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D-92/67
Jul 24, 2014
01:58 PM
D.L.Narayan,

>> "You simply excommunicate them."

Liar, when did I ever excommunicate people who chant pro-Pak and anti-India slogans, who attack pilgrims or desecrate temples? You are a shameless smearer.



 
Anwaar, Dallas
D-91/5
Jul 24, 2014
01:49 PM

Kashmir,Telangana not India's parts: Indian MP

ammu Kashmir and Telangana are not parts of India and New Delhi has forcibly occupied these territories.

Kavitha, who represents Telangana Rashtra Samithi (TRS) party in the parliament, during a newspaper said that Telangana and Kashmir were both separate territories but were forcefully merged into India after independence. "We need to come out clean on Jammu Kashmir. Few parts were not ours, we should agree, we should redraw the international lines, and move on," she added.

Kavitha is daughter of Telangana Chief Minister K Chandra Sekhar Rao. India's Congress party took strong exception to certain 'controversial' remarks made by Kavitha on Jammu Kashmir and Telangana, which the party believes could inadvertently cast serious doubts on the integrity and legitimacy of the Indian union.

Congress spokesperson Abhishek Singhvi said the stand of the Congress and even of parliament was that the (erstwhile) princely state of Kashmir in its entirety is an 'integral, invisible, inalienable' part of India, according to the 'Accession Instrument' of 1947. He asserted that it was important to clarify these things because the foreign leaders, institutions or bodies coming across such statements by an elected representative.

Mohan, Adiipur
D-90/266
Jul 24, 2014
01:47 PM


D.L.narayan,

>> "They belonged to the same tribe, the same ethnic stock."

Ethnological evidence has revealed that there were six distinct races in India: Negrito, Proto-Australoid, Mongoloid, Alpine, Mediterranean and lastly Aryans who came from Iran and further West.

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-89/66
Jul 24, 2014
01:40 PM

Today's PrimeTime topic on new channels.

Is Sania Mirza daughter of India or daughter in law of Pakistan ?

Please don't miss the most important issue facing us. 

Mohan, Adiipur
D-88/8
Jul 24, 2014
01:40 PM

We should have informed the Arabs support our Enemy Pakistan on Kashmir hence we are Voting against your Resolution.

Ake Hath De Dusre Hath Le.

Enough boot licking of Arabs we have done.

ashok kumar ghai, Mumbai
D-87/65
Jul 24, 2014
01:31 PM

"When did I ever defend people who chant pro-Pak and anti-India slogans, who attack pilgrims or desecrate temples?"

Anwaar bhai, learn to read properly. Don't get apoplectic.

I never said you defended them. You simply excommunicate them. You say they are NOT MUSLIMS. Just as you responded to the acts of the the ISIS and Boko Haram. You disowned them.

Am I lying?

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-86/7
Jul 24, 2014
01:30 PM

We should have informed the Araba syou don't supporr our Enemy Pakistan hence we are Voting against the Resolution.

Give with one hand and take with the other hand.

ashok kumar ghai, Mumbai
D-85/64
Jul 24, 2014
01:25 PM

What happened at Maharashtra Sadan: The real story behind the Shiv Sena force-feeding controversy

For many days now, tension had been brewing between Maharashtra MPs of the Shiv Sena and BJP. Shiv Sena MPs believe they have been sidelined and treated shabbily at the Sadan.

For more than 24 hours now, news channels across the country have been beaming visuals of Shiv Sena MP Rajan Vichare trying to force-feed an IRCTC canteen supervisor at the New Maharashta Sadan in Delhi. But that is only a small part of the actual story.

After the news of the incident spread, news channels acquired video clippings of the incident which were telecast almost the whole day on Wednesday. The issue even stalled Parliament as the supervisor in question is a Muslim who was observing his Ramadan fast. The IRCTC supervisor Arshad Zubair’s complaint to his seniors says, “Everybody in the panel also knew my name as Arshad as I was wearing the name tag. Even then they inserted chapatti in my mouth which caused my fast to break on the eve of Ramzan." Read Arshad's full complaint .

The Shiv Sena has claimed that they did not know the supervisor’s religion and that the entire issue was deliberately being given a communal angle.
So what really happened at the Maharashtra Sadan on July 17?

On that day, around 15 reporters belonging to print and visual media had gathered at the New Maharashtra Sadan, anticipating protests by the Shiv Sena. The News Minute spoke to three reporters who covered the Shiv Sena protest, and what they had to say is a lot more than what the visuals show.

For many days now, tension had been brewing between Maharashtra MPs of the Shiv Sena and BJP. Shiv Sena MPs believe they have been sidelined and treated shabbily at the Sadan. They were upset about many things, their main ire was over Satyapal Singh, former Mumbai Police Commissioner and BJP MP from Baghpat in UP and Kirit Somaiya, chairman of the Sadan's Housing Committee.

On July 16, many reporters in Delhi covering the Shiv Sena and ‘Maharashtra’ beat were told that the Shiv Sena would be protesting the next day against certain issues at the New Maharashtra Sadan. But strangely, the protests were not about the IRCTC canteen at the Sadan.

“Shiv Sena sources told us that they would hold protests demanding to know why Satyapal Singh was given a ministerial suite in the Maharashtra Sadan. They were also against two or three other UP MPs being given suites,” says Ramraje Shinde, a senior correspondent with Mi Marathi.

Another reporter who wished to remain anonymous said, “The Shiv Sena MPs were very angry with the BJP, especially Kirit Somaiya who is the chairman of the housing committee. They told us over the phone that they are being treated shabbily, were allotted bad rooms and wanted to protest.”
On the day of the incident, reporters and camerapersons gathered at the Maharashta Sadan at 10.30 am. As the Parliament was in session, most of the MPs reached only after around 12.30 pm, and then the protest started.

“They went to the media room in the Maharashtra Sadan and summoned Resident Commissioner of the Sadan Bipin Mallick. But Bipin Mallick had gone to the airport to receive the chief secretary of Maharashtra J S Saharia and this agitated the MPs even more,” says Ranjeet, a reporter with ANI.
The MPs then summoned Suhas, the manager of the Sadan. They questioned Suhas why Satyapal Singh was given a ministerial suite and asked him to show the register to ascertain how many non-Maharashtra MPs were staying at the Sadan. Suhas then brought the register and tried to explain that it was not in his powers to decide who is given a room or suite.

