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Feb 18, 2013
Shinduggery

Pakistan has Rehman Malik, we have Sushilkumar Shinde (Bombs In Our Houses, Feb 4). Miles ahead of anyone else in opening his mouth without engaging his brain.

Ashutosh Kaul, Toronto
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1/D-77
Jan 26, 2013
01:12 PM

“Pakistan already had ample Ammunition under his possession, all it lacked was a Matchbox which Shinde Ji obliged him with through his ‘Suicidal Slip Of Tongue’.”

Rajneesh Batra
New Delhi, India
2/D-84
Jan 26, 2013
01:37 PM

For now, Pakistan is largely relieved—Shinde’s statement gives a certain parity between the two nations in their acknowledgement of one of the toughest challenges they face.''

Mariana Babbar

Yes it helps Pakistan and perhaps also meant to clear the way for Manmohan Singh's visit to Pakistan in 2013 being the last year of his PM-ship.
Indians know very well that India faces toughest challenge from Pakistani-ISI State sponsored Terrorism in Kashmir,Punjab,Assam,Hyderabad and where not ?
30 alleged Hindu Terrorists whom the Govt could not even get convicted in the last 5 yrs do not pose a threat to any Nation .

But yes ,Shinde's Political loaded statement do ensures Votes for Congress so does it ensures as a reactionary Votes for BJP .

Unfortunately it seems the  Congress never heard of Newton and his 3 Laws of Motion because Sinde's statement violates all the Three Laws  !

ASHOK KUMAR GHAI
Mumbai, India
3/D-85
Jan 26, 2013
01:42 PM

Around 20 per cent of the territory in the so-called ‘red corridor’ is with Maoist militants. This is the right time for Pakistan to aggressively engage the UN on Kashmir,” says Gen Gul.

Well I hope Mr Shinde,Diggi and other bigwig Congress men now see the effects of Vote Bank cooing Statements .

ASHOK KUMAR GHAI
Mumbai, India
4/D-129
Jan 26, 2013
05:38 PM

Shinde's statement shows that congress is desperate now. He knows winning next election is becoming impossible day by day. UPA may be thinking of banning BJP as the last resort.

abhi
Pune, India
5/D-153
Jan 26, 2013
07:32 PM

The Pakistanis are gloating but they are stunned and bemused as well. They don't understand the predicament of the Indian National Congress.  It is getting desparate. It has nothing to go on.

And its bad times ahead for India. The Nehru Gandhi dynasty will disintegrate once   the current elders retire. Expect more divide and rule.  They will create a lot more trouble while it happens. 

MK Saini
Delhi, India
6/D-36
Jan 27, 2013
08:11 AM

PAKI MUSLIMS who were INDIAN MUSLIMS for more than 700 years till 1947 has become the foutainhead of world terrorism. Since the TERRORIST LABEL which stuck Muslims is difficult to be changed the effort is to do the next best thing- brand everyone else TERRORIST - Hindu Terrorism which will be soon followed by Buddhist Terrorism, Jain Terrorism, SC Terrorism, ST terrorism, OBC Terrorism etc etc. ---------- Thus it will be established that ALL INDIAN RELIGIONs are TERRORIST. The ulterior motive for such comments is to get the MUSLIMS to vote for Congress in 2014 Parliament Election.    

Charan dewry
Guwahati, India
7/D-42
Jan 27, 2013
09:11 AM

Dewry,

>> Since the TERRORIST LABEL which stuck Muslims is difficult to be changed.....

I must congratulate you on your uniformity. All your comments are equally stupid.

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
8/D-84
Jan 27, 2013
03:05 PM

@anwaar

 Since the TERRORIST LABEL which stuck Muslims is difficult to be changed the effort is to do the next best thing- brand everyone else TERRORIST

I see you've selectively quoted this sentence, which makes perfect sense to me. So do you think India is a terrorist nation, like Pakistan? I know you think so with your imagined RSS/BJP plots. But if they were really that effective then Muslims would be 1-2% of the population like Pakistan. Low level terror and harrassment is much more effective than the occasional bomb blast, isn't it. Pakistan is a terrorist nation 24 hr a day, 365 days a year.

