To your 25 questions for Narendra Modi (Dear Narendrabhai, could you please...), my one simple question is: why in this eight years of ‘secular’ Congress government at the Centre haven’t they been able to shake Modi, put him behind bars? Even the NHRC hasn’t been able to do anything. It only means there is a lack of credible evidence to it all. And this when even our notoriously slow courts have been put in superfast mode.
T.N. Vaidyanathapura, Bangalore
The only question to ask Modi and his supporters is: were you born like this or did you work at becoming so devoid of compassion and so full of hate?
Ajit Tendulkar, Seattle
This refers to question number 13 of the 25 questions you have asked Narendra Modi. Despite Ahmedabad being the worst-affected city and with the most number of killings, the then police commissioner not only survived in his position but also kept getting promoted till he retired as the top cop of Gujarat. Post-retirement too, he got a lucrative assignment as a security advisor with a leading business group of Gujarat. He must have done a yeoman’s job for the CM and his men. Compare his record with the others, who couldn’t provide the same kind of services—Sreekumar, Sanjeev Bhatt and Rahul Sharma, to name a few.
Rajeev Matta, Mumbai
As an ex-Gujarat CM said, Modi thinks of winning “all the time”, at any cost. This, of course, entails extreme options: in the future, he’ll either be PM or go to jail.
Najid Hussain, Newark, US
If Modi was wrong, he’d never have been re-elected. Compare him to the CMs of Maharashtra and you’ll know why he is so admired.
Shashank, Mumbai
Of all your stupid questions, the most hilarious was No. 23, about “censoring newspapers like Sandesh and Gujarat Samachar”? Are you really asking Modi to shut down a newspaper? Had he done that, you’d have been screaming “media censorship” and slapping yet another case, nay question, against him.
Smita, Baroda
Whether Modi answers or not, the people of this country know the answer.
Indu P. Singh, Delhi
I hope you’ll follow up on these questions and not rest till Modi apologises and provides some redressal.
Vivian Noronha, Panaji
What kind of nutcase question was Question No. 9—“Why do critics persist in arguing...personal revenge and vendetta”? A more relevant question is: has Outlook no shame in publishing trash?
Ganesan, New Jersey
This is just character assassination. You think he’s guilty, then go defeat him at the hustings. Also, hasn’t the SC rejected Sanjeev Bhatt’s affidavit? What is the point in bringing up his name again?
Srinath, Chennai
Why do you keep talking about the post-Godhra events and not the tragedy itself which led to the riots?
Bhan, Delhi
This whole ‘Gujarat riots industry’ feeds thousand of vultures. If it’s brought to an end, most of them would be out of business. Truth and justice are the least of their concerns.
Alakshyendra, Hyderabad
Not to forget: in June 2014, we’ll complete three decades of Operation Bluestar. I hope Outlook will start its research right now and pose similar questions to those who matter.
Arun, Indore
Rahul:
Thanks for the link. The rebuttals were solid and to the point.
http://www.gujaratriots.com/214/answers-to-outlooks-25-questions/
These are very good answers given to the 25 questions.
Moderator's Note: Please do see the responses to earlier such "rebuttals": Narendra Modi - Unanswered Questions
Anwaar mian, I'm reminded of an interesting parallel when I see posts like yours. Have you ever seen a dog chasing cars? It can never chase one down, but derives satisfaction from the fact that it at least barked at the car.
>> "I allowed you to break all pots on my head alone."- Modi.
The dissembling hypocrite!
"“You all wanted that someone be made scapegoat. I did not do that. I allowed you to break all pots on my head alone. You have all decided, all these riots happened under this man (Narendra Modi). Until this man is removed from the Chief Minister’s post, we will not rest in peace. My best wishes to you in your mission.”
- Narendra Modi [March 2004]
>> "Your bogus propoganda is as bogus as you are" - Nipun
Thoses in Gujarat know the truth. These jholawallas and self-styled sickulars have muddled the case so bad that the victims will struggle to get justice. These scoundrels are minting money on the dead bodies of 2002.
Ajit,
[[Cynical yes, but when was the last time you saw a Congressman saying Sikhs have paanch/pachees or child-producing centres or should go away to pakistan? Get real, and your people may forgive, but only if remorse is shown. Not when arrogant and pompous electoral yatras at state expense are profanely called sadbhavana.]]
I've been reading a lot of your posts and the dismissive tone and tenor you use is no different from that of those you seek to put down. In your zeal to appear better or different from them, you've unwittingly become their identical opposite (I know it this term might sound like an oxymoron, but I hope you know what I'm getting at).
Do you know that several Congress leaders and corporators are facing charges for leading mobs that killed Muslims during the 2002 riots? So what are you talking about? Modi might be crude and open, but he is a lot easier to deal with than Congress walas, who speak with forked tongues and have indulged in a lot worse, be it the '84 riots or several others (many in Hyderabad, where I come from) across the country. The only reason Modi continues to be targeted is because he does is not the sophisticated or suave killer like folks like Kamal Nath or Jagdish Tytler or even Rajiv Gandhi/Indira Gandhi were.
Imagine if Rajiv Gandhi were to be alive,would the same secularists would have asked him the same type of penetrating qustions?At the very sight of Rajiv Gandhi the same fellows would be crawling.The least they can do now is to ask Sonia Gandhi as to she spent those three days of Sikh massacre.This will be asking for the moon.
It is ironical indeed that the Offstumped rebuttal should allude to "Goebbelesian manner" because that is exactly what they are doing by spamming my email box and inviting me to visit a blog I have no wish to visit. If I only need to read propaganda from Modi fanbois, why do I need to go anywhere else at all? There are many of them here. Trolls all.
Arun, just remember that the Sikh community has not forgotten those who were named and shamed. Remember the shoe thrown at Tytler recently, because of which Congress was forced to not give him a ticket? Remember what the Sikhs in US and Canada are doing to Kamal Nath? Threse protests will continue till such ministers and MPs enjoy their party's patronage. BJP and Vajpayee were going to do the right thing in Goa in 2002 itself. Muslims too may have moved on if action was taken against those named. Congress did not take any action and after the one victory in 1984 it had to remain out of power (barring Narasimha Rao's minority govt) effectively till 2004 when it came back wtih a Sikh PM as a symbol to win over the sikhs. Cynical yes, but when was the last time you saw a Congressman saying Sikhs have paanch/pachees or child-producing centres or should go away to pakistan? Get real, and your people may forgive, but only if remorse is shown. Not when arrogant and pompous electoral yatras at state expense are profanely called sadbhavana.
