I think every TV anchor and editorial writer feels that by the time of next loksabha elections Dr. Manmohan Singh will do something and win the elections handsdown. All TV anchors and editorial writers are living in some other world. There are some channels that have shown enormus growth during the present corrupt regime.

Have we not heard the story"ALI BABA" and Forty Thieves.Ali Baba is saint and is anaware obout his thives. 

MMS does nt give a damn for the country,,he just wants to enjoy the PM position..

My take..:The Emperor's New Clothes

http://ratiparker.blogspot.com/2012/06/emperors-new-clothes.html  

 Hitesh Brahmbhatt

>>Without specifically refuting the attacks on Madhu made by some commentators here, I would like to know what part of the article do they disagree with?<<

There were several repeated declarations by Anwaar and one by CJU calling Madhu Kishwar a rabble rouser but no analysis.

There were postings by Ramalingam, Identity lost, Virat, MarutiRam C accuse media & Madhu Kishwar of not going after Sonia/Rahul

All the commentators and editors while vouching for manmohan singh being honest are indirectly blaming Rahul and Sonia as corrupt and responsible for the mess.

Please read between the lines.

Then there are postings from Narayana Sthanam, Bob, ASM, Maruti Sharma, Ashish Gambhir and several from Kumar defending the difficulties that MMS faces running a Govt. etc.

But who would be the next in his shoes and what guarantees that he would be down, upright, and would possess the qualities of those prescribed.

I think we are caught between the devil and deep sea and our boat is no other than Dr.Manmohan Singh as rudder.

Ashish Gambhir expresses his displeasure over how MNS gets away with attacking Biharis in Munbai. These writers are not disagreeing with Madhu K, they are pointing at other dimensions.

There is a long exchange between Kumar and Irreverent Indian , Kumar trying to educate and almost pulling it off. Irreverent Indian actually says (posting # 108 )

The fact is that you don't care a hoot for the riot victims. If you did, your smear campaigns would have focused on Haji Bilals, Babu Bajrangi, Taufeeq Khan, Zulfi, Togadia and likes, instead of ranting about Narendra Modi. Those who live in Gujarat (and I do have many relatives there) would vouch that Modi did a commendable job in controlling the riots. When riots happen, it is not the common man who ventures out on the streets. It is the local goons and party cadres that start venting their one-upmanship. Gujarat riots were no just about Muslim massacre as your secular Congress would like you to believe. As many, if not more, Hindus were murdered and looted during those fateful days. Digvijay Singh may think that RSS did it. Most of you don't even know that more than 85% of RSS members are 65+ in age. It is ridiculous to imagine septuagenarians in Khaki-shorts running around on a killing spree. But, you would still buy that theory because you need that when you run out of arguments.

Here he raises some important points for those who would like to counter communal propaganda. But this moment of lucidity leaves him because he needs to worship someone who gives "good governance" namely Modi. 

No one disagreeing with Madhu or supporting MMS points to his statement on '84 riots. Did they not notice it or it was airbrushed out of their awareness ? I came to know of it only today.

In fact MMS would have been forgiven many things had there been some attempt at governance and accountability. Petrol price may not affect much of India. Food prices do. Look at the way railway minister was sacrificed. Look at the way agriculture is being ignored. (When Sharad Pawar wants to be relieved, why don't you relieve him?)

>> >> You are wierd.

Maybe I am, but your post doesn't make any sense.

>> Why are you equating me with Nandy or Congress?

I'm not. However, given that you quoted Nandy, and didn't explicitly disagree, I assumed you concurred. If you didn't, fine. What's the point of putting his views then?

>> Clearly when the mind closes irony is never visible. Everything is black and white.

Again you are making no sense to me.

>> About Kalam's candidature, you may ask yourself why it was opposed by Capt.Lakshmi Sehgal

Don't know. Don't care. Irrelevant.

>> who stood against him and she being the sister in law of Kalam's teacher, Vikram Sarabhai, the father of India's space science.

What a stupid argument. Menaka Gandhi was Rajiv's sis in law and stood against him. Should I look up every relative of Kalam of every teacher/mentor he had, and see what their views about Kalam were, or if they ever opposed him? What kind of distilled idiot makes arguments like these, and how is it related to my point about Kalam's elevation as president being similar to MMS appointment as PM, in Nandy's scheme of things?

