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D-69/73
Sep 01, 2014
04:41 PM

WIAN,

You are a hate-crazed liar! And the one who so readily chimes in with you is beneath contempt. Both of you should be ashamed of yourselves. - Anwaar (#60)

For all your posturing. you have a long way to go. You are still worthy of contempt, whereas in the eyes of the Sage of Dallas, the one who knows all and whoce word cannot be questioned I am now approaching the transcendental stage. Who knows, if you work hard enough, you may reach my level.

Anwaar's problem is basically since his only argument is personal abuse, he does not know how to deal with anyone who does not respond in kind. When faced with logical arguments he digress, he obfuscates he brings in inapt similes but he will never answer a straight question. Having locked himself into a position where he is committed to defending the indefensible without assistance he has no idea which way to turn. He will use one argument today and something quite different tomorrow. Unfortunately for him there are enouh people to catch him in his evasions.

I hope you are suitably ashamed having been castigated by the Oracle. I'm not. I'm enjoying myself.

Bonita
Chennai, India
D-68/72
Sep 01, 2014
04:40 PM

Saba Naqvi >>> As it is, Muslim personal laws diminish women’s rights. If a girl from another community is to enter a Muslim home, a genuine effort should be made to have a more enlightened approach. In the small towns of UP, the community should organise, reflect and come up with a rational strategy. Clerics too must show that they can speak for something beyond defending regressive personal laws and feeding off the fears of a community.

Despite the frivolities and trivialities of making a lot of unnecessary fuss over "loony" talks of "Gau Mutra", circumsized penises of Muslims giving "greater Anand to Hindu Kanyas" or Gabbar Singh applauding over "They take one Hindu woman, we’ll take a hundred" crap, one would find Saba Naqvi's perspicacity welcoming in when she admits as quoted above.

But one would have to rather poignantly point out that that's where the REAL problem lies, especially in matters of Hindu-Musilm nuptials. Leave aside Saba's examples of her own family, Nargis-Sunil Dutta, Hrithik-Sussanne, Sharmila-Nawab of Pataudi "marrying and producing children with partners outside the barricades of religion", the FACT remains that in almost other 99% such cases the traffic is just one way.

Mughals and a lot of Muslim rulers took Hindu wives but their off-springs could not remain a Hindu. Why go that far. Look at Jinnah, Iqbal or even Bhutto. They all had Hindu mothers. Come down to middle class commoners and peasants where the Mullah rules. Saba suggests that "Muslim community: clerics, prominent citizens and elders of the community should advocate a court marriage in the case of mixed couples."

But, this is dubitable. It will never work at the ground level. A Hindu girl when she marries a Muslim she immediately becomes an outcaste. There is no other option left for her but to accept Islam.

The Contrarian
London, United Kingdom
D-67/1
Sep 01, 2014
04:39 PM

(1) Several questions arise in the context of current political situation in Pakistan and perhaps neither the Pakistani Army nor any particular political party has the right answers. (2) My queries: Is the Pakistani Army is exploring possibilities of a political solution? Is there any remote chance of the Pakistani army extending support to Imran Khan to seize power? In other words, would the Pakistani army use Imran Khan to grab power in a camouflaged manner? (3) Is it not ironic that when on the one hand when Pakistan’s internal problems are so many, as the current turmoil just indicates, on the other hand, instead of devoting his time to deal with them, the Prime Minister of Pakistan thought it appropriate to refer to the Kashmir issue as an issue which creates tension between two countries? (4) When this is the scenario, which foreign power can provide assistance to Pakistan to get out of the mess that the country finds itself in?
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Narendra M Apte, PUNE
D-66/71
Sep 01, 2014
04:17 PM

Some tidbits on author Saba:

>>  First, a confession: I am from a family that is apparently spawned from and breeds “jehadis”. This misguided family (full of uncles, aunts, cousins and sisters who married and produced children with partners outside the barricades of religion) thought they were making love, not war.

Absolutely true! But another interesting fact is even though her family makes love with all "other religionists", the love for Muslim cause is NOT lost on her, true Islamic style. After all, Islam is first amongst equals. SO her heart keeps on bleeding for Muslims in UP and she covers them extensively:

The POOR Saharanpur Muslims and majority project:

http://www.outlookindia.com/article/Numerocracy/291679

Too bad Muslims are fighting amongst themselves. Her heart is bleeding for fellow religionsists:

http://www.outlookindia.com/article/Its-Muslim-Vs-Muslim-Out-Here/290315
 

Not only that, she is apparently onto Jihadist project to whitewash history too, along with great Mani Shankar Iyer!!

http://www.outlookindia.com/photos/people/SabaNaqvi/3900/64740

Have a look at more hypocrisy of this Jihadist Saba who loves Hindus with her family!

http://www.outlookindia.com/people/3/SabaNaqvi/3900

Hypocrisy, lies, deception, whitewash, true Muslim style masquerading as seculars!

