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D-63/2
Aug 23, 2014
10:16 AM

The rise of global Islamism

By Tufail Ahmad

Published: 06th Ju3

 

Islamism is a cultural and political movement aimed at eradicating secular and democratic ethos of a society in a bid to pave the way for Islamic ascendancy. It introduces exhibitionist religiosity in people’s lives: there is no issue if a woman wears a burqa, but the problem is a body of religious and political ideas that makes her choose such a dress code. Subsequently, these ideas begin to strike at the roots of individual liberty, women’s freedom, rights of non-Muslims and a free press. The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language defines Islamism as an “Islamic revivalist movement, often characterised by moral conservatism, literalism, and the attempt to implement Islamic values in all spheres of life”. It is pertinent here to look at recent examples of how Islamism unfolds in everyday life.

In 2010, Islamists in Kerala chopped off the hand of college lecturer T J Joseph for setting a question paper which they deemed as disrespecting Prophet Muhammad. In 2011, Islamists led by Syed Ahmed Bukhari forced an exhibition on the “Koran in 53 languages”, organised by Ahmadiyya Jamaat in Delhi, to be shut. Not long ago, actor-producer Kamal Hassan was compelled by Islamists in Tamil Nadu to edit his movie Vishwaroopam for showing that jihadists recited Koranic verses before launching attacks. In May, tens of thousands of Bangladeshis led by Islamist group Hefajat-e-Islam marched through Dhaka, demanding stricter blasphemy laws. Pakistani media is full of reports of Hindu girls being converted to Islam forcibly, Christians being accused of blasphemy, homes and mosques of Ahmadi Muslims being vandalised, Shias being declared infidels and murdered.

In Egypt, Islamists are targeting Christians through lawsuits, accusing them of blaspheming Islam, and liberal Muslims are quitting government jobs. In Egypt’s Sinai Peninsula, Islamists killed a man for selling alcohol recently. In Tunisia, Islamists desecrated Jewish cemeteries, and attacked art galleries and cinemas. In Turkey, Islamists stabbed couples who kissed in an Ankara metro station recently to protest against moral policing by Turkish authorities. To make a point, Turkey is building a $100-million mega mosque in America. Jordan is witnessing public demonstrations by Islamists. In a British prison, an Islamist inmate recruited two others to beat up guards in May. In all these cases, there is a single binding factor: Islam. The jihadists of Al-Qaeda variety and Islamists share the same ideological objectives, with the only distinction being that the former are armed and consider themselves fighting on a battlefield against infidels. Their goal is: establishing Sharia rule. Islamism is a softer face of jihadists, sometimes masquerading as liberal Islam in our midst.

Driven by an ideological longing to revive the glory of Islamic caliphate, Islamists are open to using Western tools of election, constitution and the rule of law in introducing Islam in a country’s politics, governance, literature, culture and architecture. Their tactic is to win an election, re-write a country’s constitution to make it compliant with Islam and begin Islamising. Inspired by the success of Islamists in the Arab Spring, even the Taliban are open to using referendums and elections as a tactic.

Last March, Mullah Agha Jan Mutasim, an aide to Mullah Omar, indicated that the Taliban might form a party, noting: “We must launch a political movement to achieve the goals for which we have made so many sacrifices.” Tempted by the rise of Egyptian Islamists, Barelvi scholar Tahirul Qadri returned to Pakistan last December from his self-exile in Canada to engineer a Cairo-like mass uprising in Islamabad, unsuccessfully though, to grab power. “Far from rendering Islamism unnecessary,” writes US academic John M Owen IV, “the Arab Spring has increased its credibility.”

In the past, Islamists have tried to revive the glory of Islam in the political sphere. Such efforts were dubbed as revivalism, fundamentalism, political Islam, extremist Islam, radical Islam and likewise. In the modern democratic era, Islamism is emerging as a distinct attempt to comprehend the meanings of power in all its industrial, corporate and military complexities, as signified by the West.