>> As for BJP or Congress saying sorry, neither of them understands the meaning of remorse.

Then why are you bringing Nandy's point in the discussion.

>> I am pinning my hope against hope on a third front.

Again irrelevant. And if you think they are better, well! A certain Mr. Mani, rioters of Nandigram and a bunch of other criminals might disagree with you.

 Sorry, it was I who missed the irony

 Whatsinaname

You are wierd. Why are you equating me with Nandy or Congress? Clearly when the mind closes irony is never visible. Everything is black and white. 

About Kalam's candidature, you may ask yourself why it was opposed by Capt.Lakshmi Sehgal who stood against him and she being the sister in law of Kalam's teacher, Vikram Sarabhai, the father of India's space science. 

As for BJP or Congress saying sorry, neither of them understands the meaning of remorse. As it is our criminal justice system has not caught up with the brains behind Delhi 1984.Many of them are already dead. 

Yes, if congress was seriously remorseful it would have gone after the criminals of '84 instead of having them as ministers and dropping their candidatures only if shoes are hurled. 

Congress and BJP are mirrors of each other and hopefully both will be defeated in 2014. I am pinning my hope against hope on a third front. It may not achieve much, but will bring about some churning. Clearly regional parties will play a big role and both in AP and TN atleast corruption is a big issue, so the existing parties all identified as corrupt ..interesting! Let us see how Nitish or Akhilesh fare in the next two years.

>> And he is the symbol that Congress was sorry for the pogrom according to Asish Nandy! Makes sense

So according to sickulars, Congress is making us suffer an ineffective and incompetent PM, since it was riddled with guilt? Shouldn't it have given us an honest, effective PM instead, and mitigated its guilt by actually going after the criminals of 84?

And will Nandy or you extend the same logic to BJP; that making Kalam the president was its way of saying sorry for Gujarat? And it did so within two years, as against 20 years that Congress took.

 Nearly 2 years old and yet on dot !

He was defeated in the predominantly middle-class South Delhi constituency because people in general and Sikhs in particular were enraged when Manmohan Singh denied the role of the Congress in the 1984 anti Sikh carnage and instead attributed the 1984 massacre to the RSS. The RSS may well be guilty of many other communal riots but the " credit" for the 1984 massacre goes entirely to Congress politicians, including Rajiv Gandhi who even justified the killings saying: "when a big tree falls, the earth is bound to shake." The Congress Party also ensured that those who masterminded and executed the 1984 pogrom did not get punished.

He said that ! And he is the symbol that Congress was sorry for the pogrom according to Asish Nandy! Makes sense.

Madhu Kishwar. your voice . Loud and Clear and Humane is sorely missing with Manushi folding up. You who have educated a generation of us on the meaning of Gandhi and the nature of communalism. Please write more in the mainstream media. 

Ah, is that so? 

You see, MMS will just redefine "honesty" and "not corrupt" to include, well, genocide, abuse of power and corruption. Just like Rs 30 a day makes you rich. 

I can just hear him preen about his newly achieved honesty in his next speech. After he touches the feet of the holy trinity of course, Rahul-Sonia-Kursi. Such humility, such greatness!

I thought that there can be  only a rubber stamp President for India.But now undestand that we can have a rubber stamp PM too.

Without specifically refuting the attacks on Madhu made by some commentators here, I would like to know what part of the article do they disagree with?

Manmohan Singh may win the "least ugly" contest among corrupt politicians but that is not a very high bar given the company he keeps.

Congress is able to keep the communal forces at bay but I would rather see a genuine centrist alternative to Congress emerge. I hope communists can enable the emergence of such "Third Front".

 High time we all compell the govt for mid term poll and save the country by reversing all the wrong decison taken by MMS WHICH ARE NOT IN OUR NATIONAL INTREST.

