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D-103/1
Sep 02, 2014
07:41 PM

I am sure Mamata does not expect an alliance with CPM but she is deliberately trying to woo the voters of CPM into her fold.

It is a smart strategy to weaken the CPM-but it might end up strengthening the BJP.

Akash Verma, Chennai
D-102/6
Sep 02, 2014
07:28 PM

"India is not only the world's largest democracy; we are also the world's largest hypocrisy."
A wise quote by late father of Sashi Taroor, Member of parliament.
 

V.N.K.Murti Pattambi
PATTAMBI, India
D-101/4
Sep 02, 2014
06:41 PM
Outlook is the choupal for ani BJP & Anti modi forces to air their fart
madhukar nikam
Hyderabad, India
D-100/113
Sep 02, 2014
06:41 PM

DL Narayan >>> Buddhism flourished for a thousand years, much longer than Islam (500 BCE ~ 600 CE approximately. To say that the teachings were rejected and banished is ignorance of the highest order ...

I compliment you on your rejoinder and would like to add that it is GROSSLY incorrect to state that Lord Buddha and his teachings were rejected by followers of the Vedic/Sanatan Dharma - Hindus. In fact the reasons for its decline in India while it flourished in the rest of Asia lie somewhere else. Despite its endorsement as state religion by Ashoka and later during the Kushan period why it almost disappeared in India by 600-700 AD has been well documented in the great Chinese traveler Hsuan Tsang’s narratives and research work as carried out by a number of various scholars on this subject including Dr. BR Ambedkar.

In summary they were: the withdrawal of royal patronage and indifference of Hindu kings; sectarian/internal schisms and corruption within their various Sanghas; the defeat of the Buddhists by the great theologian Shankaracharya in public debates leading to their denigration and harrassment; characteristic tendency of Hinduism, or rather Brahmanism, to absorb its opponents; and, later, the Muslim invasions.

Ambedkar, whose animosity towards Hinduism is palpable, was nonetheless firmly of the view that Islam dealt Buddhism a death blow. He wrote “the greatest disaster that befell the religion of Buddha in India …The sword of Islam fell heavily upon the priestly class. It perished or it fled outside India. Nobody remained alive to keep the flame of Buddhism burning.”

Ref: Babasaheb Ambedkar, Writings and Speeches (Bombay: Government of Maharashtra, 1987), Vol. 3, pp. 232-33.
 

The Contrarian
London, United Kingdom
D-99/1
Sep 02, 2014
06:39 PM

Why are the Chinese so insecure?

Akash Verma, Chennai
D-98/112
Sep 02, 2014
06:34 PM

I read the comments and there seems to be a misunderstanding about what love-jihad is.

It is not a muslim marrying hindu. It is NOT even about a hindu converting to Islam after marriage voluntarily.

It is about FORCED CONVERSION of a hindu to Islam. That is the case in most inter-religious marriages and that is what is causing friction.

Akash Verma
Chennai, India
D-97/10
Sep 02, 2014
06:32 PM

I hope people in Jammu and Ladakh regions vote wisely for the BJP(and not behave like voters of Amethi). It would be wonderful if BJP wins all the seats in Jammu and Ladakh. The hold Kashmiris have must be broken.

Akash Verma
Chennai, India
D-96/1
Sep 02, 2014
06:26 PM

That is because Aroon Poorie has not offered him a job yet.

Akash Verma, Chennai
D-95/15
Sep 02, 2014
06:24 PM
Akash Verma, Chennai
D-94/111
Sep 02, 2014
06:15 PM

"Where exactly have I lied?"

In Anwaarspeak, inconvenient facts are lies.

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-93/15
Sep 02, 2014
06:06 PM

 Whats there for getting perturbed,The Yogi will have his say done.

Thats a devlopment never the less.

As it is a good 90% live in poverty and deprivation,there problems will be over for good.

There is no meaning to life with no hope ,no money and no future.

For those like Karan Thapar asking why the PM and HM havent said a word,will it serve any purpose.No.

The truth is Muslims have lost out these last 20 years when the economy grew and Millions moved up the economic ladder.

Today Millions of youth who spend time in congregations must ask there parents why did they breed this many when they did not have the resources to cater.

But as a freind off mine did say its education and acess to health which determines numbers and a survey among educated and white collar Muslims the average number of kids in a family are max off 2.

But among the poor and deprived they are 3.2.Thats no way to go about dealing with life and changing times.

The Yogi and his outburst is no attempt to disrupt peace and Law and Order as per Law today.

Masood and co did  the same and faced flak and jail.Justified no doubt.

In a Nation were Law is supreme,everyone should be dealt with in the same way.

No point making sense of Law ,when people have lost it completely

  

harun
chennai, India
D-92/110
Sep 02, 2014
06:00 PM
 >> I stopped reading after this. This woman drags caste in order to attack a person she does not like(discovers some brahminical tendencies) and now poses as though she is broadminded. What crap!!

It is actually a well calculated strategy of Islamists like the author and likes of Anwaar and Muslims in general to point to the so called upper/lower caste divide. It serves many purposes like intantly putting Hindus on backfoot, trying to give a sense of compassion for so called dalits from a Muslim. Remember Anwaar's comment that RSS just needs a whipping boy, earlier it were dalits and now it's muslims. From a Muslim/Jihadi point of view, dalits are the low hanging fruits to convert first by drawing a wedge. Don't believe me? The great welfare oriented souls in Krapistan does a separate census for these soon to be harvested souls:

>> The Pakistan Census separates Schedule Castes from the main body of Hindus who make up a further 0.25% of national population. SOURCE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduism_in_Pakistan

Need I even mention the welfare credentials of Pakis? But the point is every Muslim, including Anwaar and the author, views Hindus from this prism which helps them see them closer to their dream of ultimately converting all in Ummah, starting with low hanging fruits!