On the danger of Islamism in post-9/11 years, noted Islamic affairs expert Francis Robinson warns: “[Islamists] understood the issue of power, but in engaging with the West they were deemed to be willing to sacrifice too much that was essential to Islam and Muslim culture. Islamists saw the real danger as Western civilisation itself. Their real enemies were the secular or modernist elites in Muslim societies who collaborated with Western political, economic and cultural forces.”

Commenting on the phenomenon of Islamism, Mehdi Mozaffari of the University Aarhus observes: “Prior to the Islamist revolution in Iran in 1978–79, the terms ‘Islamism’ and ‘Islamists’ are… practically absent from the vocabulary of newspaper reporters.” Now, Islamism is becoming vigorous. For the Islamist parties that rose to power amid the Arab Spring, a policy prototype was readily available from Iran in policies implemented after the 1979 Islamic Revolution, from Turkey where the Islamist Justice and Development Party won 2002 elections and is removing liberal influences from public life, and from Gaza where Hamas captured power through elections to impose Sharia.

In its new avatar, Islamism is also a legal attempt to redefine the relationship between Islam and the state, and between the state and citizens. In 2011, former Islamist Maajid Nawaz observed: “Islamism is the idea that seeks to implement one interpretation of Islam over the rest of society by law. Some Islamists seek to do this through politicking and others through violence.”

In the wake of Arab Spring, Cairo-based journalist Heba Saleh wrote that Islamism does not represent a “broad range of opinion” of people to evolve consensus on government policy-making. In the conception of Islamists, non-Muslim citizens are not permitted to govern or head an Islamic state. Kevin B Anderson, an expert on the Iranian Revolution, sums up: Islamism has “many features and faces, everywhere it is anti-feminist, everywhere it is authoritarian, and everywhere it is intolerant of other religions.”

Mohan, Adiipur
D-62/2
Aug 23, 2014
10:10 AM

Bhagwati J as he then was did not sit on the Bench that heard Olga Tellis; Chandrachud CJI who presided was with the majority. 

kannan srinivasan
melbourne, Australia
D-61/15
Aug 23, 2014
10:09 AM

I completely agree with Akshay's assessment of CJ Lodha. Ever since he became the CJI, he is looking for confrontation with the government. It first started with Gopal Subramanian where government's reservations were shown to be 'interfering' with the judiciary. Second, Lodha spoke about fast tracking cases against MPs but when Modi wanted the same, he did a shameful somersault. Third, over the last few years there was debate and consensus on the failure of the collegium system. Almost every judge and SC lawyer was of the view that the collegium system was a constitutional aberration. Now when the NDA government passed the JAC Bill in both houses with overwhelming majority, our dear CJI starts lamenting the demise of the collegium system! And finally, after dismissing a PIL on LOP a couple of weeks ago, Lodha starts telling us about his personal imaginations about the LOP.

As usual, on each of these issues the MSM never pointed out CJI's hypocrisy, but created a narrative that the Judiciary is slamming the government for trying to usurp its powers.

RSM, Delhi
D-60/3
Aug 23, 2014
10:03 AM

Well, he kept his word, but not necessarily in the way he wanted though....

Non Fanatic, London
D-59/45
Aug 23, 2014
09:57 AM

VNKM,

Is Anwaar more sinned against that sinning in the issue of name calling? Let's analyse today's posts for personal abuse.

D/15 - Anwaar to DLN : you moron! Seems all hatemongers have to be liars by necessity.

D/18 - Anwaar to Bangalorean : you will lie and pollute this forum with your despicable hate? Shame on you!

D/24 - Anwaar to Bangalorean : Your hate prachar and attacking religions in political discussions is not the same thing as "opposing ideas". Your and Banglorean's posts are way outside the bounds of civilized discourse.

D/26 - Anwaar to Saachbolo : your personal hateful mentality.

D/27 - Anwaar to Ram Lala : You are a professional liar!

D/28 - Anwaar to DLN : shameless hate merchant like yourself

D/41 - Saachbolo quoting Ram lala (referring to Anwaar) : CAIR pracharak.

D/42 - WIAN (referring to Anwaar) : Jehadi too.

D/45 - Saachbolo (describing Anwaar) : He is a thug to the core and utterly dishonest.

