he himself just wants to feel important and would do anything , even seemingly foolish acts , to gain lost grounds "

I still remember a panel discussion some 20 years ago on Zee TV in which Bukhari Jr and Uma Bharati were participants. It was lovely to see the way an ebullient Uma Bharati bullied the junior Imam. 

The senior Bukhari was a different person. He was massive and had a strong, menacing presence. Good to know that an IPS officer stood up to him.

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-22/33
Nov 01, 2014
08:22 AM

Nobody living in a Majority dominated Nation should any problem with a RSS or VHP,after all the Majority does have a say.

Yes when such organisations spread divide and dis harmony they are doing disservice to India and very concept of India.

The same holds good for Organisations of other communities as well.

Any riot is a shame on humanity.

Muslims must accept that things arnt going to get better and with likes of Bukhari raising the very Question of Muslim patroitism by his actions.

Muslims are losing ground as citizens and unless people like Bukhari are disowned by them,they are going to get no where.

 

harun, chennai
D-21/44
Nov 01, 2014
08:20 AM

You deserve my salute Mr.MOHAN.

sandilya
Chennai, India
D-20/2
Nov 01, 2014
08:14 AM

" This daughter would never had made headlines if she were a boy."

For sure. Nobody has ever heard of Rajiv Gandhi, Sanjay Gandhi, Rahul Gandhi and Varun Gandhi. FYI, they were all MALE children who spent a part of their childhood in prime ministerial homes.

Then there is a certain Robert Vadra who hits the headlines regularly for his money making skills.

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-19/6
Nov 01, 2014
08:14 AM

Its hard o make sense of the studied silence of sickular media on the issue of Burdwan blasts, thousands of madrassas along Bangladesh border acting as terror incubators and indoctrination.

MARTANDSUNTEMPLE

Media likes to tom tom only when there is some thing to punch the BJP or Modi and not when their cohorts are with pants down

sandilya
Chennai, India
D-18/43
Nov 01, 2014
08:12 AM

Recommended read about Abdullah Bukhari aka Shahi Imam & his "clout", and what he is capable of, via a 1st hand a/c.

Tilak Raj Kakkar This man Abdullha Bhukari is in the news for his foolishness to deliberately ignore the PM . This is one way for him to be in the news and convey it to just a few thousand followers in the lanes of Jama Masjid area only that he also exists .  His father has done this before , always trying to create differences between the communities . I had witnessed this trait of the family as far back as 1979 . Bukharies have no guts to face the authorities , no guts but use their religious clout to create disturbances .
In the year 1979 , I was DCP of central district Delhi , highly communally sensitive areas in those areas like jama masjid , Hauze Qazi etc . After a month or so in the district I realized that the then imam of Jama Masjid thought himself to be the real authority and had sway over trouble shooters of the area . It was not his mistake . He had been given that sort of impression by the political leaders of yester years . I did not prescribe to his assumed lordship of the area, with due respect to the imam . My first brush with him was when I got feelers from him that I should meet him one day in my official capacity . With my army background I was unable to adjust and digest the command from an extra constitutional authority . Believe me , in refusing to comply with the diktat I had no intention of lowering prestige of the Imam among his followers . But I was definitely concerned about the status of the office of the DCP . I also knew that he had tremendous influence in his den and his one ishara was enough to turn the area into communal conflagration . Yet , I felt that the Imam need not be given extra importance and it was not necessary for the district officers to present themselves in his court . The area SHO was enough for the task .

Anyway , many eyebrows were raised when I did not go to see him in his office . I did meet him on a few social functions where both of us were invited .
And then came the generated riot in September ,1979 to teach me a lesson . A very serious riot . To cut the story short we resorted to firing , shot dead a few rioters on both sides , brought the situation under control and imposed curfew in the areas . It was difficult time . I too was injured along with a few of my loyal ones . We had not now taken rest or slept for over 36 hrs . 

The area was under curfew . Curfew violators were being rounded up . I was present in the police outpost then located opposite the southern stairs of the masjid , when I heard roar of the imam castigating the policemen and exhorting his followers . He saw me and further roared that if police had the guts he too should be arrested and saying so he started descending the stairs . Now this was too much a challenge of the authority . I foolishly shouted back , " come down and face the consequences " . He saw my resolve and my determination to take bull by the horn . He stopped descending , halted and looked at me with blood shot eyes but went back . 
These religious leaders love comforts , pomp and show and a police cell or jail has none of these .
Then his father and now he himself just wants to feel important and would do anything , even seemingly foolish acts , to gain lost grounds . This is what he has done just to show his arrogance and assumed importance .
I am sure right thinking and responsible Muslim leaders and Muslims in general do not approve of his self seeking act .
Mohan, Adiiipur
D-17/5
Nov 01, 2014
07:57 AM

Its hard o make sense of the studied silence of sickular media on the issue of Burdwan blasts, thousands of madrassas along Bangladesh border acting as terror incubators and indoctrination.

