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D-101/1
Aug 23, 2014
02:51 PM

What could be more fitting than a memorial in the cradle of democracy to a man who brought freedom and liberty to the largest group - barring the Chinese - of oppressed people in the world, almost entirely through peaceful and constitutional means ? It would also be a very civilised way for the empire to say sorry for the many sins of colonialism, to the martyrs of Jalianwala Bagh and the countless brave young men who went smilingly to the gallows. 

ashok lal
mumbai, India
D-100/1
Aug 23, 2014
02:32 PM

Two points, one specific to this column, the other generic. 2. The world has changed since 2008 and the commodities cycle has turned. The industrial landscape is littered with projects that will likely not be completed, because they are no longer viable, or commissioned even after completion because, say, gas is not available as fuel for a power plant. The collateral damage is huge sums of money lent by public sector banks, which will turn into NPAs. 2. The new land acquisition law is dead in the water. Private industry will have to be told to catch its own fish, with government authorities, at best, facilitating the transaction. There is a lot of wasteland. Even if its location is far from ideal, it will have to be used for industry, even future urbanisation. There are a hundred smart cities waiting to be built. India will be unable to spare rich, three crops a year land for non agricultural use for very much longer.

ashok lal
mumbai, India
D-99/3
Aug 23, 2014
02:13 PM


Saudis Must Stop Exporting Extremism: By ED HUSAIN (NYTimes)

ISIS Atrocities Started With Saudi Support for Salafi Hate

Let’s be clear: Al Qaeda, the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, Boko Haram, the Shabab and others are all violent Sunni Salafi groupings. For five decades, Saudi Arabia has been the official sponsor of Sunni Salafism across the globe.

Most Sunni Muslims around the world, approximately 90 percent of the Muslim population, are not Salafis. Salafism is seen as too rigid, too literalist, too detached from mainstream Islam. While Shiite and other denominations account for 10 percent of the total, Salafi adherents and other fundamentalists represent 3 percent of the world’s Muslims.

Unlike a majority of Sunnis, Salafis are evangelicals who wish to convert Muslims and others to their “purer” form of Islam — unpolluted, as they see it, by modernity. In this effort, they have been lavishly supported by the Saudi government, which has appointed emissaries to its embassies in Muslim countries who proselytize for Salafism. 

What is religious extremism but this aim to apply Shariah as state law? This is exactly what ISIS (Islamic State) is attempting do with its caliphate. Unless we challenge this un-Islamic, impractical and flawed concept of trying to govern by a rigid interpretation of Shariah, no amount of work by a United Nations agency can unravel Islamist terrorism.

Saudi Arabia created the monster that is Salafi terrorism. It cannot now outsource the slaying of this beast to the United Nations. It must address the theological and ideological roots of extremism at home, starting in Mecca and Medina. Reforming the home of Islam would be a giant step toward winning against extremism in this global battle of ideas.

www.nytimes.com/2014/08/23/opinion/isis-atrocities-started-with-saudi-support-for-salafi-hate.html

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-98/1
Aug 23, 2014
02:08 PM

Sometimes feel the dove is the most threatened species on the sub continent, but will continue being one to my last breath. Europe has seen even longer lasting and more bloody enmities but has now fashioned the EU. 

ashok lal
mumbai, India
D-97/2
Aug 23, 2014
01:59 PM

MOHAN BHAGWAT IS RIGHT: INDIA IS A HINDU NATION

1. Hindus shouldn’t make the mistake of considering Indian-Muslims any different from the Pakistan-Muslims. If India may dare to attack Pakistan, then 25 crore Indian Muslims will join Pakistan Forces and fight against India. (Asaduddin Owaisi, Member of Parliament, MIM, Hyderabad.)
2. In Hyderabad, our Muslim population has crossed 50%, and now we are in majority. Therefore I demand the Administration to impose restrictions on celebration of Hindu festivals such as Ram-navami, Hanuman Jayanti etc. In the Bhagya-Lakshmi temple, near Char-Minar, we have already shown our strength by stopping the ringing of the Bell/gong. We Muslims will ensure that this temple is also destroyed. (Akbaruddin Owaisi, Sansad, Majlis-e-Ittehadul-Musalmeen, (AIMIM), Hyderabad, India.)
3. Hindu-Leaders may wear a Muslim cap any number of times, but we Muslim-Leaders will never put a Tilak. Let Hindus may give any amount of respect to our Namaz, but we Muslims will surely boycott “Vande Matram”, because in Islam both Secularism & Patriotism are haram (prohibited/unclean). (Azam Khan, Leader, Samajwadi Party, U.P.)
4. In the face of our strength (might), Hindus are not able to build even a single Ram-Temple in their own country. Do Hindus have the spunk to even stall the construction of a Mosque in Saudi-Arabia, Pak or any one of the 56 Islamic countries? (Maulana Sayyad Ahmad Bukhari, Shahi Imam, Jama Masjid, Delhi.)

Read full article here -

www.indiafacts.co.in/mohan-bhagwat-right-india-hindu-nation/

Mohan
Adiipur, India
D-96/1
Aug 23, 2014
01:57 PM

Peace with Pakistan may not come in our lifetimes, but that should not be for want of effort. There is, fortunately, no binary choice between dialogue and keeping our guard up. 2. Ab thoda kam ho gaya hai, with growth falling to 4.5%, replaced in the double digit bracket by inflation, but when the sun was really shining upon our fair land, there was a great deal of condescension in our attitude to our neighbour. It would implode, fall off the map as a failed state, even as we would sink comfortably into our permanent seat at the UNSC. 3. South Asia now far surpasses sub Saharan Africa as the world's largest agglomeration of people in want. Making peace with Pakistan was never about Punjabi sentimentality. It remains an imperative of our times.

ashok lal
mumbai, India
D-95/1
Aug 23, 2014
01:42 PM

Wonderful column, follows some inspired reporting from the ground. Sreenivasan Jain is the thinking man's TV personality. 

ashok lal
mumbai, India
D-94/1
Aug 23, 2014
01:39 PM

Both Imran and Qadri are power hungry and self-deluded megalomaniacs!