Now as an independent observer and one who is unfailingly polite, you judge and tell us who uses abuse as a basic tool for argument. The funny thing is that DLN NEVER uses personal invective, yet he is the target of the most abuse. His offence - He poke holes in Anwaar's sanctimonious arguments by quoting inconvenient bits and pieces of Islamic scriptures which, notwithstanding Anwaar's claims to the contrary, are followed to the letter by the majority of Muslims, or if not the majority by the vocal minority which controls and leads the ummah.

Anwaar is the staunchest defender of CAIR and is called "CAIR pracharak" for his pains. Yet when DLN quoted a CAIR president's exhortation to the faithful, Anwaar's response was, 

Omar Ahmad is not an authority on Islam. In 1999 no one had even heard of CAIR. Consult any authority on islam about sicide bombing. But for a persistent and shameless hate merchant like yourself any opinion that suits your false argument is fine!

To argue that the fame or rather lack of it of an organisation makes its leader's remarks more acceptable is hilarious. Incidentally DLN has quoted from an eminent Muslim critic saying exactly the same thing as Omar Ahmed and Anwaar has fortunately not had the gall to dismiss this cleric as unrepresentative.

If Anwaar were to abjure from personal abuse and argu eissues on their merits rather than ascribe motives, we could have a civilised debate. Incidentally Anwaar's behaviour in this forum is similar to the behaviour of many of his co-religionists in the wider world. He uses personal abuse to attack anyone who disagrees with him. His brothers outside use violence.

Bonita, Chennai
D-58/2
Aug 23, 2014
09:43 AM


 

What they are doing is abhorable, but I won't be surprised that secularists try to put blame on Modi/BJP for their action. 

Mohan, Adiipur
D-57/3
Aug 23, 2014
09:42 AM

What they are doing is abhorable, but I won't be surprised that secularists try to put blame on Modi/BJP for their action. 

Mohan, Adiipur
D-56/2
Aug 23, 2014
09:26 AM

Jesus turned water into wine. Now everyone in Kerala  is praying to him to turn their water at home into their choice of daru. 

Mohan, Adiipur
D-55/1
Aug 23, 2014
09:14 AM

There are only two situations when Pakistan army fires at Intermational borders. When talks between India and Pakistan are scheduled and when talks are not scheduled. 

Mohan
Adiipur, India
D-54/1
Aug 23, 2014
08:25 AM

Nah, no 'controversy' there.

It is just that left loonies sitting on ideological high table are finding solace in a fringe group of 8-10 persons, for their survival and relevance.

Santosh Gairola
Hsinchu, Taiwan
D-53/1
Aug 23, 2014
07:44 AM
Nutcases.

URA was a great man, his stupid outburst notwithstanding. It did no one any harm.In fact it probably helped NaMo. It's one thing to mock URA by sending him a ticket. I thought it was funny. However, it's plain boorish to "celebrate" his passing. The 'celebrants" realize how obnoxious their behaviour would be perceived which is why they've hidden their faces. Their act is not illegal, merely revolting.

Bonita, Chennai
D-52/2
Aug 23, 2014
07:39 AM

BAN RELIGION

CELEBRATE LIFE!

Misogynist
Chennai, India
D-51/6
Aug 23, 2014
07:37 AM

No one can speak the truth about the anti male hyper reporting that has been rampantly increased in the media recently.

Anyone daring to speak his mind about the hyper reporting must be willing to have his character assasinated by the media 'terrorists'.

Misogynist, Chennai
D-50/14
Aug 23, 2014
07:13 AM

The SC can interpret laws. It cannot tell the Speaker what he/she may do in the House. Unless the SC is itching for a constitutional confrontation, the solution is very simple. Let the SC rule that wherever the term "LoP"is used in any statute, it shall mean the leader of the single opposition party where the Speaker has not "recognised" any person as Leader of the Opposition. This should take care of any concerns that the voice of the opposition is not being heard.

Driving to a meeting in a car with the National Flag (a perk of holding LoP position) is not going to get that voice any more respect. It didn't help Sushma Swaraj whose legitimate reasoned dissent was arrogantly dismissed by Maun Moan and Chiddu in selecting "Tainted" Thomas as CVC..