So here is the latest on the issue.

"The National Investigation Agency (NIA) on Friday announced rewards ranging from Rs.3 lakh to Rs.10 lakh on 12 suspected members of banned terror outfit Jamaat-ul Mujahideen Bangladesh (JMB) in connection with the Bardhaman blast case.

It has identified Sajid, a suspected Bangladeshi national, as the head of the Bardhaman module. The accused had been staying at Mukimnagar in Murshidabad. A bounty of Rs.10 lakh has been declared on him.

The other suspects on whom the NIA has declared a reward of Rs.10 lakh each are Kausar, Nasirullah, Talha Sheikh and Maulana Yusuf Sheikh. The agency suspects that Kausar, also Bangladeshi national, was actively involved in smuggling improvised explosive devices to his country. “Nasirullah and Talha are also suspected to be from Bangladesh,” said an official.

Absconding suspect Abul Kalam, Burhan Sheikh, Rejaul Karim and Jahirul Shaikh carry a reward of Rs.3 lakh each, while a bounty of Rs.5 lakh each has been announced on Amjad Ali Sheikh, Sahanur Alom and Habibur Rahman Sheikh.

Photographs of 10 of the suspects have also been released for their identification. According to the NIA, seven of the suspects are said to be from different parts of West Bengal and Assam. “All the 12 suspects have been declared proclaimed offenders by court in connection with the Bardhaman blast case or the conspiracy hatched by the JMB,” said the official"

For 4 days afer the blast , the state police tried to minimize the issue and refrained from investigating and thus allowed the culprits to escape.

MartandSunTemple
Martand Sun Temple, India
D-16/32
Nov 01, 2014
07:54 AM

>>> I wish that OLI will provide us with the facility to preview and correct our posts just as some websites do. - DLN

You are much better than me with regard to typos. While reading my own posts, I have noticed many times errors of syntax and inappropriate use of articles and spelling mistakes. I reconciled to it by asuring myself as Ghai saab has told , the message matters. But accuracy makes the post look better.

sandilya
Chennai, India
D-15/1
Nov 01, 2014
07:53 AM

The Congress "HIGH" command is known for always backing the wrong horse. In Tamil nadu now, they are backing Chidambaram. However, the situation for the Congress in Tamil Nadu is such at the moment that nothing can either damage or improve further the party' standing. They are at the bottom of the barrel and nobody can lift them up.

N.S.Rajan, Bangalore
D-14/31
Nov 01, 2014
06:54 AM

I wish that OLI will provide us with the facility to preview and correct our posts just as some websites do. - DLN

I second that.

Bonita, Chennai
D-13/58
Nov 01, 2014
04:40 AM

"During the Enlightenment, historians tended to view both the Crusades and the entire Middle Ages as the efforts of (Europe's) barbarian cultures driven by fanaticism." CAIR pracharak quoting Wikipedia

1) And what did the historians of the Enlightenment say about the jihadis and the jihadi conquest of Christian countries from Spain to Byzantium? Unlike modern day multicultis, they had no illusions about the Saracen savages or their appetite for slaves and women. Here is John Quincy Adams, President of the US, on Islam and Muslims:

http://www.apologeticspress.org/apcontent.aspx?category=7&article=1142

"In the seventh century of the Christian era, a wandering Arab of the lineage of Hagar, the Egyptian, combining the powers of transcendent genius, with the preternatural energy of a fanatic, and the fraudulent spirit of an impostor, proclaimed himself as a messenger from Heaven, and spread desolation and delusion over an extensive portion of the earth. Adopting from the sublime conception of the Mosaic law, the doctrine of one omnipotent God; he connected indissolubly with it, the audacious falsehood, that he was himself his prophet and apostle. Adopting from the new Revelation of Jesus, the faith and hope of immortal life, and of future retribution, he humbled it to the dust, by adapting all the rewards and sanctions of his religion to the gratification of the sexual passion. He poisoned the sources of human felicity at the fountain, by degrading the condition of the female sex, and the allowance of polygamy; and he declared undistinguishing and exterminating war, as a part of his religion, against all the rest of mankind. THE ESSENCE OF HIS DOCTRINE WAS VIOLENCE AND LUST: TO EXALT THE BRUTAL OVER THE SPIRITUAL PART OF HUMAN NATURE.