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-93/1
Aug 23, 2014
01:38 PM

There is always a price tag. Sometimes wonder what the cost would have been if the visionary Comrade Deng had not made the far reaching changes he did. China would have been several multiples of North Korea. 

ashok lal
mumbai, India
D-92/58
Aug 23, 2014
01:29 PM


Saroja,

>> "You are doing the same to Hindus equating hindutvawadis to Hindus."

You are right. Here is the corrected version:

"Hindutvawadis have found a new caste to hate and discriminate against, thanks to the RSS! The new Dalits are called Muslims. Seems Hindutvawadis just can't feel good about themselves unless they have some group to look down upon!"

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-91/1
Aug 23, 2014
01:19 PM


> "The Amit Shah-Modi combine has even marginalised the RSS"

The RSS will get what it has coming! Paranoia in government circles is clearly palpable. Modi is a control-freak, reminds one of Stalin.

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-90/57
Aug 23, 2014
01:12 PM

>>Hindus have found a new caste to hate and discriminate gainst, thanks to the RSS! The new Dalits are called Muslims. Seems Hindus just can't feel good about themselves unless they have some group to look down upon! - Anwaar

Anwaar, you have shown yourself to be no better than a sanghi. The Sanghis are quoting verses out of Islamic text to blame the present day Muslims for every atrocity conducted by any Islamist. You are doing the same to Hindus equating hindutvawadis to Hindus.

R. Saroja
Bombay, India
D-89/3
Aug 23, 2014
01:04 PM

Mohan,

Thanks for posting Tufail Ahmed's article. I agree with him.

Anwaar, Dallas
D-88/8
Aug 23, 2014
01:02 PM

Aun Jaitley is wrong, utterly wrong.

He should have said it was a big incident because  Brahman girls do not face rape. 

Adalit Speaks, NOIDA
D-87/5
Aug 23, 2014
01:01 PM


The trend has been that the fringe Hindu groups soon become the mainstream Hindu groups. Saffronite voices in this forum were considered fringe groups not so long ago.

Anwaar, Dallas
D-86/56
Aug 23, 2014
01:00 PM

Anwaar,

STOP

R. Saroja
Bombay, India
D-85/117
Aug 23, 2014
12:56 PM


Saachbolo,

>> " Anwaar .... gives a view to the infidel about the workings of 'word of allah mind' or 'koranic mind'."

You truly are a moron if you think I am expounding on Allah's wods or the Quranic mind. All I am doing is answering your lies and trying to defend against the hate war that you guys have started in this forum. Instead of being ashamed of waging your hate war in a forum in which both Hindus and Muslims participate you want to make ignorant comments about my role in it! The sangh machine has truly destroyed your brains and made zombies out of you.

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-84/7
Aug 23, 2014
12:55 PM

David Rukstables (Tokyo)

Yes, you are correct. Because she was a Brahman girl, the whole community jumped to agitate and others joined to hype it. In this country media, besides bureaucracy, police judiciary, parliament  and assemblies are dominated by Brahmans. So they speeded up investigation, prosecution and trial leading to capital punishment in record time. The amendment to Juvenile Justice Act was effected to  appease and placate the Brahmans only. Her parents, sadly but actually, become celebrities. The media seek everytime their bytes. 

But the Brahmincal clans and their supporters  are so shameless as  they do not think of innumerable rapes cases of lesser mortals who do not get justice. 

The government has, we hear, built a Bhawan to be named after this Brahman rape victim. Her parents have been provided flats, huge pecuniary compensation from official funds  and public charity. They are now rich men.

When Abhijit Mukherjee, MP and a Bengali Brahman said that 'dented and painted women' had hit the streets to agitate following the Brahman's  he was strongly criticized though he was fully correct in his observations. He was severely criticised in the media because a Brahman adversely attacking agitationists in support of a Brahman victim was unexpected.

Whenever Brahman is involved in anything this country think it has to open a new chapter there with them in focus as chapter. 

Adalit Speaks, NOIDA
D-83/55
Aug 23, 2014
12:47 PM


Saachbolo,

>> "Hindus acknowledge past wrongs and continued lingering discrimination based on caste."

Hindus have found a new caste to hate and discriminate gainst, thanks to the RSS! The new Dalits are called Muslims. Seems Hindus just can't feel good about themselves unless they have some group to look down upon!

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-82/54
Aug 23, 2014
12:42 PM


Saachbolo,

>> "'Houris' (virgins ) , promised to the faithful by God in heaven, there arejust too many to post."

None authentic. The Quran does not promise any houris. The Hadiths have many stories even crazier than this one, but Hadiths were just collections of hearsay gathered over 200 years after Muhammed's death.

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-81/33
Aug 23, 2014
12:37 PM
RSM, Delhi
D-80/133
Aug 23, 2014
12:32 PM


Saachbolo,

>> "How do you "fight and slay" for Allah's cause ? What is that cause ?

These words apply only to the battles when Muhammed and his followers were viciously attacked. To use them wantonly now would be as evil as using Krishna's words to Arjun now. Killers like al-Baghdadi, Osama bin Laden and the L-e-T goons do not need any words from the holy books to do their killing. They would find some justification or another for their heinous deeds.

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-79/49
Aug 23, 2014
12:28 PM

Saroja,

You seem to think that personal abuse is the only/highest form of abuse. I beg to differ. eg Whatsinaname & I routinely trade abuse & I abuse dhimmi. It may surprise you that we do not hate each other but actually take each other seriously.

You and I disagree on almost everything, but trust me, I don't hate you. For that matter, I don't hate Anwaar either, I just believe he is a hypocrite who uses invective evrytime he loses an argument on fact. Anwaar is a leading practitioner of the legal maxim 

"If you have the facts on your side, pound the facts. If you have the law on your side, pound the law. If you have neither on your side, pound the table!"

though in his case he abuses his opponents.

I don't even hate Miss O Gynist though I delight in trashing his lies and fake statistics. He uses worse language than Anwaar - calling me a bastard and a bitch several times, though strategically disguised with *** to pass the moderators. (Note to Miss O - You needn't bother. The moderators won't intervene). I don't respond in kind because I believe such language reflects on the upbringinging of the user and not the target. (I must say however, that I have accused, in the past, Miss O of having his head so far up his ass that his brain cells have atrophied for want of oxygen)

DLN rarely abuses but he calls me a hindu hater, may be you can supply proof.