  >> There are criminals everywhere who rape and abduct women. If there is a historical profile to be used, it would be upper-caste men and/or Muslims who controlled lands and would just pick up and devour women from the lower castes or social strata In one shot, the author puts the so called upper castes (who are they, which caste?) in same league as lustful followers of Quran who raped and killed millions in middle ages, guided by hateful philosophy of Islam! Divide, convert to Islam and rule is the motto and ultimte dream of Anwaars and author and Jihadists!

What has love Jihad got to do with caste equation? Well unless, they put some upper caste Hindus in same light as their lustful ancestors, the cause of Allah is difficult to defend and propagate amongst Kafirs!

Bangalorean
Bangalore, India
D-91/109
Sep 02, 2014
05:57 PM
>> I stopped reading after this. This woman drags caste in order to attack a person she does not like(discovers some brahminical tendencies) and now poses as though she is broadminded. What crap!!   It is actually a well calculated strategy of Islamists like the author and likes of Anwaar and Muslims in general to point to the so called upper/lower caste divide. It serves many purposes like intantly putting Hindus on backfoot, trying to give a sense of compassion for so called dalits from a Muslim. Remember Anwaar's comment that RSS just needs a whipping boy, earlier it were dalits and now it's muslims.   From a Muslim/Jihadi point of view, dalits are the low hanging fruits to convert first by drawing a wedge. Don't believe me? The great welfare oriented souls in Krapistan does a separate census for these soon to be harvested souls:   >> The Pakistan Census separates Schedule Castes from the main body of Hindus who make up a further 0.25% of national population. SOURCE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduism_in_Pakistan   Need I even mention the welfare credentials of Pakis? But the point is every Muslim, including Anwaar and the author, views Hindus from this prism which helps them see them closer to their dream of ultimately converting all in Ummah, starting with low hanging fruits!     >> There are criminals everywhere who rape and abduct women. If there is a historical profile to be used, it would be upper-caste men and/or Muslims who controlled lands and would just pick up and devour women from the lower castes or social strata   In one shot, the author puts the so called upper castes (who are they, which caste?) in same league as lustful followers of Quran who raped and killed millions in middle ages, guided by hateful philosophy of Islam! Divide, convert to Islam and rule is the motto and ultimte dream of Anwaars and author and Jihadists!    What has love Jihad got to do with caste equation? Well unless, they put some upper caste Hindus in same light as their lustful ancestors, the cause of Allah is difficult to defend and propagate amongst Kafirs!    
Bangalorean
Bangalore, India
D-90/3
Sep 02, 2014
05:42 PM

"Sonia, Rahul Not to Campaign for UP Bypolls"

Congress hits back with a master strategy.

K.Suresh, Bangalore
D-89/108
Sep 02, 2014
05:34 PM

"Where exactly have I lied?"

Anwaar's method is to call names without giving any evidence. He accuses me of lying when I quoted Obama as saying that he does not have a strategy for ISIS. That is what he actually said in the press conference. But I am a liar. WHy? For simply quoting Obama.

That is the level of Anwaar's intelligence.

Akash Verma
Chennai, India
D-88/107
Sep 02, 2014
05:27 PM

"Some of us were raised in homes that celebrated Id along with Diwali, Holi and Christmas and that is what we pass on to our children, hopefully along with other convictions."

I stopped reading after this. This woman drags caste in order to attack a person she does not like(discovers some brahminical tendencies) and now poses as though she is broadminded. What crap!!

Akash Verma
Chennai, India
D-87/1
Sep 02, 2014
05:25 PM

Thanks to MMS and PC!

Akash Verma, Chennai
D-86/14
Sep 02, 2014
05:23 PM

Gifting Vivekananda was proper. He was the first(or one of the first) who wanted Indian youngsters to visit Japan and learn from them. And what he wrote about Japan's character in 1893 holds good even today.

Akash Verma, Chennai
D-85/2
Sep 02, 2014
05:19 PM

There is nothing wrong in NOT campaigning but Congress has to be braindead to announce it. There are things which you simply shovel aside.

Akash Verma, Chennai
D-84/13
Sep 02, 2014
05:17 PM

"I am sorry to say that I see absolutely no sign of any such intention on the part of your Government."

Modi will surely tweet on Nov 14th. So dont panic.

Akash Verma
Chennai, India
D-83/4
Sep 02, 2014
05:12 PM

PC is absolutely right. If UPA had still continued in power, the market sentiment would have hit rock bottom. As such, UPA did a great service by losing.

Akash Verma, Chennai
D-82/13
Sep 02, 2014
05:06 PM

Modi surely knows how to irritate the succus.

Akash Verma, Chennai
D-81/2
Sep 02, 2014
05:05 PM

I liked the way Modi needled China in his visit to Japan. Good job.

China's strategy is encircling India thro' Pak, Burma etc. India must start drawing circles around China. We must have excellent relations with Japan and S Korea and Vietnam to stop the Chinese.

China is our number one enemy.

Akash Verma, Chennai
D-80/6
Sep 02, 2014
04:58 PM

"Thanks to MMS and PC!"

