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D-67/5
Aug 28, 2014
02:21 PM

Congress did not spare even the dead body of Narsimha Rao

pankaj hedaoo, Kuala Lumpur
D-66/6
Aug 28, 2014
02:04 PM
If Gujarat is SOOOOOO bad in all parameters & sill the state populace is electing BJP/Modi time & time again with thumping majority. OL should do an "INVESTIGATIVE" piece on this phenomenon & publish the truth & facts instead of hype & fiction.
Abhijit Kane
Mumbai, India
D-65/5
Aug 28, 2014
02:00 PM

Ganwaar, who can outdo you when it comes to foul-mouthed language? Moron, look at your own posts before calling others foul-mouthed.

Ganwaar, Ganwaarpur
D-64/70
Aug 28, 2014
01:54 PM
This article is categorized as Section- National & SubSection - OPINION. Actually it should be categorized as Section - Creative, SubSection - Fiction, Fantasy.
Abhijit Kane
Mumbai, India
D-63/12
Aug 28, 2014
01:38 PM

Saroja mami,

[[Either that is true or the bhakts are spreading rumours to enhance the prestige of Modiji or .. did Modiji not get the "cut"???]]

Modi is no Teesta to ask for or receive his "cut". That honor solely belongs to those who use unfortunate victims' stories to create an industry and enrich themselves.

Ganwaar, Ganwaarpur
D-62/50
Aug 28, 2014
01:25 PM



Press Conderence Announcement

ANHAD is organizing a press conference tomorrow on August 28, 2014 at 12 noon at IWPC, 5, Windsor Place, New Delhi.

We are quite alarmed at the way the right wing is using ‘Love Jihad’ to polarize people and spread hatred between communities.

The term ‘Love Jihad’ is being used as a dangerous weapon. Messages on whatsApp and face book are flying and relating the phenomenon as an international conspiracy of the Muslims. Communal politics, communal violence all over uses women’s bodies as the site of contestation and community honour. Women’s sexuality is sought to be controlled as they are seen as the repository of culture, values, faith and honour.

Such campaigns against inter-religion, inter-caste marriages are not only against the spirit of a diverse and plural society they also aim to control women’s sexuality and polarise the society along communal lines for electoral and political purposes.

Anwaar, Dallas
D-61/3
Aug 28, 2014
01:14 PM

 Congi crooks and their media pimps and harlots run such mendacious stories and then blame BJP's iternal warfare for this. Once a harlot, always a harlot.

Ravi Patel
Vadodara, India
D-60/14
Aug 28, 2014
01:13 PM


DC,

Dr Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri, A Canadian-Pakistani scholar of Quran, summarises the Islamic position thus: "Islam seeks to establish such a society where all citizens of the state enjoy equal rights and religion does not become the basis for any discrimination. Islamic law holds both Muslims and non-Muslims equal and no superiority or privilege is given to the Muslims on any ground...... Islamic state is responsible for the protection and security of minorities."

Jinnah in his speech to Pakistan's Constituent Assembly in August 1947 clearly visualized a secular state with no distinctions based on religion. Eight years after his death, in 1956 Pakistan unfortunately became an Islamic Republic. While reversing that process would be extremely difficult, providing equal rights and protections to minorities is a requirement under the UN Charter of Human Rights and under Islam. But Pakistan is a failed state and loonies are running rampant.
 

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-59/49
Aug 28, 2014
01:08 PM

Saroja mami,

[[Can you give the figure for men during the same time?]]

Why do you want the figure for men? Isn't it enough when you have the figures for Hindu and Christian women converting to Islam versus the figures for Muslim women converting to either Hinduism or Christianity? What do you want to prove otherwise that you cannot prove/disprove with this set of figures?

Ganwaar, Ganwaarpur
D-58/2
Aug 28, 2014
01:05 PM
"So who is inside the Sanctum Sanctorum?".........ANWAAR
Politicians may come and politicians may go but there will always be someone who will reveal all that transpires within the Sanctum Sanctorum to the ladies on Outlook's editorial team (Naqvi, Gahilote and Ayyub)  
D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-57/48
Aug 28, 2014
12:57 PM

" The Power of Islam !!"