Are you? Whether you are or not is irrelevant. The point DLN has been repeatedly making is that Hinduism accepts both Hindu haters and Hindu lovers (whatever they both may be?) All can coexist pecefully in Hinduism as do beef eaters and cow protectionists for instance. My mother in law was a strict vegetarian, my father in law would not eat if there was no non-veg on the table. My MIL would cook non-veg but ask someone else to taste it. When I was first married and moved to Mumbai, some younger cousins, strict veg at home, would slip across to our house to eat what they didn't get at home. This is not to preach the superiority of Hinduism over other religions - it is just a statement of fact. Anway, I'll keep an eye on DLN's posts and admonish hime the next time he calls you a "hindu hater". Incidentally you don't seem offended by the appelation of "Bi" which, insofar as you are concerned is definitely not a term of respect.

I don't know about sharing information, because neither side believes what the other posts. I, for one, disregard anything you source from Kafila or truths ofgujarat.com (now defunct I suppose). This magazine itself has discredited itself with its blatantly one sided coverage, Opinion pieces are fine provided they are balanced with the opposing view point. We should be thankful that the magazine allows its readers to trash the garbage put out by the likes of Saba Naqvi, Kancha Illiah, S Anand etc.

Bonita, Chennai
D-78/48
Aug 23, 2014
12:23 PM

>>but can I make a guess about one of the communities involved in this clash? I'm pretty sure it is the adherents of the religion of peace

Now you can go through all the comments and the news reports. All religions claim to be peaceful and Buddha says

Hatred does not cease by hatred, but only by love; this is the eternal rule.

But some of those who claim to be his followers have been seduced by the power of mob mentality.

R. Saroja, Bombay
D-77/32
Aug 23, 2014
12:22 PM

ISIS beheads a journalist in the most gruesome manner and our Teesta Setalvad tweets a picture of ISIS beheading comparing with goddess Kali and equates ISIS with Hindu gods and consequent Hindu fundamentalism. Although she deletes the tweet after giving the most idiotic excuse, one can see how this bigot thinks and why she is has been the favourite of the seculars, congressis and jihadis over the last 12 years.

RSM, Delhi
D-76/132
Aug 23, 2014
12:22 PM


D.L.Narayan,

>> "How about Sheikh Yousef Qaradawi".

When did martyrdom become a synonym for suicide? "Shahid" is an honorable apellation in India. Even one of Batra's pseudo-history books , now recommended reading in Gujarat schools, extols giving one's life in a good cause. So why are you surprised when I question your I.Q.?

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-75/1
Aug 23, 2014
12:13 PM


D.L.Narayan,

>> "There are no words in the Quran that justify suicide missions."

None of your three quotes from he Quran is about suicide. Why then are you surprised when I call you a moron?

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-74/1
Aug 23, 2014
12:08 PM

> ".... Pakistan, where seven journalists were murdered in connection with their work in 2013".

This is terrible!

Anwaar, Dallas
D-73/3
Aug 23, 2014
12:02 PM
Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-72/2
Aug 23, 2014
11:58 AM

 
R.I.P.
 

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-71/47
Aug 23, 2014
11:54 AM

I didn't read this report and came straight to the Comments section, but can I make a guess about one of the communities involved in this clash? I'm pretty sure it is the adherents of the religion of peace.

Ganwaar, Ganwaarpur
D-70/19
Aug 23, 2014
11:51 AM

Partha,

I do not know where to start. First thing is you need primer both in Mythology as well as history of Hindustan. For starter. Shiva is oldest of the Gods and has origins in Pre-vedic culture and has no mention in Vedas. Vishnu's elevation as one of the primary God of hindus is a later event, as during initial days Vishnu was minor God in Rigveda, far smaller in stature to Indra who was the chief Gods of Vedic people.

Also for your assesrtion of very few darker Gods, you should take some time out and go for tirath in India, 90% of the temples have their chief deity in dark color. you can go to see neelamadhav in Puri/ or Lord badri in badrinath or meenakshi temple etc. Lord Ram, Lord,  Krishan, Lord Shiva. have pan india presence and probably are have largest number of temples. These three Gods are always depicted as dark. As for Vishnu most of his avatars are Dark gods.

sachin
New delhi, India
D-69/18
Aug 23, 2014
11:31 AM

Partha,

Why hate Ravan so much beside kidnapping Sita he cannot be accused of any other wrong doing? As for the "civilized" behaviour, How much "civilized" was it on behalf of Lord Ram to abondon a pregnant Sita after waging a war for her in which large number of people died on both sides and making her go through Agnipariksha. The act was so "un-civilized" that eventually Sita preferred a refuge in mother earth than to go back to Lord.

sachin
New delhi, India
D-68/22
Aug 23, 2014
11:30 AM

deshgujarat.com/2014/08/22/why-teesta-setalvad-was-trending-today-on-social-media/

At time it feels, majority Hindus of this country have become a lamp post where any dog can come and urinate.

First it was Rahul Gandhi who this week said those going to mandir and calling women as mother and sister are same who abuse women in buses.

Then today Teesta Setalvad, wife of Javed Anand posting a picture today insulting Hindu goddesses and gods in reference to worst Islamic terror organization ISIS.

Whats InAName
San Francisco, United States
D-67/17
Aug 23, 2014
11:23 AM

Akash,

The "Proper" Ramayans also tells us that Ravan had 10 heads, had a flying machine, Jaytayau had wings and could fly, stones could flot in water and Lord Hanuman was a non-human entity, a Vanar. None of which i have ever witnessed in my life and am positive that you may also have not witnessed that. Neither any amount of logical inference can point to existence of such things/phenomenon. I accept it on basis of faith, a suspended belief that someday all of this may turn out to be correct. Please note in Hindustan there are hundreds of "Proper" Ramayans, why only stick to one narrative. There is a difference between reading text and understanding the text. I think i can demarcate between the original story and addtions made to the story to further vested interest.

sachin
New delhi, India
D-66/4
Aug 23, 2014
11:16 AM

The sickos milked Gandhi's death for several decades. They shall try to do the same this time as long as they can.