Vivian Saab. I honour your sentiments but the facts are facts and you or any one else can not defend it. No one has and no one can ever defend the riots of Gujrat. No one has ever said that it was right. All riots are heinous be it riots of gujrat, marad or anti-sikh all India riots. If we are expected to forget those riots and carry on, as most of the Sikh community has done we must also forget the gujrat riots.
these questions are fine and most of them have been asked by the SIT and the cm has given his response.
my simple question is why the 8 year old congress government in the centre has not been able to shake mr modi and put him behind bars. even the NHRC has not been able to do anything. apparently there must be lack of credible evidence to pinpoint mr modi as the culprit. accusing and singling out the cm for what happened in 2002 is at best a pokitical issue. the legal system in india takes its own sweet time and to my mind the gujarat riots are being handled in superfast mode by indian judicial standards and there is not a single day in the last ten years that the riots have not taken centre stage. just remember even after 27 years two heinous acts - the sikh riots in 1984 and bhopal tragedy have not seen any closure and the victims are still suffering. neither has the media given it even a fraction of the coverage it has given the gujarat riots. may be because the two 1984 events happened under the congress patronage and the media is too soft on the congress
To the last two comments, no 98 and 99, have some shame. Show some humanity and empathy. If you can't, shut up and do not reveal your petty-minded bigotry. Go away to your Modi bhajans. Outlook, I hope you will follow-up on these questions and not rest till Modi apologises and visits the victims and provides some redressal instead of starting propaganda campaigns. On my three different email address in the last 4 days, I have received so-called rebuttal to these questions, which I find has been answered here more than satisfactorily. It is high time to stop propaganda and actually look inwards, Mr Modi. And please tell your supporters to shut the f up. They all sound tutored and indoctrinated.
I have read numerous letters and article penned by Ajit or Suresh or Mahesh or Girish or Dinesh or Shashank or..... criticising Modi but till date I have not yet read any Anwaar or faruki or mehmood commenting on what happened to Sabaramati Express Passengers.
Next year in October we will complete three decades after Operation Blue Star and its aftermath. I hope your editorial staff will start their research right from now today and pose similar questions to those who matter. Have courage and do it.
Wow lovely questions.. You must have certainly put in lot of efforts to go through all the articles and reports and draft these questions. Must have taken you several hours to do it. I appreciate your efforts. But what are you going to get from digging in the past. And why do you have to write articles about Mr Modi in relation to Godhra only. I have not seen a single article detailing the progress of Gujrat. Why cant you project Gujrat's progress and prosperity under Mr Modi. You dont need to dig in the past and go through articles to write avout it. All you have to do is visit Gujrat and see the changes.
Godhra is over. We Indians have shed tears, vented our anger, and have been devasted by the incident , but we have moved on 10 years and have progressed. Isnt that something to write about. Has not Gujrat become a model state for all the other Indian states in sense of progress, prosperity and infrastructure. Mr SSUNDEEP DOUGAL are you blind not to see that, why dont you write about it. Why dont you write about the investments in Gujrat, why dont you write about the progress Gujrat has made in last 10 years. On the decade of Godhra incident people would have been happy to read about the progress they have made as Gujratis and Indian's post Godhra. Rather than read about those ugly days. You are only digging old graves and instigating and hurting the common man by reminding him again and again of those days.
If Mr Modi was worng he would never have been elected. Ask the question why is he loved and admired. But ask those question with an open mind. Compare him to CMs Of Maharashtra (I dont remeber how many have changed or remeber anyone completeing a full term in last 10 years) you will understand why he is admired and looked up to.
The more you try to maling his image the more stronger he will emerge, and why not he has done a good job for prosperity of Gujrat..
As for your question I wanted to say WOW WHAT A WASTE OF TIME TO DRAFT THESE QUESTION.. AND MR MEHTA YOU WASTED YOUR TIME EDITING IT.. Use your time for some good reporting.
@ Ajit..
No body knows what is correct by birth... one has to go through rigorous contemplation. And only after that you acquire the wisdom to support Narendrabhai :)
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Who is a liberal cannot be defined by liberals themselves. Conservatism is as good or as bad..
there is no difference between right wing, leftist and centerists... these are just different thoughts.,. its an instinct of correctness... many think Narendrabhai is on the side of truth... that instinct is all that matters...
. India has lost so many wars in history. We need unity not ideologies and mind-readers. certainly not vote bank politics... it denies this nation of something that has not been achieved in 1000 yrs... unity.
The only question to ask Narendra Modi and his supporters is: Were you born like this or did you work at becoming so shameless, devoid of compassion, and so full of hate?
>> And when Muslims were butchered in Secu Ruled States no one intervened
Why so surprised?
When even the relatives of encounter killings don't care about their kith and kin in secu ruled states, why should there be any intervention for riots?
Digested all shame and revulsion but could'NT order the Police to kill a single Hindu rioter ???
The police intervened only after there was mounting pressure and cries of national and international revulsion." Faruki
And when Muslims were butchered in Secu Ruled States no one intervened inspite of mounting pressures and cries of National and International revulsion.
Digested all shame and revulsion but could order the Police to kill a single Hindu rioter ???
SD here shows that he is the personification of the dumb and biased Indian media. My favourites from SD Qs: • On history of violence and rioting among Godhra Muslims • Why a universal fact like large families of Muslims should not be talked about • Sharmas concoction of telephone calls data • Why Modi mentioned the obvious that Bhatt was not present at the 27th Feb meeting • When Pandya was not present at the 27th Feb meeting why his opinion is irrelevant. • Bringing Godhra victims bodies to Ahmedabad • On the restoration of Temples and Mosques destroyed during the riots • Why cases against Bhatt must follow the course of law • Why cases against Ms Shitwala must follow the course of law
Godhra is a small town. If the 59 charred bodies in the S6 coach were to be handed over to their kith and kin, it would create havoc in Godhra town. Godhra doesnt have a big enough hospital to keep 59 charred bodies after the post mortem is a tough task. Curfew was imposed same day at 9.45 AM with hours after the train burning incident and army was called for on the same day. The entire police force of Ahmedabad was deployed (6000 odd) and 1500 odd were armed with guns. None of these cops have AK 47's like Jihadi's to shoot up everybody. They still use the old rifles. Now, can they shoot 20000 people without any restraint? Grenades anyone? Moslems did a retaliation on 1st March and killed several Hindu's in Bapu Nagar, Patel Nagar Area of Ahmedabad and these incidents are not covered properly by the media. Those mobs were led by Congressmen. Some of my best friends are in Ahmedabad and I was in touch with them regularly during that time. Can you guys imagine how a control room equipped to handle say about 100 calls a day receives 5000 such calls? How many fire engines are there in Ahmedabad? 100?? Do you think they would have been able to control? In Mahajan No Vando, Kerosene bottles were thrown in through the roof into the homes of Hindus. They threw it through the windows and the openings in the walls. They called the police thousands of times but were told told , "Sir is out". In the morning the mosques began announcing that Islam was in danger, that there was poison in the milk. This is their code word. There were the only Hindus there, poison here means them. The rioting lasted between 2:15 p.m. and 5:30 p.m. First they destroyed the police stall outside. At 11:00 p.m. two police people went there and the residents had to give them security. Main stream media doesnt report all this. Does any journo have the time to report all these things? Why cant Outlook write atleast 20% of the story about the moslem attacks on Hindus? The riots were really bad and the reporting that followed was worser. People should read both sides of the story and then come to a conclusion rather than just reading one sided stories.
Wonder why nobody talks about the kashmiri hindus,who were forced to leave their homes, and there is no article about them. Anwar and fellow muslims will jump to call me extremist, as if anwar is secular liberal, and what not,but muslims will make Godhra in every district in India when they becomes majority. Muslims did that in Pakistan and Bangladesh over the years.
Muslims blabber about babri mosque whenever they get a chance, but the same muslims demolished hundreds of hindu temples in bangladesh and Pakistan, and no muslims,including Anwar, had any protest.