After 1.30 pm the agitated MPs then decided to move to Bipin Mallick’s cabin. The canteen of the Sadan falls in between the media room and Mallick’s cabin, while passing the canteen a few MPs raised the issue of sub-standard food in the cabin and the group entered the canteen.

“They first inspected the food, which can be clearly seen in the visuals. A veg thali costs around Rs 150 in the Sadan and many including journalists have complained in the past that the food is of bad quality. After checking the thalis in the canteen one of the MPs said ‘let’s move to the kitchen.’”

The MPs shouted for the canteen-in-charge to come out and that is when Arshad Zubair, the canteen supervisor made an appearance. Two MPs Krupal Thumane and Arvind Sawant then started questioning Arshad, asking him if the food was palatable. They asked him to eat the food and show, and while these two MPs were yelling at Arshad, another MP Rajan Vichare picked up a chapatti and tried to shove it in Arshad’s mouth.

“He said “fast hai” twice or thrice. Rajan Vichare could have stopped then, but I don’t know whether he heard when Arshad said “fast hai” the first time. When he repeated it, he should have stopped. But another MP then said leave him, after all he is just a servant, let’s go get the master,” says Ramraj Shinde.

As Rajan Vichare was bullying Arshad, others behind were shouting “Maara yela” (beat him up), which is when an MP asked why target Arshad, let’s go behind his master.

“The MPs were very angry and Rajan Vichare would have done this to any canteen supervisor. Most of us did not know that guy’s name was Arshad. Vichare should have simply stopped when Arshad said he was fasting,” another reporter said.

The MPs then started shouting slogans against north Indians like “Bhaiyya Hatao, Maharashtra Sadan Bachao,” again mainly targeting Satyapal Singh.

The MP mob accompanied by supporters then marched to Bipin Mallick’s cabin. “The anger had reached a peak by then, but Mallick did not appear. In about 10 minutes, the MPs stormed out,” says Ramraj Shinde.

Two of the MPs took a pen and wrote their protests on the walls of the cabin. While the mob was moving out, someone pushed a black wall clock down and broke it.

Meanwhile Bipin Mallick, who was told well in advance about the protests, dropped the Chief Secretary at the Sadan and did not bother to turn up in front of the MPs.

The MPs were appraised of this and they went to meet J S Saharia. Saharia gave them a patient hearing and even gave the reporters present there an interview claiming he will look into the complaints.

Mi Marathi telecast the visuals of the protests and altercation that day, but nothing was said about that Roza angle. “I personally believe that Bipin Mallick made Arshad write the complaint in such a way that the issue was diverted away from him. What the MPs did is definitely not good, but IRCTC and Sadan need to also explain about the shoddy job they were doing,” says Ramraj Shinde.

ANI, a news service provider that provides content to channels across the country and globe, did not send the visual through their server that day. “ANI duty editor saw the visual and decided in his wisdom that it was better not to send the visuals through our server. One or two local channels showing visuals is not the same as ANI sending it to many channels/ the duty editor took the call that it could inflame passions and killed the story, the next day morning other news stories took over and the story lost relevance,” Smita Prakash, Editor of ANI told The News Minute.

Smita Prakash also adds that she believes it was better the story first appeared on print and then picked up by channels. “This is Ramzan period and many channels simultaneously beaming visuals at the same time can do no good. When the story appears on print, it has at least been dissected properly.”

The Maharashtra Sadan manager Suhas Mamdapurkar was shunted out on Wednesday and a new manager appointed. On July 21, Suhas was served a show-cause notice by the Additional Resident Commissioner Sameer Sahai asking him to explain why rooms were allotted to non-Maharashtra MPs. On June 22, Suhas submitted an application to Sameer Sahai requesting help to formulate his reply, and the very next say, he was shunted out.

So was this a Shiv Sena- BJP row that turned ugly, and the employees of IRCTC and Sadan just got caught in the crossfire? With the state going to polls in a few months, the row only reflects that all in not well in the BJP-Shiv Sena camp and this will resonate during the polls.

The Shiv Sena claims they did not know Arshad’s identity, and they had no intentions to hurt his religious sentiments. But thrusting a roti down anyone’s throat should be reason enough for the MPs to be ashamed of their conduct.

Mohan, Adiipur
D-84/11
Jul 24, 2014
01:24 PM

"An Israeli rabbi has issued a ruling that allows the killing of innocent civilians in the besieged Gaza Strip."

Anwaar is probably right when he says that the conflict is not about religion.

There are a lot of similarities between the semitic religions. Both practice circumcision, do not eat pork, wear skull caps and are monotheistic. Even the Rabbis and Mullahs seem to think alike and issue ridiculous rulings and fatwas at the drop of a hat.

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-83/3
Jul 24, 2014
01:24 PM


Shiv Sena, just like its senior coalition partner, is bad news for India.
 

Anwaar, Dallas
D-82/63
Jul 24, 2014
01:23 PM

Very probable that the MP is speaking the truth about not knowing the religion, and again very possible that the food quality was bad. That however does not excuse his pathetic behaviour. That said, it would be nice if we turn our lens inward rather than feeling too smug about the food-shoving business. The Shiv Sena man is just another bully who used his position and clout to humiliate an easy pick. Bad for him that the cameras were rolling. And good for many of us that the cameras are not rolling elsewhere. Our security and police forces who disrespect our citizens, our treatment of domestic help and others who are lower down in the pecking order, our caste violence -- unless it's caught on cameras, and our homes and our workplaces and our schools, among others. Bullying -- physically violent and otherwise -- is a way of life for us. All the commotion we make on the Net and in the Parliament over this particular incident -- not that we should not make it -- will not do anything to alter that fact.
p.s.
Imagine the cameras were not present and/or the staff had tried to make a more forceful remonstration. What would have followed was a real sound thrashing at the very least. All of us  -- if we had heard of it -- would have been more agitated. But it's a scene that gets played out at very many places in our everyday lives, the difference being that we would not be inclined to write homilies and nonsense -- such as the midday food sceme in Kerala -- about it on the Outlook forum.

