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D-97/15
Jul 28, 2014
03:23 PM

Ramki, VM could possibly answer your rather silly and irrelevant question. However, stooping to your level ot stupidity, maybe you can explain why your left nut is smaller than your right nut.

Raja
Delhi, India
D-96/3
Jul 28, 2014
03:03 PM

Here is some factual reporting:

http://www.indiafacts.co.in/muslim-intolerance-raises-head-saharanpur/

Santosh Gairola, Hsinchu
D-95/4
Jul 28, 2014
03:01 PM

HE SPEAKS

Next
Modi please

V.N.K.Murti Pattambi
PATTAMBI, India
D-94/4
Jul 28, 2014
03:01 PM

HE SPEAKS

Next
Modi please

V.N.K.Murti Pattambi
PATTAMBI, India
D-93/13
Jul 28, 2014
02:58 PM

43 @ Ramki sir
The accusation was before death. 
Here it is after death. Not same situation.

V.N.K.Murti Pattambi
PATTAMBI, India
D-92/7
Jul 28, 2014
02:52 PM

Only an Indian could write this nonsense. Indians are so used to Pakistanis and Chinese walking into their land, beheading soldiers and killing at will, and the state does nothing at all. So we find it very offensive that Israel is fighting to stop the enemy from firing rockets into its territory. The tunnels show that Palestinians are not so innocent as is made out to be. Rather than cry about an unequal war, let this writer also comment on Pakistani intrusion into India's territory and how India should deal with it.

Dinesh Kumar
Chandigarh, India
D-91/12
Jul 28, 2014
02:46 PM

The Katju revelations may be new for the media, but the lawyers and the middlemen have long known how our courts really function. Every judge has a son-in-law who is a lawyer practising in the same court, and judgements - when they are delivered - suit one of the two. In the other courts, the only thing that judges do is to grant dates. Let's hope that now, since the matter has come to the notice of the press, something gets done about our defunct legal system.

Dinesh Kumar
Chandigarh, India
D-90/8
Jul 28, 2014
02:36 PM

PAC NEAD MR RAO IS FROM CONGRESS .

THAT TAKES CARE OF SECUS WORRIES .

ab unko koi neai Chnita Lag jaye gi .Royety dhotey rahein hein hamesha .

ashok kumar ghai
Mumbai, India
D-89/7
Jul 28, 2014
02:31 PM

Regarding Opposition Member to sit in Selection Committe for CVC ,CAG and other constitutional Posts BJP HAS ALREADY SAID BIGGEST OPPOSITION PARTY CAN NOMINATE THE THIRSD MEMBER .

ALEADY HEADS OF 24 COMMITTEES HAVE BEEN NOMINATED UNANIMOUSLY .PAC HEAD IS MR RAO .

ALSO THAMBIDURAI AIDMK IS NOMINATED DY SPEAKER OF THE LOKSBHA .

WHAT IS LEFT FOR LOP TO DO ??

ashok kumar ghai
Mumbai, India
D-88/12
Jul 28, 2014
02:28 PM

" his chauvinistic and regressive forays in the field of education."

1. Chauvinism and regressive education is not something new. That is one of the reasons why ISIS has so many takers in India.

2. After the damage caused by Macaulay and the Marxist-socialist-Nehruvian ideaolgy that followed it in the field of education, it is okay to expose our school children to contrarian ideas.

3. Instilling pride on our heritage is not chavinism nor is it regressive since nobody is advocating a return to some idealised past. A people who have been a subject race for millennnia need to be inspired by their heritage to cast away the last vestiges of slavish mentality from their collective psyche.

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-87/44
Jul 28, 2014
02:13 PM

Many have demanded action against Nadvi. "He is not a Sunni. He is acting on behest of Saudi Arabia, a Wahhabi-influenced country. He must be stopped from creating schism between Shias and Sunnis," said Farid Batatawala of Muslim Front. ''

Faruki sahib

'Dil ko Behlaney ko Galib yeh Khayal accha hein ""

Neither State Govt or Central Govt will dare to touch Nadvi.
The moment even Nadvi is just called to explain his conduct all the Muslim Fronts,Tanzeem and Maulvies along with  thousands of Muslims will be on Road protesting and marching .
Farid Batawala -Kandawala -Mirchiwala will be the first one to protest saying ::: MEIN YEH TOH NAHIN KHA THA "

Faruki sahib too will also be finding faults -Yani ke yoon nahi hona chaiye tha -woohn nahin hona chaiye tha ''

Hamm kayal hein Aaap logon ki Dorangi dholki bajne ki Kabliyat  sey.

ashok kumar ghai
Mumbai, India
D-86/23
Jul 28, 2014
02:12 PM


D.L.Narayan,

>> "I don't care if you seek to justify your views by clubbing together a disparate groups."

Of course not! All you care about is to smear people with your habitual lying and dishonesty.

>> "Will you deny that right now the biggest threat to world peace is Islamic fundamentalism?"

It is not the biggest threat to world peace. I do not know any authority who says that. Can you delineate how Islamic fundamentalism or militant Islam (I am against both) can lead to world war? 

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-85/9
Jul 28, 2014
02:11 PM

Nicompoops and sycophants.

Dinesh Kumar
Chandigarh, India
D-84/23
Jul 28, 2014
02:09 PM

Yes, it can happen to anyone. Perhaps the Bangalore protestors, heedless of rapes in other parts of the country, realise that now. With lax laws, poor implementation and a politicised police, such incidents are only going to increase in the future. Let's hope the outrage produces some political action, though I am not optimist about that.

Dinesh Kumar
Chandigarh, India
D-83/20
Jul 28, 2014
02:02 PM

The problem of rape has got out of hand in India. Rape is the weapon to settle political or communial scores, but ultimately it is against women. Till institutional measures are taken - reforming the police, professionalising them, better implementation of laws - this problem is going to stay. The rapes and the murders will become more and more brutal because punishment is either late or absent. However, if anyone had any hope that the BJP government would take up this task, ignored by the Congress for so long, they have been disappointed.