>>>>when it was decided that the bodies of Godhra victims would be taken to Ahmedabad?<<<<<<<
Evidently, DUGGAL wanted the HINDUS dead at Godhra, to be "cremated" without "last rites" by next of kin as per HINDU custom. The same DUGGAL would have objected had the JEHADIS of 26/11 Mumbai attack or OSAMA been cremated which is aginst ISLAMIC custom and insisted that the dead deserve to be treated with dignity. Is dignity to be granted only to JIHADIS and not to innocent HINDUS who were burned to death??? Had the dead HINDUS at GODHRA been cremated SECRETLY, without taking their mortal remains to their home, it would have been shameful- first be massacared and then be cremated like a "LAWARIS".
Alakshyendra, you may be right that 'bootlicking your way to power' is common in our part of the world. Those who don't, they remain like you and I.
Modi has done plenty of 'bootlicking', too - starting with the then Chief Minister Keshubhai all the way to Advani and Bajpai.
What is not so common is to 'bite the hand that feeds you'. Modi has done that too. And that is the point. There is no dignity, or trustability in that trait.
1- I hope Anwaar has read the rejoinder to these questions by Duggal. Every question has been logically answered.
2- I was living in Delhi, near the infamous Trilokpuri, and have seen the anti-Sikh violence, not, repeat not, riots. Only Sikhs were killed, not a single Hindu.That killing of Sikhs was really state sponsored. But never came across any such questionnaire to Rajiv Gandhi or even to the Congress party.
The whole political and social scene today stinks.
Dear Editor,
please have a look at this link http://blog.offstumped.in/2012/02/26/a-rejoinder-to-outlookindia-on-its-25-questions-to-narendra-modi/ i certainly think this rejoinder to the article published here should also be published in your weekly.
Others landing here to this article are kindly requested to read this rejoinder (link given above) after reading this article for an even perspective.
Moderator's Note: Please see responses to the above
Najid Hussain
[[In his power pursuit, he has used and then dumped, rather backstabbed, many who had helped him move forward. Notable amongst these are Keshubhai Patel, Shankarsingh Vaghela, Murli Manohar Joshi, Atal Bihari Bajpai, and his own mentor and supporter - Lal Kishan Advani. History tells us this behavior always has a tragic end.]]
Show me one successful politician who hasn't exhibited the above traits. In your hatred for Modi, you are denouncing the very qualities that are a pre-requisite for any successful politician in today's world. The other alternative is to be a lapdog of a dynasty (like Manmohan Singh, AK Antony or the numerous Congressmen) and derive power from being the lapdog than your own abilities. And I believe having faith in your own abilities is any day better than bootlicking your way to power.
Suresh Kamath,
[[The court has ruled there is no case against Modi, but that still does not explain why Haren Pandya was slain?]]
What a stupid question! It appears that you want to hook Modi at any cost. When the court has ruled Modi isn't involved, why should he (or his government) explain why Haren Pandya was killed? It is for the cops to find out.
>> "Moreover if the newspaper did spread, false dangerous and communal rumors... "
It is only the perception or stand of the sickular gang who allege that the local dailies were spreading false and dangerous rumors. The way I see it, it was the national media that went balistic in their chase for TRPs.
>> "Even if Godhra Muslim do have history of rioting and violence that does not justify the parade of burnt bodies."
Hearsay comments again!! The only "parading" that happened was that the bodies were displayed to the media outside Sola Civil Hospital. Undoubtedly, it was a stupid thing to do, but there is a difference between "parading" and "displaying".
>>>> "Why do critics persist in arguing that this was a case of personal revenge and vendetta?" I never thought Sundeep was a nut case. What sort of question is this? How is Modi answerable to what his critics say? He was asked a question and he answered it. Now it is the responsibility of critics to prove if Modi lied. Merely repeating the same criticism is plain nutty. A more relevant question is -How Outlook has no shame in publishing trash? It is not treash because many of the questiones relate >>>>: What goes around comes around is a universal truism. So when Rajiv Gandhi said that when a big tree falls the earth shakes…that too is an universal truism??
>>>>>: Godhra Muslims have a long history of rioting and violence. Go check your facts. What kind of a stupid answer is that? Even if Godhra Muslim do have history of rioting and violence that does not justify the parade of burnt bodies. Any one with iota of common sense should have known that such an action would indeed add fuel to the fire. If they did not know that then such a person does not have any right to govern Any most of your response is pure drivel. The court has ruled there is no case against Modi, but that still does not explain why Haren Pandya was slain? Sanjiv bhatt is being harassed. If Modi is not guilty why is his government behaving in such a petty manner. It is okay to resurrect a a 21-year-old custodial death case allegedly involving Sanjiv Bhatt but not okay to question an incident that happened a decade ago? Strange logic indeed.. Narendra modi might have been cleared by court but his government but is government did, Slap the Official Secrets Act against whistleblower cop Rahul Sharma because he passed on explosive phone data records to the Nanavati Commission which showed that rioters were in touch with policemen and politicians. That does not stike to me as the behaviors of a person who wants to know the truth.. The SC’shas passed recent strictures against his government for initiating criminal proceedings against social activist Teesta Setalvad. Narendrs modi being guilty or not does not changes that fact.. All in all there are many facts to show that Narendrs modi’s government is/was doing everything possible to put spanner in the works of the judicial process. A government specially a government that does not hav anything to hide should not be harassing or threatening individiuals . or use laws to resurrect a dead case. What id being called into question by the author id the competency of the Narendra modi government I handling of the riots and aftermath. Also being called into question is the unwillingness of the government of Gujrat to get cooperate with the judicial inquiry through legal maneuvering. Also being called into question is the vindictive nature of the government. No amount of clean chit or 11% development changes that fact
>>>>>>>Bunch of Stupid and irrelevant questions, but the most hilarious of all is 23: “How is it that instead of censuring newspapers like Sandesh and Gujarat Samachar—which spread false, dangerous and communal rumours—you actually wrote them letters of appreciation while seeking to ban those who exposed the complicity of your administration in the violence?” >>>>>>Are you asking Mr. Modi to shut down a news paper? For sake of an argument, had he done that, you will be shouting “media censorship” and slapping yet another case against him!
Hi Smita
Censure means to condemn / Reprimand / reproach / denounce. How is that you came to the conclusion that the author was asking Modi to shut down the News paper? Does the news paper close down merely if some one condemns it? Moreover if the newspaper did spread, false dangerous and communal rumors, is it okay in your opinion if your chief Minister instead of condemning them for spreading malicious lies writes them a letter of appreciation.? And what is so hilarious about that.
Wrongone,
>> India is today a divided house.Unless these Muslims start understanding that ,the better there lives are going to be.
Most of the voices against Modi about 2002 massacres are Hindu liberal secular voices. This forum may have given you the wrong impression.
Bunch of Stupid and irrelevant questions, but the most hilarious of all is 23: “How is it that instead of censuring newspapers like Sandesh and Gujarat Samachar—which spread false, dangerous and communal rumours—you actually wrote them letters of appreciation while seeking to ban those who exposed the complicity of your administration in the violence?”
Are you asking Mr. Modi to shut down a news paper? For sake of an argument, had he done that, you will be shouting “media censorship” and slapping yet another case against him!