Bangalorean
Bangalore, India
D-65/8
Sep 01, 2014
03:49 PM

16 May 2014 Sickularism was cremated according to Hindu rituals.

K.Suresh
Bangalore, India
D-64/5
Sep 01, 2014
03:12 PM
Sickularists ( Islamist ) Media is at height of its painful desperation form 16th May 2014 when their sickular and corrupt god mothers & many fathers get decimated in deep dusts across India.
Rajesh Goel
Hisar, India
D-63/6
Sep 01, 2014
03:08 PM

" Is Modi travelling abroad as a Prime Minister of the Hindus?"

How communal and unsecular. The Prime Minister should have also included the Bible and the Quran too.

Come to think of it, giving the Quran, with all its "battlefield verses" might give PM Abe a wrong impression of the religion of peace.

Anwaar should send to the PM works by Tariq Ramadan, Gamal Al Banna, Mahmoid Taha and Tahir-ul-Quadri's 600 page fatwa on terrorism. I am sure that the PM will be happy to gift them on his future tours.

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-62/70
Sep 01, 2014
02:57 PM

>>  " That is just your claim. Muslim/British rule may have hastened reforms."

Muslim rule may have hastened the reforms? 

Is that a sick joke? Muslims and reforms in society? 

Oh yeah! Instead of letting the widow burn on pyre, the lusty Muslim men will have kidnap her, have forced sex with her and induct her in into the harem to breed more believers!! What a reform! Everything is fair when it comes to increase the number of believers, true Isalmic style from the beginning when Jew's women were kidnapped and raped after killing their men in war by Muslim armies.

Of course in Anwaar's world where the problem of sati was thousands times more pronounced than abduction and rape by Muslims in middle ages!




 

Bangalorean
Bangalore, India
D-61/1
Sep 01, 2014
02:55 PM

From "Made in Japan" to "Modi in Japan" !

K.Suresh, Bangalore
D-60/69
Sep 01, 2014
02:37 PM

" That is just your claim. Muslim/British rule may have hastened reforms."

Why do insisting on commenting without knowing anything beyond your prejudiced notions. I claim nothing. I just put forward facts which you shun with the intensity of a hydrophobic running away from water.

The Buddha was a reformer who tried to make spiritual knowledge accessible to the masses by preaching in Prakrit instead of Sanskrit and rejected the caste system. His teachings however conformed to Hinduism to a great extent. This was over a thousand years before Islam.

Within mainstream Hinduism, the Vedic age was followed by the Nyaya, Vaishesika, Sankhya, Yoga, Purva Mimamsa and Uttara Meemamsa schools of thought. 

Then came Adi Sankara who wrote bhashyas or commentaries to weed out false interpretations of the Vedas. He also stressed the importance of learning over liturgy.

After Sankara came Ramanuja with his Vishishtadvaita and Madhva with his Dwaita philosophy.

To say that Hinduism reformed due to Islamic/British rule is patently false. Islam always looked down on Hinduism and it was always seeking to convert.

The same was true of the British initially (like Macaulay) but enlightened men like Charles Wilkins, Woodroffe, James Prinsep, Warren Hastings and several others took the trouble to study Sanskrit and the scriptures and discovered the greatness of a much maligned religion which led to the renaissance of Hinduism in the late 18th and 19th centuries.

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-59/9
Sep 01, 2014
02:06 PM

Injustice and Inequality are a fact of nature and so can never be wished away or eliminated. 

They can definitely be fought and reduced. Though usually, the phenomenon reappears in new forms.

All fights against injustice and inequality are an uphill task.

The ground has to be won through hard battle-inch by inch and so will it be here.

Perseverence and persistence on part of activists is the only way.

We have come so far that a law-however imperfect, is in place.

We have people who are getting more aware and demanding.

Persevere...

Atul Chandra
mUMBAI, INDIA
D-58/68
Sep 01, 2014
01:48 PM

Why is that wherever there is a muslim population that such controversies pop up? Why is there no love-Jihad talk between Hindus and Jains for example? Why do all politicians try to be politically correct with facts/trends with Muslim population? Why is the onus always on majority community to maintain "harmony" and "cohesion" with Muslim population? Gandhi/Nehru fell into this trap, millions lost lives during partition and we still see no cohesion anywhere. From Bengal to UP to even Kerala's Muslim districts.

