Whatever Yogendra Yadav may say, even a layman knows that the BSP is not doing well in UP and that the SP has the brightest chances of finishing first (The More They Don’t Remain the Same, Feb 27). The question is whether it’ll get a majority on its own. And though Yadav has dedicated most of his column on a party that is fighting hard to finish third, it is only fond hope on his part; there is no doubt that the party will finish a respectable last.
Ravinder Singh Shekhawat, Bikaner
Whether it translates into votes or not, there is no denying that Rahul Gandhi has been a great success in the UP election campaign. He is the only one who has focused on development issues: improvement of infrastructure, irrigation, power, education and employment. The bjp is back to Ayodhya. Mayawati has no interest in the progress of the people of UP; in their ignorance and backwardness lie her advantages. And Mulayam Singh Yadav, of course, is promising the moon. Now, it’s up to the intelligence and wisdom of the voters to think who serves their interests the best.
Virendra S., Wellington, New Zealand
In India, journalists write stories that sell, or what they see through their casteist lens, or tailored to whoever pays the most. Yogendra Yadav, on the other hand, is a respectable political analyst whose views you may or may not agree with, but which carry weight. But the caste mindset remains strong as ever. Who will tell a stranger that he or she is a supporter of a Dalit party?
Rajesh Chandra, Phoenix
It is almost certain that the SP will bag the highest number of seats if not a majority. In all likelihood, therefore, the Congress will extend outside support to SP, ostensibly to keep communal forces at bay and to avoid re-election. This alliance may last till 2014 when the Congress withdraws support, citing misgovernance in the state and then enter the election fray on its own. After all, there can be no doubt that Congress and Rahul are ultimately chasing Mission 2014.
Pramod Srivastava, New Delhi
My guess is that all commentators will be proven wrong and Mayawati will return to power again, even if she does not get an overwhelming majority.
Anshul, Indore
Even if the present BSP government is voted out of power—if at all it happens, it will be only due to anti-incumbency, nothing else—it will prove beneficial for them in 2014, when the stakes are going to be much higher.
Anand Tripathi, Lucknow
I think the SP will stun everyone this time with its performance across UP. It’s riding an upper-caste wave of anger and consolidating its position with the help of the Muslim and obc vote. Moreover, it’s the only party seen to be an effective opponent of the BSP. The SP could end up with 180-185 seats, if not more. The BSP is virtually finished this time. There is a huge anti-incumbency wave across UP and all castes, with the sole exception of Jatavs, have deserted Mayawati. But to say that a virtually cadre-less Congress can displace the BSP from second position, as Yogendra Yadav does, is a gross overestimate.
Chinmay, hyderabad
All I can say is, the people of UP are staring at a basket full of rotten apples. A rather joyless menu of options.
Gilbert D’Souza, Bangalore
Being a psephologist, Yogendra Yadav has kept all his cards open so that when the results come in he can say, did I not predict that?
S.C. Sharma, New Delhi
I think statisticians indulge in too much opinion-mongering. They worry too much about the skew in the datasets, not the bias in their own minds when they pass off opinion mixed with onground stats.
Kautilya, Washington DC
Rahul Gandhi’s career is yet to kick off, yet we already have “a first comprehensive biography” and a review of it in your magazine. And just a week after that, he is on your cover! If only Indira had married a person with a lesser surname, our nation would have been better off and the media wouldn’t be going ga-ga over the wrong Gandhi.
Umesh Kesavan, Madurai
So, what happens if Rahul fails? Nothing really. Your stories are based on the premise that the current elections will have national implications. Does anyone remember the 2011 election and its implications? Or the Bihar election? The Congress lost every election in 2008, yet managed to win handsomely in 2009. The bjp won big in 2003, only to be wiped out in 2004. Likewise, these elections will have no bearing three months from now. Wait and watch.
V.R. Ganesan, New Jersey
Brahmins and the dalits in UP could go together ,has surprised many political and media pundits and there is no doubt the current BSP government could prove to be a role model for future political as well as social meshwork for other states too. Even if the present BSP government is voted out of power ,if it all it happens could be due to anti incumbency rather than anything else,it will prove beneficial for them in 2014 when the stakes are going to be much higher .No person is above his own preferences and biases,including Mr Yogendra Yadav and hope he is proved wrong this time for the first preference for people of UP is law and order,much beyond anything else.
GANESAN >> It would be a good thing if Congress or BJP comes to power in UP.
Your sweet little world is long gone.