Dinesh Kumar
Chandigarh, India
D-82/11
Jul 28, 2014
02:01 PM

 
D.L.Naarayan,

>> "Dinanath Batra is entitled to the same right to FoE as anyone else."

I did not question his right to free speech. I expressed concern about educated and intelligent Hindutvawadis' silence regarding his chauvinistic and regressive forays in the field of education. 

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-81/2
Jul 28, 2014
01:59 PM

I observe that Curfew is relaxed in Hindu Sikh area in the Forenoon and in Muslim areas the Curfew will be relaxed in the After Noon.

Better the curfew should have been relaxed in both the areas. The Hindu Muslims of Sharanpur have no problem among themselves.

IT WAS THE OUTSIDERS WHO ATTACKED THE GURUDWARA.

MUSLIM LADIES SAY OUTSIDERS ARE HIDING IN LANES AND BYE LANES and at night they come out ,burn the shops and quickly disappear back .

SARKAR SHOULD FLUSH OUT THE CULPRITS -NOT DIFICULT IF AKHILESH SARKAR IS SERIOUS.


I saw on TV Hindu Sikhs purchasing medicines,milk,vegetables in plenty to stock.

All complained that UP Govt is not doing any thing to alleviate their misery.

TOMORROW IS EID -GOVT IS FEARING TO RELAX CURFEW .

ashok kumar ghai, Mumbai
D-80/1
Jul 28, 2014
01:47 PM

Now another incident .

TV said in RAMPUR the seat of power of AZAM KHAN SAMAJWADI Minister -two bikes involved in an collision belonging to two different groups -safely assume Hindu Muslim boys involved in the collision .

Pistols came out .Firing took place . 3 killed and 7 injured .

Now TV has changed the version a little and says '- Motor cycle entered one field ,damaged the crop and firing took place.

TOMORROW IS EID .

Sharanpur and Rampur and are under Communal strife.

Meanwhile Gurudawara land dispute is far from resolution.
Muslims confirm that one Muslim Aksari built a Mosque but sold the adjoining area to two Hindu sisters in 1947 with stipulation that Mosque will stand as it is and area of the Mosque is out of purview of the Sale Deed .

Muslims say they have no objection for land sold to the Gurudawara but san Masjid area.

SIKHS SAY NO MOSQUE STANDS ON THE AREA UNDER THEIR CONTROL NOR ANY MOSQUE IS SEEN NEARBY THE GURUDAWARA LAND .

But the Chowk is called Aksari Masjid Chowck but no Masjid is seen or exists.

Meanwhile Sikhs took Morch on PathanKot Jammu Highway and jammed it .

SGPC Akhal Thakat has sent a team to understand the problem.

Alegations are flying thick and thin that Masood the 'Tukre-Tukre kar doonga-wala' 

Congress MP is fomenting trouble in view of the bye Elections in UP .

Both Muslims and Sikhs say the Muslim rioters who stoned the Gurudawara and torched Hindu-Skih Shops were outsiders. They attacked the Gurudawara and disappeared when the Polce arrived.

I heard Muslim Ladies.Muslim men  and Sikhs saying on TV that outsiders who attacked the Gurudawara were never seen before.

ashok kumar ghai, Mumbai
D-79/61
Jul 28, 2014
01:45 PM


Editorial - The New York Times

India's Press Under Siege

India’s government has a responsibility to act to protect the free press before corporate consolidation and private censorship further erode citizens’ right to know.

www.nytimes.com/2014/07/28/opinion/Indias-Press-Under-Siege.html

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-78/22
Jul 28, 2014
01:35 PM


D.L.Narayan,

>> "It takes two to tango."

"The Oslo Accords did not stop the continued settlement expansion and blockades which caused the deterioration of economic conditions, and much frustration for Palestinians. In 20 years since the Oslo Accords, until 2013, the settler population is tripled. Most new settlers moved to settlements near the Green Line. The vast majority of the settlers who moved to isolated settlements more eastwards were ideologically motivated. After Oslo, the Israeli government took upon itself not to establish new settlements. Instead, however, some 100 outposts were established, encouraged and supported by the government.

"The 2013 third Netanyahu government drastically enhanced new constructions in settlements, most without tenders and most in isolated settlements scattered over all of the West Bank. Additionally, the government published planning tenders for large-scale settlement construction in the area around East Jerusalem." - Wiki
 

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-77/21
Jul 28, 2014
01:30 PM

"Can you tell me which of my views differ from the views of Indian secular liberals, or British secular liberals or atheist secular liberals? "

I don't care if you seek to justify your views by clubbing together a disparate groups of atheists and Nehruvian socialists into an ideological strait jacket. Defending the indefensible is not what one expects of secular liberals, whatever their hue.

Will you deny that right now the biggest threat to world peace is Islamic fundamentalism? 

A simple yes or no will suffice. Invective is optional, even though it is undesirable.

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-76/43
Jul 28, 2014
01:27 PM


Sunnis demand action against Maulana who wrote to Saudi govt

MUMBAI: Expressing shock and anguish over cleric Maulana Salman Hussaini Nadvi's letter to the Saudi government requesting it to prepare an Army of five lakh Indian Sunni Muslims to fight the Shia militias in Iraq, a section of Sunnis in the city have demanded strict action against him.

Many have demanded action against Nadvi. "He is not a Sunni. He is acting on behest of Saudi Arabia, a Wahhabi-influenced country. He must be stopped from creating schism between Shias and Sunnis," said Farid Batatawala of Muslim Front.

timesofindia.indiatimes.com/City/Mumbai/Sunnis-demand-action-against-Maulana-who-wrote-to-Saudi-govt/articleshow/39082302.cms

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-75/6
Jul 28, 2014
01:13 PM

@ Suresh - "One of the opposition parties came begging for LoP post. It was not granted that status as it was not fit for the post. The begging bowl is attached".

ROTFLMAO.

Was mentally picturing Sonia Gandhi in a mendicant's garb, begging bowl in hand, saying "Bhavati Bikshandehi".

LoP daata, sukhi bhava.