THis is not a problem confined to even India. Look at what happened in UK to maintain cohesion, unity and not to offend muslims and not to sound racist:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/rotherham-child-sex-abuse-scandal-labour-

home-office-to-be-probed-over-what-tony-blairs-government-knew--and-when-9701861.html

Excerpts:

>>  Meanwhile, a former minister claimed he was threatened with the sack by his then boss, the foreign secretary Jack Straw, for calling on Muslims in the UK to choose between the "British way or the way of the terrorists" after a 24-year-old from South Yorkshire tried to bomb Israelis in a bar in Tel Aviv in 2003. Former Foreign Office minister Denis MacShane said he was forced to agree to a "grovelling climb-down" over his remarks because he was warned it risked upsetting community relations

>> While there is no suggestion that Mr Blunkett or his close advisers knew about the 2002 Rotherham report, sources said the Government was obsessed with keeping the Muslim community onside – even if it meant sidestepping serious criminality and extremism. SOUNDS FAMILIAR?

>> Mr MacShane planned to say it was "time for the elected and community leaders of British Muslims to make a choice: the British way, based on political dialogue and non-violent protests, or the way of the terrorists against which the whole democratic world is uniting". However, there was uproar from sections of the Muslim community led by councillor Jahangir Akhtar in Rotherham, who labelled Mr MacShane's comments "absolutely disgraceful".

ABSOLUTELY DISGRACEFUL? I have heard that or simiar somewhere on this forum. And below is the reality of this Mr Akhtar:

>> Last year, Mr Akhtar resigned as deputy leader of the council after The Times reported that he had been involved in a extraordinary "deal" to recover a missing pregnant 14-year-old who had been with a distant relative of his. A subsequent police investigation cleared Mr Akhtar of wrongdoing. Until recently he was Labour's local campaign manager.

Bangalorean
Bangalore, India
D-57/67
Sep 01, 2014
01:27 PM

It is a fact that so called believers of Islam dream to use every possible mean (including love jihad sort of deception) to increase their numbers.

As much as likes of the author, the many muslim men do harbor disgusting mentality about Hindus and especially Hindu women and I am not talking about just uneducated ones. In the early days of internet when Yahoo profile was equivalent of FB, I still remember, I stumbled upon profile of a (Indian) muslim boy. His mentioned hobby was to have sex with Hindu women and the profile pic had a pic of girl and a boy indulging in oral sex and the title was "Me having sex with a HINDU girl." Now this is not uncommon.

As a student in US, I saw many Paki boys drooling over Indian girls for fun and enticing. More recently, see the shame of Paki men in UK. 

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/smirking-rotherham-sex-abuse-gangs-4132092

Victims were let off for fear of sounding racist. Sounds familiar? Are we not attacking the problem just to sound politically correct. After living in a prosperous country which gave them education and wealth, they could not resist their fantasy of targeting non-muslim women.

I personally know Hindu lady who fell into love with a Muslim man, both were decently educated and lady was used to lot of freedom earlier. Today, she is converted and her husband has almost stalled her going out house alone. She is alone and devasted and repents the decision but is carrying on as there is no other option for her.

Yes, love/marriage is a personal choice but the state has a responsilbility to protect people from targeted deception into marriage.

Bangalorean
Bangalore, India
D-56/66
Sep 01, 2014
01:06 PM


D.L.Narayan,

>> "During the Islamic era, Hinduism was under seige and it lost its open self-critical nature and orthodoxy took a stranglehold which made reform difficult."

That is just your claim. Muslim/British rule may have hastened reforms.

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-55/5
Sep 01, 2014
01:04 PM

Ganwaar,

[[Is Modi travelling abroad as a Prime Minister of the Hindus?]]

Trust a Muslim to bring in religion into even a simple gesture!!

Ganwaar, Ganwaarpur
D-54/65
Sep 01, 2014
01:01 PM

D.L.Narayan, 

Thanks for your elaboration on my comment in which I had said: "Sanghis in this forum as well as elsewhere have tried to put blame on Muslims for sati (widows were burned to protect them from supposed Muslim kidnappers!) and for untouchability ("why did not the Mughal kings do something about it?")!"

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-53/3
Sep 01, 2014
12:59 PM

Function Hall where Azagiris sons wedding took place 2 years back Muka donated/dedicated that function Hall only for Minority functions!!

Secular Muka!!!

Jaykumar, Ahmedabad
D-52/2
Sep 01, 2014
12:47 PM

Karuna is a fox.  Few years back he attended Iftar party and told muslims that while he appreciated their fasting he ate more on Hindus' fasting day. He closed his eyes to whatever was happening and came to his senses only after Coimbatore blasts. His accomplices in 2G scam are in Dubai only.

Prem Krishnan, Singapore
D-51/64
Sep 01, 2014
12:46 PM

" Sanghis in this forum as well as elsewhere have tried to put blame on Muslims for sati (widows were burned to protect them from supposed Muslim kidnappers!) and for untouchability ("why did not the Mughal kings do something about it?")!"

1. The practice of mass suicide by women (not just widows) to avoid falling into the hands of Muslim invaders is called JAUHAR and NOT SATI. Sati predates the Islamic era.