Absolutely.

Also proves that Islam does not discriminate between the sexes. Whether one's spouse is a male or a female, s/he must convert.

PS: All practices which discriminate against women are not Islamic. 

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-56/1
Aug 28, 2014
12:50 PM

December 9 is ok. Is it 2015 ? 2020 ? 2050 ?

K.Suresh, Bangalore
D-55/47
Aug 28, 2014
12:49 PM

"Why can't we abolish the plethora of individual religion based succession laws and replace them with this one as a precursor to a Uniform Civil Code?"

No UCC please, we are secular.

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-54/46
Aug 28, 2014
12:48 PM

@WIAN - "So when hindu women marry muslim men, they change their religion, and when hindu men marry muslim women, again it's hindus who change their religion?"

The Power of Islam !!

K.Suresh, Bangalore
D-53/69
Aug 28, 2014
12:45 PM

The corruption plank overwhich Congresss was outscored in LS polls, now haunts BJP rule through the latest judicial verdict.

C.Chandrasekaran
Madurai, India

Sir, you may be right and same time you may not be right reason is Modi campigned against Congress curroption but fact is people gave him mandate to keep Seculars in "Check"....

So whatever SC says it doesnt matter for atleast RW's  all they want is here after Seculars must be kept away from coming to power.

Jaykumar
Ahmedabad, India
D-52/45
Aug 28, 2014
12:45 PM

" That the aggressors almost entirely belonged to one ethnic class (Pakistanis) should be a cause for serious concern in that community about how the boys are "groomed" by the community."

In the Amanpour interview, Norfolk pointed out that these men did not target girls belonging to their own community. While they respected their own girls, they had no qualms predating on girls belonging to other religions.

He also said that as per their religion, if a girl attained puberty, she had reached the age of consent which was probably why girls as young as 11 were "groomed" and exploited.

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-51/44
Aug 28, 2014
12:28 PM

Saroja (#29),

Special marriages Act do not require nor acknowledge anyone's religion. I am just curious - which inheritance laws apply to offsprings of such marriages?

Indian Succession Act, 1925.

This law apply to INDIANs. Why can't we abolish the plethora of individual religion based succession laws and replace them with this one as a precursor to a Uniform Civil Code? The next step would be to deem all weddings irrespective of the form to be weddings conducted under the Special Marriage Act and to be compulsorily registerd as such.

Of course this makes me a Sanghi and communal and what not for suggesting something which is opposed by religous nuts of all persuasions.

Bonita, Chennai
D-50/2
Aug 28, 2014
12:25 PM

 
So how do these Adityanaths, Togadias, Swamys and Akbar Owaisis stay out of prison? Has inciting riots with hate speeches become de-criminalized?

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-49/1
Aug 28, 2014
12:21 PM

 

So who is inside the Sanctum Sanctorum?

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-48/43
Aug 28, 2014
12:09 PM

>> >> Very likely if the conversions were for the purpose of marriage, there will be cases of hindu men converting to Islam to marry muslim women.

So when hindu women marry muslim men, they change their religion, and when hindu men marry muslim women, again it's hindus who change their religion?

>> Can you give the figure for men during the same time?

The article contains the figures. Let's see if you have the honesty to present that data to other members of this forum, and show the comparison of Hindu men who changed their religion vs Hindu women, and compare them to their Muslim counterparts. Let's also see if you think the difference is explainable as natural, or suggests some pressure forces at work. A simple mathematical exercise. Should be simple enough for you.

Whats InAName
San Francisco, United States
D-47/42
Aug 28, 2014
12:04 PM

>> About UK case, what is scandalous is that the authorities ignored even when in some cases the parents complained and infact punished them instead.

The same is happening in India, all in the name of political correctness.

Whats InAName
San Francisco, United States
D-46/41
Aug 28, 2014
12:01 PM

>> So here is the first time a woman is accusing a man of Love Jihad.

She is accusing him of cheating, assault, battery, attempted forced conversion, etc. Relating it to the ongoing Love jihad story is a media/political action, which is legitimate.

>> Let the facts become clear.

Then stop closing your eyes to facts. The information you requested about the number of men who changed religion is in the same article.