The credit must actually go to Nehru, Aurangzeb and Akbar.

Akash Verma, Chennai
D-79/9
Sep 02, 2014
04:54 PM

Kashmir is a muslim majority state and see the condition of minorities there. Excellent example as to why muslims should not be allowed to become a majority anywhere.

Akash Verma
Chennai, India
D-78/8
Sep 02, 2014
04:52 PM

"So if the BJP comes to power in Kashmir, Hussain says, Kash­miris wouldn’t have to go a long way towards achieving their dream of azadi. “The BJP would do that.”"

Is this the only argument the succus have? They are more pathetic than I thought.

"Shakeel Qalandar, a businessman and member of the Kashmir Centre for Social and Development Studies, says the ‘Mission 44+’ seems to be “one of the sinister designs of the BJP to achieve its so-called assimilation of Kashmir with a Hindu union to erase our cultural, political and social identity”.

Excellent reason for why BJP SHOULD WIN.

Akash Verma
Chennai, India
D-77/14
Sep 02, 2014
04:29 PM

"If they break 1000 temples 1 will be ...."

K.Suresh
Bangalore, India
D-76/12
Sep 02, 2014
04:06 PM

The lack of primary education will be the "albotross" across our neck sooner rather than later. Plenty of signs already. Since the poor and powerless are at the receiving end of this, other than nice words, election slogans and creation of rights on paper, we aren't making a dent.

RTE is of course an important part of the solution (so a necessary part) but by no means sufficient. Sufficiency can come in ONLY if government schools are made functional (George of London - English isn't the reason they are dysfunctional).

For me the only effective and quick solution to functioning Government schools is to mandate that if you work in the Government (politicians, bureaucrats) your progeny much attend the nearest Government school (of course if you don't want this mandate you are free to not work in the government and free the space for someone who is fine with the mandate; a side affect might be minimum government too). Ask yourselves by Kendariya Vidyalayas work.

As regards RTE, I agree with Atul that for "rights" to work they will have to be fought for - only the paper on which it is typed comes on a platter and even more so in an extremely unequal society like ours (only we can think of a iit-iim-matrimony.com) - we are near perfect heirarchical beings - it is not just about caste - we can create heirarchies of discrimination at the drop of a hat. First thing is to reduce ways for schools to wiggle out of. Allowing for minority schools to be exempt is the first hole to plug.

Arun Maheshwari
Bangalore, India
D-75/7
Sep 02, 2014
03:24 PM

It is ridiculous to call it a "Reopening" just because it has the same name and geographical location.

K.Suresh, Bangalore
D-74/106
Sep 02, 2014
03:24 PM

@ Anwaar - " You omitted the second half of the story and produced an irrelevant response! "

Why should I comment on Mr. Mitra's Ramadan fasts? I do not know why he blames himself for the demolition of a long defunct mosque built on the ruins of an ancient temple and what useful purpose is served by observing an Islamic ritual?

If you think that his act is exemplary and worthy of emulation, will you do something similar in atonement for the destruction of the Bamiyan statues by your co-religionists?

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-73/12
Sep 02, 2014
02:13 PM

" Muslims do not reject any verses."

So the "sword verses" are an integral part of Islam. 

"It is you guys who conviniently reject Manusmriti!"

We do not reject the Manu smriti. It is a part of Hinduism. We however realise that portions of it are no longer relevant 2500 years after it was written. 

BTW, convenient is spelt with an E after the V. You have misspelt it far too often to dismiss it as a typo.

Muslims do re-interepret and re-contextualize."

Glad to know that Quran is not immutable and eternal, independent of the contextual situation. Is it the mainstream view disseminated to the faithful during the friday sermons?

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-72/1
Sep 02, 2014
02:06 PM
In defense of Rahul Gandhi

Rahul Gandhi should take not only solace but be heartened by the interest, both within the party and the key opposition party and the veiled supporters in form of think-tank groups and forums, that he arouses even when his party has lost in recent polls.  It is an unprecedented interest in a ‘person’ who is reportedly reticent, backbencher and has not shown any remarkable affinity for any ambitious project.

Rahul Gandhi is being riled for reasons for which any other person would have been relegated in obscurity in normal circumstances. But such is admirer club that they continue the list of accomplishments according to them, his lack of ambition, lack of leadership skills, obeisance to his mother- virtue when his opponent makes a photo-op moment, lack of organisational skills, lack of oratory and inability to handle defeat, his lineage, and even his looks and yet find prominence in daily news. For Rahul-baiters, there is no virtue that is good in itself and which does not turn into a vice if seen in his company.

The advices, suggestions are so many and so constant flowing that if he tries to follow them or even stack them for references, he will run out of a space for a large library and funds. As for the interest for the advices, it is unfathomable. Few people, or a set of people have exhibited such sense of charity and altruistic motive.

The man is held responsible for failure of his party when he did not hold an office, he is held responsible for showcasing ineptitude in not holding any office, he is accused of holding a party position when the opposition party has identified and can suggest several deserving candidate for the post from his own party. If he is thinking of his (so-called) re-surrection, he must forget it, though the only people who are talking of such a proposal is the charitable well-wishers who would want their enemy to have resurrection so as to have sequels. One can’t think of any other motive than philanthropic. There are numerous astrologers who have predicted that he should have no such dream of holding any public office now and at least for ten years as the current incumbent has such strong chart for a decade. Would the prediction would have fifteen years, if the Congress party was ruling for the last fifteen years, the guess remains. Besides, it does help that in ten years, he will be 54 and the current incumbent became chief minister nearly that age.  How can one help a person, who is even forsaken by planets also.  