Sati was restricted to the aristocracy. It was quite rare. As per British records, it was about 500 per year in a population of 300 million and a death rate of over 20/1000 per annum.

2. The inequitous caste system and untouchability also are from the pre-Islamic era.

During the Islamic era, Hinduism was under seige and it lost its open self-critical nature and orthodoxy took a stranglehold which made reform difficult. 

It was as a result of the impact of Islam on India and individual rulers cannot be blamed because much larger historical forces were at play.

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-50/12
Sep 01, 2014
12:46 PM

 
BJP has a Hindutva plan for UP

The BJP in UP is preparing to serve a potion of Hindutva in the upcoming byelections, with firebrand Hindu leader and BJP MP Yogi Adityanath and the issue of “love jihad” as the main ingredients.

Party sources said that the Hindu hardliners in the BJP are now compiling details about incidents of “love jihad” in the past two years and will release it in a booklet form in the byelections. Incidents of “Muslim atrocities” on Hindus will also figure in the booklet. “The idea is to awaken the people about the threat to our cultural, social and religious ethos,” said a source. This despite denials of pursuing aggressive Hindutva from the party high command.

Mahant Adityanath, who has been named a star campaigner for the byelections, is known to be one of the biggest Hindu hardliners in the party and is currently in the midst of a controversy over a videoclip in which he is shown saying that for every one Hindu girl converted to Islam, he would convert 100 Muslims girls to Hinduism.

www.asianage.com/india/bjp-has-hindutva-plan-669

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-49/63
Sep 01, 2014
12:33 PM

>> You are a hate-crazed liar!

I agree with the hate-crazed, but liar? Where exactly have I lied?

>> And the one who so readily chimes in with you is beneath contempt.

All good and smart people are beneath contempt for you. You only like those who gather around Jama Masjid, and raise slogans in support of Shahi Imam, or cheer at Owaisi's rallies, etc.

>> Both of you should be ashamed of yourselves.

Speaking for myself, I'm quite enjoying myself. The fact that you are unable to deny anything, are feeling the hurt in your ass, where I planted a juicy one, and are left frothing at the mouth with impotent rage pleases me.

Whats InAName
San Francisco, United States
D-48/8
Sep 01, 2014
12:23 PM

"Uttar Pradesh - Government Order states that private schools can be approached by EWS students only after seats in government and government-aided schools have been filled up "

How can the UP government, supposedly catering to the interest of backward class, deny education to the downtrodden?

Rajesh
Phoenix, United States
D-47/62
Sep 01, 2014
12:13 PM


D.L.Narayan,

>>>> "Do you want to see a list of Jewish traditions that have crept into Islam? "

>> "I can give you a few"

Thanks! You could have added prohibition of inter-religious marriages.

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-46/61
Sep 01, 2014
12:09 PM

RSM,

>> "Omar marrying a Hindu was not a problem in the family but his sister marrying Sachin saw strong family disapproval."

I do not approve of such attitudes, but then double standards exist among Muslims as much as they exist among Hindus.

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-45/8
Sep 01, 2014
12:06 PM

Japan is very good country with good people this kind of image was created by non other than but by Bollywoods by shooting movies in mid 70's. Instead of exposing Japs cruelty our Bollywood painted good picture about them and fooled movie lovers fans.

Jaykumar
Ahmedabad, India
D-44/60
Sep 01, 2014
12:05 PM


>> "This is funny coming from a jehadi scum who was howling like a pig about Modi's wife."

You are a hate-crazed liar! And the one who so readily chimes in with you is beneath contempt. Both of you should be ashamed of yourselves.

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-43/59
Sep 01, 2014
12:02 PM


D.L.Narayan,

>>>> "Nobody but Hindutvawadis, who would readily blame Muslims for all the evils of Hinduism!"

>> "Don't make wild allegations. Substantiate them."

Sanghis in this forum as well as elsewhere have tried to put blame on Muslims for sati (widows were burned to protect them from supposed Muslim kidnappers!) and for untouchability ("why did not the Mughal kings do something about it?")!

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-42/7
Sep 01, 2014
12:01 PM

We come across news that two different countires coming togather and holding BiLeteral talks not never come across any news that China-Japan holding such talks..Who's side fault lies?

Jaykumar
Ahmedabad, India
D-41/58
Sep 01, 2014
11:56 AM

Saachbolo,

>> "This same Jinnah who married a zorastarian and converted her to Islam."

You would have a point only if she was converted by force. Otherwise it was their private affair.

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-40/1
Sep 01, 2014
11:50 AM


Savages!
 

Anwaar, Dallas
D-39/57
Sep 01, 2014
10:59 AM

>>Now how did he behave when his daughter married a Zorastrian ? Lets ask wikipedia.