It's like SD asking Modi -
Dear Narendrabhai, Could you resign on moral ground so that we can have dynastic aspirants on the hot seat in Gujrat..
Beside, Priyanka now Robert Vadra is also in fray.. we need more states to rule.
Modi's insatiable apetite for power, combined with a total lack of discretion in choosing the means to get it, will eventually bring him down. In his power pursuit, he has used and then dumped, rather backstabbed, many who had helped him move forward. Notable amongst these are Keshubhai Patel, Shankarsingh Vaghela, Murli Manohar Joshi, Atal Bihari Bajpai, and his own mentor and supporter - Lal Kishan Advani. History tells us this behavior always has a tragic end.
As one of the former Chief Ministers of Gujarat said, Modi thinks of winning 'all the time', without any planning for losing. Consequently, moving forward he can only be at one of the extremes: either he will be the prime minister or he will go to jail. There is no other option for him.
>> A more relevant question is -How Outlook has no shame in publishing trash?
Outlook's response:
What is shame?
"Why do critics persist in arguing that this was a case of personal revenge and vendetta?"
I never thought Sundeep was a nut case. What sort of question is this? How is Modi answerable to what his critics say? He was asked a question and he answered it. Now it is the responsibility of critics to prove if Modi lied. Merely repeating the same criticism is plain nutty.
A more relevant question is -How Outlook has no shame in publishing trash?
These questions are absolute rubbish and reflect a predetrermined mindset of the blog writer. The most absurd question is "why do your critics still keep blaiming you despite your denials"??? This question should be addressed to the critics who possess the asinine mind. If they are honest these so called critics will say "yes we keep asking these because Gujarat riots is our livelihood"!!! Good luck Pseudo-Secularists...
[[It happened again -- google "Deganga 2011"]]
You don't get it do you? It is a riot, genocide, pogrom, holocaust etc. only when the victims are Muslims. When Hindus die, it is only because they deserve to die. An unbeliever is equal to a goat, whose destiny it is to be slaughtered at the hands of the pious.
>>> It wont be long before yet another pogorm or some say a incident like 2002 is far away.
It happened again -- google "Deganga 2011"
The site has become a slugfest between Farukhi and the rest,I am yet to see a single soul who has a neutral view.Which I do.
What either groups is going to get.No matter what is said,India is today a divided house.Unless these Muslims start understanding that ,the better there lives are going to be.All this talk of justice and rule of law is crap.Stop hoping and start living.
Be it corrupt or the Communal neither of them are going to be hanged.The nations Majority have changed these 10 years,the process has been gradual but steady.
It wont be long before yet another pogorm or some say a incident like 2002 is far away.
can the same questions be asked to the perpetrators of Deganga violence of 2011 in which Muslims destroyed Durga temple and injured many Hindus?...of course not...as Muslims have it as their birth right to vandalaize other religions
Ghai,
>> So now you too agree that.
That is rubbish. You seem to have no idea what Gujarat 2002 is all about. I don't think you will ever get it.
All the jihadist recruits are primarily motivated by exaggerated stories of Muslim persecution . 99% articles, videos ,documentaries depicting Muslims at the wrong end of justice , contain blatant Lies or half truth . The perceived injustice among the young Jihadists motivate them to commit heinous crimes in retaliation . Indians are the most religious liberal and tolerant people . But in order to run the smear campaign against BJP (The only National level opponent of Ruling party) Indian Media ,Academicians politicians are bent on running the falsehood. In the process BJP ‘s name may be sullied but world over India’s name also get sullied and India _Pakistan look alike to outside World !
> State sponsered programmes are where the rioters are not Killed '.Ghai
1.The police intervened only after there was mounting pressure and cries of national and international revulsion."
.2.There you go again! As if the fact that the police acted at long last is a saving grace for Modi! " Faruki
So now you too agree that :: In various Secu Ruled Roits the State Govts and Secu Police did never act inspite of world wide condemnation of the Congress /Lalu Govts
So why Secus /Liberals /Self anointed Gandhians /Muslims were never vocal and never so persistent to punish the COngressi goons ?? And how many times media asked 25 Questions from the Secu Govts or many TV programs have taken place ?/ Teary eyed Sardesai ,Barkha Dutts are roaming in various Gujarat Localities with glycerine viols .
How many shows or vists they have done in Delhi Sikh Localities,Hashimpura,Meerut., Bhagalpur , Moradabad,Gujrat Riots during Congrtess Rule ,did they ever named the Congress Ministers who were inflaming Hindus passions during 1969 ?? I was very much there in Ahmadabad and first hand know Kaya hua tha !. The amount of hai toba we we see now on th 10 th year of Gujarat has never been seen on 10th or 20th or 25th or 30th anniversaries of any of those riots .
But the message is very clear only Riots during Modi Rule to be discussed and condmened but Secu supervised riots ??
Choro na Ghai bhai Modi Puran ne wancho na !
Some of the questions are interesting and pointed. Rest of them are, as some of the boggers said - of the kind of - "Stop beating your wife"
Don’t such statements echo the ‘earth-shaking’ rationalisations offered by Rajiv Gandhi after the 1984 riots
It depends on how you want to see it !
Reg bringing back the dead to Ahmedabad from Godhra, if Iam not wrong, the Collector MsJayanti Ravi was of the opinion that they shouldnt be kept at Godhra and should be taken to Ahmedabad as, obviously, its very sensitive. Damned if you do, damned if you dont, is it?!
Sandesh and Gujarat Samachar—which spread false, dangerous and communal rumours
They may be akin to our Secu rumours reg Kausar bhanu, Ansari etc which are (still now) spread in secular mags ! you really cannot call them of spreading "dangerous rumours" - perhaps ! For some of the other questions, there are answers in Mr.Modi's SIT questioning by Mr.AKMalhotra. Later .... !
"If you really have nothing to hide, why do you refuse to engage with those who have raised such allegations about you?"
It seems that Sandeep Dougal dont know that he is CM of a State and not a journalist like him, that he has to come on News Channel and defend himself on daily basis.
Can you please share all the outlook bloggers with that Zee TV Interview part where he has spoken about action, reaction etc., etc., If he would have really spoken so by this time seuclar media would have played it day and night...like Bhajan Kirtan done at house on daily...So far media failed to show it...This theory remained with media only..
For this questiona also Modi already answered to Arnab when one o one took interview was held between them.
Sandeep trying to score point after many journamlist failed to do so.....Especially Times, Outlook, The Hindu and congress spoke persons...."Wish You All The Best Sandeep"
Sandeep can ask Sonia why she refuses to give her IT detail even via RTI...??Very recently someone from Chennai asked for her IT details she refused..If a peoples leader, elected by people and on peoples money how can she refuse? then how come Judges and other details from govt offices can be sought???
And just why should Modi repent? Did he personally participate in killing Muslims? Mind you, 700 Hindus were also killed in police firing and attacks by Muslim mobs. If he were so interested in letting Hindus vent their ire, such a thing would never have happened. Where is the objectivity when "journalists" like this one write?
I don't know what these so-called journalists gain by asking the same questions over and over again. One of the reasons the bodies were brought to Ahmedabad is that because Godhra is a small town and no provision exists for storing 59 bodies. I find this as valid a reason as any. Also, one should ask themselves whether the accounts of the cops is valid; they kept quiet for 10 long years and suddenly discovered the virtues of honesty overnight. Sanjeev Bhatt is someone who openly asked Congress leaders for a BlackBerry mobile (and got it, mind you). Can someone stake truth on the honesty of this man?