JOIN THE CAMPAIGN -- ALL 121 Cr PEOPLE

what is the honest in MS? He is has used a corrupt means of being elected. he is elected member of Rajya Sabha from Assam. Does he belong to Assam? No...so why is he using that quota to become RS member. That makes him elligble for PM. So his source of power is corruption. He is sitting on pile of corruption and he as the PM cannot say he does not know? if he does not know then he is in incompetent too ? a worst combination!! If he says he knows then he is also guilty of ommission if not commission  

This is very similar to the practice we have in India - referring to somebody who is upto all nonsense – and defending him as a 'basically good person but blah blah'. We never pause to even think how can a fundamentally good person be upto all such treacherous activities in the first place. Bottomline is - there are no 'basically' good people. There are only good people. And bad people - like the numerous politicians and bureaucrats we have. And in our case, only the latter seem to thrive. Solely because we as a nation are collectively indifferent, shameless and very short on memory. Time and again, day in and day out - we only wake upto, live through and go to sleep on scandals upon scandals. People we look upto - in political office, judiciary and administration, educated/uneducated etc. all are miserable crooks. Organizations that we look upto - government, spiritual, social, public, private etc., all are a mockery. We are convinced things can never improve. The only consistent thing in our nation is being traitorous or untrustworthy. So MS - by virtue of being one of us - will also only be the same. It is our foolishness to expect anything different. Of course, he does it with grace. Which is because of his education and intellect. Most others would do it crudely. In recent times, the only public figure who has given us some hope is our beloved former president Dr. Abdul Kalam, who was unceremoniously bumped off by the same MS and his boss, only to foist yet another joke of a character upon us. So what to with such a 100% dysfunctional system. Maybe it is about time the media started to do things differently - instead of racing to expose scam after scam, maybe they should try unearthing honorable deeds and project them. This kind of positive reinforcement can do wonders. For most of us - armchair critics – who do not think twice before giving out an opinion just because we have functional vocal chords, this probably can soothe our helplessness and prod us to wake up and do something.

~More than fifty years ago, a young elegant man stood up in the Lok Sabha and started speaking, better to say roaring. He was exposing out the first scam in the parliamentary democracy of India, though he belong to the Treasury bench. His father in law, the then Prime Minister of India Jawaharlal Nehru was hearing the thundering words. Nothing prevented Feroze Gandhi from exposing corruptions.

He started: “A mutiny in my mind has compelled me to raise this debate. When things of such magnitude, as I shall describe to you later, occur, silence became a crime…..”   ~

Read `FEROZE GANDHI : THE FORGOTTEN GANDHI OF INDIA` by
J GOPIKRISHNAN ,the journalist who (1 st ) unearthed the 2G scam
at http://jgopikrishnan.blogspot.com/2009/03/feroze-gandhi-forgotten-gandhi-of-india.html

Honorable Prime minister ManMohan Singh, Sonaji & similliars have to learn a lot.....

>"She would climb any bandwagon that brings her some attention.">

Let her do that. I would want it to happen quickly before this Queen of India gets escaped from this scam taking shelter of  MMS's image of honesty and integrity. Let Madhu get more attention but i am sure that real facts will come out only if sonia is questioned. I do not agree if any body says that MMS has overseen this scam with out sonia's advise. As long as media tries to keep aloof sonia from this scam, nothing will happen and no progress is expected in this case

A MAN IS ALSO KNOWN BY THE COMPANY HE KEEPS...

SO GOES THE OLD ADAGE...

THAT SUMMARIZES DR. SINGH....

USA AND OTHER COUNTRIES THINKE THAT TALIBAN AND AL- KAEDA ARE MORE DANGEROUS THAN  LeT BUT IF WIKILEAKS ARE  TO BE BELIEVED ;HINDU TERRORIST' ARE MORE DANGEROUS'   WE D0N'T KNOW WHICH RELEGION RAHUL GANDHI BELONGS TO,AND HE HAS HIS RIGHT TO HOLD ANY VIEW .  WHAT PEOPLE WOULD WANT TO KNOW WHY RAHUL GANDHI FELT IT NECESSARY T0 MAKE THIS STATEMENT TO AMERICAN AMBASSADOR DURING A PARTY .DOES IT MEAN THAT DRONES SHOULD BE USED AGAINST SUCH HINDUS WHOM RAHUL GANDHI SEES AS TERRORISTS? 

Irreverent Indian,

>> would love that role for the benefit of being called 'secular' and enjoying the perks of 72 virgins.

Seems some people have to bring in religion in a political conversation every time they lose an argument!