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-74/42
Jul 28, 2014
01:10 PM

Indian Maulvi's sagacious Sermons to Indian Muslims and Saudia :

"" Nadwa cleric asks Saudi govt to prepare an army of Sunni youth for Iraq

LUCKNOW/MUMBAI: After hitting the headlines for greeting Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the self-appointed caliph and head of Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS), Sunni theologian Maulana Salman Nadvi of Darul Uloom Nadwatul Ulama, in an open letter, has asked the Saudi government to prepare an army of five lakh Indian Sunni Muslim youth to fight against the Shia militias in Iraq and elsewhere.''

timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Nadwa-cleric-asks-Saudi-govt-to-prepare-an-army-of-Sunni-youth-for-Iraq/articleshow/39012903.cms

'' In his earlier letter, Nadvi expressed confidence that Iraqi Sunnis were with ISIS and that Bagdhadi's "clean and pious character is worth praise". He also criticized Iraqi prime minister Nouri Maliki, and hoped that under al-Baghdadi's leadership, justice would prevail. The grandson of well-known Nadwa rector and late president of AIMPLB Abul Hasan Ali Nadvi (popularly Ali Miyan), Maulana Salman's stance has left other Muslim clerics uneasy, more so because of the influence he wields among the faithful. ""

WE HAVE REAL PROBLEM AT OUR HANDS WITH RADICALS .

ANOTHER NEWS IS


 ''2 missing Kalyan youths call up families, confirm they're fighting for ISIS in Syria

KALYAN: Two of the four Kalyan youths suspected to have joined the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) called up their families earlier this week and confirmed they were working as members of the militant Sunni Islamist group in the Raqqa province of Syria, investigating officials said.

Aarif Majid and Saleem Tanki, the two youths who spoke to their families, told them they were safe and that their entire family would go to 'jannat' or heaven because of the 'work' they were doing as part of ISIS, the officials said.

Aarif and Saleem said that the other two youths from Kalyan who had gone missing, Aman Tandel and Fahad Shaikh, were also with ISIS and safe. All four were living separately in two groups in the same province, they said.

Though Aarif's family denied such a call and Saleem's family was unavailable for comment, sources said both had shared details with the anti-terrorism squad and National Investigation Agency.

Sources said Aarif, who had been studying civil engineering at a Navi Mumbai college, spoke to his father Ejaz, who is a doctor. When the father asked him to return, Aarif said he would not but the family could come to Syria to meet him, sources add'

READ ALSO: Thane businessman radicalized Kalyan youth who joined ISIS, funded their Iraq trip

ISIS has designs on India, experts say

cms.outlookindia.comwww.google.co.in/webhp

The problem is not for ix or 8 Muslim boys who have joined but they are well educated and also became Radicals.

About Hundred Indian Muslim boys are fighting in Iraq and Syria.

WITH FIRE BREATHING CLERICS AND HIGHLY EDUCATED MUSLIM BOYS INDIA IS HEADING TOWARDS WAR OF CULTURES.

ATS AND MUMBAI POLICE A HAVE WOKEN UP .But they will be able to achieve nothing as Elections are approaching and due Vote Bank considerations the Govt will be forced to abandon the exercise to neutralize the various ISIS modules .

ashok kumar ghai
Mumbai, India
D-73/18
Jul 28, 2014
01:07 PM

Looks like drivel from congress whiners/apologists.

Two months is way too early to judge, seriously and sadly too early to celebrate for Congress synpathizers in Outlook editorial board. Hang on! In fact you have to hang on for five years at least.

Lastly, this guy at least talks, not like a mute poodle named MMS. 

Bangalorean
Bangalore, India
D-72/20
Jul 28, 2014
01:06 PM

In my previous post, "Accords are not implemented unilaterally?" should read "Accords are not implemented unilaterally, are they?"

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-71/19
Jul 28, 2014
01:03 PM

" Do you think Israel is implementing the Oslo Accords? "

Accords are not implemented unilaterally? It takes two to tango. Violence begets violence and the hawks silence the doves. 

The Palestinians can never uproot Israel. The PLO realised it after years of hostility and violence. The only way forward is to start with the Oslo accords.

Why do you allow your prejudices to cloud your judgement?

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-70/10
Jul 28, 2014
12:57 PM

" The fact that even educated and intelligent BJP-ites are not offended by Dinanath Batra's ultra-saffronization misadventures is truly amazing as well as sad."

1. Dinanath Batra is entitled to the same right to FoE as anyone else.

2. He is not insulting other faiths or beliefs.

3. The books published by him are not prescribed as text books by any government. They are just for "SUPPLEMENTARY" reading. They are NOT COMPULSORY and not intended to replace text books.

4. It is termed as "supplementary LIERATURE" not as science or history.

5. During my schooldays, I was taught Homer's Illiad and Oddyssey. Mythology in literature is nothing new.

6. Some excerpts do seem over the top but unless I read the whole book, I cannot comment.

7. Concepts like television and horseless chariots did exist just as Leonardo Da Vinci's concept of helicopters and Charles Babbage's conceptual computers several centuries before they became a reality. Technological limitations need not come in the way of man's ability to imagine.

Thomas Moore said:

"I see imagination as the most important power we have. As we imagine the world, so we live and understand. But a great deal of the imagination that shapes us lies under the surface. We need to tap that underlying storehouse of images in order to grasp who we are and where we are headed."

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-69/5
Jul 28, 2014
12:50 PM

"Though the then leaders of Opposition (LoPs) in the two Houses, Sushma Swaraj and Arun Jaitley, had recorded their dissent with reasons, the committee recommended the appointment of Joseph and Sinha without a word of explanation for setting aside the objections."

Speaker can record her statement : "One of the opposition parties came begging for LoP post. It was not granted that status as it was not fit for the post. The begging bowl is attached".

K.Suresh, Bangalore
D-68/18
Jul 28, 2014
12:38 PM


D.L.Narayan,

>> "once Arabs accept Israel's right to accede, abjure violence and implement the Oslo accords."

Do you think Israel is implementing the Oslo Accords? Why do you lie so much? And when will Israel recognise the state of Palestine?

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-67/17
Jul 28, 2014
12:32 PM


D.L.Narayan,

>> "Look who is talking. A sage whose world view is jaundiced by his faith!"