Whats InAName
San Francisco, United States
D-65/2
Aug 23, 2014
11:08 AM

>> There are only two situations when Pakistan army fires at Intermational borders. When talks between India and Pakistan are scheduled and when talks are not scheduled.

Brilliant.

Whats InAName
San Francisco, United States
D-64/46
Aug 23, 2014
11:05 AM

>>If Anwaar were to abjure from personal abuse and argu eissues on their merits

I second to that!

>>rather than ascribe motives

At least not more than once in a while.

Bonita,

You seem to think that personal abuse is the only/highest form of abuse. I beg to differ. eg Whatsinaname & I routinely trade abuse & I abuse dhimmi. It may surprise you that we do not hate each other but actually take each other seriously. DLN rarely abuses but he calls me a hindu hater, may be you can supply proof. Now the fault of Anwaar is that he does not distinguish between Whatsinaname, dhimmi, DLN, Ghai etc. When most of the sickulars were gloating over the hanging of Afzal Guru, it was the sanghi whatsinaname who considered the possibility of miscarriage of justice. He also was horrified at the behaviour of some of the karsevaks in the train to Ayodhya. 

In fact the sickulars and sanghis should engage with each other in trading information. ( That is possible only if you do not selectively quote truth). This is very important as for a long time, sources of info are drying up and "analysis" by "experts" not on the ground pass for news. 

R. Saroja
Bombay, India
D-63/2
Aug 23, 2014
10:16 AM

The rise of global Islamism

By Tufail Ahmad

Published: 06th Ju3

 

Islamism is a cultural and political movement aimed at eradicating secular and democratic ethos of a society in a bid to pave the way for Islamic ascendancy. It introduces exhibitionist religiosity in people’s lives: there is no issue if a woman wears a burqa, but the problem is a body of religious and political ideas that makes her choose such a dress code. Subsequently, these ideas begin to strike at the roots of individual liberty, women’s freedom, rights of non-Muslims and a free press. The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language defines Islamism as an “Islamic revivalist movement, often characterised by moral conservatism, literalism, and the attempt to implement Islamic values in all spheres of life”. It is pertinent here to look at recent examples of how Islamism unfolds in everyday life.

In 2010, Islamists in Kerala chopped off the hand of college lecturer T J Joseph for setting a question paper which they deemed as disrespecting Prophet Muhammad. In 2011, Islamists led by Syed Ahmed Bukhari forced an exhibition on the “Koran in 53 languages”, organised by Ahmadiyya Jamaat in Delhi, to be shut. Not long ago, actor-producer Kamal Hassan was compelled by Islamists in Tamil Nadu to edit his movie Vishwaroopam for showing that jihadists recited Koranic verses before launching attacks. In May, tens of thousands of Bangladeshis led by Islamist group Hefajat-e-Islam marched through Dhaka, demanding stricter blasphemy laws. Pakistani media is full of reports of Hindu girls being converted to Islam forcibly, Christians being accused of blasphemy, homes and mosques of Ahmadi Muslims being vandalised, Shias being declared infidels and murdered.

In Egypt, Islamists are targeting Christians through lawsuits, accusing them of blaspheming Islam, and liberal Muslims are quitting government jobs. In Egypt’s Sinai Peninsula, Islamists killed a man for selling alcohol recently. In Tunisia, Islamists desecrated Jewish cemeteries, and attacked art galleries and cinemas. In Turkey, Islamists stabbed couples who kissed in an Ankara metro station recently to protest against moral policing by Turkish authorities. To make a point, Turkey is building a $100-million mega mosque in America. Jordan is witnessing public demonstrations by Islamists. In a British prison, an Islamist inmate recruited two others to beat up guards in May. In all these cases, there is a single binding factor: Islam. The jihadists of Al-Qaeda variety and Islamists share the same ideological objectives, with the only distinction being that the former are armed and consider themselves fighting on a battlefield against infidels. Their goal is: establishing Sharia rule. Islamism is a softer face of jihadists, sometimes masquerading as liberal Islam in our midst.

Driven by an ideological longing to revive the glory of Islamic caliphate, Islamists are open to using Western tools of election, constitution and the rule of law in introducing Islam in a country’s politics, governance, literature, culture and architecture. Their tactic is to win an election, re-write a country’s constitution to make it compliant with Islam and begin Islamising. Inspired by the success of Islamists in the Arab Spring, even the Taliban are open to using referendums and elections as a tactic.

Last March, Mullah Agha Jan Mutasim, an aide to Mullah Omar, indicated that the Taliban might form a party, noting: “We must launch a political movement to achieve the goals for which we have made so many sacrifices.” Tempted by the rise of Egyptian Islamists, Barelvi scholar Tahirul Qadri returned to Pakistan last December from his self-exile in Canada to engineer a Cairo-like mass uprising in Islamabad, unsuccessfully though, to grab power. “Far from rendering Islamism unnecessary,” writes US academic John M Owen IV, “the Arab Spring has increased its credibility.”

In the past, Islamists have tried to revive the glory of Islam in the political sphere. Such efforts were dubbed as revivalism, fundamentalism, political Islam, extremist Islam, radical Islam and likewise. In the modern democratic era, Islamism is emerging as a distinct attempt to comprehend the meanings of power in all its industrial, corporate and military complexities, as signified by the West.

On the danger of Islamism in post-9/11 years, noted Islamic affairs expert Francis Robinson warns: “[Islamists] understood the issue of power, but in engaging with the West they were deemed to be willing to sacrifice too much that was essential to Islam and Muslim culture. Islamists saw the real danger as Western civilisation itself. Their real enemies were the secular or modernist elites in Muslim societies who collaborated with Western political, economic and cultural forces.”

Commenting on the phenomenon of Islamism, Mehdi Mozaffari of the University Aarhus observes: “Prior to the Islamist revolution in Iran in 1978–79, the terms ‘Islamism’ and ‘Islamists’ are… practically absent from the vocabulary of newspaper reporters.” Now, Islamism is becoming vigorous. For the Islamist parties that rose to power amid the Arab Spring, a policy prototype was readily available from Iran in policies implemented after the 1979 Islamic Revolution, from Turkey where the Islamist Justice and Development Party won 2002 elections and is removing liberal influences from public life, and from Gaza where Hamas captured power through elections to impose Sharia.