Saachbolo makes a very important point. It is the same attitude with another prominent Muslim family - the Abdullahs the darling of the seculars. Omar marrying a Hindu was not a problem in the family but his sister marrying Sachin saw strong family disapproval. Now the jihadis will refute such mindset by telling us that educated Muslims of Bay Area do not practice such hypocrisy!

RSM
Delhi, India
D-38/7
Sep 01, 2014
10:54 AM

URA had realised his own mediocrity in the field of literature. The only way to remain relevant in public domain was by way of indulging in politics and being in the thick of controversies. He has more awards and rewards than his literary works justify, thanks to the select group of 'like-minded' sickos with whom he could indulge in mutual back-scratching.

K.Suresh
Bangalore, India
D-37/6
Sep 01, 2014
10:49 AM

@SSNagaraj - "He never left a will to his family not to perform Brahminical rituals at his cremation,which was performed for hours on."

On the contrary, he expressed to his son the desire to have the last rites performed the traditional way. He was a hyppocrate to the core.

K.Suresh
Bangalore, India
D-36/56
Sep 01, 2014
10:43 AM

WIAN (#52),

This is funny coming from a jehadi scum who was howling like a pig about Modi's wife.

A nice elegant turn of phrase to describe Anwaar's comment. Of course this will now provide him moral justification (not that he needs any) for a month's worth of expletives directed at all those who disagree with him. Anwaar is a bleating, or should it be squealing, hypocrite.

Bonita
Chennai, India
D-35/55
Sep 01, 2014
10:04 AM

" Do you want to see a list of Jewish traditions that have crept into Islam? "

I can give you a few:

1. Skull caps

2. Circumcision

3. Ban on consuming pork

4. Uncompromising monotheism

5. Do not believe in reincarnation

6. Belief in Day of Judgement

7. All the prophets mentioned in the old testament

8. How the universe was created

9. An eye for an eye and tooth for tooth policy.

One could go on and on. The similarities are far more than the differences. 

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-34/54
Sep 01, 2014
09:59 AM

>> Okay , now how did his contemporary, leader of Congress , Jawaharlal Nehru , a Hindu brahmin, reac when his only daughter married again a Zorastrian, like Jinnah's daughter did ?

He pretended that she was marrying a Hindu, in fact, some relative of Gandhi.

Whats InAName
San Francisco, United States
D-33/53
Sep 01, 2014
09:57 AM

>> No Muslim has ever started a movement against Hindu boys marrying Muslim girls.

What is the need for that when 2667 girls converted to Islam, and only two to Hinduism in Kerala?

Whats InAName
San Francisco, United States
D-32/52
Sep 01, 2014
09:55 AM

>> Using a man's family affairs to make hare-brained points is something that only a hate-crazed moron like you would do!

This is funny coming from a jehadi scum who was howling like a pig about Modi's wife.

Whats InAName
San Francisco, United States
D-31/5
Sep 01, 2014
09:50 AM

Here is a brief comment on this 'Great man,Anantha Murthy'.He never left a will to his family not to perform Brahminical rituals at his cremation,which was performed for hours on.His anti-brahminism is only for others.He could have written a will to donate his body to a research lab,not even his eyes were donated.he got sanctioned a huge site in the Dollars colony depite already having one.He never crticised the church in Kerala for it's dubious activities while he was vice-chancellor of Mahatma Gandhi University there.He spread falsehood and canard against Narendra Modi.He was extremely jealous of popular Kannada writers like S.L.Bhyrappa.Ofcourse he is still projected as a greatman.

S.S.Nagaraj
Bangalore, India
D-30/51
Sep 01, 2014
09:48 AM

@ Anwaar - "Nobody but Hindutvawadis, who would readily blame Muslims for all the evils of Hinduism!"

Don't make wild allegations. Substantiate them.

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-29/50
Sep 01, 2014
08:34 AM

Oh suddenly vile Jinnah's duplicity and islamic bigotry , of disowning his daughter, when it comes to inter-faith marriage, of his own daughter , becomes a personal affair !!!!!!

This same Jinnah who married a zorastarian and converted her to Islam.

In this information age, politicians can no longer make excuses for the genocidal islam that has wiped out Hindus and other minorities in vast areas of South Asia. 

Appply koranic logic of eye for an eye on Islam , that's the only logic they understand. Seculaism, democracy will be met with islamic belligerance and bigotry.

SaachBolo
SaachGarh, India
D-28/49
Sep 01, 2014
08:07 AM


D.L.Narayan,

>> " Nobody is in denial about the evils that crept into Hinduism over the years."

Nobody but Hindutvawadis, who would readily blame Muslims for all the evils of Hinduism!

