Anwaar mian,

[[They are the true heirs of Savarkar, Golwalkar and Godse.]]

Just like terrorist Muslims are true heirs of you know who?

Bowenpalle,

>> "The Hindutva terror which you wrote about was mostly a "reprisal terrorist" incidents."
 

That's what the Hindutva apologists want us to believe! Col. Purohit, Sadhvi Pragya and other Abhinav Bharatis (headed by Himani Savarkar) do not react to events. They are the true heirs of Savarkar, Golwalkar and Godse. Since they plant their bombs in such a way that innocent Muslims end up in jail and suspicion is diverted from the true culprits, it is possible that some other incidents blamed on IM's etc may be actually their work.

@@Anwaar
The “new face of terror “discussion is different here. The Hindutva terror which you wrote about was mostly a "reprisal terrorist" incidents.

If Subramanian swamy is to be believed, they were all cleverly organized by Congress Party. I would not be surprised a little bit if that were true, considering their engineered communal riots in Hyderabad and Aligarh and other places at various points of time. Once the Congress government along with their internal power struggles for chief minister ship was gone, communal riots disappeared!!! During the first part of NTR rule, the "experts" tried their hand but later on they could not succeed. And again Chandra babu naidu's rule they were totally absent.

In Batala encounter incident an inspector died in the firing and yet Muslim preachers, their sycophants and Congress party general secretary Digvijay Singh say that it was all fake. The inspector was awarded "Ashoka Chakra" posthumously for his bravery and sacrifice. And yet Digvijay again declared as recently as yesterday that he would stand by his claim that it was a fake encounter. UPA chairperson, Sonia ji reported broke down and wept after seeing the pictures of dead bodies of Muslim "terrorists" in the encounter. When the elections come, lies fly around.

This all shows that we cannot tackle terrorism. How Indiraand Rajiv ,Narasimha rao managed to finish terrorism in Punjab or Assam and MGR in Tamil Nadu is unbelievable to me. We are country of disorganized people.

We have entered a bad phase in Indian politics without a strong leader in any party.

 

If we think that IRAN is our friend and hence we should not suspect it in our own interest is sheer nonsense. It is like Nehru believing that China would not attack a poor country ( at the time) like ours and also because there was a panchasheel agreement, visit of Chinese leader to India  or  "chini hindi bhai bahi"  etc.,

It was  ignorance of Nehu. Finally after all the damage ,psychological as well as territorial was done,  Nehru declared in the parliament , that he was wrong about Chinese intentions and that he was like many of the contrymen had been dreaming!!! .

In a modern world, there is neither a permanant friend or foe. The nulcear bomb deliverablity or a such a capacity for IRAN is not good for our country at least.

It is not correct to think that  Iranians would not attack Israeli people or embassies in India. They may or may not be  "non-state actors" directly supported by Govt.of Iran itself but they may have been supported by Govt.elements. In Georgia and India the same type of  "stocker" bomb incident took place  almost at the same time and by evening bomb explosions took place in Thailand.

So, it means an additional new dimension of terror.

The author makes several mentions of Islamists, but it is strange that in an article titled "New Face of Terror", there is no mention of Hindutva terror. Being an army man, he should know of Col. Purohit and his army buddies, most of them retired as I remember it. With the recent arrests of persons with RSS connections for terrorist attacks in Ajmer,  Hyderabad, Malegaon and on the Samjhauta Express, this is in fact the new face of terrorism. It is more deadly for us than either Israeli or Irani terrorism.

EVR Naiker,

Even before our investigation agencies disclose the real terrorists, this great Lt. Gen(Rtd) has found the terrorist in a Muslim house. Hence all Indian Muslims must be massacred and taught a fitting lesson.

I read this article a third time to see if I had missed something. How did you arrive at this conclusion? You seem to be smoking something you shouldn't.

>> "Hence all Indian Muslims must be massacred and taught a fitting lesson. " - EVR Naiker

Absolutely stupid comment!! Beats most of the lousy comments even by the abysmal sickular standards.

No one has problems with Muslims. But, people have the right to demand and expect severe actions against the Islamist terrorists and their overground apologists. Jokers like you must be heli-dropped into the Arabian Sea. I am sure you will enjoy having tea with Osama ji down there.