MK Saini
Delhi, India
9/D-135
Jan 27, 2013
10:03 PM

 RSS and BJP survive on the enmity between Pakistan and India.If ever there is a peace between these countries,RSS and BJP will die a natural death.Hence they ensure that the enmity and tension are maintained.In fact closer to the election they want skirmishes on the border.Media too is largely controlled by RSS.

When the police,intelligence and burecracy connive it is state terrorism.Unlike the author says that most in India know of Hindutva terrorism, most of the Hindus beleive the oft repeated media projection that everything is the handiwork of Muslims.

Hindus are not ready to accept that there can be terrorists among Hindus.Hence this is the first time that Govt has acknowledged it is sending ripples and disbeleif.If Congress had done this before RSS would have contained and many innocent lives would not have lost.

Nasar Ahmed
Karikkudi, India
10/D-138
Jan 27, 2013
10:34 PM

>>> RSS and BJP survive on the enmity between Pakistan and India.If ever there is a peace between these countries,RSS and BJP will die a natural death

really ???

The Contrarian
London, United Kingdom
11/D-4
Jan 28, 2013
12:53 AM

The Congress electoral politics has stooped to such low levels that it would rather side with the enemies of India to tar its opposition as terrorists. Shame on you Sonia ...period.

The Contrarian
London, United Kingdom
12/D-8
Jan 28, 2013
01:57 AM

Saini,

>>  I see you've selectively quoted this sentence, which makes perfect sense to me.

Associating terrorism with religions must be the hallmark of a shrinking minority of morons.

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
13/D-18
Jan 28, 2013
05:34 AM

Given the ramification of what this Joker had said ,it is imperative that he gives evidence and credible evidence of RSS elements bieng involved or trained in terror.

Shinde should not be allowed to get away with this,Shinde owes this explanation.So long the farce of objecting religion bieng linked to terror has been exposed ,BJP indulged with it and and Congress is using it to get votes.

Shinde is better advised in asking the Maharasthra Govt to sack all those Rogue Cops who indulged in looting during the Dhule riots and get a Judicial enquiry done into Police excesses(bias) against a community.

BJP has succeeded in dividing the people on communal lines,Congress will divide the Nation.

Both parties are working for disintegration of India for political gains.People are taking sides and adopting rigid positions.Sad.

wrongone
chennai, India
14/D-24
Jan 28, 2013
06:28 AM

------------------------------- Associating terrorism with religions must be the hallmark of a shrinking minority of morons. -------------------------

Name ONE ISLAMIC COUNTRY which gives EQUAL RIGHTS to NON-MUSLIMS. ----  Violence in AFPAK, EGYPT, SYRIA, MALE, LIBYA, NIGERIA, SOMALIA, BEHARINE, IRAQ etc etc have its origin in religion- Islam - Shia, Sunni, Wahabi Muslims fighting each other.

------------ RSS and BJP survive on the enmity between Pakistan and India ------------------------ PAKIs, PAKI ARMY & ISI survives on enmity with India and CONGRESS win Parliament Elections in India with MUSLIM VOTE. (only Parliament Election as Muslims vote for SP, BSP, TMC, JDS, DMK, MUSLIM LEAGUE, MIM, NC, PDP etc during state elections)

Charan dewry
Guwahati, India
15/D-26
Jan 28, 2013
07:03 AM

"Former Gujarat minister Mohammed Surti of the Congress party was convicted and sentenced to 20 years in jail for his involvement in the 1993 Surat blasts case. Can Congress say it is encouraging terrorism as one of their ministers has been convicted," BJP leader Venkaiah Naidu said at a function here.

www.indianexpress.com/news/hindu-terror-naidu-says-congress-should-look-within-itself/1065488/

Whats InAName
San Francisco, United States
16/D-27
Jan 28, 2013
07:04 AM

Dewry,

>>>> Associating terrorism with religions must be the hallmark of a shrinking minority of morons.
>> Name ONE ISLAMIC COUNTRY which gives EQUAL RIGHTS to NON-MUSLIMS.

True, but how are those two connected? I suppose you have to maintain your renowned uniformity! Do all your posts have to be equally stupid?