"Please don't ask Kumar any specifics. He will start of with 'world over blah blah..."!"

Good advice. I hope everyone follows it.

 "My daughter spent a summer vacation interning with Manushi and adores Madhu." - Anwaar

So sad! Daughter of such a virtuous father going down the wrong path!! Do you need any help to get her to share stage with Arundhati Roy?

>>So why dont you enlighten about how Madhu got all the facts straight but her conclusion wrong? Please let us know.

Please don't ask Kumar any specifics. He will start of with 'world over blah blah..."!

 Kumar:

"One can get the 'facts' right, but get the overall assessment/conclusion wrong (or a conclusion that is too premature and inadequate)."

So why dont you enlighten about how Madhu got all the facts straight but her conclusion wrong? Please let us know. 

 Rajdeep Sardesai now climbs the bandwagon to get some attention

 http://ibnlive.in.com/blogs/rajdeepsardesai/1/62128/rajdeep-sardesais-open-letter-to-pm-on-scams.html?from=tn

A few excerpts

"A bank manager may well be of 'impeccable' personal integrity at home, but if he allows his clerks to loot the bank, then he clearly is failing in his primary responsibility at the workplace. Sadly, that's exactly what seems to have happened in the UPA cabinet, and your continual hand-wringing is now becoming a sign of impotence."

And this
"Sonia Gandhi, claims to her parliamentary party that the Congress has 'acted' against corruption. Can the notion of 'action' be defined please? Forcing a minister to resign is not action, prosecuting him would be. Handing over a case to the CBI is not action, ensuring that the investigation is taken to its logical conclusion would be."

And this
"Sonia Gandhi, claims to her parliamentary party that the Congress has 'acted' against corruption. Can the notion of 'action' be defined please? Forcing a minister to resign is not action, prosecuting him would be. Handing over a case to the CBI is not action, ensuring that the investigation is taken to its logical conclusion would be."

I guess the bandwagon now needs to be converted to a bandtrain. People from unexpected quarters are joining in. I was very surprised with Pratap Mehta. I am even more surprised with Sardesai. Too succus have now become hardcore Sanghis.

>> One can get the 'facts' right, but get the overall assessment/conclusion wrong

So is the assessment wrong? If so, all of it, or some part, and why?

>> Madhu picks the flavor of the day

Which is very welcome if the parivar is at the receiving end. But how dare she criticize a secular leader. She should learn from Rahul. Hindutva is the only thing anyone should write about. Nothing else is important.

Bonita,

>> I thought this was a discussion on an article by Madhu Kishwar and not Arundhati Roy.

Arundhati joins unpopular causes. Madhu picks the flavor of the day. (I know I am being unfair to Madhu. I have often praised her in the past. My daughter spent a summer vacation interning with Manushi and adores Madhu. I hope she is not reading what her Dad has been writing).

>"She would climb any bandwagon that brings her some attention.">

I thought this was a discussion on an article by Madhu Kishwar and not Arundhati Roy.

>"Let's not insult one another by telling a story that the Pakistan Army was not involved. They're either unwilling to take action, or incapable, or both; any way you look at it, they're involved.">

This is a former Foreign Secretary about discussing 26/11 taken from Wikileaks.

Replace "Pakistan Army" with "Manmohan Singh" and you have the 2G scam down to a T

 "You fill the bill quite well!" - Anwaar

I would love that role for the benefit of being called 'secular' and enjoying the perks of 72 virgins. But, unfortunately, I must admit that I did not have the benefit of Madarassa education. 

 "That's the usual defense of Fox TV's smear artists!" - Anwaar

Hopefully, Diggy Raja or some insane Mullah will descend on this forum and say something that makes you feel blissful. Since people like them have spread themselves too thin in their effort to torment us simpletons all over the planet, you need to wait till their evil gaze falls on this forum. Till then, you have to fight this battle alone.

>> But one has to decide between cacophony and an accountable parliamentary debate.

CAG report is cacophony?

>> So what? Has she said something that is factually wrong?

One can get the 'facts' right, but get the overall assessment/conclusion wrong (or a conclusion that is too premature and inadequate).

 "But one has to decide between cacophony and an accountable parliamentary debate. " - Kumar

Are you a human being or an old gramophone record?