Whats InAName
San Francisco, United States
D-45/11
Aug 28, 2014
11:56 AM

>> When did the Rambo story appear and when was it withdrawn? Withdrawn after generating laughter?

While I had mentioned that Modi should have been more proactive in issuing denials and clearing up the air, does it excuse TOI, or the shallow, perverted journalism? Moreover, was it Modi's fault, that a false story appeared in a major newspaper? And most importantly, is it correct on your part to suggest that Modi did not receive his cut, based on what we know?

>> By the way the TOI story of More Muslim in Police Force is not yet withdrawn though it contradicts data in National Crimes Bureau

Ask TOI.

Whats InAName
San Francisco, United States
D-44/68
Aug 28, 2014
11:55 AM

That the arteries of BJP are replete with RSS cells is nothing new. Vajpayee himself had to be content with showering advices for Ramrajya, when Babri Masjid  was demolished during KalyanSingh's rule. That Singh is rewarded with a gubernatorial boqueut reaffirms that the remote lies with RSS.So is the undisputed clout of persons who otherwise are mired in all sorts of controversies, be it AmitShah, or Yediyurappa.  The corruption plank overwhich Congresss was outscored in LS polls, now haunts BJP rule through the latest judicial verdict.With  Modi's slogan of Zero Defect and Zero Effect permeating into the political clouds, the onus of  his likely weeding out corrupt ministers, of course the numbers are more, has raised huge expectations amongst  crores of voters. How many heads are to be rolled? and how many bad apples are to be thrown away from the ministerial basket? It is a litmus test for the PM and surely  RSS, the back seat driver will guide him unfailingly !      

C.Chandrasekaran
Madurai, India
D-43/40
Aug 28, 2014
11:51 AM
Whats InAName
San Francisco, United States
D-42/7
Aug 28, 2014
11:45 AM

If SUPREME COURT  had not  stopped at the  very very last point of  the PRECIPE    and had taken one more threatened  step  , Modi would have shed a few crocodile tears, but not sent a SEARCH PARTY   to locate the irrecoverable but not indispensable  wreckage of no value to the nation.  Survival instinct saved itself, and  will ontinue to cry loud of its self inflicted  impotency , but distribution of CLEAN CHITS will go on uninterrupted. "     "Asatyameva Jayate "!!!

teekaypee, kerala
D-41/10
Aug 28, 2014
11:42 AM

>>And regarding that Rambo story, lot of sickulars made disparaging remarks against Modi (you might have done too). NOT ONE had the decency to apologize later, despite being called to do so.

Oh! You called for apologies!!! When did the Rambo story appear and when was it withdrawn? Withdrawn after generating laughter? By the way the TOI story of More Muslim in Police Force is not yet withdrawn though it contradicts data in National Crimes Bureau

R. Saroja
Bombay, India
D-40/39
Aug 28, 2014
11:37 AM

>> the scoundrels should have been roughed up, and probably thrown in jail (though I'm not certain if they actually committed a crime). While I hate to blame the victims, particularly young vulnerable kids, I thought it was a huge over-reaction on their part to take the extreme step. Their trauma was in no way comparable to the sufferings faced by the victims in Britain.

Street harassment is a crime and practically every woman suffers from it. I am 50+ and suffer from it in the otherwise woman friendly Mumbai. What is really sad s that the girls did not think it appropriate to share their trauma with anyone else or their parents and did away with themselves. 

About UK case, what is scandalous is that the authorities ignored even when in some cases the parents complained and infact punished them instead. That the aggressors almost entirely belonged to one ethnic class (Pakistanis) should be a cause for serious concern in that community about how the boys are "groomed" by the community. 

>>The victims are the least of your concern.

So here is the first time a woman is accusing a man of Love Jihad. He accepts that he beat her once etc. Whether it is a case of "Love Jihad" or the case of marriage failing in the early stages itself is the question. That this love Jihad was sponsored by foreign money is not even charged. 

Let the facts become clear. Once "dowry harassment" was criminalised, a lot of complaints were registered under that, though most should have come under domestic harassment but earlier, that was not an offense. 

R. Saroja
Bombay, India
D-39/38
Aug 28, 2014
11:19 AM

" Their trauma was in no way comparable to the sufferings faced by the victims in Britain."

