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D-81/7
Sep 18, 2014
11:07 PM


Is Xi a Santa Claus or a Trojan Horse?
 

Anwaar, Dallas
D-80/5
Sep 18, 2014
11:05 PM


This is a good time to raise the issue because of China-Japan-India triangulation.
 

Anwaar, Dallas
D-79/119
Sep 18, 2014
10:38 PM

In India if any business house wants to invest to preserve the Martand sun temple, it will be immediately be branded that its a right-wing-Hindu business house and non-BJP government , where ever they are in power, will start prosecuting the business house and harassing it.

Kashmiri muslims will brand just maintenance and restoration efforts of the Temple , razed to the ground by muslim rulers, as attempts to spread Hindu hegimony. Islamist militants mat attack and kill tthe laborers.  Thats the pathetic situation that Hindus have built for hemselves in India.

SuchBolo
Such Garh, India
D-78/2
Sep 18, 2014
10:29 PM

Why should the government continue to pamper only feminists?

Does the term 'widower' not exist too?

misogynist, chennai
D-77/118
Sep 18, 2014
09:55 PM

Dear DC

Thank you.

The media in India has become so cynical there is hardly any agency that we can see as benign and trustworthy. The moment any private company or corporation expresses interest to adopt a museum  , immediately there will be debates on 24x 7 channels how many valuable exhibits the company has eyed? Duplicity and double speak is the order of the day . Damned you and damned you don't do. Till some maturity comes to the media no worthy private public partnership is possible. Since you live in USA, I wish to say this.

when I was in New Jersy, I was amazed to see an air conditioned corridor connecting New Jersy metro rail station with Hotel Hilton. The hotel staff was too glad to guide us through this corridor to the  rail station. Can such a thing exist in India? We are to grow up first.

sandilya
Chennai, India
D-76/117
Sep 18, 2014
09:35 PM

Many miseries that India faces today would not have been there if by some  divine providence Gandhi did not come onto the stage so early as he came.

He sowed many seeds with good intensions but then the road to hell is said to be paved with such good intensions only. The seeds he planted  have grown to become poisonous trees now. Millions suffered and lakhs lost lives and livelihood. He encouraged lumpen elements to enter congress and that's the reason we see such third rate politicians today. 

sandilya
Chennai, India
D-75/1
Sep 18, 2014
09:11 PM

And the Manipuri replied in Chinese too.

Slothrope, nuuk
D-74/3
Sep 18, 2014
08:24 PM

And what was COngress doing for the last 10 years?

This is the first time we have deployed force for force. A still stronger response will take time to deliver.

We now have displayed the intention-unlike Vajpayee and Manmohan. A good beginning.

Akash Verma, Chennai
D-73/2
Sep 18, 2014
08:16 PM

Whenever defeated Congress men open their mouth they belch foul noises from mouth and from hinds.

a k ghai, mumbai
D-72/6
Sep 18, 2014
08:05 PM

China deployed 1000 men and India has deployed 1000 men from ARMY.

So what Outlook News Editor is crowing for ??

Do Outlook knows that when Congress Govt then Indian Army had stocks of Ammunition to fight a War for 7 days as reported by General Bikram Singh the C-in - C .

In last 100 days Modi has raised the stocks for 45 days .

My dear it takes time to build for stocks.

So what alternative Modi has other than to talk ?? But such a simple Logic Editors of Outlook will not understand.

By the way China has 1000 Armed pesrons on the border and India has too deployed 1000 Army persons .

a k ghai, mumbai
D-71/116
Sep 18, 2014
07:54 PM

The much maligned colonial rulers had better commitment toward maintaining our monuments than our own bas***rds.

The Sun temple in Konark became a place of protected monument after it was discovered during Lord Curzon's time. So is Taj Mahal, the money spinner for the ASI.

SANDILYA
CHENNAI, INDIA

Excellent observation. In the west they try to painstakenly preserve their heritage and history. In America even one or two centuries old history is preserved. But it is a matter of shame for all of us Indians for the complete apathy and neglect shown at our history. And ASI is a problem not a solution.
Years ago I went to the Mahakali caves in Mubai out of curiosity, but could not venture far because the caves are used as public urinal despite their ASI notified protected monument status, Our museums have some of the best collections of sculptures and relics dating back to thousands of years , but often the layers of dust on the glass partitions are not cleaned for years by careless employees -all covered under Sarkari pay commission.
Interestingly, India has a sizeable population of billionnaires and millionnaires. Is it too difficult to offer some of these museums and protected monuments to the charitable trusts and foundations of the wealthy families to preserve them?

DC
NEW YORK, United States
D-70/4
Sep 18, 2014
07:37 PM

talks are on. Manmohan also talked, Modi also talks.

Don't worry, all will be fine. Let Pakistan or China keep attacking our borders. Atleast China is giving us MONEY, investments.

Modi has the charm to attract investments, even if it hurts public interest. Don't forget how Modi got Tata nano plan into Gujarat by giving 10 thousand crore loan (20% of Gujarat's annual budget) at 0.1% (almost free) and zero stamp tax. Read on http://ibnlive.in.com/news/modis-offer-for-nano-rs-9570-cr-soft-loan/77974-7.html

Don't ask, what China will get back in return for its investments.

himanshu, New Jersey
D-69/115
Sep 18, 2014
07:33 PM

Hindu tolerance or apathy is built on ignorance and a very well orcheatrated propoganda to mask the brual and genocidal history of Islam in S Asia.  What Islamic state or Taliban perpetrates in in territoris it controls, was perpetrated by minority islamic zealots all over S Asia from Kashmir to Bahmani sultans, from Afganistan to Bengal to Assam.

That's why , if we want to learn lessons from history so that same does not repeat again in the shrunken space of Hindus in S Asia, history must be taught as it happened , not its imaginary, false version.