Redemption, thus, is impossible. It is a different matter that he is damned if he does and damned if he does not. That could apply to as lowly thing as sneezing. What would have been the response had Rahul Gandhi uttered those '56 inch chest' words.

This concerted campaign to malign, vilify and subjugate a person should be hailed as one of the successful strategies and such effort should be appreciated for managing a continuous, sustained, multi-pronged and layered effort to keep the key opposition party away from horizon. ‘’

The machinations that can be discerned, keep the pressure through media, the neo-right wing intelligentsia always highlighting the so-called ineptitude, which surprisingly, is virtue many a times in other quarters, party leaders harping on the (non-existent) coup, which in their own party are termed as democratic voices, and thirdly, generating/ lodging legal cases as to keep the person/ group engaged in activities other than usual.

Now we must look at his effort at making his party lose election. If it were not for Modi, one would believe that Rahul Gandhi made successful attempts and efforts to get his party the lowest denomination in its history. No one deserves the credit. Thanks to Modi, the credit is shared. 

Rahul Gandhi and his team have to understand that such tautological zinger and vitriolic campaign against him will continue and should be heartened that it displays some weakness and insecurity at certain levels to be such a glorified target.

As for losing elections, not part of the agenda of this article but unavoidable in references, the truth is the party divided in itself, in old political satraps, neo- old satraps in form of Manmohan Singh and gang, new turks and the fren-enemies coalition and the hyper fren-enemies  outside support that went awry with the in-fighting and thus resulted in a business model that was too carried forward and not getting hold of their own efforts’ results. of course, that does not take away the share of the blame as the leader of the party.

The rising middle class and the purchasing power of the burgeoning middle class has changed considerably as a result of supernormal growth seen in the first tenure of UPA (for baiters, the growth could have been due to efforts of earlier regime) and Sixth Pay Commission and NREGA/MNERGA schemes. Undoubtedly, a large section has moved into a set wherein the survival was not a question but quality of life was. See the communism is largely over in rising middle class. Yes, Rahul Gandhi and his team failed to read this and unconsciously undermined the aspirations of middle middle class. Cue to the point, when Spurius Melius, a very wealthy Roman citizen, laid in supply of corn at his expense to feed people at the time of famine, the Senate sentenced him to death on the cause that he is gaining such favours with commons and that his bounty might have dangerous consequences. 

The surge in civil society on affluent middle and upper middle class and welfare groups that fed on the welfare state program/ drive of the party and finally ended on feeding itself in some cases. This is a lesson, well learned by the incumbent, who were tracking the trend and have decisively ended the feeder-feeding program in name of social justice and empowerment though many/ several of the programs are highly justified and warranted.

A man is a measure of all things. Surely, the measure adds to be better. The political cycle, like business cycle demands a change now and then. Democracy needs a supply of discipline in form of a mild-despotism wherein one person has a say in everything, appointing personal assistants to how one’s colleague dresses and addresses to policy guidelines that can be as menial as to when and how to address media and running the ministries. Rahul Gandhi must have learnt to take professional downside of the vocation-politics but if he believes that this is ending any sooner, he will be highly mistaken.

Diogenes, delhi
D-71/105
Sep 02, 2014
02:03 PM

100% Blame must be put on Hindu girls..How come they expect "Ek Duje Ke liye" kind of Love from Jihadis so is the rise of Love Jihad...

Jaykumar
Ahmedabad, India
D-70/1
Sep 02, 2014
02:00 PM

 The team at Outlook is fortunate that no member of the Raheja family is inclined towards journalism ! 

ashok lal
mumbai, India
D-69/5
Sep 02, 2014
01:56 PM

Every word in the column is probably true, but there are inner defences in each society as well. They consist of creating a tolerant, humane society, with genuine respect for minority rights. Also education and economic empowerment. None of this stands in the way of the security establishment doing its duty to the highest standards of professionalism. 

ashok lal
mumbai, India
D-68/8
Sep 02, 2014
01:55 PM
It is surprising to read again and again the fact/ reason finding effort by Congress for the loss in this election. Though directed at Rahul Gandhi, one can assure that no one would have won this election, at the nth minute. The Congress/ UPA government started decimating itself right from 2012, which accelerated into a no-return situation at the start of 2014. Some of it could have been saved but most of it was lost much earlier. The reasons are several but few to be noted: economy, corporate and media.  The presence of governance came to be at nil and Dr Manmohan Singh's silence exacerbated it. It was unusual and stupefying to understand this abhorrence for communication but this contributed a great deal for the exasperation of even the staunchest of the supporters. Economy slowed down on global and man-made so called policy paralysis, also complicated by previous point. Gentrification- It was unusual for the ruling party to become victim of its own creation as it failed to follow up and understand the lifestyle cycle. it had failed to communicate economic and business cycle (ruined largely by Dr Manmohan and his team by high interest rate and continual criticism of fiscal deficit program of their own government). Gentrification infuses a lifestyle changes with community, religion, and other identity rise and a party must be able to communicate and address this group. Unconsciously undermining the burgeoning middle 'middle' class. The party largely ignored the burgeoning middle 'middle' class and no point in stating that they voted not in favour Demography: The party should have identified that a large section of young voters will be joining the milieu and 'Catch them Young" has always been the theme of the other party Four hostile newspapers are more to be feared than a thousand bayonets

The French complain of everything and always - The middle class complains and complains about everything, corruption, inflation, road, rail and others...no effort was seen in addressing this. again goes to poor media management

Civil society surge- the civil society that was fended earlier with a socialist program agenda started feeding itself seeing the space available.