The whole Gujarat riots industry feeds thousands of vultures. If it is closed down or brought to an end, most of them would be out of business and looking for livelihood. That is why it is allowed to fester. Truth and justice are the last thing on their minds.
>> Would it make you happy if both the body counts were the same?
No. The only things that make jehadis happy are
1. More Hindus should die than Muslims. 2. RSS/BJP should somehow get the blame.
Kiran,
>> you seem to be more interested in the body count.
Not me. Talk to Ghai.
>> Though the people of Gujarat seem to have moved on to a large extent (atleast 90%) it is people like you who keep cribbing about terrible past.
It is not a "past". The cases are still in courts, SIT's and Commissions. People can move on and yet pursue justice at the same time. The Delhi Sikh massacre was 18 years earlier, and yet it is in courts. You should also visit some of the Sikh websites and see how they feel. India is a strong enough secular democracy, and will not crumble because people seek justice. India would be much weaker if people think that seeking justice may make India remain a "developing" country.
when questions are poed at modi on the 2002 riots, the matter is not sub-judice...
but when questions are posed on 2G or CWG or Adarsh or Hasan Ali case the matter is sub-judice
Will the outlook dare ask questions to PM/Sonia/Rahul on the above issues and refrain from taking answers such as "sub-judice" and publish them??
Anwaar mian,
[[Let Modi bring up those points in his defense in a court of law. But let us bring him to court first.]]
Modi can very well defend himself as he has proved over the last 10 years despite the efforts of a virulent anti-Modi campaign. But can you bring him to the courts? That is the big question; and going by past record, I think the answer is a resounding no. All you can do is squeal like you're doing on forums like these.
<< Will this mentality ever change?>> VOLETI
For the CongreeCrooks it is ulterior motives, for VotebankKukads it is genetic aberration. These are not going to change for a long long time.
@ Anwaar It is so unfortunate that so many people got killed in the police firing whether it was a Hindu or a Moslem. However, you seem to be more interested in the body count and feel sad that an X community had more people who died than a Y community. Would it make you happy if both the body counts were the same? Though the people of Gujarat seem to have moved on to a large extent (atleast 90%) it is people like you who keep cribbing about terrible past instead of concentrating on the glorious future ahead. Will this mentality ever change? India would eternally remain as a "developing" country if our thinking remains so backward.
Sandeep, It is good to be “journalist”! You get to ask any question you want but liable to none to answer any question others may have for you.
>> "But let us bring him to court first." - Anwaar
Get some evidence first. Vomiting your Madrassa lessons does not count for prosecutable evidence!!
>> invaders ..... naturally forfeit the right to question anyon esle's complicity. >> State executed pogroms against majority has a 1000 year history.
Let Modi bring up those points in his defense in a court of law. But let us bring him to court first.
>> State sponsered programmes are where the rioters are not Killed .
The police intervened only after there was mounting pressure and cries of national and international revulsion.
>> the reality that he got killed Hindu rioters killed.
There you go again! As if the fact that the police acted at long last is a saving grace for Modi!
Nobody Inparticular,
>> Modi has plenty of enemies within the BJP, NDA and even in the RSS due to his penchant for ruthless power play.
This may be true. Vinod Jose says of Modi in The Caravan, "Shortly before I left Gujarat, one RSS leader described his own feelings in a bitter sigh: “Shivling mein bichhu baitha hai. Na usko haath se utaar sakte ho, na usko joota maar sakte ho.” A scorpion is sitting on Shivling, the holy phallus of Lord Shiva. It can neither be removed by hand nor slapped with a shoe."
>> " I do not read Tehelka." - Vikk
It's a decent outfit, with the sole issue being its tendency for manufacture stings. Operation Kalank was indeed a kalank that even courts refused to acknowledge.
First and foremost, Tehelka failed to produce the complete set of videos to go with their transcripts. The "dubbing" was so pathetic that lip sync issues were apparent to anyone watching it.
Apparently, some carefully crafted questions about Babri were merged with riots-related questions. But, even if we give the group a benefit of doubt, the fact is that even the most rabid sickulars like Teesta and Sarabhai no longer refer to it. It is amusing that Sandeep Dougal wasted a full question on that shit.
Apart from its rabid tendencies to see saffron everywhere, I do like the depth of their reporting. As for its anti-saffron diatribes, Tarun Tejpal is giving back to BJP what he got from them - so, it's a fair game then.
>>>> Here is someone who made efforts against the violence by directing his police to riot areas, deploying the army within 24 hours.
>> That is his story, carefully crafted over several years, and now parrotted even by the SIT!
The SIT doesn't know that the jehadis follow a different calendar, where there are 3 days between Feb 28th and Mar 1st.
Here are the answers for Sandeep Dumbino. Maybe after this he migrates permanently with the Sonia Dumbino family to her land of birth: 1: What goes around comes around is a universal truism. 2: Godhra Muslims have a long history of rioting and violence. Go check your facts. 3: Bhatt or Pandya were not present at the said meeting. PERIOD. 4: Obviously because Bhatt is in the media glare. 5: Pandya was NOT present at the said meeting PERIOD. 6: The law takes its own course. 7: NO, that is a fact. 8: NO, not at all. 9: I have NOT KNOWN Jafri PERIOD. 10: Sharmas data were not original, but what he had concocted from the original, and then made the original “got lost”. 11: Ms Shitalvad has many cases pending against her, and the last word has not been said. 12: Bhatt has several cases pending against him, and the law must take its own course. 13: Nothing wrong in rewarding good work. 14: Law should take its own course. 15: Around 200 people were killed by Gujarat Police while controlling mobs, I do not think this is to be joked about. 16: I do not read Tehelka. 17: The Executive Magistracy did the best they could. 18: Politics is not the issue here. 19: Fact is Muslims all over the world have large families. 20: Compensation for the riots were given as objectively as possible. 21: Gujarat State has the policy not to restore religious structures, either because of natural or manmade disasters. Also hundreds of temples destroyed in Kashmir or Manipur have not been restored. 22: Gujarat State in 2002 did better than the Rajiv Govt in 1984 in containing the riots. 23: We have a free press in Gujarat. 24: You have to be pathetic if you look everything through the prism of religion. 25: Ten years is too long a time to invest on a riot, however unpleasant.
Something like this had also happened in Marad - Kerala, Can some media person also thow lights on this.
What about hate-dyed communal forces like yourself? " Faruki
Forget me sir .
But if you Secu frauds and Media persons have any sense of shame and sense of proportion then answer the question the Muslims and non communal Indians are asking .
Nazar to utah ,Aakh toh mila , Zuban toh kholo aur bata , Kitni baar mein Lutaa hoon " Rahat Indori
This what the Muslims and Indians are asking you Seculars as to how many time they have been looted and their houses have been burnt in India in name of Religion and for Politicians' greed of Votes ??
Once in 2002 and how many times in Secular Raj ??
Further :
Yeh paon se nahi ,par dimag se apahij hein,
whaan whaan jatey hein jahan Rehnuma ley jata hein ! (-Rahat Indori )
You are not handicapped to walk but are biased in thought and follow the Secu propaganda blindly .