Last night, on CNN, Christiane Amanpour interviewed Andrew Norfolk, the journalist who exposed the incidences of sexual abuse of white girls by men of Pakistani origin. It was absolutely shocking. Norfolk covered just one town and claimed it was taking place all over UK.

"Fear of being branded racist allowed 16 years of ‘appalling’ sexual abuse by Asian gangs of at least 1,400 children in one town, an inquiry found.

"Council officials and social workers ‘tiptoed’ around the fact that ‘by far the majority’ of the victims – who were as young as 11 – were white, according to the Rotherham Abuse Inquiry.

"Five men – Zafran Ramzan, 25, Razwan Razaq, 34, Umar Razaq, 28, Adil Hussain, 24, and Mohsin Khan, 25 – were jailed in 2010 for child sex offences but the inquiry found more attackers remain unidentified.

"Typically, the girls were picked up from school in cars and taxis, and groomed with gifts before being abused by groups of men."

metro.co.uk/2014/08/26/asian-gangs-had-1400-child-sex-victims-in-rotherham-4846850/

I suspect that something sinister is taking place on a global scale. I am sure that such incidents are happening in many other countries in Europe, Asia and Africa.

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-38/37
Aug 28, 2014
11:12 AM

>>You claim to be a physicist, and should be familiar with some statistics and probability. Tell me, by which model does this seem probable, unless there is some organized activity. Does it seem plausible that 2667 women converted to Islam while only 2 to Hinduism of their own free wish?

Can you give the figure for men during the same time? 

Very likely if the conversions were for the purpose of marriage, there will be cases of hindu men converting to Islam to marry muslim women. Sadly the acceptance of Special marriages act is very low but it is also extremely user unfriendly 

R. Saroja
Bombay, India
D-37/9
Aug 28, 2014
11:10 AM

>>  The "stupid journalist" you mention is another bhakt Tavleen Singh

What to do with stupid kids. Maybe some kids should be left behind.

She is not reporting claims like the TOI Rambo story, but is clearly saying , here I shall quote it exactly for you, so you may hopefully understand

The corridors of power are awash with rumours

Do you understand now?

There is absolutely no evidence that the son of a senior minister took money, or that the supposed minister was Rajnath, or that Modi ordered the money to be returned.

If there is, would you please present it.

Yet, the absence of any evidence (even a report in a paper), didn't prevent you from the stupid suggestion that Modi didn't get his cut.

And regarding that Rambo story, lot of sickulars made disparaging remarks against Modi (you might have done too). NOT ONE had the decency to apologize later, despite being called to do so.

Whats InAName
San Francisco, United States
D-36/36
Aug 28, 2014
10:56 AM

>> For the geniuses -

For the madams

>> 1. Susan Brownmiller's study was the first major one on rape. Bangladesh is sxtensively covered there.

I don't give a rat's ass.

>> 2. The black men- White woman rapes, allegations and lynchings are also discussed there.

See above.

>> 3. The acknowledgement of fear/hate campaign against black men does not invalidate or downplay rapes on white women by black men.

See above.

>> 4. "Love jihad" was supposed to be seduction of hindu women by muslim men to increase their numbers and that money was being pumped in to encourage such seductions. No evidences found in any enquiry.

And here I partially agree with you. I am loathe to talk in absolutes unless a clear cut case has been established. In this case, multiple enquiries (including alas, by a BJP govt), "have failed" to establish the original allegations.

That said, we need to be proactive to ensure that we don't sacrifice the life and freedom of little innocent victims on the altar of political correctness. Here is a report from the very sickular Kerala, given by the very sickular Oommen Chandy (a christian I presume), in response to a question by another very sickular MLA (from CPIM)

indiatoday.intoday.in/story/love-jihad-oommen-chandy-islam-kerala-muslim-marriage/1/215942.html

From the article

Among those converted to Islam during 2009-12, as many as 2667 were young women of which 2195 were Hindus and 492 were Christians. As against this number of young women converted during 2009-12 to Christianity and Hinduism were 79 and two respectively.