Large scale campaigning with think tanks and others- Understandably, gentrification and economic boom resulted in a class which can fend itself without a job and had enough time for social cause. besides, the think tank groups and a sustained multi-layered campaign was too much for the traditional show.

One must change tactics every ten years if one wishes to maintain one’s superiority - It was a decade and the tactics had to change/

Coalition=Frenemies

To say that the party lost only owing to its campaigning is too naïve. and to place it on one person again is entirely naïve. The only naivety or error in the campaigning was the interview to Times Now.
Diogenes, delhi
D-67/7
Sep 02, 2014
01:55 PM
It is surprising to read again and again the fact/ reason finding effort by Congress for the loss in this election. Though directed at Rahul Gandhi, one can assure that no one would have won this election, at the nth minute. The Congress/ UPA government started decimating itself right from 2012, which accelerated into a no-return situation at the start of 2014. Some of it could have been saved but most of it was lost much earlier. The reasons are several but few to be noted: economy, corporate and media.  The presence of governance came to be at nil and Dr Manmohan Singh's silence exacerbated it. It was unusual and stupefying to understand this abhorrence for communication but this contributed a great deal for the exasperation of even the staunchest of the supporters. Economy slowed down on global and man-made so called policy paralysis, also complicated by previous point. Gentrification- It was unusual for the ruling party to become victim of its own creation as it failed to follow up and understand the lifestyle cycle. it had failed to communicate economic and business cycle (ruined largely by Dr Manmohan and his team by high interest rate and continual criticism of fiscal deficit program of their own government). Gentrification infuses a lifestyle changes with community, religion, and other identity rise and a party must be able to communicate and address this group. Unconsciously undermining the burgeoning middle 'middle' class. The party largely ignored the burgeoning middle 'middle' class and no point in stating that they voted not in favour Demography: The party should have identified that a large section of young voters will be joining the milieu and 'Catch them Young" has always been the theme of the other party Four hostile newspapers are more to be feared than a thousand bayonets

The French complain of everything and always - The middle class complains and complains about everything, corruption, inflation, road, rail and others...no effort was seen in addressing this. again goes to poor media management

Civil society surge- the civil society that was fended earlier with a socialist program agenda started feeding itself seeing the space available.

Large scale campaigning with think tanks and others- Understandably, gentrification and economic boom resulted in a class which can fend itself without a job and had enough time for social cause. besides, the think tank groups and a sustained multi-layered campaign was too much for the traditional show.

One must change tactics every ten years if one wishes to maintain one’s superiority - It was a decade and the tactics had to change/

Coalition=Frenemies

To say that the party lost only owing to its campaigning is too naïve. and to place it on one person again is entirely naïve. The only naivety or error in the campaigning was the interview to Times Now.
Diogenes, delhi
D-66/104
Sep 02, 2014
01:42 PM

" Mass conversions, and the stark contrast of customs like sati and untouchability when compared with Islam and Christianity, were enough to shake up a complacent culture."

1. Hinduism was never complacent. An open, non-coercive culture ensured that fresh ideas were being postulated all the time. Hindu thought was always in a state of flux and there was plenty of heterodoxy in the pre-Islamic era.

2. Islam was the antithesis of Hinduism. Its fierceness and rigidity made a dialogue impossible and Hinduism got atrophied leading to stagnation and intolerance of heterodoxy. 

3. Christianity came when Hinduism was already enfeebled. It had negligible impact on Hindu religious thought.

"Hinduism has many strengths and it does not need the kind of unmitigated glorification that you indulge in."

Islam has wiped out all pre-Islamic civilisation in all the places it colonised. The lone exception is India. That alone is proof of Hinduism's strength. It does not need certificates from puny minds like mine and yours. Stating facts is not "unmitigated glorification. Only the blind will aver that saying the sun shines brightly is an "unmitigated glorification" of the sun.

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-65/103
Sep 02, 2014
01:21 PM

" And he was roundly rejected and Buddhism was destroyed and banished. On top of that the blame for destroying Buddism was put on Muslim invaders, when in fact what the Muslims destroyed were some of the remnant iconic structures of a highly diminished Buddhist civilization."

There is no better antidote to ignorance than knowledge. Though you seem to be incorrigible, it is essential to set the record straight.

1. Buddhism is not radically different from Hinduism. Buddha is an avatar of Vishnu and Hindus worship him. 

2. Buddhism flourished for a thousand years, much longer than Islam (500 BCE ~ 600 CE approximately. To say that the teachings were rejected and banished is ignorance of the highest order.

3. During the Buddhist era, Buddhism and mainstream Hinduism coexisted in harmony among the lay followers. They followed both and rejected neither. It was the just the elites who fought each other at the ideological level.

4. Buddhism flourished as long as there was royal patronage. After Adi Sankara, royal patronage for Buddhism dwindled in India but it flourished in other places like Afghanistan and East Asia. 

5. Buddhism in Afghanistan perished under the onslaught of Islam. Islamic invaders attacked all places of worship of the infidels. Hinduism withstood Islamic rule because of its inherent strengths and not because of the enlightened benevolence of its rulers.

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-64/11
Sep 02, 2014
01:15 PM


D.L.Narayan,

>> " I thought most Muslims reject the sword verses while Hindus look up to the Gita for inspiration."