Once the SC makes such a ruling, selection of Lokpal can go ahead and the laws amended later.

Bonita, Chennai
D-49/44
Aug 23, 2014
05:57 AM

29 D L Narayan Sir
I dont agree of such name calling.
Have a nice day

V.N.K.Murti Pattambi
PATTAMBI, India
D-48/28
Aug 23, 2014
05:30 AM

All  measures ( secularism, equal rights , democracy )  to fight islamic fascism in S Asia have failed so far. If you want to deal with Islamic fascism you have to speak in their language that they understand.  The question is , is receding Hindu majority India, capable of that ?

SaachBolo
SaachGarh, India
D-47/3
Aug 23, 2014
05:27 AM

Somebody said each state must have its own currency, own passport, own army, own navy, own space program, own flag, own constitution and own collapse state economies and own death. Indian economy will collapse. This is the most idiotic comment I have heard in a long time.

Parthasarathy Shakkottai, Long Beach
D-46/14
Aug 23, 2014
05:23 AM

Ofcourse 'its not about the numbers' ! Or else how could the cruel, genocidal,minority islamic rule would have survived in South Asia, for so long as it did ?

Of course islamists and their lickers like saroja want minority rule back.

SaachBolo
SaachGarh, India
D-45/116
Aug 23, 2014
04:58 AM

The fun or the benefit of discussing religion and politics with Anwaar is a gives a view to the infidel about the workings of 'word of allah mind'  or 'koranic mind'. He is throughly dishonest. Won't acknowledge the vicious and venal nature of islamic states.Would compare Hindus and Hinduism, which has not retaliated against muslims even as muslims have perpetrated genocuide against Hindus in every muslim majority area of Indian subcontinent. No he wont acknowledge the imalayan contrast about how a Hindu majority state has treated muslims with how Islamic majority states have treated Hindus.

He is a thug to the core and utterly dishonest. The terrorists of ISIS , violent and criminal as they are, can't be more dishonest and duplicitous than people like Anwaar. There is lies a lesson for all non-muslims of India.

Regarding dallits in India, no Hnduism did not exterminate them as muslims have done to non-muslims. Hindus have recognized the injustice and have taken steps to correct it. So while upper caste Hindus can be ashamed of the past discrimination they can be proud of the corrrective steps taken. They can be also proud of not perpetrating genocide against muslims while muslims have perpetrated genocide against Hindus in every muslim majority area in South Asia.

Of course dishonest to the core Anwaar would never acknowledge it as he is condemned to live in a world of lies by repeating 'word of god' - 5 times a day.

SaachBolo
SaachGarh, India
D-44/5
Aug 23, 2014
03:30 AM

It was likely more than just tourism dollars. A friend of mine, (originally from Netherlands), was to travel to India around that time. She was quite excited, and was really looking forward to it. With all the news, she backed out.

Maybe they sent someone else in her place. However, there might have been some business loss too (in the long term probably more costly).

Despite that, Jaitley's statement was extremely stupid, and worse, grossly insensitive. One of the rare times when I actually thought the hyperventilating, breathless media people were doing good. Tourism or business dollars are not as important as safety of citizens. If the media expose can make our streets safer, not only will it be good for citizens, over time, it shall be good for tourism and business dollars too.

Whats InAName, San Francisco
D-43/13
Aug 23, 2014
03:27 AM

How can Indians have respect for your clan when they have been in cahoots with likes of Teesta Shitalwad who have made living out peddling lies in pursuit  anti-Majoritysm and anti-Modism? Till eheir lies were exposed, people belived in you..but you cannot hide truth for too long as that's what happened in India in the recent elections. 

Teesta Shitalwad, the darling of India secularists, tweeted a picture today where she was equating the barbaric Islamic state terrorists( who killed innocent American Journalist..apart from hundreds of Shias) with Kali, the Hindu Goddess worshiped by Bengalees. This has exposed both, her Jehadi Sympathies and her attitude towards majority of people of India and the U.S.

Indian_Voter
Nanded, India
D-42/53
Aug 23, 2014
03:24 AM

>> Hindus acknowledge past wrongs

Jehadi too.