Santosh John Samuel, Kochi
D-81/10
Jul 24, 2014
01:21 PM

One Muslim Girl kisses an Jew .HENCE  JEWS AND MUSLIMS REFUSE TO BE ENEMIES !!!

SO ARE THEY KILLING EACH OTHER ,SHOWERING KILLER MISSILES ON EACH OTHER OUT OF LOVE AND FRIENDSHIP ???

ashok kumar ghai
Mumbai, India
D-80/62
Jul 24, 2014
01:19 PM


D.L.Narayan,

>> "Those people who chant pro-Pak and anti-India slogans, who attack pilgrims, desecrate temples are not Muslims if you ask Anwaar..."

You are such a despicable and shameless liar! When did I ever defend people who chant pro-Pak and anti-India slogans, who attack pilgrims or desecrate temples? What is the need to tell such lies? What do you gain out of it, you moron? 

Anwaar, Dallas
D-79/2
Jul 24, 2014
01:14 PM

"For him, “Mahmoud Abbas and Hamas are pretty much the same."

False. While Fatah, to which Abbas belongs, has rejected violence, Hamas is a terrorist outfit which refuses to recognise the right of Israel to exist.

This is like saying for Indians, there is no difference between Omar Abdulla, who accepts the Indian constitution and Geelani who believes that Kashmir should be a part of Pakistan.

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-78/4
Jul 24, 2014
01:07 PM

"sympathy for the Palestinians in TV and newspaper coverage seems to show a distinct shift. "

Congratulations. The Hamas game plan has partly succeeded. By ensuring hospitals and residential areas get bombed, by ensuring that women and children are not evacuated, the Hamas has won a propaganda war.

However, Israel is immune to criticism. For them, national interests are paramount as it should be. Only weak, soft states will succumb to the blackmail of terrorist groups.

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-77/1
Jul 24, 2014
01:02 PM


> "As Israeli analyst Noam Sheizaf points out, Netanyahu is opposed to a peace deal of any kind. For him, “Mahmoud Abbas and Hamas are pretty much the same. Any gain by either one of them is a loss to Israel.”

This is a correct assessment and one can besure that the Americans know it.


 

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-76/61
Jul 24, 2014
01:00 PM

"Don't tell it to Anwaar and Saroja."

As though they are not aware.

Those people who chant pro-Pak and anti-India slogans, who attack pilgrims, desecrate temples are not Muslims if you ask Anwaar, just as the Al Qaeda, ISIS, Boko Haram, LeT, JuD and other low life aren't.

As for Saroja, she will say that the protestors are justified because they have been oppressed by the Hindus for centuries. Anything remotely Anti-Hindu is ipso facto close to her heart.

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-75/3
Jul 24, 2014
12:58 PM


The Israeli lobby in Washingto D.C. remains strong but sympathy for the Palestinians in TV and newspaper coverage seems to show a distinct shift. 
 

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-74/4
Jul 24, 2014
12:54 PM

>> Yet another example of PRESSTITUTEs turning an innocuous statement into a weapon to foster communalism masquerading as secularism.

Maybe I shall watch the interview, but whatever be the context, there is nothing wrong in calling her DIL of Pakistan, if she can be labeled as Daughter of Hyderabad by Telengana govt.

That does not make her ineligible for this role though. Whether she is qualified or not, if other better candidates were available, and if her religion was one of the main (or main) reason for selecting her, is a separate matter. Being married to a Paki doesn't dilute her Indian nationality.

Whats InAName
San Francisco, United States
D-73/6
Jul 24, 2014
12:51 PM

" Brilliant response to calling BJP sick for objecting to Sania Mirza as she is Pakistan's daughter-in-law "

The headline is misleading.

Telugu speaking youth who know no other home than Hyderabad are being called outsiders and denied admission to medical/engineering colleges. Those who are already studying these courses may have to discontinue their studies because the Telagana is refusing to subsidise their education.

The rule framed by the Telangana govt is that those whose families were not residents of Telangana prior to 1956 are outsiders. If you apply this rule to Ms Mirza. She is an outsider and ineligible to be the brand ambassador of that state.

To make things worse, she is being paid Rs 1 crore while thousands of students are losing out on subsidies that other students are eligible for.

Outlook has chosen to sensationalise the issue with a misleading headline and incredibly brilliant "secular" geniuses bite the bait. What else can be expected from such people who see things in only black and white and is incapable of forming a holistic view of anything.

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-72/1
Jul 24, 2014
12:47 PM


"The most far-reaching success is the policy directive of the European Union that forbids funding, cooperation, research awards or any similar relationship with any Israeli entity that has “direct or indirect links” to the occupied territories, where all settlements are illegal, as the EU declaration reiterates."

Without full U.S. support of BDS (Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions), the EU action is not likely to have a major impact.


 

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-71/60
Jul 24, 2014
12:47 PM

>> Yatriyn ke saamne lagaye naare ' Kshmir hamara hai, Pakistan Zindabad' Jamu Kashmir Police aur ghore walon ne dhai ghante lootmar ki.Murtiyon ko pathar maare, Shiv Ling ka apmaan kiya, langar ka saman banane wale barton aur jhavan kund mein peshab kiya

Don't tell it to Anwaar and Saroja.

Whats InAName
San Francisco, United States
D-70/59
Jul 24, 2014
12:40 PM

Yatriyn ke saamne lagaye naare ' Kshmir hamara hai, Pakistan Zindabad'  Jamu Kashmir Police aur ghore walon ne dhai ghante lootmar ki.Murtiyon ko pathar maare, Shiv Ling ka apmaan kiya, langar ka saman banane wale barton aur jhavan kund mein peshab kiya.

pic.twitter.com/STSR9OJQRc

Mohan, Adiipur
D-69/2
Jul 24, 2014
12:39 PM

As long as you vote such elements to Power you are going to get this

harun, chennai
D-68/3
Jul 24, 2014
12:21 PM

Sania always hovered around sixty as a singles player in world ranking.She surely does not deserve this honour and that big cash.On the other hand badminton ace Saina and V V S Lakshman deserved this honour,but Hindus are not a vote bank like Muslims.