SuchBolo
Such Garh, India
D-68/114
Sep 18, 2014
07:28 PM

If any community which should be utterly grateful to Hindus of India, it should be Parsi community.  And any community which suffered the most at the hands of Muslims in last hundred or so years, it should be Parsi community.  I am very much surprised that no other prominent Parsi Bawa has not openly criticized Fali Nariman for what he has said. 

P.B. Joshipura
Suffolk, Virginia, United States
D-67/1
Sep 18, 2014
07:14 PM

Incursion is a constant phenomenon, whether UPA government or BJP government.  What "Dhokla" brings in return is lakhs of crores Rupees investment and employment that goes with it. 

P.B. Joshipura, Suffolk, Virginia
D-66/1
Sep 18, 2014
06:56 PM

These NGOs are the real problem.  When number of widows decline they may lose their job that is what bothering them. 

P.B. Joshipura, Suffolk, Virginia
D-65/1
Sep 18, 2014
06:54 PM

She is perfectly right.  Stupid people are those who branded Hema Malini's statement as 'controversial'. 

P.B. Joshipura, Suffolk, Virginia
D-64/39
Sep 18, 2014
06:44 PM

The man casting doubt on our Battuta is German oriental scholar Ralf Elger, who claims to have discovered that Ibn Battuta faked most of his travel

ibn Batuta is fake, the hadith are fake, the sira is fake, the histories of Islamic conquests written by Muslims over a period of 1000 years are all lies, the Koran has fake verses in it that need to be removed, and there are even doubts being cast about whether there really was a Muhammad or whether he was invented by politicians to justify their rule. In a few years, there may nothing left of Muhammadanism.

Janwaar Bibi
BibiSarai, Iraq
D-63/9
Sep 18, 2014
06:36 PM

"So Modi gifts Gita yet again"

Now Japan and China have something in common to discuss about.

K.Suresh, Bangalore
D-62/5
Sep 18, 2014
06:10 PM
"After Modi's hard talk with XI in Delhi, Chinese troops pull back in Chumar" - .... You need to be a bloody Hindu idiot to believe in that !
Pinaki S Ray, Adelaide
D-61/3
Sep 18, 2014
06:06 PM

Has the Supreme Court instructed Modi on how to conduct talks with the Chinese? THe court, of late, has been blabbering about everything else.

Akash Verma, Chennai
D-60/4
Sep 18, 2014
05:59 PM

It is interesting to see India deplying troops in kind. Bravo. But That is the first step.

As of now, our military is weak. We dont have the proper gears. The goal must be to strengthen the military in two years so that when China enters India, we enter China.

We cannot make it happen now given the neglect over many decades. But we must reach that point.

Border row will not get resolved till India is militarily strong.

Akash Verma, Chennai
D-59/1
Sep 18, 2014
03:35 PM

aliens are already staying with us..according to the reports showing in history aliens...they have already arrived...staying and studying humans...i believe it totally...some might be in form like Gaga

suraj, Gurgaon
D-58/2
Sep 18, 2014
03:33 PM

"What happened to the 36 inch chest?"

Whose chest are you refering to ?

K.Suresh, Bangalore
D-57/38
Sep 18, 2014
03:11 PM

Ganwaar,

[[The man casting doubt on our Battuta is German oriental scholar Ralf Elger, who claims to have discovered that Ibn Battuta faked most of his travel ]]

From the same link Ganwaar provided:

"German academic, Lewis Gropp, writing a review of Elgar's book in the magazine Qantara, also comments on Elgar's claims, but points out that, in part, they are nothing new. "Although Ibn Battuta is still viewed to this day by many Arabs as a great explorer and traveller of the Arab and Islamic world, doubts were raised as to the authenticity of his reports even during his lifetime. The great Arab historian Ibn Chaldun reports for example that there were several people at the court of Fez who did not believe the accounts were genuine."

It says doubts about the veracity of Batuta's accounts were raised even then, so what's new about what Ganwaar is trying to say here? Have any of his writings been disproved? If yes, how? Because I don't think any of what he's written can either be proved or disproved. You can just take it at face value or discard it.

Ganwaar
Ganwaarpur, India
D-56/37
Sep 18, 2014
03:04 PM

Saroja mami,

[[Right. I came across this phenomenon as I was reading Breivik's book over 2 years back. Here is a real time record of the research as I traced the sources of Breivik's research. Hindu Kush appears in it. fairy-tales-alive.blogspot.in/2012/09/criminality-and-insanity-breivik.html

Anyone can write on Wikipedia. So any info that you get from wiki must be verified. Dhimmi has the experience of quoting from wiki on Godhra train burning when those extracts were not present in the source mentioned. That is part of Sanghi History rewriting project.]]

DL Narayan garu, look at this post. Mami was asked a straightforward question about the meaning of Hindukush, and she launches off on a tangent talking about the Oslo murderer Breivik, Godhra, and what not!!

Do you think it is possible to reform such people to think or talk straight? I don't think.

Ganwaar
Ganwaarpur, India
D-55/9
Sep 18, 2014
02:42 PM

These actresses do films to show their bodies, pretty faces, clothes or acting talent ? And when paparazzi catch them they suddenly become virtuous.

gayatri
madrid, Spain
D-54/3
Sep 18, 2014
02:24 PM

After Modi's hard talk with XI in Delhi, Chinese troops pull back in Chumar

indiatoday.intoday.in/story/chumar-xi-jinping-ladakh-narendra-modi-pla/1/383574.html

Mohan, Adpur
D-53/7
Sep 18, 2014
02:09 PM

Please read last comments unde rthis thrad.

a k ghai
mumbai, India
D-52/2
Sep 18, 2014
02:05 PM
Mohan, Adpur
D-51/6
Sep 18, 2014
01:51 PM

I am facing serious problem in opening OutLook magzine.Either I get Problem 404 or Site is unavailable.