There is no doubt about the facts about terrorism that the General has brought forth in the  article.Going by the timing of the incident the attack cannot just be blamed on a particular nation or its non state actor the Hezabollah just because the victim nation claims so.In the current geopolitics all efforts are on to focus on Iran as a rogue state and Israel seems to spare no effort in doing so.We need to focus on the bilateral relationships and see if the possibility does exist of a state like Iran indulging in such acts in India.

Further, the NCTC act seems to have become a cropper as it has failed to consult the affected states. Going by chiddus past record this one also may carry hidden interest.There is enough resources available in the states to have a strong counter terrorism organisation and what is really lacking is the political will and vision.

g sondur 

Well said Lt. Gen Prakash. You are the right person to become Lt. Gen in India. With this kind of Generals, our country has a very bright future. Definitely we have to appreciate this Lt. Gen(Rtd).

Even before our investigation agencies disclose the real terrorists, this great Lt. Gen(Rtd) has found the terrorist in a Muslim house. Hence all Indian Muslims must be massacred and taught a fitting lesson. I am pretty sure this Gen(Rtd) is a perfect replacement for Modi in case he becomes PM of our great Nation.

He might be working as Lt. General in Hindutva terror outfit(RSS).

D-8 & 2

Meghnad Desai on Terror fight by India after Car Bombing :

"Soft states canot be superpowers

We don’t know who did it. When will we find out? Have we got to the bottom of many other atrocities? German Bakery in Pune?--Samjhauta Express is about to be resolved but even so, we await concrete convictions. What is the clean up rate on atrocities even if India is too coy to hang anybody for the terrorism offence? { Death }awarded as a sentence and then not implement it for some elusive sensitivity about vote banks is just pathetic.
UP elections, the Batla House issue is reopened firstly by a general secretary of the Congress party and then by a Cabinet minister. But what is said in Azamgarh cannot be unsaid outside and howsoever many votes it may garner for the Congress, it undermines India’s image as being serious about fighting terrorism. Taking the name of the Congress president to lend credence to the attack on Delhi Police for its effort in Batla House -- '

www.indianexpress.com/news/soft-states-canot-be-superpowers/913828/0

Indian effort to fight Terror imposed upon us across the Borders is undermined not only by the HR groups ,Professors of jamia Islamia Teachers etc but even by the Delhi Darbar for the sake of Vote Banks .

Why these groups like Shabnam appa ,Teesta and host of others defend the Terrorists trained ,armed and finaced by the Pak ISI combine to disintegrate India ?? And the supporters of Naxals like Arunaditi Roy including persons who talk of give freedom to Kashmiris .

We talk of Fai whose favours many Indians have enjoyed of funds from ISI but what about our own Indian Fai's roaming as Professors,Liberals,HRwalas,Candle walas and Politiicans who in search of Votes or ( some may be )for funds from Middle east will write off the most henious crimes again their own Mother land and give clean chits to the Islamists ?

They are simply selling their own Madre Wattan India either for Money or for Votes or for both !

Irreverent,

>> The political establishment is hand-cuffed to act against the Mullah criminals. The human rights activists and the muslims of the country will pounce at the mere arest of a terrorist.

Are all hate pracharaks paranoid?

I doubt if the objective of those scoundrels was to kill. Their objective was to drive India's foreign relations into a wedge between Iran and Israel. They seem to have succeeded. When, the Delhi police made teh fiasco of defining the 'sticky bomb', the country's (un)readiness and (in)capability to handle terrorism was exposed in stark nakedness. Minority appeasement has made it worse.

Such attacks will only become more frequent and more vicious. The political establishment is hand-cuffed to act against the Mullah criminals. The human rights activists and the muslims of the country will pounce at the mere arest of a terrorist. Yesterday itself, one of them was defending the illegal Bangladesh immigrants. One has to spend some time in Murshidabad, Malda (Bengal) or Assam to see the gross radicalisation of the populace. Kerala is even worse, with donations for "peaceful jehad" being sought openly.

Did Indian security agencies have any cameras (hidden or otherwise) in the vicinity and , if so, have they got any useful information about the case ?

If the past performance of security agencies is any indication - then NO. Because otherwise, by now, some police offical would have been shouting from the rooftops (translated : being live on 24x7 channels) that they have solved the case. QED.

Is this an analysis of a terror incident? Or crime profiling of a terrorist incident? Or what?
Nothing.