He too acknowledges past wrongs of the Hindus :-)

See his response.

Whats InAName
San Francisco, United States
D-41/52
Aug 23, 2014
03:14 AM

Ram Lala wrote

"Given the 1,300 year long history of Islamic barbarism targeted at Hindus, this squeak from the CAIR pracharak is as disgusting as a Brahmin calling Dalits bigots if they highlight the barbarism of caste discrimination in Hinduism."

Perfect. Hindus acknowledge past wrongs and continued lingering discrimination based on caste and have taken corrrective measures including reverse discrimination against upper-castes to help the dalits - giving them reservation in jobs, educational institutions.

What are islamists doing to undo the genocide of Hindus and other minorities or are they persisting with the same murderous ways as they did in 7th century and since then against infidels, idol worshippers ?

SaachBolo
SaachGarh, India
D-40/51
Aug 23, 2014
03:09 AM

Regarding Islamic / Koranic verses on 'Houris' (virgins ) , promised to the faithful by God in heaven, there arejust  too many to post. Some pretty graphic and do not paint a positive picture of what Gos is all about. Once again , the verses mean nothing were it not the fact of the insistence by the muslims that they are 'word of God' - even as they portray God as a very megalomaniac , violent , vengeful entity showering 'houris/virgins' on the faithful and death/destruction on those that do not acknowledge him.

SaachBolo
SaachGarh, India
D-39/3
Aug 23, 2014
03:05 AM

My God, how many girls and women of the world screwed Miso how badly that he has developed soooo much hatred for the entire female gender !! It is beyond imigination.  In previous life he must be one of those male insect which gets eaten by the female during the mating itself. 

P.B. Joshipura, Suffolk, Virginia
D-38/204
Aug 23, 2014
02:56 AM

If Muslims are turning to terrorism, it’s because they lack in education, they are treated as second-class citizens and rarely get jobs in the private sector. Hindus should, in fact, treasure Muslims in India for having stayed back after Partition. Here’s some advice from a saying by some elders: “Don’t hit a cat that’s in a closed room; finding no esc­ape, it will leap for your throat.”  M. ZAKIR, ON E-MAIL

If Muslims lack education, whose fault is that? But this does not happen in India only.In USA, Canada and Europe, Muslims literacy rate is pretty low and hence they have high unemployment rate.  A large number of taxi drivers in UK and North America are Muslims. And to your next point. Muslims have done a favour to themselves by staying in India. Hindus in India would be happier with less Muslims than they have right now.Just look at Pakistan and see what happened to the Biharis who migrated to East Pakistan. Even today, they are in camps in Dhaka. If you do not believe what I said, and I am sure you will not, ask MJAkbar.
george
london, United Kingdom
D-37/131
Aug 23, 2014
02:42 AM

@Anwaar

Qur'an (9:111) - "Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:

How do you "fight and slay" for Allah's cause ? What is that cause ? Isn't Muhammadans slaying in the cause of Allah since 7th century ? How much more slaying do they need to do ?

SaachBolo
SaachGarh, India
D-36/21
Aug 23, 2014
02:32 AM

>> Is it true that Teesta has apologized for the photshop?

She said image was still being worked on, and got uploaded by mistake.

Seems like we got only the trailer. Wonder how the full movie might have been.

BTW, where are the Teesta apologists? They are curiously silent.

Whats InAName
San Francisco, United States
D-35/50
Aug 23, 2014
02:29 AM

>> However in this forum, these activists are called thieves, jehadists and bitches

If these activists, and their bhakts and bhaktins refrained from labeling anyone who disagreed with them as Nazis, fascists, casteists, Moditards, etc., their whinings shall actually be taken in the proper spirit, instead of generating amusement and condescension. If they engage in proper debate without name calling, and spit and scoot tactics, they might even have a civilized discussion with people of opposing views.

Whats InAName
San Francisco, United States
D-34/13
Aug 23, 2014
02:19 AM

>> He is doing his job. He does not want Modi to use the same shenanigans in the process to appoint the Lokpal that he did in the appointmnet of the Gujarat Lokayukta.