My Computer Engineer says from Office that ther is no problem for him to open the Rant and Raves.

He says either some one is fingering my system via his computer or Outlook site has problems itself .

Whatever may be I should have no problems as I use the latest machine and Security .

Can't help any one so for time being I may not be able to operate Rant and Raves.

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WELL WISHERS and Mr Faruki

FARUKI  asked me for the proof . IT is here  .

I can site many more .I also remember too  I have to connect Vastanvi  Vastanavi.

Presently I am handicappped due reasons stated above .

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MEANWHILE READ THE ARTICLE OF THOMAS L FREIDMAN IN INDIAN EXPRESS  YESTERDAY -

''THIS WAR IS NOT FOR US.''

indianexpress.com/article/opinion/columns/this-war-is-not-about-the-us/

''' And Qatar is with us Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays and against us Tuesdays and Thursdays. Fortunately, it takes the weekends off. -

Consider Saudi Arabia. It’s going to help train Free Syrian Army soldiers, but, at the same time, is one of the biggest sources of volunteer jihadists in Syria. And, according to a secret 2009 US study signed by then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and divulged by WikiLeaks, private “donors in Saudi Arabia constitute the most significant source of funding to Sunni terrorist groups worldwide.” Turkey allowed foreign jihadists to pass into and out of Syria and has been an important market for oil that ISIS is smuggling out of Iraq for cash. Iran built the EFPs — explosively formed penetrators — that Iraqi Shiite militias used to help drive America out of Iraq and encouraged Iraq’s Shiite leaders to strip Iraqi Sunnis of as much power and money as possible, which helped create the ISIS Sunni counter-revolt. Syria’s president, Bashar al-Assad, deliberately allowed ISIS to emerge so he could show the world that he was not the only mass murderer in Syria.'''

ALL THE NEEDED PROOFS EXIST AS TO THE HOW SUNNI NATIONS ARE SUPPORTING AND TRAINING  ISIS .

THE ARTICLE ALSO APPEARED IN NYK TIMES .

a k ghai, mumbai
D-50/113
Sep 18, 2014
01:42 PM

@Jitendra:

Oh yes for sure. He has ruined the original Bengal in particular by his politics of "tolerance"  not to recover ever in the future.Only those (like me) born and brought up in Calcutta will be taught about that real history by their family elders since they were the eye witnesses of that period.  JNU historians turn a blind eye. 

In getting independence three provinces of original India were devasted - Punjab (half), Bengal (mostly) and Sindh (totally). Sindh has been the "sacrificial lamb" and disappeared from the map of India altogether, inspite of being included in the national anthem as a part and pacel of the nation. I am afraid the people of other provinces are oblivious to the sufferings and agonies of the Hindu communities comprising Bengalis and Punjabis, not to mention the Sindhis in the recent past history of India. That was a "King Hit" engineered by Congress under Gandhi's command. It is unimaginable how he was hoisted as the "Father of the Nation" under the guise of Hindu tolerance.

Pinaki S Ray
Adelaide, Australia
D-49/1
Sep 18, 2014
01:36 PM

What happened to the 36 inch chest? Looks like it just shrivelled. The chinese incursions going on despite the premier's visit goes to show what chinese army think of india. Acchee din!!

Raja, Delhi
D-48/3
Sep 18, 2014
01:06 PM

Vrindavan widows are now becoming a hunting ground for Church to convert. There are many Christian organisations eyeing this vulnerable women. BJP needs to address this issue as soon as possible before it gets out of hand.

There are many organisations like blessIndia which asks for fund in name of converting these widows into brides of Christ.

These target Target oriented christian organisations who raises funds in name of converting these vulnerable widows like they do with vulnerable Tribals in Chattisgarh, Orissa & Jharkhand, and when Hindus object to this crookedness, they shout that there is no religious freedom in India under BJP.

Religious freedom is to practice freely your religion, that is not a freedom for commercial missionary traders to convert non-Christians and beg funds for that from abroad.

Sanjay, Pune
D-47/1
Sep 18, 2014
12:57 PM
Mohan, Adpur
D-46/36
Sep 18, 2014
12:54 PM


"The man casting doubt on our Battuta is German oriental scholar Ralf Elger, who claims to have discovered that Ibn Battuta faked most of his travel 

riadzany.blogspot.com/2010/12/was-ibn-battuta-fake.html




 

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-45/35
Sep 18, 2014
12:47 PM

<p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&quot;The man casting doubt on our Battuta is German oriental scholar Ralf Elger, who claims to have discovered that Ibn Battuta faked most of his travel accounts.&quot;<br /> <br /> <a href="http://riadzany.blogspot.com/2010/12/was-ibn-battuta-fake.html">riadzany.blogspot.com/2010/12/was-ibn-battuta-fake.html</a></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p><a href="http://riadzany.blogspot.com/2010/12/was-ibn-battuta-fake.html"><span>&nbsp;</span></a><br /> <br /> &nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p>

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-44/2
Sep 18, 2014
12:09 PM

Hemaji, though true, it is an insensitive and politically incorrect comment to make. Besides, you are likely to step on the toes of seculars who have made an industry peddling the poverty tourism - "widows of Brindavan" - abroad.

K.Suresh, Bangalore
D-43/8
Sep 18, 2014
10:55 AM

May be we can have a friendly match : Indian XI vs Chinese Xi

K.Suresh, Bangalore
D-42/7
Sep 18, 2014
10:53 AM

Can we call Modi's pact with China - Chini cum chai ?