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-27/1
Sep 01, 2014
08:06 AM
An excellent vista has been ushered in by Modi in the landscape of Indian Foreign Policy to build bridges with nations who cherish the same principles and ideals in life. And the support given by his advisory staff working in the background in this matter really needs to be applauded. This indicates a profound change in formulating Indian external relations to uphold the nation's long term interests in the international stage in contrast to Nehru's pursuit of hollow 'Pancheel' for which India received brickbats from China.
Pinaki S Ray, Adelaide
D-26/40
Sep 01, 2014
08:04 AM

 
Saachbolo,

>> " Islam and muslims have perpetrated greater genocide on Hindus than Nazis did on Jews"

What a shameless liar! Hate has destroyed your brain!

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-25/48
Sep 01, 2014
08:02 AM


Saachbolo, 

>> "Its hilarious to see anwaar attribute all the evil practices in muslim state or in islam to Judaism or 'pre-islamic' ideologies."

"All the evil practices"? When did I do that? Why do you lie so much? Do you want to see a list of Jewish traditions that have crept into Islam? Read the Old Testament, you ignoramus!

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-24/47
Sep 01, 2014
07:58 AM


Saachbolo,

>> "My apologies, I forgot to add, Mr Jinnah himself married a beautiful parsi zorastarian girl...."

Using a man's family affairs to make hare-brained points is something that only a hate-crazed moron like you would do!

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-23/46
Sep 01, 2014
07:53 AM


Love jihad? No, it's all about mutual respect, say inter-faith couples

For couples like these, it’s not love alone that conquers all but pragmatism and trust. With poll politics pushing the spectre of love jihad in many states, a few inter-faith couples from the city remain matter-of-fact about how mutual respect is keeping them going when there is pressure to convert, find social acceptance and raise children.

“No Muslim has ever started a movement against Hindu boys marrying Muslim girls. Love jihad is to use women as a weapon to foment communal trouble.”

epaperbeta.timesofindia.com/Article.aspx

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-22/45
Sep 01, 2014
07:22 AM

My apologies, I forgot to add, Mr Jinnah himself married a beautiful parsi zorastarian girl, 1/2 his age and converted her to Islam , but when his daughter did the same , he promptly disowned her or else the muslim electorate may have disowned Jinnah !

He encapsulates the duplicity of Islam with regards to inter-faith marriage , in a beautiful way.

SaachBolo
SaachGarh, India
D-21/44
Sep 01, 2014
04:51 AM

Jinnah, was the diabolic muslim leader of muslim Indians demanding seperate state for muslims. He was educated, westernized, pig eating and wine drinking 'devout' islamist. A gujrati shia muslim.

Now how did he behave when his daughter married a Zorastrian ? Lets ask wikipedia.

The Jinnah family (Urdu: ?????? ????‎; Gujarati: ?????? ??????) is a political family in South Asia. Its most notable member is Muhammad Ali Jinnah[3] the founder of Pakistan. His only child was Dina Wadia. She had a rift with her father when she expressed her desire to marry an Indian Parsi, Neville Wadia. According to M C Chagla in "Roses in December", Jinnah, a Muslim, disowned his daughter after trying to dissuade her from marrying Neville, an Indian Parsi. His descendants through her are part of the Wadia family and reside in India as she married and stayed in India after the independence of Pakistan in 1947.

Okay , now how did his contemporary, leader of Congress , Jawaharlal Nehru , a Hindu brahmin, reac when his only daughter married again a Zorastrian, like Jinnah's daughter did ?

Compare and contrast and it will give you another window into the vile bigotry that is at the core of cultist islam.

SaachBolo
SaachGarh, India
D-20/11
Sep 01, 2014
04:31 AM

 Treat muslims of Indian subcontinent the way muslims of Indian subcontinent have treated Hindus where ever they have been in power and in majority. They do not understand language of secularism and democracy.  Unleash koran on them.

SaachBolo
SaachGarh, India
D-19/62
Sep 01, 2014
04:27 AM

isolate, quarantine, contain and punish the ummah unless and until the ummah changes. Did he world go loooking for moderate Nazis ? . Did any moderate muslims save genocide of Hindus in Pakistan ? Who were the greatest supporters of Pakistan movement ? 

Indian muslims of UP. All ttheir vilest leaders from Jinnah to Iqbal to Suarwardy came from territories that make India today.

SaachBolo
SaachGarh, India
D-18/43
Sep 01, 2014
03:36 AM

>> "There is no need to sanitise or revise anything."

  >>>>>>It takes honesty to admit sanitization and revision. There is no shame in it.   I meant there is no need to sanitise or revise anything Hindu, Nobody is in denial about the evils that crept into Hinduism over the years. That is why concrete steps have been taken for rooting them out. It would not have been possible if Hinduism is not open to criticism and amenable to reform.   Yes, it takes honesty to admit the truth and there's no shame in it. So, go ahead and start being truthful.
D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-17/39
Sep 01, 2014
02:59 AM

 All that you need to know is that Islam and muslims have perpetrated greater genocide on Hindus than Nazis did on Jews in Pakistan, Bangladesh and Kashmie valley , wiping out Hindus and Sikhs from 22% of population of pakistan to 1% today.