The judiciary had disgraced itself in the Gujarat Lokayukta case. Hope it doesn't do the same this time too.

Whats InAName
San Francisco, United States
D-33/130
Aug 23, 2014
02:15 AM

>> In 1999 no one had even heard of CAIR

So they could show their real ugly face. Now, after some members being convicted, and links with terror organizations being suspected, they have to be more circumspect, and put on a liberal mask, which does slip from time to time (as in the recent Brandeis university case).

Whats InAName
San Francisco, United States
D-32/129
Aug 23, 2014
02:09 AM

"Consult any authority on islam about sicide bombing."..... Anwaar

How about Sheikh Yousef Qaradawi,  a 78-year-old Egyptian cleric and preacher, with a history of activism in the Muslim Brethren. He was forced from Egypt for his views, and he lives in Qatar, where he has become a media star by virtue of his immensely popular television show on Al-Jazeera television. Dr. Qaradawi has sometimes been portrayed as a moderate, who favors a tolerant Islam and who would reconcile Islam with modernity. For example, he condemned the September 11, 2001 attacks.  When asked a specific question, he replied:

"The martyr operation is the greatest of all sorts of jihad in the cause of Allah. A martyr operation is carried out by a person who sacrifices himself, deeming his life [of] less value than striving in the cause of Allah, in the cause of restoring the land and preserving the dignity. To such a valorous attitude applies the following Qur'anic verse: "And of mankind is he who would sell himself, seeking the pleasure of Allah; and Allah hath compassion on (His) bondmen." (Qur'an, 2: 207)

But a clear distinction has to be made here between martyrdom and suicide. Suicide is an act or instance of killing oneself intentionally out of despair, and finding no outlet except putting an end to one's life. On the other hand, martyrdom is a heroic act of choosing to suffer death in the cause of Allah, and that's why it's considered by most Muslim scholars as one of the greatest forms of jihad.

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-31/1
Aug 23, 2014
01:53 AM

SEBI can do only so much. Investors need to do greater due diligence.

ashok lal, mumbai
D-30/128
Aug 23, 2014
01:42 AM

" There are no words in the Quran that justify suicide missions."

Qur'an (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."

Qur'an (9:111) - "Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme."

Qur'an (2:207) - "And there is the type of man who gives his life to earn the pleasure of Allah..."

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-29/43
Aug 23, 2014
01:35 AM

"I expect we all discuss in a civilised manner. Anwaar sure has right to express his views.But I sincerely feel that he is attacked by many."

VNK Sir, do you think Anwaar is right in calling others morons, liars, despicable and similar names?

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-28/127
Aug 23, 2014
01:33 AM


D.L.Narayan,

>> " CAIR President Omar Ahmad gave a speech at a youth session praising suicide bombers who “kill themselves for Islam” (1999).

Omar Ahmad is not an authority on Islam. In 1999 no one had even heard of CAIR. Consult any authority on islam about sicide bombing. But for a persistent and shameless hate merchant like yourself any opinion that suits your false argument is fine!

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-27/49
Aug 23, 2014
01:25 AM


Ram Lala,

>> "Given the 1,300 year long history of Islamic barbarism targeted at Hindus"

You are a professional liar! And what about the 2000 year long history of your barbaric treatmnet of Dalits?

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-26/115
Aug 23, 2014
01:20 AM


Saachbolo,

>> " In Islam the intolerance towards non-muslims is not restricted to the verses in Koran ( whicch by the way they claim are words of God ) , but Islamist majority states have put them into practice."

Historically this pales in comparision with the intolerance towards Dalits in India and towards Jews in Europe. The Quranic  guiding principle (see surahs 3:28, 5:51, 29:46 and 60:8–9) is that the believers should treat the unbelievers decently and equitably as long as the latter do not act aggressively toward them. This rule has often been breached. Is that the fault of Islam. Well, I do not consider it a fault of Hinduism that you badmouth and lie about the religion of others on a daily basis. It is your personal hateful mentality. It is not the fault of Hinduism.

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-25/126
Aug 23, 2014
01:14 AM

"Suicide is not martyrdom, you moron!."....Anwaar

That is exactly what CAIR says too.