Readers here seems to be either biased or short sighted. Rahul has been great success during the election campaign. He has focussed on development, employment, irrigation, power, education and improvement of infrastructure, while all other parties have said nothing on these issues. BJP is back to Ayodhya, mayawati, of course has no use to any progress of people of UP, because their ignorance & backwardness is her biggest assets. Mulayam is promising moon. Now it's really up to the intelligence and wisdom of the voters to think what is in their interst.
Tthe article is absurd.. even a layman knows that bsp is not doing well and sp has the brightest chances of finishig first on the talley.. the biggest question is that can sp get the majority on its own.. and mr yadav is mum on that..its also no sectet that congress is trying hard to finish third in the talley.. and we see the wisdom of mr yadav that he has dedicated this article to a party that is working hard for the third position.. there is certainly something fishy.. is markandaya katju listening.. mr yadav.. i respected you a lot.. but am disappointed at your bias for khangress and this shoody picture of the up polls.. and let me tell u.. bjp is in for the third position.. and khangress will be at the respectable fourth position.. the articles seems to have an ulterior motive..
"Khan" gress ki admi hai yeh. Aur yadav hone ki nathe hi woh bol raha hai ki "SP stands for the restoration of order".
Wierd logic Mr Yadav,you say that Price Rise is NOT about inflation but governance?This is just one of the factual errors in this piece.
Last few days,there has indeed been a shift in the media wrt projection of the Prince.There has been a certain tempering of the news.This can be for one of the two reasons possible.
First possibility is the Prince thinks its unwinnable and is slowly reducing expectations and if this is so we will see him less and less on media on this issue to get an honorable exit.This could have a gameplan of a Presidents rule in UP and dismissal of MMS but no mid-term elections.
Second possibility is Prince has put into place a foolproof EVM rigging plan and would like to project results as a 'surprise'.The media will then focus on 2009 Cong performance as a comparison to keep dissenting voices 'down'.This will b followed by MMS dismissal or Presidentship move to make way for Mid-term elections to quickly translate UP model to whole India and get a a big LS majority on its own.
Unlikely third possibility is a middling performance,which will follow effects of second possibility with a lag.
>> "It would be a good thing if Congress or BJP comes to power in UP." - Ganesan
Well said. The first step should be an end of these caste/religion-centric parties like BSP, RLD, RJD, SP etc. But, it will be unfair to bucket them together. Nitish Kumar, Chandrababu Naidu and Naveen Patnaik are fine examples of how regional parties also deserve a place in our polity.
my uess is all commentrators will be proven wron and Mayawati will form overnment aain. may be not with overwhelmin majority but clsoe to the maic number and with possible support from BJP
Anwaar mian,
[[I don't think I have quite said that, but it is an angle that can be useful in order to needle the die-hard BJP-ites in the forum.]]
Thanks for admitting that you don't let facts get in the way of your arguments. But then, most people here already know about it and deal with you accordingly.
It would be a good thing if Congress or BJP comes to power in UP. Either of these parties will be infinitely better than SP and BSP.
I think in ;last 20 days the situation in UP has changes so much that congress and BJP cant even hope for a decent performance leave alone coming back to power.A new social alliance of various castes to oust mayawati and her dalit dominated government is taking place across UP and all old calculations will come crashing down.Brahmins for some reason along with other upper castes are moving towards SP and this is no mean development.It has the potential to bust both BJP and congress.Secondly the failure of the muslims quota to play up gains for congrss is clearly visible with muslims rooting for SP and some prefering peace party but not many favoring congress.The failure of the quota card also means no gains for BJP with even OBCS tilting in mass towards SP.
I expect SP to surge hugely ahead and come close to 190 seats followed by BSP at a distant second with 85-90 seats.BJP and congress will each wont cross more than 50 seats each
Yogendra yadav is glib talking.A government with a Dalit lady at the helm has been in place in Uttar Pradsh for five years and it is already status quoist.Ha! Five years.That's it.What sort of social transfromation is expected from a government which has been in charge of the affairs of a state which can absorb three Australia and many Delhi's(if we go by the geographical extent of Uttar Pradesh) in it.The challenge is so huge.Sure,we must analyse and look back as to what has been achieved? But let there be a fair criticism.One should not judge a government's performance by one scale and use a different scale for another.Congress raj has been around for many years.BJP has also tasted power.Even Left front has a notable record of governing states like Kerala and West Bengal for long.Here.Just five years pass by and judgement is already out for a party.Let there be no foreclosure to a party's potential and its ability to influence politics and usher change.The change is not away.Just feel it. BSP has already shaken up the status quoists.