What a shameless smearer! Can you tell me which of my views differ from the views of Indian secular liberals, or British secular liberals or atheist secular liberals?  




 

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-66/17
Jul 28, 2014
12:29 PM

Nasar Ahmed - "Let us face the fact that in India Muslims have to pay a price to live and Hindus are dangerously and irrationally communal.There is a myth being spread by RSS that Hindus are peace loving and let the world be known they are one of the most violent religions in the world who have a leader worshipping firearms."

Me: "Are you really that ignorant? Are you unaware of what is happening in the world around you? "

Saroja - "One more example where the combatants are more perceptive about the other than the self."

Looks like our resident physicist, like Nasar Ahmed, is confused. They think that Hamas, ISIS, Boko Haram, Hezbollah, Syrian and Libyan rebels, Lashkar e Toiba, Lashkar e Jhangvi, Sipah Sahaba, Jamaat ud Dawa and Taliban are all front organisations of the Sangh parivar and that Hinduism is the predominant religion in the middle east.

Can't really blame this duo. One gets his info from a Wahabbi funded madrassah and the other's window to the world is websites like kafila, sabrang and cjponline.

Commiserations.

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-65/9
Jul 28, 2014
12:25 PM

Saroja,

>> " Now he wants to reform Hindi." 

The fact that even educated and intelligent BJP-ites are not offended by Dinanath Batra's ultra-saffronization misadventures is truly amazing as well as sad.




 

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-64/17
Jul 28, 2014
12:11 PM

So here is how I see the summary of what Congress Gandhi stooges like VM are saying:

Modi, you clean up the shit left by 60 years of congress rule. 

Would like to know more from VM why we are in this mess today? Oh forgot, an obsequious VM does question his Gandhi masters!

Bangalorean
Bangalore, India
D-63/16
Jul 28, 2014
11:52 AM

" What was given to them in the mandate was less than half of what they are occupying now."

It is clear that your jaundiced mind does not permit you to see all that I write. 

I clearly mentioned that the fledgling state of Israel was attacked by Arab forces. The Israelis drove them back and occupied over 60 % of the land allocated for Arabs. After the 1971 war, they grabbed the west bank from Jordanian control and Gaza from the Egyptians.

I also said that once Arabs accept Israel's right to accede, abjure violence and implement the Oslo accords, I will support the Arab cause and for the return of lands earmarked for the Arabs.

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-62/16
Jul 28, 2014
11:48 AM

Shekar 'Coupta' apparently forces Gaurav Sawant to delete unpalatable tweets by threatening to sack him. This is FOE for you!

https://twitter.com/Bawli_Booch/status/493414323759611904/photo/1

RSM, Delhi
D-61/12
Jul 28, 2014
11:46 AM

 I do not think that Sania has done anything wrong, as she knows how to deal with the medi and other hype creating anchors. She is proud to be Indian and if she is married to a Pakistani husband, then it should not keep her from enjoying her life back home. That is it. Some papers and blog may have made a big deal out of her statements. But the tennis star has clarified what she had meant then. Thanks 

Sharry Steve
Delhi, India
D-60/16
Jul 28, 2014
11:40 AM

" Last time when I had pasted a link to Jinns & Physics from an idiotic muslim, there was a claim here that Indians have done better.."

1. I said that in a state of superconsciousness arrived at by spiritual practices, the highest knowledge is achievable.

2. Yogis have done it, Sufi saints have done it as well as spiritual masters of all religions. It is NOT about one-up-manship.

Looks like lack of comprehension skills, lack of logic and lack of an open mind, inter alia, are not a barrier to acquiring advanced degrees in physics.

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-59/5
Jul 28, 2014
11:37 AM

This has Amit Shah written all over it to communalise the electorate before Maharashtra elections!

RSM, Delhi
D-58/15
Jul 28, 2014
11:31 AM

" By trying to legitimize this landgrab you are revealing your extreme prejudice. "

Look who is talking. A sage whose world view is jaundiced by his faith!

1. You live in USA. Are you aware that it is the culmination of the largest land grab in human history by Europeans?

2. You reside in the state of Texas, which originally belonged to native Mesoamerican tribes and was grabbed from them by the French, the Spanish, the Mexicans and the USA?

3. The faith that you ostensibly profess to started out in the Arabian desert, in a place that you say had no concept of state, and set into motion forces that culminated in the grabbing of a vast swathe of land extending from as far west as the Iberian peninsula all the way to the Indian subcontinent in a very short span of time?

History has never been your strong point. All through history, land has been grabbed and retained by force.

May I remind you that Palestine is just a small sliver of land. Did you ever shed tears, even crocodile tears for the Kurds, an overwhelmingly Sunni Muslim people who number nearly 40 million and whose territories, spread over a vast area of nearly 400,000 square kms and whose lands have been grabbed by Turkey, Iraq, Iran and Syria? Have you condemned the systematic genocide of the Kurdish people by the Turks and the Iraqis?

I guess it does not matter if Muslims grab the land of other Muslim people. 

Learn your history first before passing comments. It only betrays your ignorance and prejudice in addition to an inability to engage in civil debate.

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-57/22
Jul 28, 2014
11:30 AM

A 6 year old child is vulnerable. It cant physically defend itself. Its mind is innocent.

Raping a child is a rarest of rare crime and deserves the highest level of punishment.

This is not hyper reporting - raising society's voice is a must if such crimes have to be prevented in future.

Rajesh Chary
Mumbai, India
D-56/4
Jul 28, 2014
11:23 AM

One of the arguments that Congress toadies, having been putting out for an LoP is that without an LoP, several selection committees would be incomplete. This is a LIE because the CVC Act itself states that

Explanation.—For the purposes of this sub-section, “the Leader of the Opposition in the House of the People” shall, when no such Leader has been so recognised, include the Leader of the single largest group in opposition of the Government in the House of the People.

Even without LoP status, the Congress leader would be a member of the selection committee.

However, the same Congress toadies who are moaning about how lack of LoP will vitiatet the selection process should be aware of how their leaders ignored the views of the LoP in blatant violation of the SC judgement passed after the PJ Thomas fiasco in which the SC turned down his appointment on the very same grounds that Sushma had raised and Maun Moan and PC had rejected without explanation.