You claim to be a physicist, and should be familiar with some statistics and probability. Tell me, by which model does this seem probable, unless there is some organized activity. Does it seem plausible that 2667 women converted to Islam while only 2 to Hinduism of their own free wish?

5. To cite the case of a massive prostitution/pimping racket which existed almost in the open in UK as an evidence of "love Jihad"?

Ah your innocent protestations! They say a lot more about your stupidity than you realize.

The case is so much more than just a prostitution racket. There were gangs, almost exclusively from very specific ethnic background; there was widespread fear, and in many cases, an unwritten rule, against identifying the ethnic background for fear of being declared racist, so much so, that victims were allowed to suffer unspeakable horrors, to avoid disturbing social balance; there were community leaders resisting attempts to cleanse the system, and so on. All these things are something we observe every time the issue of love jihad is raised, from political parties, media, and of course liberals like you.

The victims are the least of your concern. Your fellow liberal wants to punish the girls for their stupidity. We are given tutorials on the meaning of jihad (who gives a f**k as to what it means). We shall go by what we see happening around us.

Couple of days back I posted a BBC story about Paki gangs targeting little Sikh girls. They pretended to be Sikhs, and used many of the same tactics alleged here. Just recently a case has come to light of a woman alleging that her husband pretended to be a Hindu, when he had actually converted, and was forcing and torturing her for the same. Doesn't it all seem very similar? Is it all a coincidence? What is the probability of that o physicist?

And lastly, it's weird of you to complain about posting of the links that I did. The similarities are too astounding to be overlooked. By contrast your story about two girls committing suicide, after being followed by some ruffians, while tragic, was less relevant. Sure, the scoundrels should have been roughed up, and probably thrown in jail (though I'm not certain if they actually committed a crime). While I hate to blame the victims, particularly young vulnerable kids, I thought it was a huge over-reaction on their part to take the extreme step. Their trauma was in no way comparable to the sufferings faced by the victims in Britain.

>> 6. Lastly, jews did not eat any christian babies and the church by and large discouraged such tales, but many did believe in that and it made atrocities against jews "justified".

So let little girls suffer.

Whats InAName
San Francisco, United States
D-35/3
Aug 28, 2014
10:49 AM

@RR - "What are required are confession boxes for babus to make a clean breast of their corrupt practices and misdeeds."

Until you find "Sorry I must confess I used all the previous notes in the box to blackmail the corrupt babus".

K.Suresh, Bangalore
D-34/67
Aug 28, 2014
10:43 AM

For those morons who have been plugging that illiterate Sreenivasan Jain's NDTV program "Truth vs Hype" to refute love jihad, here is a scholarly take down of these propagandists.

http://rupasubramanya.blogspot.in/2014/08/how-ndtvs-claims-about-love-jihad-dont.html


RSM
Delhi, India
D-33/8
Aug 28, 2014
10:37 AM

>>Or some stupid journalist is spreading rumors.

Don't you remember the Rambo story..

Yeah! Yeah! Also how Mahu Kishwar added to that. The "stupid journalist" you mention is another bhakt Tavleen Singh.

R. Saroja
Bombay, India
D-32/7
Aug 28, 2014
10:24 AM

>> Either that is true or the bhakts are spreading rumours to enhance the prestige of Modiji or .. did Modiji not get the "cut"???

Or some stupid journalist is spreading rumors.

Don't you remember the Rambo story, which later TOI apologized for (in the fine print though).

Whats InAName
San Francisco, United States
D-31/6
Aug 28, 2014
09:54 AM

A senior minister whose son allegedly took money for transfers and postings has been ordered to return the money  indianexpress.com/article/opinion/columns/defeat-and-delusions/2/

Either that is true or the bhakts are spreading rumours to enhance the prestige of Modiji or .. did Modiji not get the "cut"???

R. Saroja, Bombay
D-30/35
Aug 28, 2014
09:26 AM

For the geniuses -

1. Susan Brownmiller's study was the first major one on rape. Bangladesh is sxtensively covered there.

2. The black men- White woman rapes, allegations and lynchings are also discussed there.

3. The acknowledgement of fear/hate campaign against black men does not invalidate or downplay rapes on white women by black men.