Regarding talking " approvingly of Rahul Ji's and Priyanka Ji's innate wisdom", I don't think I have quite said that, but it is an angle that can be useful in order to needle the die-hard BJP-ites in the forum "
First it was Mai- Baap Sarkar . Now it is Beta, Beti, Natis,Jami Sarkar !
(Cartoon in News Paper)
Amit,
I found the article balanced because it treats the pros and cons of all sides fairly. You may not find it balanced. That is your privilege.
Regarding talking " approvingly of Rahul Ji's and Priyanka Ji's innate wisdom", I don't think I have quite said that, but it is an angle that can be useful in order to needle the die-hard BJP-ites in the forum.
Being psephologist, he has tried to keep all the cards open so that in the end when the results come he may say, 'Did I not predict it that way?'
Psephology - Astrology. Any difference?
Maha,
Mr. Yadav has that rare crystal ball at his disposal. He doesn't need facts.
Anwaar,
I prefer to be a serious discussant, whether liberal or not, is a moot point. Now, can you explain me how this article is balanced. Mr. Yadav is apparently a statistician. I don't see any data analysis. All he needed to produce this bilge was a train ride through UP and viola he had all the answers. If he had done a survey, I would have taken his word with some seriousness.
I thought you were a serious discussant till I read you talk approvingly of Rahul Ji's and Priyanka Ji's innate wisdom. I can assure you that one can lay a trap in any nukkad in India and catch at least a dozen abler people than these dynastic junkies.
By all accounts, Mayawati has done a better work than her predecessors.
It is such a disappointing article coming from someone who claims to be social scientist. There is not any facts/statistics to support his analysis.
>> That is why some chamchas of the Gandhi family find this article "balanced and readable".
It is sad that you have been reduced to being a smear artist! I was once fooled into thinking that you were a serious liberal discussant.
Subhash Ji,
"Sh. Yadav speaks favorably of one party in one breath and counters it in the other. "
That is why some chamchas of the Gandhi family find this article "balanced and readable".
Yadav's wishful thinking masquerading as analysis.
>>The way he predicted a Congresss-DMK victory in Tamil Nadu? I hope you jest, Sire.
Point well-taken, Sire. I still think Yogendra is a notch better than astrologers :)
Cleverly, media is predicting SP strong as it'd take Congress' support and BSP as well as BJP weak as they may come together. In such a large state with four corner contest the speculation are coloured by personal preference. No one can tell the outcome until the day of counting.
Articles like this lead us nowhere. Sh. Yadav speaks favorably of one party in one breath and counters it in the other. Being psephologist, he has tried to keep all the cards open so that in the end when the results come he may say, 'Did I not predict it that way?'
Over the years, I have appreciated incisive data analysis and progressive opinions of Yogendra Yadav. This article further cements his reputation.
The way he predicted a Congresss-DMK victory in Tamil Nadu? I hope you jest, Sire.
Paid news service in full form. BSP 3rd spot,BJP 4th spot and congress no 1 spot? why can';t you also select congress CM and celebrate congress victory in advance?
Okay fine. BSP is going to lose badly. It is going to be at the 3rd place. Now, can someone explain why her rallies are 8-9 times bigger than Rahul Ji's rallies. We know, for sure, that the people don't come to her rallies to just gawk at her.
///But he should rather confine himself to his domian of doing surveys than passing political judgements.The fact is congress cant go beyond a point in UP where it lacks the organisation itself to make a mark.I have been watching yogendra yadav from sometime and he has been claiming congress can touch 100 seats.///
He is claiming rightly and he knows it that kangres has planted a perfect set up for rigging of EVM if it worked. So they are doing their duty to create an atmosphere that results should look authentic if kangres win.
I have always liked and respected Yogendra Yadav for his accurate and almost up to the point election surveys.But he should rather confine himself to his domian of doing surveys than passing political judgements.The fact is congress cant go beyond a point in UP where it lacks the organisation itself to make a mark.I have been watching yogendra yadav from sometime and he has been claiming congress can touch 100 seats.Probably he is getting carried away the media frenzy.The fact is if congress does cross 60 seats then it would be called a miracle
In India journalists write political stories that sell, or what they see through their casteist lens, or whoever pay most. Yogendra Yadav, on the other hand, is a respectable political analyst. Like or not, his views carry weight.
But caste mindset is still strong. Who will tell a stranger he or she is supporter of a Dalit party? It is a matter of shame. What was the media prediction in the previous UP poll? I don't think anyone predicted Mayawati's win.