Two NHRC appointments in 2013 violated SC norms - ToI

The appointment of former Supreme Court judge Cyriac Joseph and former police chief SC Sinha as members of the National Human Rights Commission (NHRC) violated the transparency norm prescribed by the apex court in the P J Thomas case.

This is evident from the minutes that have come to light through RTI of a statutory selection committee's meetings chaired last year by the then Prime Minister, Manmohan Singh.

Though the then leaders of Opposition (LoPs) in the two Houses, Sushma Swaraj and Arun Jaitley, had recorded their dissent with reasons, the committee recommended the appointment of Joseph and Sinha without a word of explanation for setting aside the objections.

The committee's failure to address the contrarian views of Swaraj and Jaitley before clearing Joseph and Sinha for the NHRC posts breached the 2011 Supreme Court judgment which had forced Thomas to step down as chief of the Cental Vigilance Commission due to a similar omission.

Holding that the selections made to statutory bodies were subject to judicial review, the verdict in the Thomas case said that whenever there was no unanimity or consensus, "that Member should give reasons for the dissent and if the majority disagrees with the dissent, the majority shall give reasons for overruling the dissent."

For the two NHRC appointments made last year, the majority failed to give reasons on both occasions for the dissent expressed by not one but two members each time. When it chose Joseph on May 16, 2013 on the basis of majority vote, all that the committee recorded in its minutes was: "The leaders of the opposition from both the houses dissented. Their notes of dissent are appended." At the time of Sinha's selection two months earlier, the minutes simply said: "Two members of the selection committee expressed disagreement. Their notes of dissent are enclosed."

All such selections to statutory bodies subsequent to the Thomas verdict are, if challenged, liable to be quashed for not complying with the transparency benchmark set by the Supreme Court to "maintain the integrity of the decision-making process". ..

The disclosure of the minutes of the selection committee raises issues that go beyond the legality of the two NHRC appointments. It shows that, despite the embarrassment suffered in the Thomas case, the UPA government did not mend its ways. The dissent notes appended to the minutes also show that, when they were LoPs, Swaraj and Jaitley adopted positions that were as candid as they were principled.

So let's not hear this c**p of propriety from serial violators of the law.

Bonita, Chennai
D-55/3
Jul 28, 2014
11:12 AM

Over 1, 00, 000 Indians die in road accidents each year.. Twice or Thrice the number get maimed...

Some 15000 people in India die crossing railway tracks each year..

We do not get much time to pay attention to the above, because Media cannot spin fancy conspiracy theories or blame some group(BJP/RSS) for these deaths.

Ramki_Uncensored
Delhi, India
D-54/14
Jul 28, 2014
11:02 AM

Vinod Mehta >> However, Justice Katju, who is posing many questions, needs to answer a few himself. Why did he wait nine years before going public?

Mr VM, Shri Katju says he will be answering your question , the moment you explain us as to : How after a decade of hate mongering against NaMo, BJP, NDA and ilk, you have become soft and towards the evil hindoo party (aka BJP) especially after May 16 2014?

Care to answer Mr VM?

 
Ramki_Uncensored
Delhi, India
D-53/2
Jul 28, 2014
10:59 AM

DLN >> Instead of giving peace a chance, they are exacerbating the hostilities at the behest of its paymasters.

Their role model is the islamic theocracy of Saudi Arabia. West Asia will never be at peace so long as secularism is not enforced in the barbarian oil rich theocracies in the region.

 
Ramki_Uncensored
Delhi, India
D-52/12
Jul 28, 2014
10:58 AM

Israel should as an humanitarian gesture declare a seven days unilateral Cease fire so that non-combatants can celebrate EID .
If Hamas still fire rockets it will expose them .

Israel has nothing to loose rather it will be Diplomatic coup which will either pave the way for Peace or expose the Hamas .

ashok kumar ghai
Mumbai, India
D-51/3
Jul 28, 2014
10:45 AM

Dr Sahib

It was during your PMship UPA Rule that USA was snooping upon BJP with or without your knowlege and blessings.
If at all the bugging device was found out it surely was installed during your Rule.

Dr Sahib when you could not find or did never intended to find then what is the use of now saying a serious matter ??

When your Govt was supposed to act it did not act at all and chances are bugging was with your blessings.

I don't believe that any Agency with an iota of grey matter will ever bug the house of Gadhkari .What they intended to listen ??

DIDN'T PARNAB MUKHERJEE YOUR FM GOT HIS OFFICE DEBUGGED THRICE THROUGH TAX SNOOPING WING -NOT BY CBI OR  IB .
PRESS WAS SHOUTING HOARSE POINTING FINGERS ON YOUR HM.

ashok kumar ghai
Mumbai, India
D-50/8
Jul 28, 2014
10:19 AM

Congress is a doomed ship is a foregone conclusion, for, present bunch of Gandhis, including, PRIYANKA have no capability for revival of the same. Indira Gandhi resurrected because she had political acumen; Sonia Gandhi has neither the political acumen, nor wisdom/intelligence required for revival. She is only a scheming lady.Even in feudal system, the straps are required to be smart to rule.Congress is a bunch of sycophants gathered around Gandhis for they werre able to throw bread crumbs to them with the power.STARK REALITY IS, THOSE DAYS ARE NOT LIKELY TO RETURN.

P.H.Bhanage
Mumbai, India
D-49/15
Jul 28, 2014
10:14 AM

Media is back to secular cowardly reporting - 'riots took place between two communities' even though it is clear which are the communties, what was the issue and who was the aggressor! Soon media will start blaming Amit Shah! A Kerla Christian school headmaster and official were arrested because they served pork during Ramzaan even though Muslims has the choice of fish curry! What sick secularism is this? Are Muslim's going to decide what food is to be offered? And were are busy debating Shiv Sena and Sania Mirza.

RSM, Delhi
D-48/30
Jul 28, 2014
10:14 AM

The young teenager is just out of school. He got high grade in exams and selected to AIIMS and just completed 60 days as  medical student. And people here are unhappy because he fails to do complicated cardiac surgeries or does not treat cancer patients on his own.