Let me write what a common man like me can guess or “profile” the incident. This is called “criminal profiling” which is a method followed by professionals in foreign countries. We do not have specialists outside IB and RAW in our society here. We do not have any University courses either.

This incident tells us that at least Israeli embassy cars must be followed by another vehicle.
It also means that wherever there are embassy buildings there must be street cameras and there may be hidden cameras.

Motorcycle riders can carry a “sticker bomb” and it is not a big rocket science and that is the reason you cannot stop them .

But this also exposes their weakness that they could not plant a bomb while the car was in parking. This means that security at Israeli embassy must have been very tight and the level of anti-Israel terrorists was not high or that they shy away from high security targets.

They have implemented this same type of bomb in Georgia which means the plans to carry out these terrorist activities (to bomb ) was centralized, with sleeper units in India being activated. Which also means that whenever they want, they can activate these sleeping units in India and can cause serious destruction?

A cursory look at this may reveal that the motorcycle born terrorists were most probably locals and 99% Muslims of Shia sections, aged below 50 years, may be youth,99% male persons, and 99% with local number plates and highly used motorcycle to avoid attention and wearing a full faced helmets to avoid detection if there were hidden cameras ( I do not think our IB or RAW is that much intelligent so as to keep hidden cameras in front of Israeli embassy).

These terroritst must have been mercenaries, with vague ideological basis. It should not be very difficult for IB people to spot them or “locate” them again. If there were cameras and could be identified ,it is better kept as secret until entire sleeping module is unearthed.

But in any case,since they must have been waiting for a long time for the car to come from embassy , in the nearby area, someone must have seen their faces.
The important point however , is to know who is this central authority to organize this terror in Georgia and India almost in the same manner ?
Is it IRAN or not and that is most important. Once this is resolved half of the battle is won.

SRI:  According to a Gujarati New Paper (Divyabhaskar), that was one of the charges investigated by the SIT.  According to the paper, SIT investigated phone record of Mr. Jafri, Mr. Modi and Mr. Pande (a police officer, Mr. Jaffri had supposed to have called).  SIT concluded there was no call from Mr. Jaffri to Mr. Modi or Mr. Pande.

are there any telephone records of the call that Ehsan Jafri made to the CM or his office? I am not aware of this fact

are there any telephone records of the call that Ehsan Jafri made to the CM or his office? I am not aware of this fact

SRI:  According to a Gujarati New Paper (Divyabhaskar), that was one of the charges investigated by the SIT.  According to the paper, SIT investigated phone record of Mr. Jafri, Mr. Modi and Mr. Pande (a police officer, Mr. Jaffri had supposed to have called).  SIT concluded there was no call from Mr. Jaffri to Mr. Modi or Mr. Pande.

Is this an analysis of a terror incident? Or crime profiling of a terrorist incident? Or what?
Nothing.

Let me write what a common man like me can guess or “profile” the incident. This is called “criminal profiling” which is a method followed by professionals in foreign countries. We do not have specialists outside IB and RAW in our society here. We do not have any University courses either.

This incident tells us that at least Israeli embassy cars must be followed by another vehicle.
It also means that wherever there are embassy buildings there must be street cameras and there may be hidden cameras.

Motorcycle riders can carry a “sticker bomb” and it is not a big rocket science and that is the reason you cannot stop them .

But this also exposes their weakness that they could not plant a bomb while the car was in parking. This means that security at Israeli embassy must have been very tight and the level of anti-Israel terrorists was not high or that they shy away from high security targets.

They have implemented this same type of bomb in Georgia which means the plans to carry out these terrorist activities (to bomb ) was centralized, with sleeper units in India being activated. Which also means that whenever they want, they can activate these sleeping units in India and can cause serious destruction?

A cursory look at this may reveal that the motorcycle born terrorists were most probably locals and 99% Muslims of Shia sections, aged below 50 years, may be youth,99% male persons, and 99% with local number plates and highly used motorcycle to avoid attention and wearing a full faced helmets to avoid detection if there were hidden cameras ( I do not think our IB or RAW is that much intelligent so as to keep hidden cameras in front of Israeli embassy).

These terroritst must have been mercenaries, with vague ideological basis. It should not be very difficult for IB people to spot them or “locate” them again. If there were cameras and could be identified ,it is better kept as secret until entire sleeping module is unearthed.