K.Suresh, Bangalore
D-41/1
Sep 18, 2014
10:43 AM

Absolutely indiscriminate and imprudent statements by said Lok Sabha MP from Mathura. One supposes she must be knowing that ours is a democratic country and each one of us has a full right to move from any place to anywhre and to settle whereever he or she desires.

Moreover,at all, if she desires so, can she make arrangements for their safe shelters and their day to day needs so that they stay in their respective states - Bengal and Bihar ? Why would they take trouble to go so far from their homes.? Needless to mention here - Mathura isa  holy city , a highly religious city and people want to die there to attain salvation.

Parshuram Gautampurkar, Sawai Madhopur,Rajasthan
D-40/8
Sep 18, 2014
10:34 AM

Article was under "Most Commented" tab on OutLook website when checked comment section found only 7 comments so far...Is that mean by just having 7 comment means Most Commented...?

Jaykumar, Ahmedabad
D-39/2
Sep 18, 2014
10:29 AM

He ate and he died.  For a police officer who is supposed to uphold the law, he is not one.

Non Fanatic, London
D-38/34
Sep 18, 2014
10:17 AM

Let me check Encyclopedia Brittanica. I typed in Hindu Kush Genocide and after that Hindu Kush massacre. In both cases I got the result

>>>There are currently no results related to your search. bint Parrot

ibn Batuta says the Hindus died from the intense cold - presumably, your beloved janwaars did not give our people parkas and gloves before taking them to the slave markets of Ghazni. Are all madrassa bibis as dense as you?

You did not answer my earlier question. It is a matter of historical record that Muslims enslaved tens of millions of Africans, Hindus, Buddhists, Jains and others. The West enslaved about 10 million Africans, but Muslims enslaved about 15 million. It is also a matter of record that most male slaves were castrated before being sold. Marco Polo, who traveled through Bengal, reported that Bengal was one of the largest suppliers of castrated slaves in the Islamic world. We know Hindus, Buddhists and Jains were taken through the Hindu Kush to the slave markets of Central Asia. They were obviously not prepared for the bitter cold, so thousands of our people must have perished in those mountains.

All this is a matter of historical record and common sense - we have not just one source but many sources ranging from Muslims like ibn Batuta to Christians like Marco Polo.

We have ibn Batuta's assertion that "Hindu Kush" stands for "killer of Hindus."

Given all this, why do seemingly intelligent seculars like you insist on defending the indefensible actions of Muslims from the past? No one is saying your Dallas friend is responsible for these atrocities. I can understand why he feels compelled to deny, lie and obfuscate - he has been brainwashed into believing his religion is perfect, pure, and blameless. But why does an intelligent and well-educated Hindu - and a woman to boot - continue to deny the horrors committed by Muslims on Hindus and particularly on Hindu women through the ages when these are a matter of record (not to mention current  news)? Do you not feel the slightest sense of identification with the daughters of Raja Dahir of Sind who were sent to the Caliph of Baghdad as sex slaves? Do you not feel any empathy for his wife who was made into a sex slave by a succession of generals in Qasim's army, and was finally converted to Islam before she died? The thousands of our people who committed jauhar with their little children rather than be taken alive by these savages?

There is a syndrome called "hybristophilia" - apparently most mass murderers and other horrific criminals have a large number of female fans who will write to them in prison, adore them, and want to be with them in spite of their horrific crimes. You can read up about the biological origins of this pathology. Given the large numbers of Hindu women who are so ardently sickular, I wonder if Indian society is not under the spell of hybristophilia after 1,300 years of subjugation.

Janwaar Bibi
BibiSarai, Iraq
D-37/3
Sep 18, 2014
10:09 AM

So when BJP wins it is because of polarisation, Amit Shah, Adityanath and Muzaffarnagar! And when the BJP loses bypolls after three months, it is because of polarisation, Amit Shah, Adityanath and Muzaffarnagar! Till today, none of these liberals have been able to tell us what was so hateful about the Yogi's parliament speech.

RSM
Delhi, India
D-36/112
Sep 18, 2014
10:06 AM

ISIS Orders All Christian, Shiite Business Assets to Be Delivered to the Islamic State

     

(AINA) -- The Arabic language Alsumaria News is reporting that ISIS has ordered all Sunni businesses with Christian and Shiite partners to deliver the non-Sunni share of the business to the Islamic State. ISIS gave a two day deadline to comply with the order, else all assets would be confiscated.

According to the report, ISIS has a complete list of of businesses with Christian and Shiite partners.

ISIS is now charging tariffs on all goods entering the Nineveh Province. Goods deemed offensive to Islam are seized and destroyed.

In other news, ISIS has removed all clothes from department stores in Mosul and imposed the Afghan style of clothing on the city. ISIS has also segregated male and female students at the University of Mosul, changed the curriculum and renamed the Fine Arts college to "Text Decoration."

Mohan
Adiiipur, India
D-35/33
Sep 18, 2014
09:44 AM

My knowledge of history is near zero. Saroja bint Parrot

We are aware of it. That's why we teach you elementary lessons.

ibn Batuta's book is available here. See pages 97-98 and learn some history.

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=SZW8AQAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=ibn+battuta&hl=en&sa=X&ei=klgaVKq_GKbl8AGU8IEQ&ved=0CCgQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=ibn%20battuta&f=false

Let me guess your response - the translator is deliberately mistranslating Batuta to make your fellow Muslims look bad.

Janwaar Bibi
BibiSarai, Iraq
D-34/32
Sep 18, 2014
09:30 AM

>>people like Janwaar and his Bibi

What do you mean you pathetic creature? Now that you feel constrained in the usage of scatology ( after referring to dictionary & understanding the stamp of your writing) you fall back on the other tricks of fellow sanghis of linking me with Anwaar ? This from an idiot who dare not publish under his actual name because he cannot defend it to his employers in US may be. Bootlicker 

R. Saroja
Bombay, India
D-33/31
Sep 18, 2014
09:14 AM

Yes, the whole world is in a state of denial and only our sanghi geniuses know the truth. Why is there no entry for Hindu Kush massacre or Hindu Kush genocide in Encyclopedia Brittannica? 