Muslimd do not reject any verses. It is you guys who conviniently reject Manusmriti! Muslims do re-interepret and re-contextualize.

Anwaar, Dallas
D-63/6
Sep 02, 2014
01:02 PM

As someone wrote; Amartya Sen was entrusted with 2400 Crores of public money to re-enact that glorious university; he created a murgi-khana.
You indeed can be a Nobel prize winner and an A*hole at the same time.

Saswati Sarkar @sarkar_swati
Smriti Irani's stooge UGC letting Amartya Sen distort the history of Nalanda while harassing science & engg premier institutes

Santosh Gairola, Hsinchu
D-62/10
Sep 02, 2014
12:57 PM

" That's what many Muslims say about the Sword Verses too".

They do? I thought most Muslims reject the sword verses while Hindus look up to the Gita for inspiration.

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-61/4
Sep 02, 2014
12:28 PM

This is an excellent assessment of the Indian political climate facing Islam's massive onslaught worldwide. But a tectonic shift in the mindset of the nation has just taken its roots by the election of Modi.  It is too early to project how Modi will prepare and stand up to it, although the signs are promising. At least, it will not be business as usual as it was in the Congress rule.

I have a number of reservations here, e.g. with

"Islam has grown organically within India, and has, over centuries, evolved elaborate cultures of accommodation with other Faiths. It is these, rather than any conscious effort or intervention by the state, that has kept Muslims in India substantially insulated against extremist doctrines and violence." -

If that were so, Hindus and Sikhs would not have been terrorized out of the Kashmir Valley where Muslims are in majority. Islam is fundamentally a political force by itself and will never accomodate with Hinduism, otherwise India would not have been partitioned in 1947.

And the Indian psyche is very passive and is burdened with inertia to react, e.g. referring to

"Nearly six years after the Mumbai 26/11 attacks, despite a flurry of erratic and uncoordinated initiatives, India's vulnerabilities to terrorism remain unchanged."

it is worth noting that not a single candle is burning at the India Gate, where terrorism in 26/11 struck, for the remembrance of the fallen and hommage to the victims, sharp in contrast to where  9/11 took place in New York. I guess the general Hindu public has lost cohesion to undertake a collective action. One cannot just blame the political masters of the nation for everything that is wrong. There must be some action at the down to earth citizen level.

Pinaki S Ray
Adelaide, Australia
D-60/102
Sep 02, 2014
12:20 PM

D.L.Narayan,

>>>> "A 71 year old Hindu in Kolkata, Mr Sanjay Mitra, has been observing roza (fast) for 21years during the month of Ramzan. This is his protest as an individual against the demolition of Babri Masjid, and an expression of shame on behalf of the majority (Hindu) community."

>> "Lakhs of Indian workers in the Gulf countries are observing Roza during Ramadan every year without fail. They have no option."

You omitted the second half of the story and produced an irrelevant response! 

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-59/101
Sep 02, 2014
11:55 AM

BANGALOREAN,

Do you really expect Saba to reply you ? Inconvenient questions are best left unanswered is their norm. 

Mohan
Adiipur, India
D-58/100
Sep 02, 2014
11:54 AM

>> First, a confession: I am from a family that is apparently spawned from and breeds “jehadis”.

Don't blame your family for your ideology.

Whats InAName
San Francisco, United States
D-57/45
Sep 02, 2014
11:52 AM

>> Sorry, the whole concept is just too stupid to be true. Love Jihad - would any of you either try and trick someone into marriage in order to convert them or marry someone whom you didn't know well enough to be sure of their intentions? Aisey ho bhi saktha hai?

Sounds weird right?

But not as weird as the idea that organized gangs of Pakis would groom little girls, some as young as 9, and subject them to rapes, gang rapes, trafficking, beatings, threats, torture, etc., while the authorities shall turn the other way in the fear of being labeled racist.

Whats InAName
San Francisco, United States
D-56/99
Sep 02, 2014
11:51 AM


D.L.Narayan,

>> "Just as there are Muslims and Islamists, there have got to be Hindus and Hindutvawadis.

Just compare Gandhi and Nehru with Savarkar and Adityanth. Or compare Ananthamurthy with yourself.  As Irfan Engineer's article says:

"V D Savarkar wrote in his tract on Hindutva, “Nothing can weld peoples into a nation and nations into a state as the pressure of a common foe. Hatred separates as well as unites.” Savarkar located the common foe in Muslims and Christians whose holy lands were outside Sindhustan, or land running from Indus to Arabian Sea. The Hindu Nationalist Organisations have since invested their concerns in constructing a common foe, more imaginary than real and more mythological than historical. 

"Anti-Muslim Gujarat riots in 2002 did not happen in a day and as a spontaneous response to the train burning – action reaction theory was just a cover up for the hard work that was racheting up the communal polarisation following Savarkar’s advice of necessity of a “common foe” to fuse the Hindus into a nation.

Hindutva is highly uncomfortable with cozy relations that develop due to common bonds between communities. Common worship, common culture, common civilization, shared localities and common marital relations are an absolute anathema with “enemy” communities. Savarkar writes in his tract on Hindutva, “Moreover everything that is common in us with our enemies, weakens our power of opposing them. The foe that has nothing in common with us is the foe likely to be most bitterly resisted by us”. Commonness is resisted by stigmatizing campaigns and use of violence.... Therefore interreligious marriages are a huge issue for the HNOs. It essentially checks their march towards fusing the diverse community into a “cohesive nation and race” in spite of all the diversities and hierarchies. Savarkar warned of identifying anything common with the enemy weakens the nation."