Merely Modi Modi Japney se ( saying) will not uplift the Muslims nor will remove the social divide which you are regularly increasing.Have you got Sachar Report implemented ? Muslims' condition improved ?
But surely neither Media including OutLook nor Secular Vote bankers will allow the drift to be arrested and patched up between the Hindu Muslims.
Ask 125 Questions from Narendar Modi or publish thousands reports on Gujarat but unless they are balanced with crimes of Secular Riots in their 64 Rule in states and Centre barring BJP's 6 yrs in India these questions will never convince the Hindus .Hindus and Muslism are the important Parties in patching up the Racial divide.
What is the aim Hindu Muslim Bhaichara or to keep the hate pot on fire endlessly ? Unfortunately posing as well wishers of Muslims you people are always walking later on the confrontation mode and neve rthink of bringing them nearer .
What have Muslims have got in the last 64 yrs ?Just 25 these questions to be asked from Modi ???
Modi can simply dispose of each and every question saying that since numerous NGOs have asked him and his Govt all these 25 Questions plus hundreds other questions so will it not be correct to answer them in the Courts rather to reply you here Sir ??
Will it not be prudent and legally correct - Sir??
Asking Narendra Modi these questions is no different from that famous preconceived questioning,'When did you stop beating your wife?' to a man who had done nothing at all.
But state sponsored pogroms against minority do not have a long history in Inida.' Faruki
State sponsered programmes are where the rioters are not Killed like Hindu cleansing in Kashmir ,1984 and riots pre 20002 Gujarat qualify as State sponsored.
But Sawn ke andhe ko hara hi hara nazar ata hein. Better consult the doctor
First, 71 questions! Next,25 questions! How many in the future?Narendra Modi has contributed a lot to 'Outlook India' by becoming a subject for articles. He deserves royalty.
" By the way, the cases of those accused of setting the train on fire are also pending in Gujarat High Court 10 years after the incident. Justice is often slow.' Faruki
Sikhs waiting for 28 yrs since 1984 an dthe latest news is taht Butcher of Sardars was about to grant Mafinama on request of Sheila Dixit.Muslims of Ahmadabad waiting for 43 yrs since 1969,Muslims of Meerut ,Maliana,Moradabad waitng for 25 yrs since 25 yrs.Hindus and Muslims waiting for 25 yrs in Bhagalpur .
Whole of the India specially the Persons who were killed while saving the lives of the Parliamentarians are waiting for Justice for 21 yrs for Justice and Afzal Gurus hanging .Incidentally you were pleading here the vase of Afzal's defence that 'Wakil sarkar ney galat diya.Insaaf nahin mila bechare Afzal ko .'
Modi is not involved in those carnages but your own Payareys are .
Come on Boss why talk of delay in justice with an communalised way???
That is his story, carefully crafted over several years, and now parrotted even by the SIT! " Faruki
Not HIS story but the reality that he got killed Hindu rioters killed and thus nipped the riots quickly which other Govts could not even sub due in months and weeks.Even congress during its time faile dto nip Ahemedabad riots even in a week. Crafting is being and has been done only by Teetsa like NGOs for foreign funds sent by enemies of India.Latest example of illeffects of Foreign funding has been exposed two days back in case of Nuke Plants by MMS. Come on sir majority of the India know who are INDIA'S and Muslims well Muslims well wishers and who are exploiting for Votes and money .
A good 15 fellow bloggers have endorsed my views on the Questions to Modi by Sundeep.
It has been accepted by bloggers on this site that Modi is complicity in 2002 was never in Question ,But lack of solid documentary evidence is.
Inspite of documentary evidence in Kripa Shankar Singhs case of loot,DRI or IT are yet to summon the bloke.
That being the case to expect SIT or CBI to ask such serious questions on 2002 is unrealistic.Modi today is larger life.The Hindus look upto him and stand by his actions and dont see any need to apologise or be held accountable for 2002.
The more you debate the whole thiing the more rigid are his supporters going to get.Wonder when will this meet its logical end.God knows
"With both the Nanavaty Commission and the Raghavan SIT acting as if their sole job is to give a clean chit to Modi, this is not surprising. The only movement seems to occur when the Supreme Court intervenes. That is where the case is going to end up eventually. ANWAAR DALLAS, UNITED STATES
"With both the Nanavaty Commission and the Raghavan SIT acting as if their sole job is to give a clean chit to Modi, this is not surprising. The only movement seems to occur when the Supreme Court intervenes. That is where the case is going to end up eventually.
ANWAAR DALLAS, UNITED STATES
In essence you agree with me, except in specifics. Reread my original post
Either Modi is guilty and all-powerful OR he is innocent. If the former, we need to evolve mechanisms to check interference from CM's in due process of law. However, in either case Modi goes scot-free. I take no moral positions here, because I don't know if Modi is innocent or guilty, except that, constitutionally, he is innocent till proven guilty.
Personally, it appears a bit far-fetched to me that so many people will collude to protect someone who is deeply unpopular among politicians. Modi has plenty of enemies within the BJP, NDA and even in the RSS due to his penchant for ruthless power play.
All the 25 questions amount to basically this:
Have you stopped beating your wife (Yes/No)?
They are all loaded questions where answering anything will make the interviewee appear guilty.
>> 10 years of relentless ambulance chasing has not even resulted in a trial.
With both the Nanavaty Commission and the Raghavan SIT acting as if their sole job is to give a clean chit to Modi, this is not surprising. The only movement seems to occur when the Supreme Court intervenes. That is where the case is going to end up eventually.
"Given that after 10 years, in spite of all the powers at Modi's disposal, he is still being pursued by his accusers should say something to us."
Since the ambulance has been chased for 10 years, the dogs must be right?
By the way, the cases of those accused of setting the train on fire are also pending in Gujarat High Court 10 years after the incident. Justice is often slow. ANWAAR DALLAS, UNITED STATES
By the way, the cases of those accused of setting the train on fire are also pending in Gujarat High Court 10 years after the incident. Justice is often slow.
There is the world's largest valley between, "pending case/under trial" and "no case". Modi is NOT under trial. 10 years of relentless ambulance chasing has not even resulted in a trial. All that the ambulance chasers are looking for, is to somehow make Modi appear under trial which can be sold as evidence of guilt by the Congress media machinery. Even with such a limited goal, they have failed miserably.
But of course, you knew all this. Your incessant hand waving and obfuscation tactic is something we are used to.
Hari,
>> Here is someone who made efforts against the violence by directing his police to riot areas, deploying the army within 24 hours.
That is his story, carefully crafted over several years, and now parrotted even by the SIT!
> Inappropriate analogization seems to be a common characteristic of posters here
invaders who massacred 10000 if Hindus, terrorists who did ethnic cleansing naturally forfeit the right to question anyon esle's complicity
when are you write questions:
(a) Asking Indis Imelda Marcos and his gunda son-in-law Robrt Wadhera for plundering our country.
(b) Ask questions from MMS Jhangi for giving us most incompetent and corrupt govt ever.
(c) Ask congi criminals for murdering sikhs.
(d) Ask congis for giving our country six decades of misrule resulting in illetracy, poverty , corrution and china war. List is endless.