R. Saroja
Bombay, India
D-32/30
Sep 18, 2014
09:11 AM

Idiot dhimmi. I did not want to repeat what I had posted elsewhere and I had given links to. Then I remembered that Sanghis are incapable of reading anything other than what comes out of sanghi stable and are incapable of understanding reasons for different wiki versions. Simpletons . Here it is--

What follows is about Islamic attrocities all over the world. My knowledge of history is near zero. Then reference to Hindu Kush genocide. I see only one version in the internet. Let me check Encyclopedia Brittanica. I typed in Hindu Kush Genocide and after that Hindu Kush massacre. In both cases I got the result

>>>There are currently no results related to your search.
>>>Please check to see that you spelled your query correctly. Or, try a different or more general query term.

Now internet scares me like never before. Then I tried Wikipedia. It seems to have undergone several revisions yesterday and one today. Well right now it reads

>>>The origins of the name "Hindu Kush" are uncertain, with multiple theories being propounded by different scholars and writers.Hindu Kuh (???????) and Kuh-e Hind (???? ???) are usually applied to the entire range separating the basins of the Kabul andHelmand rivers from that of the Amu River (ancient Oxus) or more specifically to that part of the range, northwest of the Afghan capital Kabul. Sanskrit documents refer to the Hindu Kush as Pariyatra Parvata (????????? ?????).
The mountain range was called "Paropamisadae" by Greeks in the late first millennium BC.[1] In the time of Alexander the Great, they were further referred to as the Caucasus Indicus or "Indian Caucasus" (as opposed to the Iberian Caucasusrange), which past authors have additionally considered as a possible derivation of the name "Hindu Kush".
The Persian-English dictionary [2] indicates that the word 'Kush' is derived from the verb Kushtan, meaning to kill.
Encyclopedia Americana comments:
The name Hindu Kush means literally 'Kills the Hindu', a reminder of the days when Indian slaves from the Indian subcontinent died in the harsh weather typical of the Afghan mountains while being transported to Central Asia.[3]
At the time, the word Hindu was a secular term which was used to describe all inhabitants of the Indian subcontinent – or Hindustan – irrespective of their religious affiliation. It was only towards the end of the 18th century that European merchants and colonists referred collectively to the followers of some Indian religions as Hindus.
The World Book Encyclopedia states that "the name Kush, .. means Death".[4] While Encyclopædia Britannica says 'The name Hindu Kush first appears in 1333 AD in the writings of Ibn Battutah, the medieval Berber traveller, who said the name meant 'Hindu Killer', a meaning still given by Afghan mountain dwellers who are traditional enemies of Indian plainsmen.[5]
The word "Koh" or "Kuh" means mountain in many of the local languages. According to Nigel Allan, there were at least two meanings for "Hindu Kush" common centuries ago "mountains of India" and "sparkling snows of India" - he notes that the name is clearly applied from a Central Asian perspective.[6] Others maintain that the name Hindu Kush is probably a corruption of Hindi-Kash or Hindi-Kesh, the boundary of Hind (i.e. Indian subcontinent).[7]

R. Saroja
Bombay, India
D-31/29
Sep 18, 2014
09:10 AM

"This lie actually was started by Ibn Battutah, and it is one of several errors and inventions in his book. According to Nigel Allan,"

Who is Nigel Allan ? Why do you say that Ib Battuah, who I understand was one of the famous travellers who travelled many places, is lying ? What this has to do with RSS propoganda ?

Maha
NJ, United States
D-30/6
Sep 18, 2014
08:59 AM

 Why poodles at     are DESPERATE for  's Indo-China diplomacy to fail:

 
Mohan, Adiiipur
D-29/28
Sep 18, 2014
08:54 AM

This lie actually was started by Ibn Battutah. Janwaar

So Ibn Battutah, a Muslim writing for other Muslims centuries ago, invented a lie to make Muslims look bad? And the Ency. Iranica, which is presumably an Iranian website maintained by Muslims, gives the same information, perhaps because they are Sanghis? Ency. Britannica gives the same information - they are sanghis too?

Note Saroja's bint Parrot's well-known modus operandi - she does not refute anything I cited but brings in Breivik, Godhra (parrot squawks "Gujarat riots" again!), Sri Rama Sena and other irrelevant things because she has nothing to refute what was written.

This is standard operating procedure for these apologists like Janwaar and his Bibi - lie through your teeth, blow smoke, accuse others of being dishonest etc. even when they do not need to. The bestiality of Mahmud of Ghazni and his janwaars is well documented by Muslims themselves. Were hundreds of thousands of unfortunate Hindus, Buddhists and Jains enslaved by these janwaars and taken to slave markets in Ghazni, Baghdad and other Islamic hellholes? We have the written testimony of Muslims from those times. Could thousands of poor Hindus, Buddhists and others have perished along the way? Obviously. Why then defend the indefensible? Because for these people, lying is a habit - they lie even when do not have to.

Their problem is the truth - in the Internet age, their increasingly pathetic and desperate lies keep getting exposed. Here is an article by a black African on Islamic slavery of Africans - read it and wonder at how these people like Janwaar and his Bibi can defend this kind of bestiality, and about what it says about the sickness in their souls.

http://secularafrican.wordpress.com/2013/08/22/denials-of-islamic-slavery/

Janwaar Bibi
BibiSarai, Iraq
D-28/22
Sep 18, 2014
08:28 AM


ghai,

>> "I am building up the case from Vastanavi's prosecution."