"At the Islamic Association of Palestine’s third annual convention in Chicago in November 1999, CAIR President Omar Ahmad gave a speech at a youth session praising suicide bombers who “kill themselves for Islam.” “Fighting for freedom, fighting for Islam — that is not suicide. They kill themselves for Islam, ” he said."

www.washingtontimes.com/news/2004/mar/16/20040316-085118-1135r/

Fedayeen or those who are ready to lay down their lives for their religion is the correct term. They become Shaheeds after they accomplish their mission.

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-24/42
Aug 23, 2014
12:56 AM


D.L.Narayan,

>> " opposing ideas is not an attack on persons or their right to hold a particular opinion."

Your hate prachar and attacking religions in political discussions is not the same thing as "opposing ideas". Your and Banglorean's posts are way outside the bounds of civilized discourse.

Anwaar, Dallas
D-23/12
Aug 23, 2014
12:50 AM


Akash Verma,

>> "Ever since Modi came to power, Lodha has been itching for a fight with Modi."

He is doing his job. He does not want Modi to use the same shenanigans in the process to appoint the Lokpal that he did in the appointmnet of the Gujarat Lokayukta. Sanghis of course would not like it.

Anwaar, Dallas
D-22/2
Aug 23, 2014
12:50 AM

"The significant problems we have cannot be solved at the same level of thinking with which we created them." --Einstein

To Curb Poverty In India, Governance Must be Decentralized For 1.25 Billion People. Each State In India Should Have A Separate Currency.
 

David Rukstales, Tokyo
D-21/1
Aug 23, 2014
12:48 AM

Ambedkar demanded separate state, NOT reservations for Dalits in 2nd Round Table Conference
I Have Petitioned President Obama To Direct Indian Regime To Create A Separate Nation For Untouchable People In India.

David Rukstales, Tokyo
D-20/1
Aug 23, 2014
12:45 AM

She is a Brahmin girl.
BC/SC/ST can ignore this rape case.
 

David Rukstales, Tokyo
D-19/2
Aug 23, 2014
12:43 AM


> "CBI seems to have filed a charge sheet in this case implicating four IB officers without fully verifying all the relevant facts," IB said in its affidavit."

Why not let them have their day in court?

Anwaar, Dallas
D-18/125
Aug 23, 2014
12:39 AM


Banglorean,

>> "The lure of seventy two women in heaven is too much to resist, isn't it?"

There is no mention of any 72 women in the quran, you idiot! Is your passion to insult the religion of India's second largest community so strong that you will lie and pollute this forum with your despicable hate? Shame on you!

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-17/1
Aug 23, 2014
12:35 AM

Fasting/roaming half-naked in streets are cheap tools/tricks to insult/humiliate (not defeat) British during India's Independence.
Now Indian regime will thrash you and throw you in jail if you protest with fasting.
 

David Rukstales, Tokyo
D-16/1
Aug 23, 2014
12:34 AM

You're living in a world devoid from reality if you believe what politicians are "saying" instead of finding out what they're really "doing".
Congress/BJP regimes didn't catch/prosecute Dawood/Quattrocchi. Both parties colluded and didn't get back $3.4 trillion money corrupt Indians have stashed in Swiss/foreign banks.
 

David Rukstales, Tokyo
D-15/124
Aug 23, 2014
12:33 AM


D.L.Narayan,

>>>> "" There are no words in the Quran that justify suicide missions. Suicide is strictly forbidden in Islam."

>> "Martyrs are promised the delights of paradise. Isn't that sufficient inducement?"

Suicide is not martyrdom, you moron! Seems all hatemongers have to be liars by necessity.

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-14/1
Aug 23, 2014
12:33 AM

"We're NOT accountable/responsible to anybody" --CJI

David Rukstales, Tokyo
D-13/1
Aug 23, 2014
12:31 AM

Tell YADAVS to take their Caste share of land from India and go build their own nation as per "Communal Award". They're less than 1% in India.
 

David Rukstales, Tokyo
D-12/123
Aug 23, 2014
12:31 AM


Banglorean,

>>>> "Sauds have no such authority."

>> "Are you saying they are funding and spreading hate without being authorized to do so?"