One can get the 'facts' right, but get the overall assessment/conclusion wrong (or a conclusion that is too premature and inadequate).

>> Why stay with that? keep demanding the PM comes clean and answer a few questions. It is more than two months since the CAG report came out. It is about time we get some straight forward answers.

But one has to decide between cacophony and an accountable parliamentary debate. If all one wants is TV debates and want to revel on sound bytes and rhetoric, there are spokespersons etc to attend those.

"She would climb any bandwagon that brings her some attention."

The hypocrisy and irony perhaps escapes the persistent peddler of untruths [Mr Moderator: this is Parliamentary]. The above applies to somebody else far more, the one who specialises in ranting on anything that gets her international coverage. Madhu Kishwar picks causes that she knows would get her bracketed with those the government wants to label and penalise severely. My respect for the lady has gone up.

 "She would climb any bandwagon that brings her some attention."

So what? Has she said something that is factually wrong?

>>  "keep demanding the PM comes clean and answer a few questions."

He should.

 " I too agree with that. Let us stay with that for the time being."

Why stay with that? keep demanding the PM comes clean and answer a few questions. It is more than two months since the CAG report came out. It is about time we get some straight forward answers.

Failure to do so will mean either he has utter contempt for Indian people or he has no credible answers to give or both. In which case, he has no business continuing in office.

Ganesan,

>> we have evidence only to go after Singh.

Yesterday you supported Pratap Bhanu Mehta's argument that the Prime Minister's worst failing was that he had not come clean. I too agree with that. Let us stay with that for the time being.

>> That is why Madhu Kishwar is targetting Singh.

She would climb any bandwagon that brings her some attention.
 

 "clean PM but do you have guts to write an article on the visble significant of role of sonia in the 2 G scam? "

That is because there is no evidence to show the role of Sonia in the 2G scam. We can speculate and evidence may turn up in future but as of now, Sonia's role is mere speculation.

That is not the case with Singh. We have the written documents as well as his press conference where he defended Raja. So at this point, we have evidence only to go after Singh but not after Sonia.

That is why Madhu Kishwar is targetting Singh.

Ghai,

>> Kotha Perumal took BRIBE of Rs 50 in 1993 .After 17 yrs Court Battles SC has confirmed an Imprisonment of One Year for Kotha Perumal.

Anyone who accepts a bribe of less than Rs 1000 must be punished. That is the law.
 

>> Does that mean that you are acknowledging the existence of "Islamic fundamentalism"?

Except for some of the fundamentalists/extremists themselves, no one will deny the existence.

The media has been projecting only MMS as STAMP Prime Minister of Mrs Soniaand week prime minister. Is not it? PM will not take decision without concurrence by Mrs Sonia. Are these the words media have been uttering for the last 6 yeras

Suddenly with 2G scam, Media started recognising the PM as a PM. The same media is presently now doing very shameless efforts to safeguard the original criminal and major shareholder of 2G scam  who is none other than Mrs Sonia, by trying to make the most repspected PM as SCAPE GOAT. Shameless Indian Media!

Attention! Madhu Purnima KIshwar!

We are seriously looking at the So called Top English Print Media and Electornic Media Owners who has now become a lobby and trying to protect Mrs Sonia, mjor share holder of the scam and divert the entire blame to PM and escape the remaning political and corporate criminals who ate 1.76 lakh crore rupees. Media is said as 4th esate in the democracy. Why the hell media is trying to kill the democratic values of this country?

Can you answer me Kishwar ? bloody any journalist will have guts to point out the clean PM but do you have guts to write an article on the visble significant of role of sonia in the 2 G scam? if you do not have the guts, then atleast stop diverting the issue.

Can you answer me Kishwar?

Kotha Perumal took BRIBE of Rs 50 in 1993 .After 17 yrs Court Battles SC has confirmed an Imprisonment of One Year for Kotha Perumal.

Kalmadi ,Raja and Scamesters in Adarsh Scam have not even Questioned till this date.
There are Two Laws in India one for the high and mighty and one for the Aam Admi !

"They are big People,I am sacred " Judge Rahupathy -Times of India.

MMS was duty bound to punish tarnished abd corrupt  people .But he shelterd them .