In its new avatar, Islamism is also a legal attempt to redefine the relationship between Islam and the state, and between the state and citizens. In 2011, former Islamist Maajid Nawaz observed: “Islamism is the idea that seeks to implement one interpretation of Islam over the rest of society by law. Some Islamists seek to do this through politicking and others through violence.”

In the wake of Arab Spring, Cairo-based journalist Heba Saleh wrote that Islamism does not represent a “broad range of opinion” of people to evolve consensus on government policy-making. In the conception of Islamists, non-Muslim citizens are not permitted to govern or head an Islamic state. Kevin B Anderson, an expert on the Iranian Revolution, sums up: Islamism has “many features and faces, everywhere it is anti-feminist, everywhere it is authoritarian, and everywhere it is intolerant of other religions.”

Mohan, Adiipur
D-62/2
Aug 23, 2014
10:10 AM

Bhagwati J as he then was did not sit on the Bench that heard Olga Tellis; Chandrachud CJI who presided was with the majority. 

kannan srinivasan
melbourne, Australia
D-61/15
Aug 23, 2014
10:09 AM

I completely agree with Akshay's assessment of CJ Lodha. Ever since he became the CJI, he is looking for confrontation with the government. It first started with Gopal Subramanian where government's reservations were shown to be 'interfering' with the judiciary. Second, Lodha spoke about fast tracking cases against MPs but when Modi wanted the same, he did a shameful somersault. Third, over the last few years there was debate and consensus on the failure of the collegium system. Almost every judge and SC lawyer was of the view that the collegium system was a constitutional aberration. Now when the NDA government passed the JAC Bill in both houses with overwhelming majority, our dear CJI starts lamenting the demise of the collegium system! And finally, after dismissing a PIL on LOP a couple of weeks ago, Lodha starts telling us about his personal imaginations about the LOP.

As usual, on each of these issues the MSM never pointed out CJI's hypocrisy, but created a narrative that the Judiciary is slamming the government for trying to usurp its powers.

RSM, Delhi
D-60/3
Aug 23, 2014
10:03 AM

Well, he kept his word, but not necessarily in the way he wanted though....

Non Fanatic, London
D-59/45
Aug 23, 2014
09:57 AM

VNKM,

Is Anwaar more sinned against that sinning in the issue of name calling? Let's analyse today's posts for personal abuse.

D/15 - Anwaar to DLN : you moron! Seems all hatemongers have to be liars by necessity.

D/18 - Anwaar to Bangalorean : you will lie and pollute this forum with your despicable hate? Shame on you!

D/24 - Anwaar to Bangalorean : Your hate prachar and attacking religions in political discussions is not the same thing as "opposing ideas". Your and Banglorean's posts are way outside the bounds of civilized discourse.

D/26 - Anwaar to Saachbolo : your personal hateful mentality.

D/27 - Anwaar to Ram Lala : You are a professional liar!

D/28 - Anwaar to DLN : shameless hate merchant like yourself

D/41 - Saachbolo quoting Ram lala (referring to Anwaar) : CAIR pracharak.

D/42 - WIAN (referring to Anwaar) : Jehadi too.

D/45 - Saachbolo (describing Anwaar) : He is a thug to the core and utterly dishonest.

Now as an independent observer and one who is unfailingly polite, you judge and tell us who uses abuse as a basic tool for argument. The funny thing is that DLN NEVER uses personal invective, yet he is the target of the most abuse. His offence - He poke holes in Anwaar's sanctimonious arguments by quoting inconvenient bits and pieces of Islamic scriptures which, notwithstanding Anwaar's claims to the contrary, are followed to the letter by the majority of Muslims, or if not the majority by the vocal minority which controls and leads the ummah.

Anwaar is the staunchest defender of CAIR and is called "CAIR pracharak" for his pains. Yet when DLN quoted a CAIR president's exhortation to the faithful, Anwaar's response was, 

Omar Ahmad is not an authority on Islam. In 1999 no one had even heard of CAIR. Consult any authority on islam about sicide bombing. But for a persistent and shameless hate merchant like yourself any opinion that suits your false argument is fine!

To argue that the fame or rather lack of it of an organisation makes its leader's remarks more acceptable is hilarious. Incidentally DLN has quoted from an eminent Muslim critic saying exactly the same thing as Omar Ahmed and Anwaar has fortunately not had the gall to dismiss this cleric as unrepresentative.

If Anwaar were to abjure from personal abuse and argu eissues on their merits rather than ascribe motives, we could have a civilised debate. Incidentally Anwaar's behaviour in this forum is similar to the behaviour of many of his co-religionists in the wider world. He uses personal abuse to attack anyone who disagrees with him. His brothers outside use violence.

Bonita, Chennai
D-58/2
Aug 23, 2014
09:43 AM


 

What they are doing is abhorable, but I won't be surprised that secularists try to put blame on Modi/BJP for their action. 

Mohan, Adiipur
D-57/3
Aug 23, 2014
09:42 AM

What they are doing is abhorable, but I won't be surprised that secularists try to put blame on Modi/BJP for their action. 

Mohan, Adiipur
D-56/2
Aug 23, 2014
09:26 AM

Jesus turned water into wine. Now everyone in Kerala  is praying to him to turn their water at home into their choice of daru. 

Mohan, Adiipur
D-55/1
Aug 23, 2014
09:14 AM

There are only two situations when Pakistan army fires at Intermational borders. When talks between India and Pakistan are scheduled and when talks are not scheduled. 

Mohan
Adiipur, India
D-54/1
Aug 23, 2014
08:25 AM

Nah, no 'controversy' there.

It is just that left loonies sitting on ideological high table are finding solace in a fringe group of 8-10 persons, for their survival and relevance.

Santosh Gairola
Hsinchu, Taiwan
D-53/1
Aug 23, 2014
07:44 AM
Nutcases.