4. "Love jihad" was supposed to be seduction of hindu women by muslim men to increase their numbers and that money was being pumped in to encourage such seductions. No evidences found in any enquiry.

5. To cite the case of a massive prostitution/pimping racket which existed almost in the open in UK as an evidence of "love Jihad"? 

6. Lastly, jews did not eat any christian babies and the church by and large discouraged such tales, but many did believe in that and it made atrocities against jews "justified".

7. More on "love Jihad", this time by dalits in Tamil Nadu - 

Repeatedly referring to the meeting held here as one of non-Dalit organisations, Dr. Ramadoss, whose support base is drawn from the Vanniyars, identified officially as a Most Backward Class, demanded amendments to prevent the misuse of the Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes (Prevention of Atrocities) Act, 1989, and accused Dalit youth of fomenting social tension by filing false complaints under the law and ensnaring girls from other castes with bogus professions of love.

“They wear jeans, T-shirts and fancy sunglasses to lure girls from other communities,” he told reporters. A resolution adopted at the meeting cited statistics of broken marriages to claim that inter-caste marriages ended in failure because they were unions born out of caste design and not love.

In the company of groups representing various intermediate castes and some Muslim organisations too, the PMK leader said all of them would hold demonstrations across the State on January 4 to press the demand for amending the Act to prevent its misuse against non-Dalits. www.thehindu.com/news/national/tamil-nadu/ramadoss-consolidates-intermediate-caste-groups-against-dalits/article4156999.ece

See also www.firstpost.com/india/dharmapuri-violence-why-tn-could-become-a-hotbed-for-love-jihad-543446.html

And some earlier fights against love jihad

R. Saroja
Bombay, India
D-29/34
Aug 28, 2014
09:00 AM

>> I wait for the day when our maulanas declare that mixed marriages do not require conversion.

Special marriages Act do not require nor acknowledge anyone's religion. I am just curious - which inheritance laws apply to offsprings of such marriages? Or such cases have never reached any court? Bonita?

R. Saroja
Bombay, India
D-28/33
Aug 28, 2014
08:55 AM

The fake claim by the Hindu right that there is a “Love Jihad”organisation which is forcing Hindu women to convert to Islam through false expressions of love is similar to a campaign inthe 1920s in north India against alleged “abductions”. Whether 1920 or 2009, Hindu patriarchal notions appear deeply entrenched in such campaigns: images of passive victimised Hindu women at the hands of inscrutable Muslims abound, and any possibility of women exercising their legitimate right to love and their right to choice is ignored. - Charu Gupta in epw in 2009

See also The myth of love jihad

R. Saroja
Bombay, India
D-27/32
Aug 28, 2014
08:51 AM

Disturbed by the open celebration of violent acts of rape and carnage by some communities in Gujarat in 2002, he began research. Besides the news reports of the attacks, there were CDs of witnesses to these incidents. “There seemed to be public approval of the sexual attacks of 2002,” said Kanwar. “Attacks that were justified, accepted or celebrated by some people. We have unfortunately learnt to live with violence but this kind of celebration was hard to understand or accept.”

Kanwar began putting together news reports from across the country relating to public humiliation and sexual attacks against women. He was shocked by the number of incidents and their spread across geographical and political boundaries.

The narrative is distributed across eight large screens and challenges the viewer with piecing together the various recounting of violence. This creates an immersive experience: the viewer is surrounded by voices, text and visuals and is confronted by a roundly told tale rather than one expedient story told to a passive audience.

Where some images scream their anguish at you, others are silent in reconciliation; some are poignant and poetic while others horribly disturbing. It is perhaps the silences that become most unsettling.  http://scroll.in/article/675264/Amar-Kanwar's-searing-testimonies-attempt-to-recover-submerged-narratives-of-sexual-violence-in-India

R. Saroja
Bombay, India
D-26/6
Aug 28, 2014
07:35 AM

Good debate .. in the Supreme court. Without any purpose. It is always good to talk about people who are not present and cannot respond.

Rajesh, Phoenix
D-25/1
Aug 28, 2014
06:50 AM

>>  he refused to confirm or deny it and said it was the media's responsibility to find out the autheticity of any video before showing it.