Vastanavi is a Sunni himself. Stop making a fool of yourself.

Anwaar, Dallas
D-27/27
Sep 18, 2014
08:24 AM


Suchbolo,

>>  "they even named a mountain after Hindus killed"

Another bold-faced lied of the RSS propaganda machine. This lie actually was started by Ibn Battutah, and it is one of several errors and inventions in his book.  According to Nigel Allan, Hindu Kush meant both "mountains of India" and "sparkling snows of India", as he notes, from a Central Asian perspective. Others maintain that the name Hindu Kush is probably a corruption of Hindi-Kash or Hindi-Kesh, the boundary of Hind. 

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-26/7
Sep 18, 2014
08:23 AM

Apparently the whole westen world went to the side of Pakistan ...

Those who cared to read the true dynamics of our Independence movement know that Gandhi's much acclaimed Quit India movement was the culprit for the West to shift their sympathies away from India, for ever.
If you see impartially, Allies were fighting a terrible WWII and Gandhi was busy mobilising forces inimical to the ruling Brits who were in terrible shape.
It's near equivalent of Kashmir or Tamil Nadu asking for secession from the union when India is fighting a war, say with a powerful neighbour/enemy.
Lord Wavel, the then Viceroy who had a reputation for forthrightness, wrote to the British Govt that the Congress leaders could not be trusted as allies in the fight against the fascists and they wouldn't make well meaning partners in future either. And Jinnah took the opportunity to play politics and was willing to be a partner if he got Pakistan, which he got.That's how the Western alliance became closer to establish bases in Pakistan which always got support in all forums against India. It is another matter that it played its foreign policy to milk the West to the maximum. Whereas we remained parroting empty ideals which no one cared. Even today that one decision of Gandhi is affecting our interests.

Our leaders truly lacked prudence.That's all one will get to know after knowing the real facts of history.Any wonder none of the legacies of either Gandhi or Nehruare alive today.Only ritualistic acknowdgements on their birth days that remain.

sandilya
Chennai, India
D-25/111
Sep 18, 2014
08:14 AM


DC,

>> "You acknowledge nothing and try to rationalize everything."

I am dealing here with those who exaggerate, lie and distort. This is not a scholarly seminar.

>> "You are not even a secular- for that you have to be a critic not an apologist of your community."

You don't have to be, although I am.

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-24/26
Sep 18, 2014
08:05 AM

>>In India, the Muslim population has gone up from 8% to 15%, Gujarat and Muzaffarnagar notwithstanding.

Over to you. As a trained physicist, analyse the data and tell us what can be inferred from it.

What can be inferred is your lack of rigour. Was Muslim population as low as 8% ever? That data (assuming it to be true) can only have come from a time after partition but before inclusion of Jammu & Kahmir/ Hyderabad state in the union. 

I have never denied the persecution of minorities in Pakistan or Bangladesh. What is your point? You want to ape them?

R. Saroja
Bombay, India
D-23/6
Sep 18, 2014
08:03 AM


Amit Shah is as ignorant as his saheb. Or is he just making up stories?

Anwaar, Dallas
D-22/25
Sep 18, 2014
08:01 AM

>>Perhaps Wikipedia and Ency. Iranica are suffering from "Oakism."

Right. I came across this phenomenon as I was reading Breivik's book over 2 years back. Here is a real time record of the "research" as I traced the sources of Breivik's "research".  "Hindu Kush" appears in it. fairy-tales-alive.blogspot.in/2012/09/criminality-and-insanity-breivik.html

Anyone can write on Wikipedia. So any info that you get from wiki must be verified. Dhimmi has the experience of quoting from wiki on Godhra train burning when those extracts were not present in the source mentioned. That is part of Sanghi "History rewriting project".

Another example on Sri Rama Sene - Here is a version about 2 years old -

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sri_Ram_Sena&oldid=506123471

A extract from then -

One of things which has raised suspicion on the main motive of this group is the timing of their activities as most of their activities were during elections. Their activities have created a scare against Hindu extremism which has helped Congress. Ram Sena also became active during Anna Hazare movement which helped Congress as it took away attention from the core issue of the anti corruption issue. So, there have been speculations that they are being sponsored by Congress.

It was unsourced.  A web search then took to Sri rama sene's official website. That was my first action in wikipedia, deleting that para. It has not been challenged. The current wiki page reads

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sri_Ram_Sena

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Sachbolo has been pasting some references to wiki. I did an analysis of the sources. That follows later today.

R. Saroja
Bombay, India
D-21/1
Sep 18, 2014
07:59 AM


Bravo, but don't do it again!
 

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
D-20/110
Sep 18, 2014
07:58 AM

Then look at the cheap, misleading and dirty plaque put up by the archielogical survey of India at the site.

SUCHBOLO

ASI is infested with guys who could not get elsewhere. So are their tastes and ideas of maintainence. Look at our museums, monuments and historical relics. Filth, dirt and squalor is all we get to see.

If you see the surroundings of famed Anand Bhawan you will get an insight into the mindset of our political leadership. The whole area is unkempt and overpowered by the stink of urine and shit !! Hardly any noticeable maintenance of roads around. If they can't maintain their own places of glory what can we expect from this class?

With due apologies to the Gandhians, I will say, the so called 'simplicity legacy' of Gandhi has been hijacked by them to make everything in this country look and feel  shoddy and characterless. Our post independence govt buildings are the example of our politicos shoddiness. They have failed us miserably.

The much maligned colonial rulers had better commitment toward maintaining our monuments than our own bas***rds.

The Sun temple in Konark became a place of protected monument after it was discovered during Lord Curzon's time. So is Taj Mahal, the money spinner for the ASI.

sandilya
Chennai, India
D-19/1
Sep 18, 2014
07:46 AM

Does that mean we surrender Ladakh and Arunachal to China.In exchange.