URA was a great man, his stupid outburst notwithstanding. It did no one any harm.In fact it probably helped NaMo. It's one thing to mock URA by sending him a ticket. I thought it was funny. However, it's plain boorish to "celebrate" his passing. The 'celebrants" realize how obnoxious their behaviour would be perceived which is why they've hidden their faces. Their act is not illegal, merely revolting.

Bonita, Chennai
D-52/2
Aug 23, 2014
07:39 AM

BAN RELIGION

CELEBRATE LIFE!

Misogynist
Chennai, India
D-51/6
Aug 23, 2014
07:37 AM

No one can speak the truth about the anti male hyper reporting that has been rampantly increased in the media recently.

Anyone daring to speak his mind about the hyper reporting must be willing to have his character assasinated by the media 'terrorists'.

Misogynist, Chennai
D-50/14
Aug 23, 2014
07:13 AM

The SC can interpret laws. It cannot tell the Speaker what he/she may do in the House. Unless the SC is itching for a constitutional confrontation, the solution is very simple. Let the SC rule that wherever the term "LoP"is used in any statute, it shall mean the leader of the single opposition party where the Speaker has not "recognised" any person as Leader of the Opposition. This should take care of any concerns that the voice of the opposition is not being heard.

Driving to a meeting in a car with the National Flag (a perk of holding LoP position) is not going to get that voice any more respect. It didn't help Sushma Swaraj whose legitimate reasoned dissent was arrogantly dismissed by Maun Moan and Chiddu in selecting "Tainted" Thomas as CVC..

Once the SC makes such a ruling, selection of Lokpal can go ahead and the laws amended later.

Bonita, Chennai
D-49/44
Aug 23, 2014
05:57 AM

29 D L Narayan Sir
I dont agree of such name calling.
Have a nice day

V.N.K.Murti Pattambi
PATTAMBI, India
D-48/28
Aug 23, 2014
05:30 AM

All  measures ( secularism, equal rights , democracy )  to fight islamic fascism in S Asia have failed so far. If you want to deal with Islamic fascism you have to speak in their language that they understand.  The question is , is receding Hindu majority India, capable of that ?

SaachBolo
SaachGarh, India
D-47/3
Aug 23, 2014
05:27 AM

Somebody said each state must have its own currency, own passport, own army, own navy, own space program, own flag, own constitution and own collapse state economies and own death. Indian economy will collapse. This is the most idiotic comment I have heard in a long time.

Parthasarathy Shakkottai, Long Beach
D-46/14
Aug 23, 2014
05:23 AM

Ofcourse 'its not about the numbers' ! Or else how could the cruel, genocidal,minority islamic rule would have survived in South Asia, for so long as it did ?

Of course islamists and their lickers like saroja want minority rule back.

SaachBolo
SaachGarh, India
D-45/116
Aug 23, 2014
04:58 AM

The fun or the benefit of discussing religion and politics with Anwaar is a gives a view to the infidel about the workings of 'word of allah mind'  or 'koranic mind'. He is throughly dishonest. Won't acknowledge the vicious and venal nature of islamic states.Would compare Hindus and Hinduism, which has not retaliated against muslims even as muslims have perpetrated genocuide against Hindus in every muslim majority area of Indian subcontinent. No he wont acknowledge the imalayan contrast about how a Hindu majority state has treated muslims with how Islamic majority states have treated Hindus.

He is a thug to the core and utterly dishonest. The terrorists of ISIS , violent and criminal as they are, can't be more dishonest and duplicitous than people like Anwaar. There is lies a lesson for all non-muslims of India.

Regarding dallits in India, no Hnduism did not exterminate them as muslims have done to non-muslims. Hindus have recognized the injustice and have taken steps to correct it. So while upper caste Hindus can be ashamed of the past discrimination they can be proud of the corrrective steps taken. They can be also proud of not perpetrating genocide against muslims while muslims have perpetrated genocide against Hindus in every muslim majority area in South Asia.

Of course dishonest to the core Anwaar would never acknowledge it as he is condemned to live in a world of lies by repeating 'word of god' - 5 times a day.

SaachBolo
SaachGarh, India
D-44/5
Aug 23, 2014
03:30 AM

It was likely more than just tourism dollars. A friend of mine, (originally from Netherlands), was to travel to India around that time. She was quite excited, and was really looking forward to it. With all the news, she backed out.

Maybe they sent someone else in her place. However, there might have been some business loss too (in the long term probably more costly).

Despite that, Jaitley's statement was extremely stupid, and worse, grossly insensitive. One of the rare times when I actually thought the hyperventilating, breathless media people were doing good. Tourism or business dollars are not as important as safety of citizens. If the media expose can make our streets safer, not only will it be good for citizens, over time, it shall be good for tourism and business dollars too.

Whats InAName, San Francisco
D-43/13
Aug 23, 2014
03:27 AM

How can Indians have respect for your clan when they have been in cahoots with likes of Teesta Shitalwad who have made living out peddling lies in pursuit  anti-Majoritysm and anti-Modism? Till eheir lies were exposed, people belived in you..but you cannot hide truth for too long as that's what happened in India in the recent elections. 

Teesta Shitalwad, the darling of India secularists, tweeted a picture today where she was equating the barbaric Islamic state terrorists( who killed innocent American Journalist..apart from hundreds of Shias) with Kali, the Hindu Goddess worshiped by Bengalees. This has exposed both, her Jehadi Sympathies and her attitude towards majority of people of India and the U.S.

Indian_Voter
Nanded, India
D-42/53
Aug 23, 2014
03:24 AM

>> Hindus acknowledge past wrongs

Jehadi too.

He too acknowledges past wrongs of the Hindus :-)

See his response.

Whats InAName
San Francisco, United States
D-41/52
Aug 23, 2014
03:14 AM

Ram Lala wrote

"Given the 1,300 year long history of Islamic barbarism targeted at Hindus, this squeak from the CAIR pracharak is as disgusting as a Brahmin calling Dalits bigots if they highlight the barbarism of caste discrimination in Hinduism."

Perfect. Hindus acknowledge past wrongs and continued lingering discrimination based on caste and have taken corrrective measures including reverse discrimination against upper-castes to help the dalits - giving them reservation in jobs, educational institutions.