Isolate, quarantine and contain islam or else it will consume and defile societies as it has done in Iran, Afganistan and Pakistan.

SaachBolo
SaachGarh, India
D-16/42
Sep 01, 2014
02:28 AM

Its hilarious to see anwaar attribute all the evil practices in muslim state or in islam to Judaism or 'pre-islamic' ideologies.   The truth is anything good in koran may have been copied from Judaism.  All the vile , repugnant bigotry that islam preaches against non-muslims can be attributed entirely to the 7th century demagogic saudi.

SaachBolo
SaachGarh, India
D-15/41
Sep 01, 2014
01:56 AM
D.L.Narayan,

>> "There is no need to sanitise or revise anything."

It takes honesty to admit sanitization and revision. There is no shame in it.

>> "It is about certain verses which inspire fanatic fervour in the likes of ISIS, Al Qaeda, Al Shabab, Boko Haram, Lashkar e Toiba."

They do not need any verses to get their fanatic fervour any more than Babu Bajrangi or Pravin Togadia do.

>> "Manusmriti has not been disowned, it has simply been rejected"

Whatever!
Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-14/1
Sep 01, 2014
01:43 AM

Rahul must stop talking politics like a kid.He has proved himself to be a superdud who allowed Modi the chaiwaalh to become the PM1Rahul could not have even a website for Congress properly presented and did not have any answers to the plethera of lies that Modi spoke.If he wants to be a philosopher he should go ask Modi to give him a plum post like Governer where he can sit and write books.How congress can deliver when it has only RSS people surrounding it and immersed in corruption.AAP is the only secular alternative for India.

Nasar Ahmed, Karikkudi
D-13/3
Sep 01, 2014
01:31 AM

Looking at the picture, yellow school buses, first I thought it was school in USA. It appeared to be a lowly poor neighborhood because brown skineed children looked like hispanics. Then I realized this is India where a section of Indians lording over the rest. Or may be it is America of 1950s and 60s with segragated schools. It is long way for India ...

Rajesh
Phoenix, United States
D-12/40
Sep 01, 2014
01:19 AM

" You can disown Manusmriti but you cannot make it disappear!"

Manusmriti has not been disowned, it has simply been rejected because it is no longer relevant. Unlike the Vedas (Shrutis) which are eternal, the smritis are not and can be discarded when they lose their relevance. Laws of social behaviour written over 2000 years ago cannot remain relevant and immutable in the 21st century.

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-11/4
Sep 01, 2014
01:19 AM

>> Wrong! The best known is the one by the Canadian-Pakistani cleric against all terrorists, including Al Qaeda and the Talibans.

Probably I missed that. But I haven't heard of public demonstration against extremism. There are regular demonstrations in favor of palestinians, and some in favour of IS.

Rajesh, Phoenix
D-10/39
Sep 01, 2014
01:00 AM

" Read modern Islamic literature which makes a distinction between Quranic verses which hold eternal truths and verses which only reflect the pre-Islamic Arab and Jewish traditions prevailing in Arabia in the 7th century."

I do not need to be convinced about the eternal truths present in all religions, including Islam.

It is about certain verses which inspire fanatic fervour in the likes of ISIS, Al Qaeda, Al Shabab, Boko Haram, Lashkar e Toiba and others too numerous to count. 

It is for the progressive Muslims to take on the mullahs and the ulema and get those problematic verses expunged. Tahir ul Qadri is instead joining hands with a crypto-Talibani to bring down an elected goverment with the support of the Pakistani army.

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-9/38
Sep 01, 2014
12:47 AM

"You are the one who is always touting a sanitized and revisionist version of Hinduism in order to show the supposed superiority of Hinduism!"

There are many ideological streams of Hinduism covering the entire spectrum from extreme to the other. There is no need to sanitise or revise anything. I personally believe in the Vedanta. I have never denied repugnant practices like sati, untouchability and human sacrifices nor tried to justify them. There is no rigidity in Hinduism which is easily malleable and can easily adapt to change.

I present facts. If they make you feel uncomfortable that is your problem, not mine. Try refuting them instead of imputing motives.

I understand your angst which makes you splutter with anger and spout abuse. Defending the indefensible is not an easy task.

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-8/10
Sep 01, 2014
12:31 AM


We have yet to hear even a squeak from PM Modi: Karan Thapar

Has the BJP taken leave of its senses? And, of course, that's a rhetorical and also provocative question but then, as you will soon discover, its both justified and grounded in a disturbing, actually distressing, reality. In fact, my second question is more pointed: why is Mr Modi silent? For a prime minister who delights in tweeting and commenting frequently this is surprising, if not also worrying.