(e) Ask questions about people who burned the train at Godhra. Probably people involved in this act were congi criminals
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"But state sponsored pogroms against minority do not have a long history in Inida." State executed pogroms against majority has a 1000 year history.
>> Inappropriate analogization seems to be a common characteristic of posters here
Labeling everything inconvenient as "Inappropriate analogization" seems to be the last resort of the stuck pigs.
Here is someone who made efforts against the violence by directing his police to riot areas, deploying the army within 24 hours (a rapid response unmatched yet by any other CM during a riot situation). just by his virtue of having been a Swayamsevak (volunteer) before entering politics, people have started targetting him for the riots. All the chain of events that led to the sorrowful episode have been forgotten. He personally spoke to the media & called for a calm, he issued a plea to the rioters to stop rioting. He said both communities must live side-by-side.
Contrast this with the man who said " When a great tree falls, the earth shakes.", not making any attempt at hiding who/what the reason for rioting was. He did not call for an end to the violence but just stoked it manifold with these esoteric remarks. This person went on to become Prime Minister.His wife called the earlier person a "maut ka saudagar".
Compare & contrast ........
>> The Gujarat riots were plain riots- not pogrom’ or ‘massacre’
It was a pogrom.
>> The state government- far from being involved in the riots- handled the riots effeciently and controlled them in 3 days.
The state government poured oil on fire by parading the charred bodies in the streets of Ahmedabad, it did not take either preventive measures, nor pro-active measures, and it did not respond expeditiously or even adequately when the massacre started. Subsequently the state government had ample time to reconstruct and embellish the accounts of its response, which were swallowed whole by the Raghavan SIT.
>> Why the media is harping on Modi?
A Chief Minister alleged to be complicit in a major massacre will be harped upon.
>> Given that after 10 years we haven't gotten anywhere...
Given that after 10 years, in spite of all the powers at Modi's disposal, he is still being pursued by his accusers should say something to us. By the way, the cases of those accused of setting the train on fire are also pending in Gujarat High Court 10 years after the incident. Justice is often slow.
>> Communal riots have a long history in India.
But state sponsored pogroms against minority do not have a long history in Inida.
>> never heard any senior journalist question Rajiv Gandhi about the ‘earth-shaking’ rationalisations.
Inappropriate analogization seems to be a common characteristic of posters here.
>> Now that all the charges levelled at Modi by Sreekumar, Bhatt and others are failing to stick.
Because there is a conspiracy to trash them but all their charges are going to come back to haunt Modi and you!
normally, someone is innocent until proven guilty. in case NAMO, he is guilty until proven innocent!!. hitler tried this, and now OUTLOOK is trying this. this crap gives pakistan and bangla desh more ammunition to kill hindus. who needs taliban when we have OUTLOOK.
just replace 2002 in the article as 1984 and Narendra modi as Rajiv Gandhi....then you can splatter names like tytler, sajjan kumar instead of bhatt, jafri....
Can I now have the answers please?
You mean to say that asking such questions makes his development-focussed corporate leaders get all uncomfortable and queasy and makes all his fanboys look like cheerleaders for a murderous ogre, so we should all play nice and praise the growth of industry in Gujarat instead?
No need to ask so many questions. Just ask him if he is guilty?
Keep repeating the question till he says YES .
What makes Vinodh Mehta to publish such an article? Why the media is harping on Modi? Is Modi liable to answer every nonsense the media may ask him? Dont forget, Gujarat is also in India only and it is flourishingin all the ways. The whole world is appreciating Modi's genius, dynamism and charisma. When the media is running after the paid news category, none is there to take to your views. The more the Modi bashing, the more he emerges stronger. It is clear Modi is Gujarat and Gujarat is Modi. It is said he is the onlyleader now to lead India to prosperity really.
I fail to understand the reason for asking these questions. Is this an attempt to show that the SIT did not do its job? Do they really think that 71 questions answered as briefly as noted in the leaked report will take 9 hours to answer? If any Tom, Dick, and Harry decides to ask Modi questions, it will take an eternity for the exercise to complete. If Sundeep thinks that he can do a better job than AK Malhotra, he should apply for a position in the CBI and wait for an appointment for an SIT in the future to hone his skills. Or he could let the law take its course and let those who are competent do their jobs.
Innocent well-meaning people have fallen prey to the media’s evil designs. The Gujarat riots were plain riots- not pogrom’ or ‘massacre’. The state government- far from being involved in the riots- handled the riots effeciently and controlled them in 3 days- while riots continued in Gujarat for 6 months in 1969 and 1985 under Congress rule in which close to 10,000 people each were killed. At the time of the 2002 riots, this same English media did report the truth at times. The following facts will make it clear- 1) On 28 February 2002 , The Hindustan Times reported that the entire police force of 70,000 had been deployed in Gujarat view of apprehensions that riots may break out. 2) On Feb 28 The Indian Express reported that “(On Feb 27) the state government had deployed the Rapid Action Force in Ahmedabad and other sensitive areas and the Centre sent in CRPF personnel”.. Both these reports were published even before a single riot had taken place. 3) Riots began in Ahmedabad on Feb 28 at 11 AM . India Today weekly ( 18 March 2002 ) reports that Modi informally requested the Centre for deployment of Army at 12-00 noon i.e. within 1 hour. The same weekly also reports one column of troops reached Ahmedabad at 2-30 AM on 1st March and staged a flag march the same morning at 9 AM. 4) The same weekly in the issue also says that the then Defence Minister George Fernandes was in Ahmedabad at 2-00 Am on 1st March on Modi’s request and was bravely on Ahmedabad’s streets that morning (1st March) at a great personal risk. 5) The Hindu reported on 1st March 2002 that, “The Army units, frantically called by the Chief Minister, Narendra Modi…started arriving in Ahmedabad…”.This shows that some Army units reached Ahmedabad so quickly on Feb 28 that The Hindu had time to report their arrival on Feb 28 itself and publish it on 1st March! 6) Out of 18,600 villages, 240 towns and 25 district headquarters, hardly 60 places saw riots. One-third of Gujarat, i.e. Saurashtra and Kutch were completely unaffected by riots even in the first 3 days. After the first three days- riots were limited to Ahmedabad, Vadodara and some places near Godhra- and almost all were started by Muslims. 7) In the first three days- Gujarat police shot dead 98 rioters- majority of whom were Hindus. On 1st March, The Hindu reported that- “At least 10 people have been killed in police firing in Ahmedabad alone by evening (of Feb 28)”. Then on 2nd March, The Indian Express reported that “Police shot dead 20 people in Gujarat, 12 in Ahmedabad, on 1st March”. Then on 3rd March, Indian Express reported-”77 more people have been killed in Police/ Army firing (on 2nd March)”. Then on 2nd March ‘The Hindu’ reported that-”Unlike Feb 28 when one community was entirely at the receiving end, the minority backlash on 1st March has further worsened the situation.” The Times of India dated 18 March 2002 devoted a complete report titled, “Riots hit all classes, people of all faith” on Hindu victims of the riots and says, “Contrary to popular belief that only Muslims have been affected in the recent riots more than 10,000 persons belonging to the Hindu community have also become homeless”. 