For such people, the quack across the road who is expert in black magic last 60 years and treats all your illness by lies and deceit is the god. Please, go to him, get yourself cured. And yes if he asks for a child sacrifice , do that as well...

Ramki_Uncensored
Delhi, India
D-47/11
Jul 28, 2014
10:09 AM

CORRECTION - In below read the Jewish Bankers of Iraq as  Jewish bankers of NEW YORK

Ramki_Uncensored
Delhi, India
D-46/10
Jul 28, 2014
10:08 AM

Anwaar >> The assortmnet of India, Saudi Arabia and Egypt makes obvious sense.

Saudi Arabia which calls itself as holy land of Muslims has no problem selling crude oil at usurious rates to other nations and parks the riches in Wall street run by Jewish bankers of Iraq. They have no problem if the US Marines protecting their royals dine pork and liquor in their own holy soil.

The emperor has no clothes, India has no obligation to support anyone  but its self interest. Palestine may have a few million muslims suffering but India has 800 million Hindus, 150 + million muslims suffering. Saudi Arabia is not going to help us give cheaper oil or gas. We have to stand our feet and israel or any place does not matter.

As for palestine it is a problem created by others, esp EU and Anglo saxons and jehadists in West Asia and they must solve. We (Indians of all faiths) have no stake in it.

 
Ramki_Uncensored
Delhi, India
D-45/9
Jul 28, 2014
10:04 AM

SJS >> What about the voices of Gandhi, Nehru, and quite a few others?

You mean our beloved Gandhiji, father of nation who also wanted India to impose total prohibition? Ah well I am fine with it.. let us boycott israel and support palestine 100% and also impose prohibition. Start with Kerala, close all those toddy outlets and see a new generation of keralites who would work in their own secular beautiful state rather than sell themselves for a pittance to labour in ISIS infested Iraq or Boko Haram infested West Africa..

 
Ramki_Uncensored
Delhi, India
D-44/6
Jul 28, 2014
10:02 AM

Nice reporting, says everything other than the cause of the riots. Soon the narrative will change to Amit Shah being the cause.

RSM, Delhi
D-43/11
Jul 28, 2014
10:01 AM

VNK Murti >> How one will defend his case from 'Vaikund'?

But We expect Sarvakar , dead some 48 years back to still defend himself from malicious accusations of killing MK Gandhi. Same situation, different rules !

 
Ramki_Uncensored
Delhi, India
D-42/10
Jul 28, 2014
09:59 AM

As expected the disciple of DMK movement here comes in full defence of her gurus in this episode. Maybe she can follow up and show us a link on how The Tsunami was engineered by RSS-BJP to hurt the huge christian population among the TamilNadu fisherfolks who voted for DMK (UPA) in 2004 elections. Waiting for more such gyaan and gems from the lady disciple of Karunanidhi.

Ramki_Uncensored
Delhi, India
D-41/14
Jul 28, 2014
09:55 AM

Anwaar >> What rubbish! What was given to them in the mandate was less than half of what they are occupying now. By trying to legitimize this landgrab you are revealing your extreme prejudice.

The Mandate for Pakistan was to give autonomy to islamic majority regions of undivided India but the mandate was not to throw out the minority hindus. Hindus were 15% + in undivided Pakistan, but in today's Pakistan they are not even 2%. So why are you legitmatizing this and you are only expressing your prejudice by refusing to condemn this.

 
Ramki_Uncensored
Delhi, India
D-40/13
Jul 28, 2014
09:52 AM

SJS >> DLN, no my point was different, and not about how India has always welcomed an assortment of groups and refugees. Many of us are aware to varying degrees about these things and are justifiably proud of it.

We are welcoming of diversity because of our primarily Hindu faith and though you will disagree and call me names that is is the truth. Neither islamic pakistan nor buddhist sri lanka/myanmar have proven to be so welcoming despite being in same neighbourhood and the minorities in Mizoram arent really thriving either. Of course telling this simple truth does not mean I hate other faiths and it is far from it but it is another thing that most of your folks are sold into fictions such as AIT that spew hatred on one group of Indians.

 
Ramki_Uncensored
Delhi, India
D-39/21
Jul 28, 2014
09:48 AM

Misogynist >> Lets see if you will answer these. Or will you do a Maun Mute Singh?

1. Sexual assault crimes alone cannot be indicator of falling L&O Situation but they impact men the most.. every rape victim is having a dad, friend, sibling , or even a kid who is a male and is traumatised the most but neither your ilk nor feminist types understand it and they see everything in the prism of unending gender war. It does not help !

2. Very true, male death rate is much higher but one crime does not absolve another.

3 &6  - Media is doing all sorts of distorted hyperreporting - see how media hypes up the Gaza war victims but has not a word to say on Boko Haram or ISIS or the trauma of iraq christians/kashmir pandits or hindus of pakistan. But why you r silent on that?

4&5 - Rape laws must be converted into gender assault laws, made gender neutral .. any kind of assault on private parts of anybody - be it male or female or 3rd gender by anyone else is a crime. Are you okay with it?

Ramki_Uncensored
Delhi, India
D-38/15
Jul 28, 2014
09:41 AM

It all sounds like rubbish to me. If Indochina has retained so much Sanskrit in its language with no trace of Brahminism, I don't see what the objection is from The rest of the languages in India..

Parthasarathy Shakkottai
Long Beach, United States
D-37/14
Jul 28, 2014
09:21 AM

SANSKRIT SUPREMACISM - What is it?

A language that evolved or came to India 3500 years back, still there but not thrust on anyone, which only contributed to a dozen other languages but did not destroy any other language and whose so called original spokers (brahmins) are today speaking other languages (urdu, telugu, tamil , bengali, assamese etc)

URDU's PROGRESSIVISM - What is it?

A language that evolved or came to India just 800 years back , created a nation for itself (pakistan), launched a civil war because they dint like another language group (bengal/bangladesh) and which has eliminated half a dozen languages (baluchi, sindhi, panjabi, kashmiri, dogri etc) , not recommended by a particular faith (islam) in any way but yet learning it is recommended by Marxists as an act of secularism and progressiveness.