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
17/D-29
Jan 28, 2013
07:38 AM

---------- True, but how are those two connected? -----

Typical ISLAMIC FUNDOO "TAQUIA" comment. ------------------ MUSLIMS will be as FANATICLY VIOLENT against all non-Muslims where ever MUSLIMS are in MAJORITY (even if happens to be PAKI MUSLIMS who were INDIAN MUSLIMS for more than 700 years till 1947) because " Muslims accept that they are bad" but insist on others being SECULAR where ever MUSLIMS are in MINORITY as "all others should not lower themselves to the level of FUNDOO MUSLIMS" -- very TAQUIA comment.

Charan dewry
Guwahati, India
18/D-59
Jan 28, 2013
11:15 AM

>>Can Congress say it is encouraging terrorism as one of their ministers has been convicted,

No, such rules do not apply to Muslims, CAIR and Congress. In these cases, terrorists work in individual capacity. In case of RSS and BJP, they are terrorist organizations.

RSM
Delhi, India
19/D-61
Jan 28, 2013
11:26 AM

With enemies like Sushil Kumar Shinde,and Mani Shankar Iyer and Digvijay Singh who lost no time in jumping to his defence and vociferously endorsing his loose cannon volley, Hafiz Saeed and his terrorist and war mongering ilk in Pakistan need no friends.

Ramesh Ramachandra
Bangalore, India
20/D-69
Jan 28, 2013
12:21 PM

Dewry,

>> Typical ISLAMIC FUNDOO "TAQUIA" comment.

You are venting your despicable communal hatred, but only idiots would consider terrorism to be connected with religion. Read this:

communalism.blogspot.com/2013/01/shinde-on-hindutva-terror.html

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
21/D-73
Jan 28, 2013
12:41 PM

 You are venting your despicable communal hatred, but only idiots would consider terrorism to be connected with religion.""

Faruki

But Shinde too connected Terrorism with Hindu Religion .You never cursed him .

ASHOK KUMAR GHAI
Mumbai, India
22/D-74
Jan 28, 2013
12:44 PM

I hope atleast now the Secular hindu's will understand the reality and unite against this sickular B******.

Somu Nair
Changanassery, India
23/D-79
Jan 28, 2013
01:02 PM

 ' muslim terror in india.

Anders Breivick cites N.S. Rajaram the Hindutva laden historian 

communalism.blogspot.in/search 

Faruki sahib

Above quoted your link  Communalism Blogg also writes about the Jihadi Terror .You will quote Ram Punayani Jhidai laden historian ( now banned officially if I am not wrong along with Two Circles Net ) others will quote NS Raja Ram Hindutav laden historian.

ASHOK KUMAR GHAI
Mumbai, India
24/D-80
Jan 28, 2013
01:03 PM

Ghai,

>> But Shinde too connected Terrorism with Hindu Religion.

Calling it Hindu terrorism is wrong, but if Shinde had said that Hindu religion was the cause of terrorism, I would have been the first to protest. Please read this.

www.thehindu.com/opinion/op-ed/twonation-theory-all-over-again/article4351060.ece

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
25/D-81
Jan 28, 2013
01:08 PM

Ghai,

Neither Ram Puniyani nor Two Circles Net is banned.

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
26/D-87
Jan 28, 2013
01:23 PM

Faruki if you quote Ram Punyani then others will quote RamChandra .

You gave blogg for Hindu Terror .I just asked the same blogg for Islamic Terrorism just to check whether the blogg is linkedto one Religion .Pat came the RamChandra's  link .

So how it helps ? 

ASHOK KUMAR GHAI
Mumbai, India
27/D-92
Jan 28, 2013
01:52 PM

Ghai,

The discussion here is about Hindutva terrorism. Ram Puniyani has written extensively on the subject.

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
28/D-132
Jan 28, 2013
08:26 PM

 Faruki

Sorry you have badly tripped by posting Ram Punyani's link.The same link within one secon took me to Raja Ram the Historian who has wider recognisiation in West for his books and Articles on Jihadi Terrorism .

ASHOK KUMAR GHAI
Mumbai, India
29/D-11
Jan 29, 2013
02:29 AM

The mafia and its stooges will go to any length to retain power including forging alliance with jihadi terrorists not only within the country but also outside. Hafiz Saeed is an ally of Sonia.

If this anti national cabal remains  in power for too long, India will become an Islamic state. It has already happened in some parts eg. Shariyat  law already almost in force in Kashmir valley.

Pradip Singh
STAFFORD, United Kingdom
30/D-18
Jan 29, 2013
02:52 AM

>>  Hafiz Saeed is an ally of Sonia.