So what am I talking about? It's the brazenly communal statements made by senior BJP leaders in UP. Here are a few examples:

Clearly alluding to the state's 18% Muslim community, Laxmikant Bajpai, BJP UP president, said: "Have they got the certificate to rape girls because they belong to a particular religion?" (Indian Express, August 24).

Actually, that was not all. Giving credence to rumours spread by the social media, he added: "Youngsters should be vigilant against love jihad. Why is the government lenient to those who indulge in such practice? Have they got licence to convert the girls of majority community?" (The Hindu, August 24).

In fact, his comments went further. Talking about rape in UP, Mr Bajpai claimed "99.99% of the accused are Muslims" (Times of India, August 24). He added: "The UP government is defending love jihadis whilst their victims are murdered or harassed by the police."

Unfortunately, Mr Bajpai was not a lone voice. Kalraj Mishra, a Union minister, also spoke about love jihad (The Hindu, August 24). So clearly these are not casual comments made by insignificant men. This is deliberate and calculated BJP policy.

Now do you see why I asked my first question? These remarks stink of prejudice. They are designed to provoke communal passions and create a rift. The aim is to portray Muslims as predators and criminals whilst presenting Hindus as innocent victims.

I won't speculate why the BJP is spouting such venom — and I use that word deliberately — but it ain't difficult to guess. Even if the phrase love jihad' didn't feature in its official resolution, this is what it said: "Instances of misbehaviour with women of one section by men of one particular section, whether just coincidence or by design, is a matter of concern" (Times of India, August 25). Is that any better?

Doesn't this lead to the conclusion the BJP in UP seems like a communal party adopting blatantly anti-Muslim positions? The facts as I have presented them — and I can't find any to the contrary — point in that direction.

Which brings me to my second question: why is Mr Modi silent? How can any prime minister permit his party men — leave aside its leaders — to speak like this?

Just 16 days ago Mr Modi spoke of communal harmony, togetherness and brotherliness. He called for a 10-year moratorium on communal and caste strife. His colleagues have barely given him two weeks. Yet I haven't heard a word from the prime minister. I'm too polite to say a squeak!

To be honest, the Prime Minister's silence is inexplicable. Some would call it rank irresponsibility. But I'll go one step further. It amounts to a deliberate dereliction of his moral duty. Worse, it suggests complicity.

So what's my plea? It's simple, straightforward and very direct: Please prove me wrong, Mr Modi. Please show you meant what you said on Independence Day. India's unity is more important than the BJP's victory in UP. Now, I'm sure you'll say that's your priority. However, you need to act and behave as if you mean it.

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-7/37
Sep 01, 2014
12:22 AM


The Hindutva agenda at this time does not have Ram Mandir as its number one priority. The number one priority is to generate maximum communal hatred in order to win elections. Adityanath, Amit Shah, Mohan Bhagwat, Sangeet Som and others will do this dirty deed, while Modi, Rajnath and Jaitley will look the other way pretending to be above the fray. But how can Modi, Rajnath and Jaitley have any legitimacy if they do not speak up against this poisonous communalization of our polity and openly denounce the hate promoters in their own party?

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-6/2
Sep 01, 2014
12:14 AM

Chop off her tongue

Misogynist, Chennai
D-5/36
Sep 01, 2014
12:06 AM


Ghai,

>> "The question arises how he became dirty rich in the Rag to Riches Story ? Jihad Money or Politcal and Policemens' bribes parked with Ribul Rehaman ?"

Jihad money going to someone who is posing as a Hindu? Are you getting senile? The moral of the story is that if you are honest you will remain poor, but if you are a go-getter, you will become rich.

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-4/2
Sep 01, 2014
12:02 AM

Chop off her tongue

Misogynist, Chennai
D-3/2
Sep 01, 2014
12:01 AM

Indian judiciary is a FARCE

Misogynist, Chennai
D-2/2
Sep 01, 2014
12:00 AM

It happens to Boys in hostel all the time,

Many of them commit suicide.

But when it happens to a GIRL, look at the media frenzy!

Why this gender casteism in torturing young children?

Misogynist, Chennai
D-1/35
Sep 01, 2014
12:00 AM


Saachbolo,

>> "Hindu majority India has constitutionally not only disowned manusmriti but has gone a step further by giving special priveleges to historically repressed castes."

You can disown Manusmriti but you cannot make it disappear! Manusmrti should at least instill some humility in you so that you do not attack other relgions which are still in the process of making distinctions between what is of eternal value and what is just a carryover from pre-islamic Arab and Jewish traditions. But such humility seems to be inconsistent with the Hindutva dharma which is to put other religions down, even hiring professional hate pracharaks like yourself!

Anwaar
Dallas, United States