For 10  years we heard that the Congress has virtually sold India self respect by doing nothing when the Chinese have violated the LAC.

So many Retd Generals were on Tv asking China to be thought a hard lesson

harun, chennai
D-18/5
Sep 18, 2014
07:42 AM

What is being claimed is mere conjecture,if and but not withstanding.

Shah must explain why a man who holds out promise for a better India and led his party to huge victory ,finds his party losing in Seats which they held before May 16th.

Its time Modi takes charge of his party  as well,Shah has been over hyped

harun, chennai
D-17/1
Sep 18, 2014
07:35 AM

Whats the hype about pacts when territorial integrity is under stress

harun, chennai
D-16/24
Sep 18, 2014
07:03 AM

>> ( they even named a mountain after Hindus killed ) Suchch Bolo

> Oakism in full flow!  Saroja bint Parrot

From Wikipedia article:

Although the derivation is only a possible one, some authors have proposed the meaning "Kills the Hindu" for Hindu Kush, a derivation reproduced in Encyclopedia Americana (1993):

The name Hindu Kush in Farsi/Parsi literally means 'Kills the Hindu', a reminder of the days when Indian slaves from the Indian subcontinent (whom their enslavers referred to as Hindus[6]) died in the harsh weather typical of the Afghan mountains while being transported to Central Asia.[7]

A 1958 National Geographic article "West of Khyber Pass" states that "Generations of raiders brought captive Hindus past these peaks of perpetual snow - killing many of them in the process. Such bitter journeys gave the range its name Hindu Kush - 'Killer of Hindus'".[8] The World Book Encyclopedia relates that "the name Kush, .. means Death",[9] while the Encyclopædia Britannica says "The name Hindu Kush first appears in 1333 AD in the writings of Ibn Battutah, the medieval Berber traveller, who said the name meant 'Hindu Killer', a meaning still given by Afghan mountain dwellers who are traditional enemies of Indian plainsmen (i.e. Hindus)."

From Encyclopedia  Iranica:

"The name Hindu Kush is, from a historical point of view, quite young. It is missing from the accounts of the early Arab geographers and occurs for the first time in Ebn Ba??u?a (ca. 1330; tr., p. 53; Le Strange, Lands, p. 350). ....Ebn Ba??u?a sees the origin of the name Hindu Kush (Hindu-killer) in the fact that numerous Hindu slaves fell victim to the dangers of the unknown world of the high mountain range while crossing the pass on their way from India to Turkestan."

Perhaps Wikipedia and Ency. Iranica are suffering from "Oakism." Or perhaps Saroja bint Parrot is lying for her pet religion again.

Janwaar Bibi
BibiSarai, Iraq
D-15/4
Sep 18, 2014
06:02 AM
Professor Chellaney, an international expert in strategic studies, has recently given an incisive analysis for the growing India-China dalliance under Modi Raj: http://chellaney.net/ China’s Borderline Belligerence To quote from it: ..... "In recent years, the People’s Liberation Army has been taking advantage of its rising political clout to provoke localized skirmishes and standoffs with India by breaching the two countries’ long and disputed Himalayan frontier. The PLA’s recent intensification of such border violations holds important implications for President Xi Jinping’s upcoming visit to India – and for the future of the bilateral relationship..... Now, China is at it again, including near the convergence point of China, India, and Pakistan – the same place last year’s PLA encroachment triggered a three-week military standoff. This pattern suggests that the central objective of Chinese leaders’ visits to India is not to advance cooperation on a shared agenda, but to reinforce China’s own interests, beginning with its territorial claims. Even China’s highly lucrative and fast-growing trade with India has not curbed its rising territorial assertiveness. ............ Particularly egregious was Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee’s 2003 surrender of India’s Tibet card. Vajpayee went so far as to use, for the first time, the legal term “recognize” to accept what China calls the Tibet Autonomous Region (TAR) as “part of the territory of the People’s Republic of China.” That opened the way for China to claim Arunachal Pradesh (three times the size of Taiwan) as “South Tibet” and reinforced China’s view of territorial issues: Whatever area it occupies is Chinese territory, and whatever territorial claims it makes must be settled on the basis of “mutual accommodation and understanding.” Vajpayee’s blunder compounded Nehru’s 1954 mistake in implicitly accepting, in the Panchsheel Treaty, China’s annexation of Tibet, without securing (or even seeking) recognition of the then-existing Indo-Tibetan border. In fact, under the treaty, India forfeited all of the extraterritorial rights and privileges in Tibet that it had inherited from imperial Britain. As agreed in the pact, India withdrew its “military escorts” from Tibet, and conceded to the Chinese government, at a “reasonable” price, the postal, telegraph, and public telephone services operated by the Indian government in the “Tibet region of China.” For its part, China repeatedly violated the eight-year pact, ultimately mounting the trans-Himalayan invasion of 1962. In short, China used the Panchsheel Treaty to outwit and humiliate India. Yet, just this summer, Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s new government sent Vice President Hamid Ansari to Beijing to participate in the treaty’s 60th anniversary celebrations. Ansari was accompanied by Commerce Minister Nirmala Sitharaman, who, during her stay, signed an agreement allowing China – without any quid pro quo – to establish industrial parks in India. This will exacerbate existing imbalances in the bilateral trade relationship – China currently exports to India three times more than it imports from the country, with most of these imports being raw materials –thereby exposing India to increased strategic pressure and serving China’s interest in preventing India’s rise as a peer competitor. The fact that the spotlight is now on China’s Tibet-linked claim to Arunachal Pradesh, rather than on Tibet’s status, underscores China’s dominance in setting the bilateral agenda. Given India’s dependence on cross-border water flows from Tibet, it could end up paying a heavy price. Embarrassed by China’s relentless border violations – according to Indian Minister of State for Home Affairs Kiren Rijiju, there were 334 in the first 216 days of this year – India has recently drawn a specious distinction between “transgressions” and “intrusions” that enables it to list all of the breaches simply as transgressions. But word play will get India nowhere. A reminder of that came at July’s BRICS summit of Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa, when, yet again, China emerged ahead of India. The BRICS’ New Development Bank, it was announced, will be headquartered in Shanghai, not New Delhi; India’s consolation prize was that an Indian will serve as the Bank’s first president."
Pinaki S Ray
Adelaide, Australia
D-14/3
Sep 18, 2014
05:45 AM
Absolute agreement with Raja (#2/D-89). ..... May just add the saying that those who do not learn from history, history will repeat for them.
Pinaki S Ray
Adelaide, Australia
D-13/5
Sep 18, 2014
05:38 AM
Gee, it is the 'Hindi-Chini Bhai Bhai' once again, the war cry of the Chinese PLA when they overran in 1962 Indian Army's military posts all along the entire Pangong Lake, erstwhile belonging to the kingdom of the Maharaja of Kashmir. It is amazing how Nehru's vision of the world is being resurrected now after so many years and so soon in the Modi Raj. I thought up until yesterday that Indira Gandhi had given that vision a well deserved burial long time ago. But this is not to be. Those who do not learn from history, history will repeat for them as the head line of an adjoining column reveals " Flag Meet Fails as Chinese Soldiers Make Fresh Incursion in Chumar" not far from Pangong Lake !
Pinaki S Ray, Adelaide
D-12/109
Sep 18, 2014
05:22 AM