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-55/13
Sep 02, 2014
11:45 AM

F**k political correctness. If it is happening, it has got to be said. And we all know what is happening so pretending otherwise just because you don't want to hurt the perpetrators' sentiments is not going to cut it.

Karan Thapar can shove his opinion where the sun don't shine.

Ganwaar
Ganwaarpur, India
D-54/44
Sep 02, 2014
11:38 AM

Zafar,

[[ Sorry, the whole concept is just too stupid to be true. Love Jihad - would any of you either try and trick someone into marriage in order to convert them or marry someone whom you didn't know well enough to be sure of their intentions? Aisey ho bhi saktha hai?]]

Why do you think this happens overnight? Is it too difficult to know someone well enough over a period of time? "Love" is like that, isn't it?

And if I were you, by now, if you look at just the documented cases of such marriages, I wouldn't even ask if it could be true.

Ganwaar
Ganwaarpur, India
D-53/5
Sep 02, 2014
11:38 AM


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naidu ganadi, Hyderabad
D-52/9
Sep 02, 2014
11:36 AM


D.L.Narayan,

>> "The larger message of the Gita is: "Karmanyeva adhikaaraste, ma phaleshu kadaachana"."

That's what many Muslims say about the Sword Verses too.

Anwaar, Dallas
D-51/43
Sep 02, 2014
11:31 AM

 Sorry, the whole concept is just too stupid to be true.  Love Jihad - would any of you either try and trick someone into marriage in order to convert them or marry someone whom you didn't know well enough to be sure of their intentions?  Aisey ho bhi saktha hai?

Zafar
Sydney, Australia
D-50/98
Sep 02, 2014
11:29 AM
Question for Saba Naqvi:

>>  First, a confession: I am from a family that is apparently spawned from and breeds “jehadis”. This misguided family (full of uncles, aunts, cousins and sisters who married and produced children with partners outside the barricades of religion) thought they were making love, not war.

Please provide following data:

1) How many females married outside Islam and how many males married outside Islam?

2) Are they keeping original religious beliefs even after marrying Muslim?

3) What is the religion of next generation in case of inter religious marriages?

My hunch is answer to first question is all male and no female, answer to second is NONE and to the last question is invariably ISLAM.

Now unless you answer, presumption would be they were all sham inter religious marriages, true Islamic style!

Bangalorean
Bangalore, India
D-49/3
Sep 02, 2014
11:27 AM

> "country's commitment to peace and non-violence is engrained in the "DNA of Indian society"."

Prove it by reining in Adityanath, Amit Shah, Swamy, Togadia, Hindu Rashtra Sena, Ram Sene and other similar hate promoters! They all belong to your Parivar.

Anwaar, Dallas
D-48/97
Sep 02, 2014
11:21 AM

" A 71 year old Hindu in Kolkata, Mr Sanjay Mitra, has been observing roza (fast) for 21years during the month of Ramzan. "

Lakhs of Indian workers in the Gulf countries are observing Roza during Ramadan every year without fail. They have no option.

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-47/1
Sep 02, 2014
11:15 AM


Savage brutes!


 

Anwaar, Dallas
D-46/96
Sep 02, 2014
11:13 AM

.just answer only two uestion of mine

1)"Girls of one religion will continue to fall in love with boys from another and vice versa" but examples u give shud hold 50-50 and not 99-01 as we see.....so there must be something more than what u r trying to pass off as trivial

2) if love jihad is not an organised crime does it cease to exist as crime?

   such narrow minded tiny brained people like saba are greater criminals than the love jihadis as they are justifying the crime

vaibhav
kolkata, India
D-45/40
Sep 02, 2014
11:04 AM

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Sasi Taroor M.P.
 

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PATTAMBI, India
D-44/4
Sep 02, 2014
11:01 AM

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naidu ganadi, Hyderabad
D-43/2
Sep 02, 2014
10:53 AM

>> "country's commitment to peace and non-violence is engrained in the "DNA of Indian society"

Sickos will protest that Modi is equating 'Indian' society with 'Hindu' society.

K.Suresh, Bangalore
D-42/3
Sep 02, 2014
10:51 AM

9 years and crores spent already, but no class room for the paltry 15 students. Not to mention 11 faculty for these 15 students. Will it attract the cream of JNUites in future ?

K.Suresh, Bangalore
D-41/1
Sep 02, 2014
10:48 AM

The Chai Circle.  Modi has come a long way - from selling chai outside railway stations to sipping tea with Japanese PM.

K.Suresh, Bangalore
D-40/95
Sep 02, 2014
10:30 AM

"I have no problems with Hindus, only with Hindutvawadies. "

This comment betrays Anwaar's mindset. Just as there are Muslims and Islamists, there have got to be Hindus and Hindutvawadis. Anwaar is seeking to draw a false equivalence between Islam and Hinduism.

Hinduism is a religion. Hindutva is a political ideology. In Islam, there is no demarcation between religion and politics.

Hindutva speaks up for Hindu rights which are being trampled upon in the name of a distorted secularism which insists that the first call on a nation's resources belongs to the minorities. Speaking up for Hindu rights is not denial of minority rights. Savarkar was very clear that no distinction should be made between citizens on the basis of religion, region or caste.