S.S.Nagaraj, Bangalore
D-67/1
Jul 24, 2014
12:17 PM

JAIL is teh only place for such perpetrators of violence.

pankaj hedaoo, Kuala Lumpur
D-66/9
Jul 24, 2014
12:16 PM

 
Israeli rabbi says killing civilians in Gaza is allowed

An Israeli rabbi has issued a ruling that allows the killing of innocent civilians in the besieged Gaza Strip.

Dov Lior, an Israeli rabbi from the illegal settlement of Kiryat Arba in the occupied West Bank, said in the ruling that it is “okay” to kill innocent civilians and destroy Gaza.

The ruling also says that it is not necessary to check if the people targeted are civilians or non-civilians.

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-65/1
Jul 24, 2014
12:15 PM

Shiv Sena is trying to defned the indefensible. They need to GROW UP. Losers!

pankaj hedaoo, Kuala Lumpur
D-64/8
Jul 24, 2014
12:03 PM

Ram Lala,

>> " last prophecy of Mohammad that Judgement Day will not come until the Muslims rise up and kill all the Jews."

Hamas got that from some Hadith, not from the Quran. The vast majority of Muslims do not believe it and most of them have never heard of it. American Evangelical Christians, especially the Baptists, have a similar belief, but most Christians reject it. Hate merchants like yourself seem always to have a good supply of such stories to smear Muslims every chance you get!
 

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-63/7
Jul 24, 2014
11:47 AM

 
Anti-Semitism Cannot be the Response to Israeli Attacks on Gaza: By Aditya Nigam

Extremely disturbing reports of anti-Israeli sentiments spilling over into generalized attacks in France have been coming in lately. This is completely unacceptable. The just cause of the Palestinian people is about occupation of their land by Zionists and all Jews are by no means responsible for the brutality that Israel is exhibiting in its attacks on Gaza, sparing no one and even specifically targeting small children. This is not a religious or a racial issue but one of political justice.

kafila.org/2014/07/24/anti-semitism-cannot-be-the-response-to-israeli-attacks-on-gaza/#respond

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-62/14
Jul 24, 2014
11:18 AM

Some moron just said that "ideally we need 2 3 NDA terms to get thngs right". Mr. Modi had said that he only needs 5 years one single term. So 2-3 terms is out of questions. Whatever be the case NDA policies do not differ much when compared to UPA, our soldiers are still being gunned down in kashmir and till date no fitting reply has been provided to Pak instead we called their premier to have kebabs at our PM swearing in ceremony. Bullet trains are being proposes but nothing is done for poverty ridden people and the jobless.

A. Sharma
Mumbai, India
D-61/2
Jul 24, 2014
11:17 AM

Well said, Sir Non-Fanatic! one is astounded by the fact the whole world, mostly Israel bashers, focus only on the death of innocents in Gaza (very regrettable in itself though retaliatory in nature), whereas ISIS and Boko haram march with glee and celebration over hundreds of dead bodies shot in cold blood with probably a mere whisper of a protest by the rest of the world!

Venkat D, Bangalore
D-60/2
Jul 24, 2014
11:16 AM

Watch his interview. He said this in an entirely different context of apparently the Telangana government using a cut off year of 1956 to decide who is local.

Yet another example of PRESSTITUTEs turning an innocuous statement into a weapon to foster communalism masquerading as secularism.

Pradip Singh, stafford
D-59/1
Jul 24, 2014
11:08 AM
Hamas badly needs to replenish its dead terrorists to throw the remaining few of their duds, I mean rockets, at Israel.  David Ward should achieve his long cherished dream to play with firecrackers and join Hamas.  

Israel will only be too happy to oblige him with "royal" treatment.

Non Fanatic, London
D-58/1
Jul 24, 2014
11:01 AM
The stupids who call themselves Hamas: And their this "great victory" came at the cost 700 dead Gazans and 3/4ths of Gaza levelled.  

Do they have any sense or perspective of what a "great victory" is?

Non Fanatic, London
D-57/1
Jul 24, 2014
10:55 AM
This old, infirm, degenerated, demented and deceased relic of a human is advising the Gazans to go and die, very generously while he is cocooned safely in fancy luxury in a far away land.  How kind of him to offer such wise advise!  

Maybe he should pack up and enjoy the misery of Gaza under attack for a day and experience what it all is.  Then he would shut up and that is if he ever lives long enough.

Non Fanatic, London
D-56/1
Jul 24, 2014
10:48 AM

For those who question why Israel attacks universities, hospitals and schools, here this news article gives the reason: All of these places have been converted to arms depots/dumps and rocket launching pads by that murderous terrorist organization Hamas.

Hamas really does not care about its civilian deaths nor does it have any qualms about converting civilian areas into Hamas terror dumps to launch attacks against Israel, fully knowing that Israeli retaliation and killing of its own Gazan muslim civilians will gain more sympathy for Hamas.

Truly, those who accuse Israel for all this to be anti-Muslim propaganda should now at least open their blinkers and their brains and agree that it would have been very difficult for Israel to pile up Hamas's Iranian rockets in a UN school deep inside Gaza.  And none other than the UN Secretary General is witness to this and you cannot accuse him to say the least of being pro-Israel.

Hamas is now caught red-handed and with its pants down, and Israel should now just go and finish off Hamas and finish the job.  Hamas and its supporters simply don't have a case.

Non Fanatic, London
D-55/58
Jul 24, 2014
10:45 AM

@Pradip Singh - "But what about the conduct of the media and the regular secular mob? Their concerted attempt to turn this into a story of Muslim victimization in "Hindu" India is an even bigger and and even more contemptible act of vandalism."

And you can trust the sickos to keep up the heat until the next train burners quote this as justification of their act.

K.Suresh, Bangalore
D-54/14
Jul 24, 2014
10:44 AM

Palestine is protecting missiles by hiding them behind civilians whereas Israel is protecting civilians by hiding them behind missiles!! 

That's the BIG difference!!
Kiran Bagachi
mumbai, India
D-53/6
Jul 24, 2014
10:41 AM

This is stupid!! 