But in any case,since they must have been waiting for a long time for the car to come from embassy , in the nearby area, someone must have seen their faces.
The important point however , is to know who is this central authority to organize this terror in Georgia and India almost in the same manner ?
Is it IRAN or not and that is most important. Once this is resolved half of the battle is won.

Did Indian security agencies have any cameras (hidden or otherwise) in the vicinity and , if so, have they got any useful information about the case ?

If the past performance of security agencies is any indication - then NO. Because otherwise, by now, some police offical would have been shouting from the rooftops (translated : being live on 24x7 channels) that they have solved the case. QED.

I doubt if the objective of those scoundrels was to kill. Their objective was to drive India's foreign relations into a wedge between Iran and Israel. They seem to have succeeded. When, the Delhi police made teh fiasco of defining the 'sticky bomb', the country's (un)readiness and (in)capability to handle terrorism was exposed in stark nakedness. Minority appeasement has made it worse.

Such attacks will only become more frequent and more vicious. The political establishment is hand-cuffed to act against the Mullah criminals. The human rights activists and the muslims of the country will pounce at the mere arest of a terrorist. Yesterday itself, one of them was defending the illegal Bangladesh immigrants. One has to spend some time in Murshidabad, Malda (Bengal) or Assam to see the gross radicalisation of the populace. Kerala is even worse, with donations for "peaceful jehad" being sought openly.

Irreverent,

>> The political establishment is hand-cuffed to act against the Mullah criminals. The human rights activists and the muslims of the country will pounce at the mere arest of a terrorist.

Are all hate pracharaks paranoid?

D-8 & 2

Meghnad Desai on Terror fight by India after Car Bombing :

"Soft states canot be superpowers

We don’t know who did it. When will we find out? Have we got to the bottom of many other atrocities? German Bakery in Pune?--Samjhauta Express is about to be resolved but even so, we await concrete convictions. What is the clean up rate on atrocities even if India is too coy to hang anybody for the terrorism offence? { Death }awarded as a sentence and then not implement it for some elusive sensitivity about vote banks is just pathetic.
UP elections, the Batla House issue is reopened firstly by a general secretary of the Congress party and then by a Cabinet minister. But what is said in Azamgarh cannot be unsaid outside and howsoever many votes it may garner for the Congress, it undermines India’s image as being serious about fighting terrorism. Taking the name of the Congress president to lend credence to the attack on Delhi Police for its effort in Batla House -- '

www.indianexpress.com/news/soft-states-canot-be-superpowers/913828/0

Indian effort to fight Terror imposed upon us across the Borders is undermined not only by the HR groups ,Professors of jamia Islamia Teachers etc but even by the Delhi Darbar for the sake of Vote Banks .

Why these groups like Shabnam appa ,Teesta and host of others defend the Terrorists trained ,armed and finaced by the Pak ISI combine to disintegrate India ?? And the supporters of Naxals like Arunaditi Roy including persons who talk of give freedom to Kashmiris .

We talk of Fai whose favours many Indians have enjoyed of funds from ISI but what about our own Indian Fai's roaming as Professors,Liberals,HRwalas,Candle walas and Politiicans who in search of Votes or ( some may be )for funds from Middle east will write off the most henious crimes again their own Mother land and give clean chits to the Islamists ?

They are simply selling their own Madre Wattan India either for Money or for Votes or for both !

Well said Lt. Gen Prakash. You are the right person to become Lt. Gen in India. With this kind of Generals, our country has a very bright future. Definitely we have to appreciate this Lt. Gen(Rtd).

Even before our investigation agencies disclose the real terrorists, this great Lt. Gen(Rtd) has found the terrorist in a Muslim house. Hence all Indian Muslims must be massacred and taught a fitting lesson. I am pretty sure this Gen(Rtd) is a perfect replacement for Modi in case he becomes PM of our great Nation.

He might be working as Lt. General in Hindutva terror outfit(RSS).

There is no doubt about the facts about terrorism that the General has brought forth in the  article.Going by the timing of the incident the attack cannot just be blamed on a particular nation or its non state actor the Hezabollah just because the victim nation claims so.In the current geopolitics all efforts are on to focus on Iran as a rogue state and Israel seems to spare no effort in doing so.We need to focus on the bilateral relationships and see if the possibility does exist of a state like Iran indulging in such acts in India.