For Anwaar, those who are collaborators are Hindus and all those who oppose the politics of appeasement and demand equal rights for Hindus are Hindutvawadis. Shows how distorted his world view is.

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-39/94
Sep 02, 2014
10:27 AM

>>  Now, which Muslim is doing it on your behalf for the thousands of temples destroyed by Muslims all over the Indian subcontinent. over the last several hundred years, or are you volunteering?

Answer is of course NONE. They are ALL praying for Caliphate and ISIS to take over India so that more temples can be destroyed in future. Compassion/mutual respect/empathy are the words non-existent in Islamic civilization. Corresponding words are deceit/backstabbing and hate!

Bangalorean
Bangalore, India
D-38/8
Sep 02, 2014
10:08 AM

"Aren't there battlefield verses in the Gita? Prime Minister Abe, beware!"

A few months back, Outlook published an idiotic essay about the need for rescuing the Gita from the Hindus. Now, Anwaar talks of rescuing the Japanese from the Gita :-)

The entire Gita was a battlefield discourse. It was delivered when Arjuna, laid down his arms in a fit emotion and saw himself as larger than the dharmic forces at play.

Lord Krishna's discourse put everything in perspective and made Arjuna realise that he was merely an instrument of God's will and it would be a gross dereliction of his duties as a soldier if he laid down his arms.

Only a moron will interpret the message of the Gita as an exhortation to indulge in an orgy of violence. The larger message of the Gita is: "Karmanyeva adhikaaraste, ma phaleshu kadaachana" - one's focus must be on performing one's duties to the best of one's ability and not on the rewards that accrue. No glorification of violence, no promises of heaven, just the importance of performing the duty assigned to you.

The message of the Gita can be applied to all fields of human endeavour. The battlefield verses have a very limited contextual application and a very limited shelf life, according to Anwaar. Only the ignorant will see any similarity between the two.

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-37/93
Sep 02, 2014
10:04 AM

Yes, they did take care of the Kafir Hindus very well.

Look at how they decimated the Hindus in Pakistan, that will give a pointer:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduism_in_Pakistan

>> In 1951, Hindus constituted 22% of the Pakistani population (this includes East Pakistan, modern day Bangladesh);,[6][7] the West Pakistan, modern Pakistan, had 2% Hindu population,[6] today, the share of Hindus is down to 1.6% in Pakistan,[4] and 9.2% in Bangladesh.[8] (In 1951, Bangladesh alone had a 22% Hindu population.[9])

The popuation share went down from 22% to 1.6% today. What this means is despite the popuation boom, the actual number of Hindus DECREASED in the land of pure.

How did that happen? Well imposition of Zaziya as enshrined by none other than Muhammad the great, abductions, rape, forcible conversion, trapping of pagan's women into marriage are well documented ways of increasing the number of believers, mastered none other than the prophet of peace himself.

So whereas the author Saba mentions ridiculous "Gau mutra" and what not, ever wondered the secular author never dares to even question Islam ever!!

Oh well, as per Anwaar, the call for killing the Kafirs and idol worshippers was only during war. In the peacetime, you just have Muslim singers like Ghulam Ali singing 

But humko kahein Kafir, Allah ki marzi hai

You can see that Allah of course does not like Butparast (idol worshippers) and no wonder thre is  all pervasive hate inside every muslim against idol worshippers. It's Allah's wish to kill, rape and maim them unless the convert and breed more believers!

Bangalorean
Bangalore, India
D-36/92
Sep 02, 2014
08:50 AM

>> A 71 year old Hindu in Kolkata, Mr Sanjay Mitra, has been observing roza (fast) for 21years during the month of Ramzan. This is his protest as an individual against the demolition of Babri Masjid, and an expression of shame on behalf of the majority (Hindu) community.

Thank god someone is doing it on my behalf.

Now, which Muslim is doing it on your behalf for the thousands of temples destroyed by Muslims all over the Indian subcontinent. over the last several hundred years, or are you volunteering?

Whats InAName
San Francisco, United States
D-35/91
Sep 02, 2014
08:49 AM

Yes, benevolent Muslim rulers did tried their best to reform Pagan Hindus.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haqiqat_Rai

Veer Haqiqat Rai (Punjabi: ??????? ???? ??? ????? ???? (Gurmukhi), ????? ???? ???? ?? ???? (Shahmukhi); Hindi: ??????? ??? ?????? ????), commonly known as Haqiqat Rai, was (according to a poem or ballad written in the late 1700s by a poet named Aggra or Aggar Singh or Sethi) born at Sialkot (1724 AD) to Durga and Bhag Mal, Kshatriya of the Puri subcaste. He Belongs to Hindu Community.

While at school he heard Hindu gods or goddesses being abused by Muslim classmates, and in return was rude about Muhammnad (or his daughter Fatima, the sources disagree). For this he was sentenced by a Qadi for execution. Here the sources disagree again, some saying that the Qadi's sentence provided the option of conversion to Islam instead of execution, others that an appeal was lodged with Zakriya Khan, governor of Lahore, who decreed that he could be pardoned only if he accepted Islam as punishment for blasphemy. Haqiqat Rai refused conversion and was executed. Haqiqat Rai was executed on 20 January 1735 (or perhaps 1741 or 1743).[1][2][3] The day of his execution used to be marked by a 'mela' (fair) on Vasant Panchami day in Lahore, around his 'samadhi' (Baway di marrhi), before India's partition. It appears his 'samadhi' was wrecked during riots in Lahore.[citation needed]

Mohan
Adiipur, India
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