Between these two religions, thus contrasted in their characters, a war of twelve hundred years has already raged. That war is yet flagrant; nor can it cease but by the extinction of that imposture, which has been permitted by Providence to prolong the degeneracy of man. While the merciless and dissolute dogmas of the false prophet shall furnish motives to human action, there can never be peace upon earth, and good will towards men. The hand of Ishmael will be against every man, and every man’s hand against him. It is, indeed, amongst the mysterious dealings of God, that this delusion should have been suffered for so many ages, and during so many generations of human kind, to prevail over the doctrines of the meek and peaceful and benevolent Jesus (Blunt, 1830, 29:269, capitals in orig.)."

As recently as a hundred years ago, Churchill compared Islam to a form of hydrophobia (rabies) that causes men to foam at the mouth violently.

Given what we see in the world even today, it is clear that people like John Quincy Adams and Churchill say the truth about Islam very clearly.

2) As for barbarism and fanaticism, it is difficult to beat concepts like "jihad," "Slay the idolaters wherever you find them," "There is no god but Allah," or the belief that this "god" permits his cult members to rape the wives and daughters of their enemies at will because it is pleasing to him.

Janwaar Bibi
BibiSarai, Iraq
D-12/34
Nov 01, 2014
04:23 AM

9 D Anwaar,

"God only knows what else he believes!..."

Even worse, Mr. Modi’s views echo those of Dinanath Batra. His books are now part of the curriculum in 42,000 schools across Gujarat and carry messages from Mr. Modi when he was Chief Minister. They claim stem cell research was known in the days of Kunti and the Kauravas, television was invented at the time of the Mahabharata and the motor car existed in the Vedic period. Few would deny this is nonsense. Why wouldn’t you say the same for the claim India mastered genetic science and plastic surgery in prehistoric times?

http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/op-ed/comment-the-two-faces-of-mr-modi/article6553304.ece?homepage=true

misogynist
chennai, India
D-11/1
Nov 01, 2014
04:10 AM

Religious fanaticism has been on the upswing.

misogynist, chennai
D-10/1
Nov 01, 2014
04:08 AM

This daughter would never had made headlines if she were a boy.

misogynist, chennai
D-9/1
Nov 01, 2014
04:06 AM

Kiran Bedi was police officer for BOTH men and women, and now talks like a feminist preacher!

Shame on her.

misogynist, chennai
D-8/30
Nov 01, 2014
04:05 AM

28 D Anwaar

"Four facts about Sardar Patel that Modi would find disappointing..."

Sanghis like Modi are half read about the Indian freedom struggle. Mischievous people want to misinform, in order to misuse it.

The only use they have for it, is to suggest that right wing worker were more respect worthy than their leaders. And thus confuse everyone to their views, by parroting lies.

misogynist, chennai
D-7/1
Nov 01, 2014
03:33 AM

A swiss magazine many years ago had published the photo of Rajib Gandhi, along with others who has stashed money in foreign banks. This was also quoted by Mr.Jethmalani today in OUTLOOK in his letter to the finance minister. It is surprising that Congress party or any members of his family did not take the magazine to court then.  

george, london
D-6/57
Nov 01, 2014
01:47 AM

"Only an ignoramus would accept that as the major cause for the Crusades. As Wiki sums up......."

Wow. Anwaar acquires his history lessons from wiki. No wonder he comes across as a man entirely out of his depth. 

That wiki stub was probably written by a wishy washy apologist like Anwaar to obfuscate the issue. Blame Pope Urban's ambition, drag in the 16th century protestants for something that happened 500 years earlier, call the crusaders barbarians......do everything but admit that in 1065, the Seljuqs captured Jerusalem, destroyed churches and slaughtered 3000 Christian pilgrims. Big deal huh?

Why should such a minor skirmish provoke crusades? After all, hundreds of temples were demolished and hundreds of thousands of Indians were massacred, if not more. Did the Indians retaliate? No, they realised that their religions were false and rushed to embrace the only true religion that guaranteed eternal accommodation in a hedonistic paradise.

The crusaders, being barbarians, were incapable of appreciating the only true religion. That is why they launched the crusades. QED. 