Saudis and Sanghis can spread hate but neither can tell people how to read the scriptures. Are all you questions going to be equally stupid?

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-11/2
Aug 23, 2014
12:30 AM

Gandhi family should live in India on H1B type visa as per 2nd Round Table Conference Resolution in 1932
 

David Rukstales, Tokyo
D-10/1
Aug 23, 2014
12:29 AM

Caste=Corrupt by birth.
 

David Rukstales, Tokyo
D-9/1
Aug 23, 2014
12:28 AM

Confiscate culprits money/wealth and give it to the victim for her rehabilitation.
 

David Rukstales, Tokyo
D-8/122
Aug 23, 2014
12:27 AM

''Shia Sunni politics in UP. In my personal interactions also, I have found Shias to be more civil , easy to interact and not loaded with he poison of bigotry that every sunni seems to be over-loaded with. Hindus should encourage Shias and Ismailis.''  SACHBOLO, SAACHGARH, INDIA

I have similar experiences with Shias in UK. They are far more broad minded than Sunnis. And like Bohras, and Ismailis, and Ahmedis, they are also more educated.
george
london, United Kingdom
D-7/4
Aug 23, 2014
12:27 AM

She is a Brahmin girl.
BC/SC/ST can ignore this rape case.
 

David Rukstales, Tokyo
D-6/1
Aug 23, 2014
12:24 AM

Pour petrol on these rapists and burn them alive

David Rukstales, Tokyo
D-5/16
Aug 23, 2014
12:21 AM

Blue colored avatars are only a handful and do not represent dark skinned deities. Shiva and Vishnu are early gods and do not represent dark people. Association of blue with a dark skinned race is incorrect. 13 /D - 84 is highly speculatory and most likely wrong. Aryan is not a race. Arya means a cultivated person. Aryavartha means a region where refined people reside. Devanagari is the civilized language of gods.

Parthasarathy Shakkottai
Long Beach, United States
D-4/2
Aug 23, 2014
12:15 AM

 Jaitley has committed blasphemy by terming the rape and murder of one who by virtue of her of caste was a holy cow.

The whole agitation was orchestrated by powerful caste  panchayet of India's most privileged people whose mere drop of a hat even cuases earthquakes. So everything was suspended for benefit of the rape victim. 

Arun Jaitley has disrespected her more than the indignity of rape itself!!

Adalit Speaks
NOIDA, India
D-3/15
Aug 23, 2014
12:07 AM

Ravana was uncivilized. One does not kidnap another's wife for any reason. Shurpanakhi was also uncivilized. If her love was rejected, she should have quit too. Ravana should have consoled and pacified her. Ravana was a scoundrel. I do not understand why Ravana has a temple and Gonds worship him.

Parthasarathy Shakkottai
Long Beach, United States
D-2/27
Aug 23, 2014
12:03 AM

'' If secularism—such a beautiful concept of co-relationship of people of diverse faiths—appears like an empty, dirty word in India today, the blame goes entirely to the Congress.''

This type of secularism did  not help the Muslims. It antagonized the Hindus. Politicians looked at the other way when Muslims did any wrong. Hindus got angry and went to Modi. This is happening in west Bengal and assembly election will see a major push towards BJP. Both CPM and TMC are encouraging Bangladeshi illegals to increase their vote bank aligning the Hindus, most of them are themselves refugees from East Pakistan, and later Bangladesh.   Congress is so desperate to arrest the downslide that they are clubbing with Nitish, and Laloo in Bihar. But they will have no luck. BJP will ride their rollercoaster in Bihar also.    Muslims, wherever they are, put their religious commitments before anything else, specially when they are living in non-muslim countries. They antagonize the majority everywhere. Not only in India, but also in the west. Indian muslims are Muslims first, Indian second. But for Indians in UK, we are British first, and our religious and ethnic identity comes much later. And hence Indians have no clash of civilizations with the local white people.            
george
london, United Kingdom
D-1/1
Aug 23, 2014
12:00 AM

 
> "I did not realise how brutal they were."

Let no one make that mistake about these inhuman savages.

Anwaar
Dallas, United States