Pray, why does an interesting input by Madhu Kishwar have to get converted into a diatribe on fundamentalism? Kudos, ma'am, for your article; but given the circumstances of UPAII, isn't it the TINA factor?

 Response to Kumar (Post # 116)

"Look at http://www.sabrang.com/gujarat/statement/statement"

I had CLEARLY asked for comments by YOU on THIS FORUM. But, I will let that pass. Anyway, teh discussion is getting diverted from MMS to Modi.

"Every extremist has some 'other side' to show. "

True. If he happens to be in Israel or USA. His "other side" is kicked blue to hell. In India, that "other side" invents conspiracy theories that jokers like you buy for your ego-massage.

"Someone compiled some of his quotes "

Nice blog. I refuted some of the listed comments as out of context. Some others were indeed deplorable on the way they have been phrased. Having said that they are deplorable, I would still want to reserve my 'final' comments till I get to see the context and full text of speech. It's not difficult to twist selective parts of speeches to change the meaning. Our friend Anwaar does it everyday.

"Actually he uses/exploits Islamic fundamentalism to hit at all muslims"

Does that mean that you are acknowledging the existence of "Islamic fundamentalism"? Gee, most seculars go out of way to refute that.

What about Manmohan Singh's survival during no-confidence motion on nuclear bill? His party brazenly traded votes. Currency notes literally flew in the Parliament. Still he had no compunction to continue as PM. What integrity we were talking about?

One of the best articles I have ever read.  It is truth....only truth.

Salute to Ms. Madhu and Outlook.

>> Earlier, I asked you to provide links to your claims on condemnation of Godhra carnage, Debganga etc.

Look at http://www.sabrang.com/gujarat/statement/statement.htm . It has condemnation of the Godhra train burning as well.

>> what happened in Gujarat was not as one-sided as you would like to believe.

Every extremist has some 'other side' to show. That does not reduce the dangers of hindutva extremism (or of any extremism) one bit.

>> … your above-noted comment. If you claim so, there must be some YouTube etc. links for his "Hate" speeches or "Anti-Muslim" rhetorics

Not even the strongest supporter of Modi would deny the hindutva extremism of his persona and of the company he keeps/associated with. Someone compiled some of his quotes http://hindumuslimindia.blogspot.com/2006/09/mr-narendra-modi-in-his-own-words.html (not to talk of the hate speeches of others in support of his campaign).

>> his proclaimed disdain for Islamic fundamentalism.

Actually he uses/exploits Islamic fundamentalism to hit at all muslims, while he himself and his associates are just other side of the same coin.

 "...a ruling party/CM giving hate speeches, boasting about communal hate mongering ideology etc ...." - Kumar

When was that?? Earlier, I asked you to provide links to your claims on condemnation of Godhra carnage, Debganga etc. and you dodged that by making a sorry attempt at diverting the discussion. My response clearly hinted that what happened in Gujarat was not as one-sided as you would like to believe. You dodged this point too by saying that you were not the one who brought this up.

Let's come back to your above-noted comment. If you claim so, there must be some YouTube etc. links for his "Hate" speeches or "Anti-Muslim" rhetorics. If demanding a noose for terrorists and criminals falls under Anti-Muslim or Hindutva rhetoric, then the problem lies in your ears and brains. Neither Modi nor any of us "Sanghis" can cure that. At best, we can highlight that for you. He has a style of taking sharp jibes at his opponents. But, I have not come across anything in his speeches that can be branded "Anti-minority", except his proclaimed disdain for Islamic fundamentalism. 

When you make such blind allegations, you are only denigrating this forum to a roadside argument.

"Hindutva extremism is still alive and hence can re-enact such things all over again. "

Yes. Hindutva extremism is gaining foothold. Worse still, its notions are finding buyers even amongst the educated. There are enough empirical evidences of that. That is because the law and order is weak-kneed in front of the powerful and 'connected'. But, your condemnation for that cannot justify your back-handed support for corruption and mis-governance.

>> who (explicitly/ eloquently) raise Kashmiri pandit issues, Godhra carnage or the riots in Debganga, do not black-smear the ruling chief minister for eternity.

In otherwords, you want everyone to ignore the dangers of hindutva extremism and let it rise its head again at an opportune time.

>> The fact is that you don't care a hoot for the riot victims.