Further, the NCTC act seems to have become a cropper as it has failed to consult the affected states. Going by chiddus past record this one also may carry hidden interest.There is enough resources available in the states to have a strong counter terrorism organisation and what is really lacking is the political will and vision.

g sondur 

>> "Hence all Indian Muslims must be massacred and taught a fitting lesson. " - EVR Naiker

Absolutely stupid comment!! Beats most of the lousy comments even by the abysmal sickular standards.

No one has problems with Muslims. But, people have the right to demand and expect severe actions against the Islamist terrorists and their overground apologists. Jokers like you must be heli-dropped into the Arabian Sea. I am sure you will enjoy having tea with Osama ji down there.

EVR Naiker,

Even before our investigation agencies disclose the real terrorists, this great Lt. Gen(Rtd) has found the terrorist in a Muslim house. Hence all Indian Muslims must be massacred and taught a fitting lesson.

I read this article a third time to see if I had missed something. How did you arrive at this conclusion? You seem to be smoking something you shouldn't.

The author makes several mentions of Islamists, but it is strange that in an article titled "New Face of Terror", there is no mention of Hindutva terror. Being an army man, he should know of Col. Purohit and his army buddies, most of them retired as I remember it. With the recent arrests of persons with RSS connections for terrorist attacks in Ajmer,  Hyderabad, Malegaon and on the Samjhauta Express, this is in fact the new face of terrorism. It is more deadly for us than either Israeli or Irani terrorism.

If we think that IRAN is our friend and hence we should not suspect it in our own interest is sheer nonsense. It is like Nehru believing that China would not attack a poor country ( at the time) like ours and also because there was a panchasheel agreement, visit of Chinese leader to India  or  "chini hindi bhai bahi"  etc.,

It was  ignorance of Nehu. Finally after all the damage ,psychological as well as territorial was done,  Nehru declared in the parliament , that he was wrong about Chinese intentions and that he was like many of the contrymen had been dreaming!!! .

In a modern world, there is neither a permanant friend or foe. The nulcear bomb deliverablity or a such a capacity for IRAN is not good for our country at least.

It is not correct to think that  Iranians would not attack Israeli people or embassies in India. They may or may not be  "non-state actors" directly supported by Govt.of Iran itself but they may have been supported by Govt.elements. In Georgia and India the same type of  "stocker" bomb incident took place  almost at the same time and by evening bomb explosions took place in Thailand.

So, it means an additional new dimension of terror.

@@Anwaar
The “new face of terror “discussion is different here. The Hindutva terror which you wrote about was mostly a "reprisal terrorist" incidents.

If Subramanian swamy is to be believed, they were all cleverly organized by Congress Party. I would not be surprised a little bit if that were true, considering their engineered communal riots in Hyderabad and Aligarh and other places at various points of time. Once the Congress government along with their internal power struggles for chief minister ship was gone, communal riots disappeared!!! During the first part of NTR rule, the "experts" tried their hand but later on they could not succeed. And again Chandra babu naidu's rule they were totally absent.

In Batala encounter incident an inspector died in the firing and yet Muslim preachers, their sycophants and Congress party general secretary Digvijay Singh say that it was all fake. The inspector was awarded "Ashoka Chakra" posthumously for his bravery and sacrifice. And yet Digvijay again declared as recently as yesterday that he would stand by his claim that it was a fake encounter. UPA chairperson, Sonia ji reported broke down and wept after seeing the pictures of dead bodies of Muslim "terrorists" in the encounter. When the elections come, lies fly around.

This all shows that we cannot tackle terrorism. How Indiraand Rajiv ,Narasimha rao managed to finish terrorism in Punjab or Assam and MGR in Tamil Nadu is unbelievable to me. We are country of disorganized people.

We have entered a bad phase in Indian politics without a strong leader in any party.

 

Bowenpalle,

>> "The Hindutva terror which you wrote about was mostly a "reprisal terrorist" incidents."
 

That's what the Hindutva apologists want us to believe! Col. Purohit, Sadhvi Pragya and other Abhinav Bharatis (headed by Himani Savarkar) do not react to events. They are the true heirs of Savarkar, Golwalkar and Godse. Since they plant their bombs in such a way that innocent Muslims end up in jail and suspicion is diverted from the true culprits, it is possible that some other incidents blamed on IM's etc may be actually their work.

Anwaar mian,

[[They are the true heirs of Savarkar, Golwalkar and Godse.]]

Just like terrorist Muslims are true heirs of you know who?