Kiran Bagachi, mumbai
D-52/15
Jul 24, 2014
10:40 AM

Chiranjeevi was also dressed in a similar Arab attire. But then from a Congress member, its very much expected to go over the top like this. But I am wondering what happened to CBN...

Kiran Bagachi
mumbai, India
D-51/5
Jul 24, 2014
10:36 AM

>>However, Sania Mirza was born in Mumbai, her father played cricket for Mumbai. Had she not been a celebrity, she would have been treated as an "outsider" ineligible for a seat in the institutions there or for a government job. How can Telangana claim her as its own while it treats kids who spent all their lives in Hyderabad as "outsiders" and seeks to deprive them of higher education and jobs in city where they have spent all their lives? Now, that is sick.

Brilliant response to calling BJP sick for objecting to Sania Mirza as she is Pakistan's daughter-in-law 

R. Saroja
Bombay, India
D-50/57
Jul 24, 2014
10:25 AM

Certainly the highhandedness of SS MP was reprehensible, but trust sickos to communalise the issue. But the opposition furore may be worth it if it can discipline rogue SS MPs.

K.Suresh, Bangalore
D-49/2
Jul 24, 2014
10:24 AM

Pro-Israel rally in NY, Pro-Hamas rally in Paris..can you tell the difference ?

cms.outlookindia.comtwitter.com/NinaTetra/status/491873114188709888/photo/1

Disclaimer: I just followed some stories and links to see this page. I have no idea if the pictures are true, or if they have been picked from some other event/photoshopped, etc.

Whats InAName
San Francisco, United States
D-48/56
Jul 24, 2014
10:16 AM

>> Whats InAName, if in a restaurant in San Francisco the food quality was terrible, would anyone engage in a similar behavior?

I don't think you have understood my position.

Whats InAName
San Francisco, United States
D-47/1
Jul 24, 2014
10:01 AM

Bharatiya Jokers party.

Mohan, Adiipur
D-46/265
Jul 24, 2014
10:00 AM

'Iran means home of Aryans'

Actually everything and everyone is Indian. 

www.youtube.com/watch

Mohan
Adiipur, India
D-45/1
Jul 24, 2014
09:54 AM

He is obviously right in two things. We need more created rupees, not  $.

We also need knowledge of the economy. The gold standard died in 1971. The new economic balance is

FISCAL DEFICIT - TRADE  DEFICIT = NET PRIVATE  SAVINGS . 

FISCAL deficit is free money. Any amount can be produced at zero cost and zero interest rate. Not only that, unless FISCAL DEFICIT exceeds TRADE DEFICIT, the economy will DIE. Right now it is 4.6% GDP and India's growth is also 4.6% GDP showing reduced DEFICITS are the cause of economic misery. Modi is stuck on FDI and this may lead to a crash of the economy.

Parthasarathy Shakkottai, Long Beach
D-44/5
Jul 24, 2014
09:38 AM

Glad to see India voting for the resolution.

Amit Thakur, Tokyo
D-43/264
Jul 24, 2014
08:35 AM

Since the debate on caste, varna is unceasing, let me bring attention to my post, #232, much read going by the number of dislikes but not commented upon for whatever reason. This is not caste system of Vedik times but caste as seen by near contemporaries Vivekananda & Savarkar.

I raked it up just to show that apologists for caste have always been there among Hindu supremacists. Just my curiousity- Has the DNA of upper caste supremacy muted into Islamophobia in the likes of DLN, dhimmi, Santosh Gairola etc in this forum?

And why is Vedic times -5000 years ago? That was the age of Indus valley civilization.

R. Saroja
Bombay, India
D-42/1
Jul 24, 2014
07:26 AM

"They dominate the intersections of world routes."

This may have been true back when international trade was mainly between Europe and China/India. Today, most trade is between Asian countries or with the US, so no one gives a rat's ass about trade routes through Arab countries.

"Their lands were the cradles of human civilizations and religions."

And so were China, India, Egypt, and many other places.

"These people have one faith, one language, one history and the same aspirations."

True, but unfortunately, that one faith is Islam, which Churchill correctly describes as the most retrograde force in the world.

"No natural barriers can isolate these people from one another …"

Their stupidity is more than enough for this.

"if, per chance, this nation were to be unified into one state, it would then take the fate of the world into its hands and would separate Europe from the rest of the world. "

They will never be united. Even if they are united, the "fate of the world" will depend on what the Americans, Chinese, and other do - not what the Arabs do. Separating Europe from the rest of the world is impossible in this Internet age. Even if it could be done, most of us wouldn't give a shi'ite.

Tariq Ali, sagging Marxist, really needs to get over himself. If it were not for the oil, no one would give a crap about Arabs or the Middle East. And as the world finds more natural gas and oil through fracking and we develop alternative fuels, we will care less and less about these retards.

Ram Lala
Kavutaram, India
D-41/55
Jul 24, 2014
07:16 AM

38  Mr. Ram
"The notion that fellow human beings, irrespective socio-economic status have to be treated with respect is, unfortunatey, not a core value for many people in India. "

well said

V.N.K.Murti Pattambi
PATTAMBI, India
D-40/54
Jul 24, 2014
07:07 AM

The shiv sena MPs can obviously force a change in their canteen without resorting to bare-faced thuggery and this is the real issue, and yet the low IQ sh*theads in the Indian media have managed to drag religion into it. What a effing great country.

Krupakar Kolbatla, Mumbai/Pittsburgh
D-39/53
Jul 24, 2014
07:05 AM

So according the journalist assholes in India (and these turds in outlook), force-feeding a hindu is okay because he is not likely to be fasting? What is so  effing special about whether this guy is fasting or not? Why make it an issue....these same slimy mofos in the english media will write odes about how divisive political parties are in India, when they are a few shades worse themselves.

Krupakar Kolbatla, Mumbai/Pittsburgh
D-38/52
Jul 24, 2014
06:07 AM

51/D

Whats InAName, if in a restaurant in San Francisco the food quality was terrible, would anyone engage in a similar behavior?  I assume the answer would be NO.  It would violate social norms regarding how people treat each other.  Civility that we take for granted here is often lacking in India.

Why is it not a big deal in India?  Irrespective of whether the MP was aware of the religious background of the employee or not, this behavior from an Indian member of parliament should not be acceptable.  Such conduct shows India in a bad light.