Hindutva extremism is still alive and hence can re-enact such things all over again. That remains an issue. Your estimation of how much I 'really' care about it is irrelevant.

>> If you did, your smear campaigns would have focused on Haji Bilals, Babu Bajrangi, Taufeeq Khan, Zulfi, Togadia and likes, instead of ranting about Narendra Modi.

Firstly, I was not the one who brought up the name of Narendra Modi. Someone wanted him to be PM and I showed him the objections. Secondly, a ruling party/CM giving hate speeches, boasting about communal hate mongering ideology etc is more serious than some extremist fringe outfit doing it, and naturally demands attention.

>> In case of other riots, you don't give a shit if it doesn't concern the Muslims, or as in Kashmir's case, has the mute support from Indian Muslims.

I already explained, debate kicks off in this forum only if hindutva extremist elements are condemended.

>> A country that does not incentivize good governance or overlooks blatant misgovernance, cannot aspire to be the next superpower

A country aspiring to be super power should have a holistic definition of good governance and values which includes secular democracy, social upliftment/empowerment, justice, economic development, representation/participation from all sections of society etc.

 >>Excellent article on "Integrity" Singh.
 www.deeshaa.org/2010/12/12/we-need-a-paradigm-shift-regarding-dr-manmohan-singh/

Atanu has been consistent in his position since the last five years. In fact everything about the PM is manufactured propaganda. He is called the original reformer but as a bureaucrat he was consistently supportive of the exact socialist policies which brought the country to the 1990 crisis. But we are to give him credit for reforming the economy and ignore Narshima Rao! The very fact that our editors, intellectuals, TV anchors still repeat this mantra of 'integrity' even now shows they are just paid servants of the current ruling party.
 

Completely endorse your view.

Can he be truly Mr Clean after presiding over such scum?  He is the ultimate Mr Teflon though, because he now carries the lable of being a great liberaliser.  The truth is that much against his political leanings he had no choice to free things up, because our r foreign exchange reserves had fallen below a billion dollars during his stint as the RBI governor. 

 We Indians are so obsessed with the kinds of leaders that like to talk more and do less..... we are so fond of people who are more poetic and charismatic...... i was even surprised when many people liked lalu just because he was good at building stories......

Manmohan is ofcourse not one of those..... ofcourse he would have fared better if he had those oratory skills too....... 

Those who are not amidst the action can not evaluate the number of trade-offs one has to make at such positions....and in coalitions..... the fact that he is personally honest matters because one can be sure that he would certainly opt for the second best if situations do not allow the best ......

Forget 2G i was pissed by centre's mum when Biharis were ill treated by MNS in mumbai.... however are we not aware of the compulsions..... the reason why the center (MMS) was mum......

I believe that after his terms as PM..... if evaluated objectively...MMS would have contributed most to India's welfare...... provided noise-creation is not a parameter for earning marks in that evaluation......

Beware of Radiia saga, Corporate wars, Diggi's outrageous comments and sundry other distractions. (Diggi may be a Kamikaze). They are meant to distract public attention away from the core of 2G scam - the G-G team. Strategy of Congress may be to come out with a scam-a-day so as to dilute the mother-of-all-scams.

Pity the PM who will not be allowed to resign even if he wants. He is the FIREWALL.

BTW, Is Sonia losing the Most Powerful Woman title to Radiia ?

Therre are 2 reasons why everyone don't forget to mention that Mamohan is honest:

1) It is true.

2) They KNOW the following:

    a) This Loot is not him but Sonia and GANG behind these scams.

    b) Mammohan is powerless to stop them.

   c) This loot is limited as they do fear that if Mamohan Resigns, they will loose power.

I would argue that Manmohan to an extent is the BEST DEAL that people of India can expect as of now. Imagine Sonia or Rahul or any other Congress CHAMCHA as PM. Country will go down the drain as they will be totally unafraid.

 " I am sure everyone here condemns it. There is no disagreement there." - Kumar

You are trying to put up a smokescreen!! Those who (explicitly/ eloquently) raise Kashmiri pandit issues, Godhra carnage or the riots in Debganga, do not black-smear the ruling chief minister for eternity. In your attempt to show concerns for Gujarat riots, the implicit agenda is not only to black-smear one of the best CMs the country has seen, but also to lend a sorry support to your 'Secular' credentials. It exposes your frustration at the "secular" party being wiped off from Gujarat. Just like the pro-BJP diatribes on this forum is partly driven by BJP being out of power.