@Pinaki S Ray
 

Well our father of nation was the biggest crook we have produced.

Our first PM was arrogant, incompetent, self serving and lived somewhere in the clouds.

That explains the reason for India being a third world country inhabited by emotional fools.

Jitendra
Delhi, India
D-11/108
Sep 18, 2014
05:11 AM

The Martand Sun Temple in Kashmir, which Sikandar Butshikan spent a year to demolish, may still be the largest standing ruins of any temple going back to 6th-7th century in north India. It should be better preserved  and could be a jewel if  partially restored  using same stones and techniques, as many Roman ruins have been.  The apathy of Hindus to their historical heritage also shocking.

SuchBolo
Such Garh, India
D-10/9
Sep 18, 2014
04:38 AM


ISIS Is Not Just Un-Islamic, It Is Anti-Islamic

By Nihad Awad (national executive director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), the nation’s largest Muslim civil rights and advocacy organization.)

Extremist Muslims who commit crimes like those carried out by ISIS should be called criminals. We must not legitimize their actions by calling them jihadists.

The American Muslim community and Muslim scholars around the world have repudiated and rejected ISIS’s twisted ideology, calling it not just un-Islamic, but “anti-Islamic.”

time.com/3273873/stop-isis-islam/

Anwaar, Dallas
D-9/107
Sep 18, 2014
03:15 AM

>> Then look at the cheap, misleading and dirty plaque put up by the archielogical survey of India at the site.

This is disgusting.

Whats InAName
San Francisco, United States
D-8/1
Sep 18, 2014
03:08 AM

Apparently, Congress /UPA government could not discuss that with Chinese Prez.  So it hired Narendra Modi to do that. 

P.B. Joshipura, Suffolk, Virginia
D-7/1
Sep 18, 2014
02:30 AM

Feminists who LIE in order to frame males, should have boiling oil poured into their cu*ts.

misogynist, chennai
D-6/6
Sep 18, 2014
02:24 AM

So the general thrust is that this was the story of a poor girl forced by circumstances into prostitution !!

What hypocrisy. She had made a career choice. So please stop the sob story. 

Pradip Singh
stafford, uk
D-5/4
Sep 18, 2014
02:04 AM

The history is well known to most Indians that Sardar Patel was against going to UN before Indian soilders took back entire J & K.  Nehru over ruled him and accepted ceasefire.  May be Nehru was confident that UN will see Pakistan as aggresor and give judgement in India's favour.  Apparently the whole westen world went to the side of Pakistan and India (Nehru) was forced to hide in the lap of Russia.  As they say, rest is history. 

P.B. Joshipura, Suffolk, Virginia
D-4/1
Sep 18, 2014
12:53 AM

Shah just got it wrong.

The devlopment and progress was good enough,why he went for dividing and spreading hate among Indians.

harun, chennai
D-3/106
Sep 18, 2014
12:33 AM

I don't acknowledge the exaggerations of the revisionists. ANWAAR

That's also not true.You acknowledge nothing and try to rationalize everything.

You are not even a secular- for that you have to be a critic not an apologist of your community.

DC
NEW YORK, United States
D-2/23
Sep 18, 2014
12:33 AM

>> ( they even named a mountain after Hindus killed )

Oakism in full flow!

R. Saroja
Bombay, India
D-1/105
Sep 18, 2014
12:03 AM

Stunning :

"Hindu temples were felled to the ground and for one year a large establishment was maintained for the demolition of the grand Martand temple. But when the massive masonry resisted all efforts, fire was applied and the noble buildings cruelly defaced.-Firishta, Muhammad Qãsim Hindû Shãh; Tãrîkh-i-Firishta (History of the Rise of the Mahomedan Power in India)."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martand_Sun_Temple

See the link. As colossal and as magnificient as the most magnificient Roman ruins. Then look at the cheap, misleading and dirty plaque put up by the archielogical survey of India at the site. No mention of Sikandar Butshikan, who took a year to massacre the Hindu city and finally burn down the temple and wipe out Hindus from that area.

SuchBolo
Such Garh, India