India is still a very class-based society (that has nothing to do with religion), where the rich and powerful can treat those below them as dirt.  The notion that fellow human beings, irrespective socio-economic status have to be treated with respect is, unfortunatey, not a core value for many people in India.  

Ram, Halifax
D-37/6
Jul 24, 2014
05:47 AM

"The Arab-Israeli conflict is not about religion, it is about land" - my paraphrase of CAIR pracharak's posts

1. Hamas's charter quotes the last prophecy of Mohammad that Judgement Day will not come until the Muslims rise up and kill all the Jews. Nothing there about land - it is about Muslims killing Jews because they are Jews. It is anti-Semitism of the most vicious and venomous kind and it is all about religion.

2. There is no shortage of land in Arab countries - if the Palestinians need land, there is plenty of available land in Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, Syria and other Arab countries. And there is nothing - nothing - that distinguishes "Palestinians" from other Arabs. There may be small differences in accents but the differences are miniscule.

3. The Arabs are not short of money to resettle the Palestinians. Your fellow Muslims in Saudi Barbaria, Kuwait, Oman, UAE and other countries have trillions of dollars that they could easily use to help these people. They prefer instead to use them to harass Israel and to divert their own people from their backwardness and barbarism.

In short, it is not about land, money or resources - it is about the pathological inability of Muslims to live in peace as equals with people of other religions, whether in the Gaza strip or in Pakistan or in Nigeria.

Ram Lala
Kavutaram, India
D-36/263
Jul 24, 2014
05:47 AM

The islamist bigot anwaar is just trolling you guys, just ignore the dishonest as*hole. You really think this islamist sh*thead is an expert on hinduism or its history, being the islamist CAIR bigot that he is.

Krupakar Kolbatla
Mumbai/Pittsburgh, India
D-35/4
Jul 24, 2014
05:38 AM

And this is when the stupid turds in the BJP have  a majority in the Lok Sabha -- these losers can't even pretend they are practising "coalition dharma".

Krupakar Kolbatla, Mumbai/Pittsburgh
D-34/3
Jul 24, 2014
05:37 AM

We are all living  "Nehruvian aspiration" in India today -- dirt poor and effed in 100 ways.

Whichever set of rat bas**tard bureaucrats in the MEA/Foreign Ministry adviced  on the UN vote need to be taken out and beaten with well worn slippers. WTF is this Modi govt. doing? This was supposed to be different from the pussilanimous worthless behaviour of the UPA govt. when it came to appeasing the arab a*holes.  But Manmohan and Sonia may as well be running country if this is the kind of image India is to present of itself.

Krupakar Kolbatla, Mumbai/Pittsburgh
D-33/262
Jul 24, 2014
04:22 AM

" This has to be taken with a grain of salt"

I do not care whether you take it with a grain of a salt or a bushel of it. Whether you like it or not, in insular, tribal societies, you had chiefs and warriors and workers and priests. They belonged to the same tribe, the same ethnic stock. No reason to make the Aryans an exception. 

Arya means noble. Not only Iran, even North India (includes present day Afghanistan and Pakistan) was known as Aryavarta, the abode of the Aryans. Persia and India are contiguous. What does that prove?

That Iranians and Indians are cousins? All of us are cousins having descended from the homo sapien mutant species that originated 200,000 years ago in East Africa.

Knowing your inability to digest the truth, I am sure that you will come up with some specious argument or another. I have nothing further to add, enough said.

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-32/51
Jul 24, 2014
04:20 AM

>> Did I say ABSOLVE?

You said

If they want better food go to a restaurant and pay for it.

Meaning that they should be satisfied with the food and service they are receiving (or at least stop complaining), and the caterer has no responsibility of providing the kind of products and service that might be expected.

>> Assaulting a lowly employee is what I am objecting to. Lawlessness, irrespective of the provocation, cannot be condoned.

And that is fine. However, bullying of a low level employee is common, and often much more severe than in this case. While no one can be expected to speak up on all occasions, at the risk of being labeled insensitive, and communal, I'll say that by the low standards of our feudalistic, entitlement based society, this is a very minor incident.

I will change that stand if the MP knew that he was force feeding a Muslim observing Roza. Such action shall then change from bullying to hate. Until such time, I shall treat this as a relatively minor incident, insensitive though it may sound.

Whats InAName
San Francisco, United States
D-31/50
Jul 24, 2014
04:03 AM

"DOES NOT ABSOLVE the caterer from providing decent food."

Did I say ABSOLVE?

Two weeks back, I ate a meal while traveling by rail and ended up with a bout of severe gastroenteritis that laid me low for 2 days.

Let me repeat, I am not justifying the quality of the food or denying the rights of a consumer.

Assaulting a lowly employee is what I am objecting to. Lawlessness, irrespective of the provocation, cannot be condoned.

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-30/306
Jul 24, 2014
04:01 AM

hello outlook 

It is a strange problem. I consciously logged out of outlook magazine account ( by pressing the logout option) . After some time, i again opened the outlook magazine website, i found myslef logged in automatically ( without entering username/ password). I have checked it twice that outlook website logs in automatically unless i have deleted the cookies/ history. I use a shared internet and computer. It is some security issue with outlook website. 

Don Quixote
Rody, India
D-29/49
Jul 24, 2014
03:41 AM

>> If they want better food go to a restaurant and pay for it.

No.

It is the responsibility of the caterer to provide decent food based on the price he has contracted. If he is not providing a product or service commensurate with the amount he is charging, he should be hauled up. One can certainly criticize the manner of it. However, corruption by MPs, their attitude, or the communal color given to the incident, DOES NOT ABSOLVE the caterer from providing decent food.

If that quality is not good enough for the MPs, then they should eat out.

Whats InAName
San Francisco, United States
D-28/4
Jul 24, 2014
03:35 AM

>> BJP seems to have a monopoly on pettiness and small-mindedness

Of course. Let's pretend that Congress's campaign against Amitabh for daring to be Gujarat's brand ambassador, tearing down the posters of his , and even Abhishek's films by Congressi goons never happened.

Then we can safely blame BJP for having a monopoly on pettiness and small-mindedness, and all shall be fine with the world.