An article by one YADAV- YOGENDRA YADAV to "benifit" another YADAV- MULAYAM YADAV. Evidently the YADAV in Yogendra does not allow him to state that the best SP can hope is to form the UP Govt with Congress support. In return SP MPs will become "slaves" of Congress in Delhi to offset TMC.---------------------------- Rahul Effect??? Rahul who speaks about corruption in UP is totally silent on the most corrupt Congress led UPA GOVT- 2G, CWG, ISRO, ADARSH, BILLIONS in SWISS BANKS (500 BILLION $ as per CBI Director)----- What a shame that such articles are published in media claiming to be "independent".
>>In a climate of cynicism, he has presented something of a forward-looking vision.
Congress apologists masquerading as independent observers will never change. On many occasions in the past, such observers have talked of Rahul presenting some new vision but they were conveniently silent on what this new vision was. Yadav is repeating the script this time too. So we have our 'independent media' busy spinning about Rahul's 'vision', his 'evolution', his 'coming of age' - translated as total BS!
Yogendra Yadav is a known sympathiser of congress and in this election his preference is out in the open.While i agree that SP is the front runner this time and it alone is going to be the biggest gainer this time even a simple majority cant be ruled out i find it amusing that yogendra yadav talks of a congress revival in UP.The fact is even in gandhi family bastion like raebareilly the party is facing very tough election in form of akhilesh singh .If this is the position of congress in their traditional stronghold what can be its fate in rest of UP.Yogendra Yadav should realise that massive media support cant make or break an election outcome.Its the public percption which matters.I have been wtaching UP from last one year and entire english and hindi media was obessed with rahul not even acknowleding presence of mulayam and his son akhilesh.
But did it make congress number one in state.Yogendra yadav is making himself a laughing stock when he says that muslim reservation will not impact the electoral outcome.Does he think UP OBCS are so dumb that they would quitely see their share of jobs and educational seats being snatched and gioven to muslims.Just wait for the results.BJP will surprise this time
I think SP will stun everyone with its performance this time.It is riding a upper caste wave of anger and conoslidating its position with help of muslim and OBC vote.Moreover its the only party seen to be an effective opponent of BSP.SP could end up with 180-185 seats if not more.BSP is virtually finished this time.There is huge anti incumbency wave across UP and all castes with exception of jatav dalits have desrted mayawati.But to say a virtually ocadre less congress can displace BSP from second position is wrong.The fact is that voters in UP with muslims included are not interested in congress or rahul.The media hype around rahul and paid news has brought him this far and not more.BJP as usual will not get even 25 seats
Granted that it is an opinion piece from Yogendra Yadav, I think statisticians should not indulge in too much opinion airing. The bane of statisticians like Yadav is that they worry too much about the bias in the datasets and not in their own little minds when they pass off their opinions mixed with on-the-ground stats.
No facts presented in this article. It is almost obvious that congress is not going to improve its tally. SP may gain some seats on the cost of BSP but not too many.
It looks very much like Mayavati is finished this time. She came to power last time solely because she had the support of the upper castes and the muslims, in addition to the entire Dalit votebank. The BSP was also the only viable option that time, as the SP was tainted and the Congress non-existent. Now the muslims and upper castes won't vote for her, and the some of the Dalits seem to be unhappy as well. The Congress has made inroads and the SP has re-invented itself. The BSP's run is over.
It looks almost certain that the SP will bag the highest number of seats sans a majority. Therefore in all likelihood, the Congress would extend outside support to SP on the eternal excuses of keeping the communal forces away and to avoid the elections. This alliance may last until the close of the general elections 2014 when the Congress would withdraw support citing the misgovernance in UP and then enter the elections fray on its own. Afterall, the ultimate target of the Congress party and Rahul is Mission-2014.
Yogendra Yadav's writeup has no depth.He is swayed by the constant media hype about the influence of Rahul Gandhi on the outcome of UP elections.On the otherhand Nitish Gadkari saying that BJP will prove to be the 'Dark Horse' looks realistic.Mumbai results are a precursor to the results in UP elections.
“The contest in UP is ‘EQUALLY POISED’ with all negativity, because all 4 major contenders have one BLOT or the OTHER.”
The further we move from Indian independence 1947, the less the difference among the political parties.
The only difference seem to be on the divisive angles - some depending more on gender, some on caste, and some on religion, Gandhi family tragedy, female molestation, language etc. etc.
No one seems interested in corruption anymore - with an undependable judiciary, it has become a sine quo non of the Indian political psyche.
Balanced and readable article.
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