It has been a long time since Indian medid did some work by themselves .. all they know is he said that she said this .. they just need somebody to tell them what to tell.
pradeep
Chennai, India
D-24/22
Aug 28, 2014
05:11 AM

How about "An alternate discription of Gandhi" by Wendy Doniger?

Pramod
Tucson, United States
D-23/5
Aug 28, 2014
04:48 AM

Only Sonia and Rahul and their clan were right and had credibility. They even got away with genocide, massacre, riots and got Bharat Ratnas. And now Rahul goes to Europe every month. No questions asked.

gayatri, madrid
D-22/31
Aug 28, 2014
03:48 AM

>> You were born in the wrong country

You want him also to kill Hindus?

Whats InAName
San Francisco, United States
D-21/30
Aug 28, 2014
03:47 AM

>> but shameless individuals exist in both communities.

But why do they occur so much more among Muslims?

Whats InAName
San Francisco, United States
D-20/13
Aug 28, 2014
03:29 AM

Anwaar

Your suggestions are not practical.

When religion was the basis of creating a separate nation state, Pakistan cannot suddenly turn its back to religion. And once you declare yourself as an Islamic state , there is no way you can discard the doctrines of Islam.

As you have said in the past, it is not possible to revise the content of the scriptures. But these scriptures actually provide a lesser role to the minorities. Can you for example, delete the portions of the texts related to Kafirs? Since you cannot,  if a Muslim persecutes or tries to convert Kafirs, how is he un-Islamic in his approach?

Minorities will be persecuted in all Islamic states unless certain parts of the texts are either omitted ( is it possible?) or explained differently ( very difficult to convince ordinary folks that Jehad is a spiritual journey and not aggression over non-believers).

DC
NEW YORK, United States
D-19/29
Aug 28, 2014
02:59 AM

Akash Verma,

>> "Jihad is driven by hate-not love."

How come you are so ignorant? Jihad may mean either war against one's own inner baseness or it can mean war to protect one's faith against attackers. Neither meaning carries a connotation of hate. By the way I advise Muslims to discard this word because its use has been completely perverted.



 

Anwaar, Dallas
D-18/11
Aug 28, 2014
02:58 AM

For the bottomline is this: the BJP and RSS sit uneasy with any peace move towards Pakistan.... Saba

Terrorism and peace are opposite to each other. Pakistan army and their government has opposite targets towards India and hence it is useless to talk to them. After all, BJP does not have any compulsion like Congress, the minority vote bank. It is India's way, or the Highway, as one Pakistani columnist suggested.

george
london, United Kingdom
D-17/10
Aug 28, 2014
02:54 AM

''Vladimir Modi is setting new rules of engagement.''  Saba

'' Today, 18 May 2014, may well go down in history as the day when Britain finally left India. Narendra Modi's victory in the elections marks the end of a long era in which the structures of power did not differ greatly from those through which Britain ruled the subcontinent. India under the Congress party was in many ways a continuation of the British Raj by other means. The last of midnight's children are now a dwindling handful of almost 70-year-olds, but it is not the passing of the independence generation that makes the difference.

The India those men and women lived in was one that, like its predecessor, was centralised, garrisoned, culturally constricted, and ruled by a relatively small English-speaking elite whose attitude toward the masses was alternately benevolent and exploitative but never inclusive. Universal suffrage gave Indians a vote but not, at least for much of the time, a voice. When that voice was occasionally heard, as it was in 1977 in the elections that followed the disastrously unpopular Emergency declared by prime minister Indira Gandhi, there could be a sudden sense of its almost volcanic capacity to remake the political landscape, but such moments were rare.

Now that voice has been heard again. It has endorsed a new kind of leader in the shape of Mr Modi. He is from the lower castes. He is not a natural English speaker. He has no truck with the secular and socialist traditions that shaped Congress. But, more important, that voice has announced a new kind of India. In the old India the poor were there to be helped, when the elite remembered to do so or when they needed to seek or, in effect, to buy votes. The middling classes were taken for granted and sometimes snubbed. The new India, most observers agree, is not interested in handouts, and refuses to be snubbed. ''

GUARDIAN EDITORIAL 18th May, 2014

george
london, United Kingdom
D-16/28
Aug 28, 2014
02:47 AM


Akash Verma,

>> "I personally know quite a few cases where hindu girls were converted to Islam-after making the initial promise that the girl need not convert."