This is the reality. If there is one supremacist cult in India it is MARXIST SUPREMACIST CULT - IT says , either I am right or you are wrong.

Ramki_Uncensored
Delhi, India
D-36/13
Jul 28, 2014
09:17 AM

R Saroja >> We sickulars shall twist a style from a despair (For the brilliant sanghis- What follows is not an endorsement. Last time when I had pasted a link to Jinns & Physics from an idiotic muslim, there was a claim here that Indians have done better..

We are reminded of the high science of Lemurian Continent aka Kumari Kandam (the islent of Comarin) that has been preached by Highly evolved, rational Dravidan Movement whose disciple is saroja, except that this science has been proved to be roundly stupid and false. Fiction is the basis of Marxists of India and AIT is one but not only unscientific superstition that comes out of the stable of likes of Marxists like Saroja.

 
Ramki_Uncensored
Delhi, India
D-35/17
Jul 28, 2014
09:12 AM

The Mandate to BJP was not to oppose every nitty gritty thing that UPA did. The mandate was rather to :

* End the unending corruption of UPA raj

* End the misgovernance and lack of speed and execution of critical economic development projects.

On both grounds BJP is showing promising signs so nothing to complain so far..

We can always be unhappy about a few things, like I am not happy with BJP supporting the pro Hamas resolution in UN but as a party that is goverining for just 60 days, after 60 years of CON raj, it is too much to expect change so soon.

Give them 5-10 years to see some difference.

Ramki_Uncensored
Delhi, India
D-34/66
Jul 28, 2014
09:08 AM

 Anwaar >> If there are confusing passages in the Quran, it itself asks us to derive the best meaning from it. 

So care to explain:

* Does this freedom to derive best meaning apply only to one faith?

* Best in Whose perception? That of tolerant and progressive muslims like Indians who are backing development of India as priority over hating modi ? Or that of Boko Haram and ISIS supporters. ?

Ramki_Uncensored
Delhi, India
D-33/8
Jul 28, 2014
09:01 AM

O Ramki san,

Who teaches AIT? Please show me the extract from the current NCERT books or from those that RSS edited in the previous dark ages (1998-2004).

And which genetic evidence suports the sanghi favourite OIT theory? Or linguistic evidence?

About caste system, it has been sisowned by sickulars and eugenics is discredited elsewhere. Only in sanghi fantasy endorsers of caste BS are great nationalists -

There is something in caste, so far as it means blood; such a thing as heredity there is, certainly. Now try to [understand] — why do you not mix your blood with the Negroes, the American Indians? Nature will not allow you. Nature does not allow you to mix your blood with them. There is the unconscious working that saves the race. That was the Aryan's caste. Mind you, I do not say that they are not equal to us. They must have the same privileges and advantages, and everything; but we know that if certain races mix up, they become degraded. With all the strict caste of the Aryan and non-Aryan, that wall was thrown down to a certain extent, and hordes of these outlandish races came in with all their queer superstitions and manners and customs. Think of this: not decency enough to wear clothes, eating carrion, etc. But behind him came his fetish, his human sacrifice, his superstition, his diabolism. He kept it behind, [he remained] decent for a few years. After that he brought all [these] things out in front. And that was degrading to the whole race. And then the blood mixed; [intermarriages] took place with all sorts of unmixable races. The race fell down. But, in the long run it proved good. If you mix up with Negroes and American Indians, surely this civilisation will fall down. But hundreds and hundreds years after, out of this mixture will come a gigantic race once more, stronger than ever; but, for the time being, you have to suffer. The Hindus believe — that is a peculiar belief, I think; and I do not know, I have nothing to say to the contrary, I have not found anything to the contrary — they believe there was only one civilised race: the Aryan. Until he gives his blood, no other race can be civilised. No teaching will do. The Aryan gives his blood to a race, and then it becomes civilised. Teaching alone will not do. He would be an example in your country: would you give your blood to the Negro race? Then he would get higher culture.

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From the Vedic story of Satyakama Jabali to Mahadaji Shinde every page of our history shows that the ancient Ganges of our blood has come down from the altitudes of the sublime Vedic heights to the plains of our modern history fertilizing much, incorporating many a noble stream and purifying many a lost soul, increasing in volume and richness, defying the danger of being lost in bogs and sands and flows to-day refreshed and reinvigorated more than ever. All that the caste system has done is to regulate its noble bood on lines believed-and on the whole rightly believed-by our saintly and patriotic law-givers and kings to contribute most to fertilize and enrich all that was barren and poor, without famishing and debasing all that was flourishing and nobly endowed.

R. Saroja
Bombay, India
D-32/7
Jul 28, 2014
09:00 AM

 Anwaar >> Is this education or mal-education?

English came into present day England only in 1000 AD and in 1700 AD forced itself into ireland. It has decimated the previous Celtic tongues and became the only primary language spoken in 2 islands today in 2014 AD.

Urdu has decimated the native languages of Pakistan and J&K (be it Sindhi or Balouchi or Panjabi or Dogri or kashmiri) and yet celebrated as a language of civilization and people want it to be learnt along with hindi in India. This is even though There is ZERO REFERENCE OF URDU in koran and there is no instruction by Prophet to learn Urdu. (same Prophet says liquor is harmful and taking usurious interest on loans is prohibited but our marxists who spend their spare hours in bars and live off interest income wont want to have nothing on it).

Sanskrit originated or came around 1500 AD and has not impacted any of native languages of India and even the brahmins who are supposedly the speakers of this language have learnt other tongues and speaking dravidan languages.
 

Yet the Marxist historians of India are calling sanskrit as alien tongue and learning it has harmful to other indian languages.

This is the classic example of Mal Education.. Education with malafide intent (of promoting hatred against one social group). And this is the marxist education that india has followed last 60 + years...

Ramki_Uncensored
Delhi, India
D-31/6
Jul 28, 2014
08:38 AM

 R Saroja >> Clearly endorsing criminals screws up everything.