Pradip Singh, you are due for another appointment with your psychiatrist.

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
31/D-20
Jan 29, 2013
03:02 AM

 30

As a jihadi sympathiser, your position is entirely understandable.

Pradip Singh
STAFFORD, United Kingdom
32/D-38
Jan 29, 2013
07:52 AM

Pradip Singh,

>>  As a jihadi sympathiser, your position is entirely understandable.

Can you give some examples of my views that can be called jihadi? If you can't find any, please admit that you are a liar.

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
33/D-42
Jan 29, 2013
08:24 AM

Pakistan has Rahman Malik ; we have our own Sushiluudin Shindiqui. Miles ahead of any one else in opening his mouth without engaging his brain.

Ashutosh Kaul
Toronto, Canada
34/D-52
Jan 29, 2013
10:07 AM

@ nasar..."RSS and BJP survive on the enmity between Pakistan and India.If ever there is a peace between these countries,RSS and BJP will die a natural death.Hence they ensure that the enmity and tension are maintained.In fact closer to the election they want skirmishes on the border.Media too is largely controlled by RSS....".

hahaha...your line of thinking is indeed laughable.

The problem with people like you is that you fail to recognize that your community's actions and keep blaming others for your problems. If you guys go to the West, you guys blame US, UK, Russia. If it is Middle-East, it is familiar Israel and Jews, If it is India, then Hindus and RSS. You and your community leaders want Hindus to acknowledge the so-called "Hindu terror" at the sametime none of you guys even have the courage to speak out against rabid lunatic fringe in your community. The fact is that you guys are experts in negationism and concealing the record of rabid elements within your community. Look with yourselves rather than asking other communities to "look within themselves".

Erwin Rommel
Hyderabad, India
35/D-84
Jan 29, 2013
01:17 PM

 Shinde’s terror charge sparks advice, gloating, ACTION PLANS in Pakistan ' Mariana Baabar

ACTION PLAN No 1 :

Rehman Malik Interior Minister has sent an advise (most probably followed by an Official Advisory if we don't act ) to provide Security Cover to Shah Rukh Khan .

ASHOK KUMAR GHAI
Mumbai, India
36/D-150
Jan 29, 2013
09:43 PM

 Home Ministers: Shinde / Rehman Malik

Foreign Ministers: Salman Khurshid  / Hina Rabbani Khar

The famed Indo-Pak rivalry with a difference - this time its looks like trying to out perform each other in choosing the most incompetent ministers. Hilarious but the tragedy is that it is the common folk who are suffering.

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
37/D-13
Jan 31, 2013
02:24 AM

 32

Your track record of constantly attempting to draw parallels and create bogus parity between SYSTEMIC global murderous Islamic fascism (as exemplified by near total elimination of minorities not only in Bangladesh and Pakistan but in Kashmir in the so called secular India) with isolated stray alleged incidents of violence by some Hindus (possibly as a result of frustration arising from rampant bullying and harassment of Hindus in their own land) is ample testimony of your real intent which is to give succour to your comrades in the frontline of their global crusade of domination.

Pradip Singh
STAFFORD, United Kingdom
38/D-21
Jan 31, 2013
03:16 AM

Pradip Singh,

>>  "isolated stray alleged incidents of violence by some Hindus."

Count the number of blasts: Samjhauta Express, Ajmer, Hyderabad, Jalna, Purna, Margoo, Malegaon, Nanded, Tenkasi,  Thana, Nagpur, Kanpur, Modasa, Panvel, Hubli, Goa.

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
39/D-125
Jan 31, 2013
10:04 PM

Anwaar,

[[Samjhauta Express, Ajmer, Hyderabad, Jalna, Purna, Margoo, Malegaon, Nanded, Tenkasi, Thana, Nagpur, Kanpur, Modasa, Panvel, Hubli, Goa.]]

Have any Hindu terrorists been convicted in any of the blasts you mentioned above? The responsibility for the Samjhauta blasts has also been claimed by some Paki terrorists. You are eager to pin it on Hindus because that would give you a reason to claim some sort of parity between extremists from both religions.

The fact remains that Muslim terrorists have been caught and convicted in several terrorist incidents in India, something that cannot be said about Hindu terrorists.

Alakshyendra
Hyderabad, India
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