What are islamists doing to undo the genocide of Hindus and other minorities or are they persisting with the same murderous ways as they did in 7th century and since then against infidels, idol worshippers ?

SaachBolo
SaachGarh, India
D-40/51
Aug 23, 2014
03:09 AM

Regarding Islamic / Koranic verses on 'Houris' (virgins ) , promised to the faithful by God in heaven, there arejust  too many to post. Some pretty graphic and do not paint a positive picture of what Gos is all about. Once again , the verses mean nothing were it not the fact of the insistence by the muslims that they are 'word of God' - even as they portray God as a very megalomaniac , violent , vengeful entity showering 'houris/virgins' on the faithful and death/destruction on those that do not acknowledge him.

SaachBolo
SaachGarh, India
D-39/3
Aug 23, 2014
03:05 AM

My God, how many girls and women of the world screwed Miso how badly that he has developed soooo much hatred for the entire female gender !! It is beyond imigination.  In previous life he must be one of those male insect which gets eaten by the female during the mating itself. 

P.B. Joshipura, Suffolk, Virginia
D-38/204
Aug 23, 2014
02:56 AM

If Muslims are turning to terrorism, it’s because they lack in education, they are treated as second-class citizens and rarely get jobs in the private sector. Hindus should, in fact, treasure Muslims in India for having stayed back after Partition. Here’s some advice from a saying by some elders: “Don’t hit a cat that’s in a closed room; finding no esc­ape, it will leap for your throat.”  M. ZAKIR, ON E-MAIL

If Muslims lack education, whose fault is that? But this does not happen in India only.In USA, Canada and Europe, Muslims literacy rate is pretty low and hence they have high unemployment rate.  A large number of taxi drivers in UK and North America are Muslims. And to your next point. Muslims have done a favour to themselves by staying in India. Hindus in India would be happier with less Muslims than they have right now.Just look at Pakistan and see what happened to the Biharis who migrated to East Pakistan. Even today, they are in camps in Dhaka. If you do not believe what I said, and I am sure you will not, ask MJAkbar.
george
london, United Kingdom
D-37/131
Aug 23, 2014
02:42 AM

@Anwaar

Qur'an (9:111) - "Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:

How do you "fight and slay" for Allah's cause ? What is that cause ? Isn't Muhammadans slaying in the cause of Allah since 7th century ? How much more slaying do they need to do ?

SaachBolo
SaachGarh, India
D-36/21
Aug 23, 2014
02:32 AM

>> Is it true that Teesta has apologized for the photshop?

She said image was still being worked on, and got uploaded by mistake.

Seems like we got only the trailer. Wonder how the full movie might have been.

BTW, where are the Teesta apologists? They are curiously silent.

Whats InAName
San Francisco, United States
D-35/50
Aug 23, 2014
02:29 AM

>> However in this forum, these activists are called thieves, jehadists and bitches

If these activists, and their bhakts and bhaktins refrained from labeling anyone who disagreed with them as Nazis, fascists, casteists, Moditards, etc., their whinings shall actually be taken in the proper spirit, instead of generating amusement and condescension. If they engage in proper debate without name calling, and spit and scoot tactics, they might even have a civilized discussion with people of opposing views.

Whats InAName
San Francisco, United States
D-34/13
Aug 23, 2014
02:19 AM

>> He is doing his job. He does not want Modi to use the same shenanigans in the process to appoint the Lokpal that he did in the appointmnet of the Gujarat Lokayukta.

The judiciary had disgraced itself in the Gujarat Lokayukta case. Hope it doesn't do the same this time too.

Whats InAName
San Francisco, United States
D-33/130
Aug 23, 2014
02:15 AM

>> In 1999 no one had even heard of CAIR

So they could show their real ugly face. Now, after some members being convicted, and links with terror organizations being suspected, they have to be more circumspect, and put on a liberal mask, which does slip from time to time (as in the recent Brandeis university case).

Whats InAName
San Francisco, United States
D-32/129
Aug 23, 2014
02:09 AM

"Consult any authority on islam about sicide bombing."..... Anwaar

How about Sheikh Yousef Qaradawi,  a 78-year-old Egyptian cleric and preacher, with a history of activism in the Muslim Brethren. He was forced from Egypt for his views, and he lives in Qatar, where he has become a media star by virtue of his immensely popular television show on Al-Jazeera television. Dr. Qaradawi has sometimes been portrayed as a moderate, who favors a tolerant Islam and who would reconcile Islam with modernity. For example, he condemned the September 11, 2001 attacks.  When asked a specific question, he replied:

"The martyr operation is the greatest of all sorts of jihad in the cause of Allah. A martyr operation is carried out by a person who sacrifices himself, deeming his life [of] less value than striving in the cause of Allah, in the cause of restoring the land and preserving the dignity. To such a valorous attitude applies the following Qur'anic verse: "And of mankind is he who would sell himself, seeking the pleasure of Allah; and Allah hath compassion on (His) bondmen." (Qur'an, 2: 207)

But a clear distinction has to be made here between martyrdom and suicide. Suicide is an act or instance of killing oneself intentionally out of despair, and finding no outlet except putting an end to one's life. On the other hand, martyrdom is a heroic act of choosing to suffer death in the cause of Allah, and that's why it's considered by most Muslim scholars as one of the greatest forms of jihad.

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-31/1
Aug 23, 2014
01:53 AM

SEBI can do only so much. Investors need to do greater due diligence.

ashok lal, mumbai
D-30/128
Aug 23, 2014
01:42 AM

" There are no words in the Quran that justify suicide missions."

Qur'an (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."

Qur'an (9:111) - "Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme."

Qur'an (2:207) - "And there is the type of man who gives his life to earn the pleasure of Allah..."

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-29/43
Aug 23, 2014
01:35 AM

"I expect we all discuss in a civilised manner. Anwaar sure has right to express his views.But I sincerely feel that he is attacked by many."

VNK Sir, do you think Anwaar is right in calling others morons, liars, despicable and similar names?

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-28/127
Aug 23, 2014
01:33 AM


D.L.Narayan,

>> " CAIR President Omar Ahmad gave a speech at a youth session praising suicide bombers who “kill themselves for Islam” (1999).