Criminals are those who say that :

* Caste system is unique to India/Hinduism even as evidence of same is found in europe of medevial era, in Japan (Ainus), in New Zealand (before white colonization) and in present day Islamic Sunni Yemen (Al Akhdam)

* Those who preach a fictious theory of AIT ,which creates an imaginary racial divide in India,even though AIT has been disproved by genetic studies and even though AIT is a criminal superstition that is pushed to make some Indians who are in India for 3000 years as foreigners..

* Those who want to ban Sanskrit , a language which is part of India for 3000 years , and not hurting 99.9% of Indians even t hough they have no problem in accepting Portugeuse and english as the default language of Brazil and USA (having been there for just 400 years)

What do we do about the criminals who endorse these hate mongering ideals?

 
Ramki_Uncensored
Delhi, India
D-30/2
Jul 28, 2014
08:34 AM

Headline news

HE SPEAKS

Bonita, Chennai
D-29/5
Jul 28, 2014
08:34 AM

 R Saroja >> Now the content from Sciece books-

Telling that Stem Cells were in Mahabaratha does not preach illwill or hatred but teaching AIT which preaches hatred, ill will against an entire section of Indian society is dangerous and now that AIT has been disproved as marxist fiction, when are we going to ban it along lines of Sati and Child sacrifice?

 
Ramki_Uncensored
Delhi, India
D-28/4
Jul 28, 2014
08:33 AM

More from the great soul, who found "India" a lowly shudra name, (because of its Persian origin?). Now he wants to reform Hindi timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/English-Urdu-words-in-NCERTs-Hindi-books-irk-RSSs-Batra/articleshow/39129656.cms

Sanghi nuts earlier used to be experts only in History. Now their expertise extends to Sciences and linguistics.

Clearly endorsing criminals screws up everything.

R. Saroja
Bombay, India
D-27/4
Jul 28, 2014
08:33 AM

Catch the author(s) and deport him/them to Gaza.

Bonita, Chennai
D-26/20
Jul 28, 2014
08:32 AM

Anwaar >> We have to keep speaking up for lawfulness even if we are whistling in the wind.

So why you are silent about the theocracy of Saudi Arabia which funds jehadi, inhuman nazist movements like ISIS and Boko Haram? care to explain ?

 
Ramki_Uncensored
Delhi, India
D-25/3
Jul 28, 2014
08:32 AM
Santosh Gairola, Hsinchu
D-24/16
Jul 28, 2014
08:31 AM

R Saroja >> One more example where the combatants are more perceptive about the other than the self.

You thus agree that "Hindus are Dangerously Irrational and Communal" and sound similar to your policial guru (DMK leader) who declared that "hindus are theives". No wonder your ilk were upset by Katju's declarations.  Birds of Same feather chirp alike.

 
Ramki_Uncensored
Delhi, India
D-23/3
Jul 28, 2014
08:27 AM

Sagacious input from an elder statesman - Anwaar (#1)

What exactly has Somnath Chatterjee said :

Should there be a LoP - YES.
Should the Congress get the post as a matter of right on the strength of its 44 MPs - NO.

Somnath has said the Speaker should choose the LoP, but he has said nothing about the Congress getting the post.

At the beginning of this tamasha I had said the Speaker should allow the opposition to elect its leader as no one is eligible. ill the Congress agree to such a democratic solution? I bet not. Notwithstanding all the pre-election hype about the Congress not announcing a PM candidate before the elections, but letting the CPP choose its leader etc etc, did that happen? Democracy and Congress culture are two incompatibles.

Bonita, Chennai
D-22/15
Jul 28, 2014
08:23 AM

Nasar Ahmed >> Let us face the fact that in India Muslims have to pay a price to live and Hindus are dangerously and irrationally communal.

By making such statements you are proving your communal and fascist intent to spread hatred. I am reporting your statement to OUTLOOK but have zero confidence in this HOUSE OF RAHEJAS, they are known to ignore Jehadi rants while people like me who question the intent of the promoters of this media house are censored at first opportunity.

 
Ramki_Uncensored
Delhi, India
D-21/14
Jul 28, 2014
08:21 AM

#12

One more example where the combatants are more perceptive about the other than the self.

R. Saroja
Bombay, India
D-20/1
Jul 28, 2014
08:17 AM

So who was listening to whom?  Who ordered somebody to go to Gadkari's house when his own government is in charge?  This whole thing does not make any sense. 

P.B. Joshipura, Suffolk, Virginia
D-19/2
Jul 28, 2014
08:15 AM

Who are those Morons,Anwar.

harun, chennai
D-18/16
Jul 28, 2014
08:09 AM

Question is not that of lack of toilet.  Question is how many people will continue to 'go' outside even after toilet facility is available.  Old habit is hard to change. 

P.B. Joshipura
Suffolk, Virginia, United States
D-17/29
Jul 28, 2014
06:50 AM
It easy to criticise Mr. Modi but I challenge the authors to accomplish what Mr. Modi has accomplish. It is to be back seat driver. How much personally these author know Mr. Modi? Do authors have any track record comparable what Mr. Modi have? If so, I will kiss their rear, otherwise they should of Mr. Modi.
Praful R Shah
Houston, USA
D-16/2
Jul 28, 2014
03:38 AM

Unsolicited homily from this old fool. Stick to the AG's considered opinion and the convention practised since the time of Pandit Nehru.

Fact, Factpur
D-15/12
Jul 28, 2014
03:07 AM


D.L.Narayan,

>> "Lands are won or lost in war all through history. Israelis, by winning their wars, legitimised the ownership of the land given to them under the UN mandate."

What rubbish! What was given to them in the mandate was less than half of what they are occupying now. By trying to legitimize this landgrab you are revealing your extreme prejudice. Your whole long post is platitudinous drivel! 

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-14/19
Jul 28, 2014
03:00 AM


Misogynist,

>> "In a lawless country like India, crimes of ALL KINDS are increasing".

We have to keep speaking up for lawfulness even if we are whistling in the wind.

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-13/2
Jul 28, 2014
02:37 AM

Na jaane kis gali mein zindagi ki shaam ho jaaye ...

ashok lal
mumbai, India
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