Whats InAName
San Francisco, United States
D-27/261
Jul 24, 2014
03:26 AM


D.L.Narayan,

>>  "four varnas were populated by people of the same ethnic stock"

This has to be taken with a grain of salt. By the way, regarding the word "Aryan", it is interesting that the word "Iran" means "home of the Aryans".


 

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-26/48
Jul 24, 2014
03:22 AM

Shiv Sena vandalism is contemptible.

But what about the conduct of the media and the regular secular mob? Their concerted attempt to turn this into a story of Muslim victimization in "Hindu" India is an even bigger and and even more contemptible act of vandalism.

The seculars will not rest until they have killed and buried secularism.

Pradip Singh, stafford
D-25/1
Jul 24, 2014
03:22 AM

"Finance Minister Arun Jaitley spelt out his intentions to bring about "civility" in tax regime, rationalise the subsidy system, maintain low taxes and boost infrastructure and housing to expand economy while providing more for social sector programmes."

This is what it means. Increase FISCAL DEFICITS  to 30% of GDP and grow the economy by the same% GDP because, (FISCAL deficit -TRADE DEFICIT)  = NET PRIVATE SAVINGS. NOte that FISCAL DEFICIT Is an infinite resource. It is also free. The GDP will grow by 30%. In a few years poverty will have vanished. In the meantime increase the health care budget by a factor of five EVERYWHERE.

Parthasarathy Shakkottai, Long Beach
D-24/47
Jul 24, 2014
03:21 AM

@ WIAN - " The quality of food at other locations, including one served to kids in their constituencies can't be used as a justification for either low quality of food, or MPs taking umbrage to it."

I am not justifying anything. My limited point is that these MPs, used to freebies, expect to be served 5 star meals in a sarkari establishment. (The IRCTC serves lousy food to millions of passengers who travel in trains.) If they want better food go to a restaurant and pay for it.

As far as food served to kids is concerned, it is well known that a part of the resources meant for the kids ends up with crooked politicians and bureaucrats. Have we ever seen politicians agitate for an improvement of the quality of food served to these kids?

The sense of entitlement and the tendency to take law into their hands by arrogant politicians upsets me no end, does not matter which party they belong to. They forget that they are servants, not masters.

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-23/3
Jul 24, 2014
03:08 AM

Evolution seems to have chosen the lifespan of the human species to be a factor of the age of the young of the human specie, say, three times. Nature is only interested in the survival of the species, not individuals. It is more economical to produce healthy young rather than healthy old. For example salmon get old rapidly and die in large numbers after they spawn. This is for a specie that is almost hard wired with abilities required for survival, no teaching being involved. The big cats need to be taught to hunt. The humans need lots of time to learn.

It is pointless to live unnecessarily long.

Parthasarathy Shakkottai
Long Beach, United States
D-22/4
Jul 24, 2014
03:08 AM

 
Ram Lala,

>> "so where are the Muslim Jon Stewarts who go on TV and criticize Muslim double standards and Muslim atrocities".

Good point! At this time they are mostly on websites and blogs. A faithful copy of Jon Stewart's satirical TV program "The Daily Show" was very popular on Egyptian televsion, but President Sisi got it cancelled. Hindus do have Jon Stewarts, but you won't find even one Jon Stewart among Hindutvawadi geese. You will however find many hate merchants like yourself among them.

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-21/46
Jul 24, 2014
03:04 AM

This Shiv Sena thug needs a boot up his rear end for abusing the staff, Muslim, Hindu or Hungarian.

Meanwhile, in the lands of Islam, here is how Ramzan is being observed:

"An Iranian judge sentenced a Christian man to have his lips burnt with a cigarette for eating during the day in the Muslim holy month of Ramadan.

The barbaric punishment was carried out in public in a square in the city of Kermanshah.

Five other Muslim men were also flogged in public with 70 lashes for not fasting during Ramadan, the city's deputy governor Ali Ashraf Karami said.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2702774/Christian-sentenced-Iranian-judge-lips-burnt-cigarette-eating-Ramadan.html#ixzz38KTq6qPq

*****

No doubt Anwaar will be along soon to tell us these people too are sad misunderstanders of Islam.

Ram Lala, Kavutaram
D-20/1
Jul 24, 2014
02:59 AM

While it is true that Egypt had paid a heavy price while fighting for the Palestinian cause, there is no denying the fact that it has also abandoned the cause in 1979 when it became a client state of the US. 

During the brief presidency of Morsi of the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas received a lot of support, both political and financial. When Morsi was deposed, Hamas was severely impacted and the general instability in the region made things worse. A beleaguered Hamas was forced to patch up with arch rival Fatah. However, Israel rejected the Fatah-Hamas accord because the Hamas had refused to accept Israel's right to exist.

In order to survive, Hamas then embarked on a strategy of provoking Israel and playing victim after the brutal retaliation that was sure to follow. Israel however does not buckle, even under extreme pressure. It is this strength that has enabled it to survive all these years in an extremely hostile environment.

Peace will return to Palestine after Israel wipes out the Hamas from its stronghold in Gaza. Hopefully, the Palestinian Authority and the State of Israel will reach a peace accord and the Arabs of Palestinians will benefit from peace and from being a part of the richest economy in the region (apart from the Oil rich Gulf sheikhdoms).

The Arabs and the Jews must put the acrimony of the past behind them and learn to co-exist to ensure a peaceful future for the generations to come.

D.L.Narayan, Visakhapatnam
D-19/5
Jul 24, 2014
02:59 AM

 
Ram Lala,

>>>> "The Arab-Israeli war is not a racial conflict. It is about land." 

>> "It is about religion."

Absolutely false! See how your hatefulness has destroyed your mind!

 



 

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-18/3
Jul 24, 2014
02:56 AM


BJP seems to have a monopoly on pettiness and small-mindedness.
 

Anwaar, Dallas
D-17/2
Jul 24, 2014
02:51 AM

The demigods were therefore sterile. Read any puranas! They also consumed no food.

Parthasarathy Shakkottai
Long Beach, United States
D-16/2
Jul 24, 2014
02:48 AM


India has guts as well as some Nehruvian aspiration to transcend!
 