9) The Indian Express devoted two full reports exclusively to Hindu victims in Ahmedabad in its issues dated 7 May 2002 and 10th May 2002. The victims were not only homeless; they did not even have relief camps to live in, and hence had to live in temples. 10) India Today weekly reports in its issue dated 27 May 2002, “A series of attacks by Muslims on policemen has further added to mutual lack of faith. Now strapped with the anti-Muslim label, the police has been slow in acting against Muslim fanatics”. 11) India Today (27 May 2002) also gives details of attacks on Hindus by Muslims. The same weekly reports in its issue dated 15 April 2002 that- “A young Hindu went to Himmatnagar (Muslim) area of Ahmedabad to do business and was found dead, with his eyes gouged out”. This issue also gives details of Muslim aggression. 12) India Today weekly dated 22 April 2002 also reports that ‘Gujarat police saved 2,500 Muslims from certain death in Sanjeli, North Gujarat on 1st March 2002′. The weekly also says- ‘Like Sanjeli, 5,000 Muslims were also saved in Bodeli town in Vadodara district by the police’ and ‘Thousands of Muslims were also saved in Viramgam town from 15,000 armed Hindus’ by police and the Army. The UPA government- staunchly anti-BJP, has given figures of 790 Muslims and 254 Hindus killed in the Gujarat riots, and 223 missing, in Rajya Sabha on 11 May 2005. A total of 790 Muslims were killed in the riots- more than thrice that number were saved on one day at a single place. 13) Throughout Gujarat riots- there are only two instances of real anti-Muslim riots-The Ehsan Jafri case and the Naroda Patiya case. In the Ehsan Jafri case, the police shot dead 5 Hindus outside his house and saved the lives of more than 200 Muslims. There were 250 people inside Jafri’s house and the mob killed 39- with police saving more than 200- despite being overwhelmingly numbered by the rioters who were more than 10,000.. 14) There have been 4 convictions of Muslims for rioting after Godhra and Muslims were given various sentences. 4 Muslims were convicted by a Vadodara fast track court on 16 October 2003 and given life imprisonment. Ex-Vadodara Deputy Mayor and Congress leader Nisar Bapu was acquitted, but his son and son-in-law were convicted. This was reported in at least three English dailies, including The Times of India dated 17 October 2003. 9 and 7 Muslims were convicted in two separate judgments on 18 and 28 March 2006 by fast track courts in Ahmedabad- reported by all major English dailies the next day. Muslims were hardly the cattle hiding from the slaughter house that the media makes them out to be. The conviction of Muslims proves that Muslims were equally on the offensive. The newspaper editors and others who call the Gujarat riots as a ‘holocuast’, ‘pogrom’, ‘genocide’ or ‘massacre’ should look at their own newspapers’ reports on these very things. Will these facts awaken the conscience of the newspaper editors and journalists and ofcourse the electronic media and make them reveal the bitter truth of the Gujarat riots- that even after Godhra, the riots that followed were not one-sided?
Also, has the SC not rejected Mr. Bhat's affidavit?? so what is the point bringing his name again??
has most the questions put forth above not been answered to SIT??
will you continue asking the same questions until he gives the answers that you expect him to??
Stop assassinating the character of an individual... wait for the SIT to file its final report... if it is not satisfying to you, you always have the higher courts at your disposal...
why do you want to hang modi before giving him a fare trial??
you think he is really guilty, defeat him electorally... unfortunately the congress in Gujarat is so impotent that it is not even ready to think about forming an organization strong enough to defeat Modi and his electoral strategy.
Why do you keep talking about Post -Godhra and not Ghodra event, which led to riots?
How can Narendrabai respond to these questions when TRUTH AND MODI'S MOUTH are separated by SEVEN PLANETS , and FRAUDULANT LIES lie at the TIP OF HIS TONGUE.?.
(Sandeep han not discovered the TALENTS needed for a PRIME MINISTER- IN- MAKING,)
All this breast beating is of no consequence.
Given that after 10 years we haven't gotten anywhere our conclusions can only be one of the following:
1. Modi is guilty has hell, but CM's are far too powerful to be nailed in the current political setup. Curb the power of CM's to ensure that he/she cannot interfere in the due process of law.
2. Modi is innocent.
In either case, Modi goes scot-free. Why are we wasting our time?
A clever ploy , these questions ! But since you know the answers,why bother disguising them as questions ( indictments?) and not as your views? You would have greater credibility if they were argued as your honest opinions shared,sadly,by the Delhi based English media and intelligentsia.
Communal riots have a long history in India and yes, Gujerat. Please ask yourself : why do they happen with such regularity all over India-and indeed the world.Did NM invent them? Did he engineer Godhra so as to wreak havoc on innocent Muslims and Hindus?
A corrolary to the question,inevitably, is why Gujerat has been freed of this evil over the last decade.Please pray and work that they do not happen again rather than rake a tragic history going back decades.
By the way, Inspector Bhatt is a known fraud : please check out his record of leaking self- stories to the media.
I never heard any senior journalist question Rajiv Gandhi about the ‘earth-shaking’ rationalisations. Nor has Gandhis beein called communal after Shah Bano and after all that they have been saying to divide India on communal and caste basis. Good that you have remembered it while attacking Narendra Modi, so that you may look to be a neutral persion today.
Regarding question 2, probably you have forgotten the major riots of 1969 in Gujarat. You have also forgotten the decade of riots from 1980-90. if you do not forget this ground reality, Modi's response will look to be very correct.
Question 3 should be asked to the media and the gandhi family, which drives the media to this anti-Modi frenzy.
Now that all the charges levelled at Modi by Sreekumar, Bhatt and others are failing to stick, you are trotting out the case of Haren Pandya. My God give you and your tribe good sense so that India may be able to move beyond the politics of identity. But will you and Gandhi family permit Indians to ever forget its caste and its communal identity?
In any civilised society, Modi would have been hanged or at least imprisoned. But in India, he has been reelected to head the state!
This only shows the inefficiency of our judicial system and portends badly for our country.
>> "Why did you single out Bhatt and say he wasn’t present at the Feb 27 meeting when you were only asked about those present?"
I too wondered about that. It is known that whatever information the SIT gathered was passed on to the Gujarat government the same evening. The two worked as hand in glove. I would not be surprised if Modi had prior intimation of Malhotra's questions, and was well prepared by his lawyers for the interrogation. By the way he has never been cross examined so far by any of the lawyers of the Jan Sangharsh Manch.
Excellent compendium of questions from Sundeep for Narendrabhai.
Reading the Question put out by Sandeep,had even half of them been put to Modi the proof about events in 2002 will be out.
There has never been any doubt over the role of powers that be on the events of 2002.
Getting a agency or a team to ask these Questions is impossible,To all those right thinking Indians ,How on earth do you expect this to happen.When Kripa Shankar Singh a Milk Vendor and erst while President of MPCCI whoose family handled 100s of crores,given there filed returns were just a few lakhs and till date the IT department hasnt Questioned him till date.
Is this bloke as Big or as admired as Modi.When u cant book a bloke after documentary evidence ,How do expect agencies to fix Modi ,mind you the events and continuation for days are a proof of his complicity but no proof as in the Kripa Shankar case.
Yes may be 2002 raises issues of human rights and so on,but these have become irrelevant in India.You have a history for it in 84 as well.
“Holding Narendra Modi responsible for whatever happened in Gujarat in 2002 is like trying a Hangman for the murder of a ‘Convict’ handed out the ‘Death Sentence’”