Omar Ahmad is not an authority on Islam. In 1999 no one had even heard of CAIR. Consult any authority on islam about sicide bombing. But for a persistent and shameless hate merchant like yourself any opinion that suits your false argument is fine!

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-27/49
Aug 23, 2014
01:25 AM


Ram Lala,

>> "Given the 1,300 year long history of Islamic barbarism targeted at Hindus"

You are a professional liar! And what about the 2000 year long history of your barbaric treatmnet of Dalits?

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-26/115
Aug 23, 2014
01:20 AM


Saachbolo,

>> " In Islam the intolerance towards non-muslims is not restricted to the verses in Koran ( whicch by the way they claim are words of God ) , but Islamist majority states have put them into practice."

Historically this pales in comparision with the intolerance towards Dalits in India and towards Jews in Europe. The Quranic  guiding principle (see surahs 3:28, 5:51, 29:46 and 60:8–9) is that the believers should treat the unbelievers decently and equitably as long as the latter do not act aggressively toward them. This rule has often been breached. Is that the fault of Islam. Well, I do not consider it a fault of Hinduism that you badmouth and lie about the religion of others on a daily basis. It is your personal hateful mentality. It is not the fault of Hinduism.

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-25/126
Aug 23, 2014
01:14 AM

"Suicide is not martyrdom, you moron!."....Anwaar

That is exactly what CAIR says too.

"At the Islamic Association of Palestine’s third annual convention in Chicago in November 1999, CAIR President Omar Ahmad gave a speech at a youth session praising suicide bombers who “kill themselves for Islam.” “Fighting for freedom, fighting for Islam — that is not suicide. They kill themselves for Islam, ” he said."

www.washingtontimes.com/news/2004/mar/16/20040316-085118-1135r/

Fedayeen or those who are ready to lay down their lives for their religion is the correct term. They become Shaheeds after they accomplish their mission.

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
D-24/42
Aug 23, 2014
12:56 AM


D.L.Narayan,

>> " opposing ideas is not an attack on persons or their right to hold a particular opinion."

Your hate prachar and attacking religions in political discussions is not the same thing as "opposing ideas". Your and Banglorean's posts are way outside the bounds of civilized discourse.

Anwaar, Dallas
D-23/12
Aug 23, 2014
12:50 AM


Akash Verma,

>> "Ever since Modi came to power, Lodha has been itching for a fight with Modi."

He is doing his job. He does not want Modi to use the same shenanigans in the process to appoint the Lokpal that he did in the appointmnet of the Gujarat Lokayukta. Sanghis of course would not like it.

Anwaar, Dallas
D-22/2
Aug 23, 2014
12:50 AM

"The significant problems we have cannot be solved at the same level of thinking with which we created them." --Einstein

To Curb Poverty In India, Governance Must be Decentralized For 1.25 Billion People. Each State In India Should Have A Separate Currency.
 

David Rukstales, Tokyo
D-21/1
Aug 23, 2014
12:48 AM

Ambedkar demanded separate state, NOT reservations for Dalits in 2nd Round Table Conference
I Have Petitioned President Obama To Direct Indian Regime To Create A Separate Nation For Untouchable People In India.

David Rukstales, Tokyo
D-20/1
Aug 23, 2014
12:45 AM

She is a Brahmin girl.
BC/SC/ST can ignore this rape case.
 

David Rukstales, Tokyo
D-19/2
Aug 23, 2014
12:43 AM


> "CBI seems to have filed a charge sheet in this case implicating four IB officers without fully verifying all the relevant facts," IB said in its affidavit."

Why not let them have their day in court?

Anwaar, Dallas
D-18/125
Aug 23, 2014
12:39 AM


Banglorean,

>> "The lure of seventy two women in heaven is too much to resist, isn't it?"

There is no mention of any 72 women in the quran, you idiot! Is your passion to insult the religion of India's second largest community so strong that you will lie and pollute this forum with your despicable hate? Shame on you!

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-17/1
Aug 23, 2014
12:35 AM

Fasting/roaming half-naked in streets are cheap tools/tricks to insult/humiliate (not defeat) British during India's Independence.
Now Indian regime will thrash you and throw you in jail if you protest with fasting.
 

David Rukstales, Tokyo
D-16/1
Aug 23, 2014
12:34 AM

You're living in a world devoid from reality if you believe what politicians are "saying" instead of finding out what they're really "doing".
Congress/BJP regimes didn't catch/prosecute Dawood/Quattrocchi. Both parties colluded and didn't get back $3.4 trillion money corrupt Indians have stashed in Swiss/foreign banks.
 

David Rukstales, Tokyo
D-15/124
Aug 23, 2014
12:33 AM


D.L.Narayan,

>>>> "" There are no words in the Quran that justify suicide missions. Suicide is strictly forbidden in Islam."

>> "Martyrs are promised the delights of paradise. Isn't that sufficient inducement?"

Suicide is not martyrdom, you moron! Seems all hatemongers have to be liars by necessity.

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-14/1
Aug 23, 2014
12:33 AM

"We're NOT accountable/responsible to anybody" --CJI

David Rukstales, Tokyo
D-13/1
Aug 23, 2014
12:31 AM

Tell YADAVS to take their Caste share of land from India and go build their own nation as per "Communal Award". They're less than 1% in India.
 

David Rukstales, Tokyo
D-12/123
Aug 23, 2014
12:31 AM


Banglorean,

>>>> "Sauds have no such authority."

>> "Are you saying they are funding and spreading hate without being authorized to do so?"

Saudis and Sanghis can spread hate but neither can tell people how to read the scriptures. Are all you questions going to be equally stupid?

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-11/2
Aug 23, 2014
12:30 AM

Gandhi family should live in India on H1B type visa as per 2nd Round Table Conference Resolution in 1932
 

David Rukstales, Tokyo
D-10/1
Aug 23, 2014
12:29 AM

Caste=Corrupt by birth.
 

David Rukstales, Tokyo
D-9/1
Aug 23, 2014
12:28 AM

Confiscate culprits money/wealth and give it to the victim for her rehabilitation.
 

David Rukstales, Tokyo