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-5/29
Nov 01, 2014
01:24 AM

"Nobody has ever said Gandhiji appears incomplete without Patel.".....Anwaar

This is what Gandhiji wrote in his autobiography:

"If anything, I can only claim the cleverness that is necessary for a commander in picking out men for his campaign. I was clever enough in doing that, but there too I should not have achieved anything if you had not acquitted yourselves well. I will say that without the help of Vallabhbhai Patel, we should not have won the campaign. He had a splendid practice, he had his municipal work to do, but he renounced it all and threw himself in the campaign.

archive.org/stream/MahatmaLifeOfMohandasKaramachandGandhi/TXT/00000423.txt

Obviously, Anwaar knows more about Gandhiji than the Mahatma himself.

On a lighter note, it is amusing to see how Anwaar insists on opening his mouth wide and then promptly shoves his foot into it with alacrity. 

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-4/56
Nov 01, 2014
01:15 AM

DLN,

>> "what happened is that after the caliphate lost control of Jerusalem to the Seljuqs in 1065, horrific massacres of Christians took place"

Only an ignoramus would accept that as the major cause for the Crusades. As Wiki sums up, "Some historians see the Crusades as part of a purely defensive war against Islamic conquest; some see them as part of long-running conflict at the frontiers of Europe; and others see them as confident, aggressive, papal-led expansion attempts by Western Christendom.... Urban II sought to reunite the Christian church under his leadership by providing Emperor Alexios I with military support. Several hundred thousand Roman Catholic Christians became crusaders by taking a public vow and receiving plenary indulgences from the church. These crusaders were Christians from all over Western Europe under feudal rather than unified command, and the politics were often complicated to the point of intra-faith competition leading to alliances between combatants of different faiths against their coreligionists, such as the Christian alliance with the Islamic Sultanate of Rûm during the Fifth Crusade.....During the Reformation and Counter-Reformation of the 16th century, historians saw the Crusades through the prism of their own religious beliefs. Protestants saw them as a manifestation of the evils of the Papacy, while Catholics viewed the movement as a force for good. During the Enlightenment, historians tended to view both the Crusades and the entire Middle Ages as the efforts of (Europe's) barbarian cultures driven by fanaticism."

Your ignorance in history, just as your ignorance in politics, is motivated by your usual ignoble animus. 

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-3/6
Nov 01, 2014
12:55 AM


Sad that someone with 22 criminal cases registered against him becomes the CM of Maharashtra. 

Anwaar, Dallas
D-2/2
Nov 01, 2014
12:43 AM

 
> "Only she whose body is hurt, knows."

How true!

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-1/28
Nov 01, 2014
12:17 AM


Four facts about Sardar Patel that Modi would find disappointing

1) Patel was not enamoured of the RSS

After Gandhi's assassination, Patel wrote. "“… as [a] result of the activities of these two bodies [the RSS and the Hindu Mahasabha], particularly the former, an atmosphere was created in the country in which such a ghastly tragedy became possible. There is no doubt in my mind the extreme section of the Hindu Mahasbha was involved in this conspiracy. The activities of the RSS constituted a clear threat to the existence of the Government and the State.”

2) Nehru did not steal the prime minister's crown from Patel

The simple reason as to why Nehru became PM was that he was, by far, the Congress’ most popular politician (after Gandhi, of course). Right from the 1937 provincial elections, Nehru was the party’s star campaigner, enthralling crowds with his Hindustani oratory. Patel had an iron grip on the Congress party itself but he was many miles behind Nehru as a popular leader. The Sardar himself conceded this: at a massively attended Congress rally in Mumbai, he told American journalist Vincent Sheean, “They come for Jawahar, not for me."

3) Patel bears as much responsiblity for Partition as Nehru

Whatever be the wrongs of Partition, it was a decision taken jointly both Nehru and Patel. In fact, if anything, Patel was far more receptive to the idea and Nehru only came around much later and far more reluctantly. VP Menon, the architect of the Partition Plan, informs us that as far back as December 1946, Patel had accepted the division of India while Nehru would only acquiesce six months later. Abul Kalam Azad, a staunch critic of Partition right till the very end, was disappointed with Patel’s support and writes in his memoir, India wins Freedom, that he was “surprised and pained when Patel in reply [to why Partition was needed] said that whether we liked it or not, there were two nations in India”.

4) Patel did not want the Babri Masjid demolished

In 1949, a mob descended upon the Babri Masjid and, after chasing away the muezzin, installed an idol of Ram Lalla in order to claim it as a temple. Within a month of the incident, Patel shot off a letter to the chief minister of Uttar Pradesh, GB Pant warning that “there can be no question of resolving such disputes by force”. Patel opined that “such matters can only be resolved peacefully if we take the willing consent of the Muslim community with us”.

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Anwaar, Dallas