Such husbands should be ashamed of themselves, but shameless individuals exist in both communities. I wait for the day when our maulanas declare that mixed marriages do not require conversion. Asking a wife to convert shows neither respect nor love for her.

Anwaar, Dallas
D-15/27
Aug 28, 2014
02:39 AM

Suresh,

>> Anwaar might say - "Those who indulge in Love-Jihad are not real muslims".

Anwaar says that Love Jihad is the malicious invention of RSS/VHP promoters of hate.

Anwaar, Dallas
D-14/12
Aug 28, 2014
02:35 AM

Can we exchange Kashmiris for the minorities in Pak? Seems like a good trade for everyone. AKASH VERMA CHENNAI, INDIA

Akash, can we add Anwaar in that list, please?

 
george
london, United Kingdom
D-13/11
Aug 28, 2014
02:33 AM

A shocking story in today's Daily Mail

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2735194 

george
london, United Kingdom
D-12/4
Aug 28, 2014
02:31 AM


Akash Verma,

>>>> "Why do you concoct such mlicious stories? Is lying a requirement of all hate pracharaks"

>> "Jehadis like you are braind-dead."

Typical response from a communalist foul-mouth!

Anwaar, Dallas
D-11/21
Aug 28, 2014
02:28 AM


Akash Verma,

>>>> "You are a shameless liar"

>> "I did not expect anything else from you."

That's one more lie!

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-10/26
Aug 28, 2014
02:25 AM

Akash Verma,

>> "I have a become a fan of Yogi Adityanath. His call to convert 100 muslim girls for every hindu girl was classic."

Both Adityanath and you exhibit Pakistani traits! You were born in the wrong country.

Anwaar, Dallas
D-9/1
Aug 28, 2014
02:09 AM


Bizarre story but it is not Love Jihad!

Anwaar, Dallas
D-8/4
Aug 28, 2014
02:03 AM


> "Shah said the integrity of all ministers is beyond doubt."

A certificate of integrity from Amit Shah? That's a joke!

Anwaar, Dallas
D-7/1
Aug 28, 2014
02:00 AM

loved him:)

Sachin Kumar, Shamli
D-6/10
Aug 28, 2014
01:43 AM

Nothing is going to happen to Pakistan when Hindus, Sikhs, Ahmedi and Shia population is destroyed.  Only hope is when Christian population is widely affected, some possibility that the Christian world may do something. Hope Iran do something for Shia.  So far, though nothing.

P.B. Joshipura
Suffolk, Virginia, United States
D-5/9
Aug 28, 2014
01:33 AM

Note this story is carried only in web section.

The genocide of Hindus and Sikhs in Pakistan is complete. There is nnothing left to save or salvage. From 22% of population in 1947 to 1% now.  The Congress government of India, was directly complicit in that genocide by keeping quiet and looking the other way as muslims in Pakistan annhilated the Hindus and Sikhs.

SaachBolo
SaachGarh, India
D-4/1
Aug 28, 2014
01:22 AM

Ms.Tavleen Singh told this in the Indian Express last Sunday. She did not name one, but she said the son was scorned by the PM. If this is true, it is good sign.

george, london
D-3/8
Aug 28, 2014
01:21 AM

And then some Indian muslim commentrators like Javed Naqvi, Mr.Noorani, Saba Naqvi, and Aijaj Syed from Dubai, gives their sermons to Hindus every week how the minorities should be treated. They are also more worried why Kashmiris are not getting their independence.

george
london, United Kingdom
D-2/3
Aug 28, 2014
01:14 AM

BJP must arrest the down slide at this level, otherwise they will look like congress in a very short time.

george, london
D-1/2
Aug 28, 2014
12:40 AM

How about this idea:

Put up 'idea boxes',(  to create the illusion that this government is genuinely interested in the ideas of its people),  but carry on its ingenious ways of looting the people anyways?

[ SAY NO TO INFOOTER DISPLAY AND POP UP ADS ].

Misogynist, Chennai