Anwaar, Dallas
D-15/45
Jul 24, 2014
02:43 AM

The (dis)honourable MPs were upset at the quality of the subsidised meal served to them. Are they aware of the quality of food served to children in the schools and social welfare hostels located in their constituencies?

One cannot help but get disgusted

It is prefectly okay to feel disgusted. However, the quality of food at other locations, including one served to kids in their constituencies can't be used as a justification for either low quality of food, or MPs taking umbrage to it.

Lot of Indians don't have access to toilets. Is that a justification to allow the toilets in Maharashtra Sadan (or other places) to be in a filthy state? There is lot of corruption. Is it okay to allow a little theft or a small bribe by a low level govt official?

Oh, and there is lot of crime in the country, including against children. Then why feel disgusted over a little bullying incident against an adult?

It was a bullying incident, and despite all the hungama, a relatively small one. Had the victim been a Hindu, it would never have made any news at all. Watching the video, it doesn't seem at all, that he knew that the victim was a Muslim, or that he was observing a fast. Maybe he was told this. It's difficult to decipher what was being said in all the noise and shouting. However, at no point did I feel that he was trying to insult the religious feelings of the guy.

Sure. Turn the heat on SS, and by association BJP. But don't fall into the trap of giving a communal color to a perfectly "secular" issue. I think many of the "Sanghis" on this forum are feeling the need to display their secular credentials, and are going over the top.

Whats InAName, San Francisco
D-14/44
Jul 24, 2014
02:35 AM



>>  "The MP's version is that he was protesting the quality of the food and was unaware of the religion of the staff into whose mouth he tried to stuff the chapati.''

Shoving chapati down the mouth of a Hindu worker would also be criminal. Our pooh-bahs think it is okay to slap or shove or shout at or push chapatis down the throats of those they consider to be their "inferiors". We have all seen videos of Rajnath Singh slapping his security commando last year. Are servants and aides not entitled to any dignity?

Anwaar, Dallas
D-13/2
Jul 24, 2014
02:16 AM

" Sick" (Post 1)

In Telangana state, there are eminent sportspersons like Sindhu, Gopichand and VVS Laxman. They won't do because their parents are of Andhra origin even though they have lived in Hyderabad all their lives. 

Students in Telangana are not eligible for tuition fee subsidies or even seats in Medical/Engineering if their families have not been living in Telangana in 1956.

Yes, Sania Mirza is a bone fide celebrity; she has brought laurels to the country, is glamorous and will be an excellent brand ambassador.

However, Sania Mirza was born in Mumbai, her father played cricket for Mumbai. Had she not been a celebrity, she would have been treated as an "outsider" ineligible for a seat in the institutions there or for a government job. How can Telangana claim her as its own while it treats kids who spent all their lives in Hyderabad as "outsiders" and seeks to deprive them of higher education and jobs in city where they have spent all their lives? Now, that is sick.

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-12/1
Jul 24, 2014
02:09 AM

The stupid mo#$#$uckers in the Indian bureaucracy are again moralizing in the UN -- Modi is letting these bureaucrat morons run the show, and this is not to his credit. 

But then again, who really gives a sh*t about the worthless UN HR resolution given that the UN itself is a toothless, worthless organization that needs to die out and expunged from the face of this planet.

Krupakar Kolbatla, Mumbai/Pittsburgh
D-11/43
Jul 24, 2014
02:09 AM

What possibly may happen is, Maharashtra Sadan (and many such Hindu eateries) will decide that hiring Muslims could mean trouble.  They may not give reason but decide such thing.  Who is helping or hurting who? 

P.B. Joshipura, Suffolk, Virginia
D-10/4
Jul 24, 2014
02:04 AM

"The Arab-Israeli war is not a racial conflict. It is about land." CAIR smoke-blower

It is about religion - specifically, about the inability of Muslims to live peacefully with other religions, whether it is in the Islamic Republic of Krapistan or the People's Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (PISS).

Ram Lala
Kavutaram, India
D-9/3
Jul 24, 2014
02:00 AM

"Jon Stewart, a Jew, has in fact been a consistent critic of American double standards and Israeli excesses. He puts our Hindutvawadi geese to shame!" CAIR pracharak

So where are the Muslim Jon Stewarts who go on TV and criticize Muslim double standards and Muslim atrocities instead of providing cover for extremists like CAIR does by screaming Islamophobia anytime anyone criticizes Muslims or Islam?

Or are you Muslim moderates a bunch of scared geese who don't dare to stick your necks out because you might be beheaded by the many misunderstanders of Islam?

Ram Lala
Kavutaram, India
D-8/13
Jul 24, 2014
01:54 AM

"At least 82 people were killed on Wednesday in two bombings in the northern Nigerian city of Kaduna targeting an opposition leader and a moderate Muslim cleric."

If Prarthana writes one article in response to the killing of four Muslim children by Israelis, how many articles will she write in response to this deliberate murder of 82 people by Muslim extremists?

Answer: zero.

Because for our leftwing journalists, murders committed by Muslims don't matter.

Ram Lala
Kavutaram, India
D-7/42
Jul 24, 2014
01:40 AM

@ The Contrarian - "Can some one enlighten ?"

Can't enlighten but can offer an opinion or two.

1. The muted reaction from the BJP could be due to the forthcoming elections in Maharashtra. Support of the SS is crucial there. When a BJP MP crossed the line in the Lok Sabha, the party was quick to make him apologise.

2. It is possible that Vichare was unaware that it was Ramzan and that he was functionally illiterate and hence did not read the name of the IRCTC supervisor. He was just being his usual roguish self and his behaviour had no religious overtones.

3. Was the whole episode pre-planned? What was a TV crew doing in the dining hall of the Maharashtra Sadan?

4. The (dis)honourable MPs were upset at the quality of the subsidised meal served to them. Are they aware of the quality of food served to children in the schools and social welfare hostels located in their constituencies?

One cannot help but get disgusted.

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-6/1
Jul 24, 2014
01:28 AM

I support the UK government. We do not need public holidays any more. If one allows holidays for Eid, Diwali, then in few years time Sikhs and Buddhists will alo ask for holidays. It is better than none would have it.