The fact is that you don't care a hoot for the riot victims. If you did, your smear campaigns would have focused on Haji Bilals, Babu Bajrangi, Taufeeq Khan, Zulfi, Togadia and likes, instead of ranting about Narendra Modi. Those who live in Gujarat (and I do have many relatives there) would vouch that Modi did a commendable job in controlling the riots. When riots happen, it is not the common man who ventures out on the streets. It is the local goons and party cadres that start venting their one-upmanship. Gujarat riots were no just about Muslim massacre as your secular Congress would like you to believe. As many, if not more, Hindus were murdered and looted during those fateful days. Digvijay Singh may think that RSS did it. Most of you don't even know that more than 85% of RSS members are 65+ in age. It is ridiculous to imagine septuagenarians in Khaki-shorts running around on a killing spree. But, you would still buy that theory because you need that when you run out of arguments.

As I said, there is fundamental difference between the way you condemn Gujarat riots vis-a-vis other incidents/ riots. In the first case, you haul up Modi just for the sake of it, not even acknowledging that the real perpetrators crossed all party lines. In case of other riots, you don't give a shit if it doesn't concern the Muslims, or as in Kashmir's case, has the mute support from Indian Muslims.

The bottomline remains that Gujarat has voted for Modi overwhelmingly multiple times. Probably they know something which rest of India doesn't.

Summary: Your blind hatred for Modi and unequivocal support for Manmohan is confounding. A country that does not incentivize good governance or overlooks blatant misgovernance, cannot aspire to be the next superpower. But, why am I saying this to you!!

>> There are no criteria for Prime Ministership except that the person is duly chosen by a majority of members of Parliament.

The same goes for CMs too, though some parties prefer that the high command makes this decision instead of elected representatives, and some people want CMs to be dismissed, even if they enjoy majority support.

>> Your simplistic analysis is that the whole country should become lilly white overnight.

No, it is not. That is your stupid analysis of his post.

Ganesan,

>>  Even if he is personally honest, that is not a sufficient criteria for a PM.

There are no criteria for Prime Ministership except that the person is duly chosen by a majority of members of Parliament. They may pick the strongest candidate or they may pick a compromise candidate, depending upon prevailing politics in the party or in the coalition of parties.

>> The subsequent five years has only confirmed what an empty suit and a crook he is.

Your simplistic analysis is that the whole country should become lilly white overnight. If not, the PM should resign immediately (that is, if he is a non-BJP PM/CM). Going by your simplistic analysis, we would have had 200 PMs by now. That’s like saying if everything is not absolutely perfect/pure/holy etc in a family, it means that the father is a crook. It does not work that way as reality is more complex than that. As long the father has and applies the right values, does whatever is best possible in the given circumstances of reality, he is still considered good/right/just.
 

>> When? Where on this forum

A debate happens when there is a disagreement. As for Godhra train burning, no one is saying here that it is right/justified etc. If there is anyone like that here, there would be a discussion on that as well. I am sure everyone here condemns it. There is no disagreement there.

>> My problem is with "selective condemnation" of events to suit one's political affiliation or political disdain

That is your (mis)interpretation of things. Give this a try: Condemn Godhra train burning, ill-treatment of Kashmir Pandits, islamist violence or even 1984 anti-sikh riots etc. No one will challenge you on the condemnation. Try condemnation on 2002 riots or violent elements of hindutva etc and some folks will pounce on you. So it is not about selective condemnation, but selective support to some kinds of extremism/violence.

We Indians love euphemisms; they provide a nice facade to the ugly reality that we prefer to keep out of sight. In the Indian political lexicon, "honesty" is not having "assets disproportional to known sources of income". Going by that definition, one cannot fault our Prime Minister.

When people describe the PM as a man of unimpeachable honesty and integrity, do they realise that, by implication, they are pointing fingers beyond him, at the "High Command"? The general consensus is, yes, there is corruption, but our PM is an honest man, he does his job of running the Government to the best of his ability, he does not make the political decisions, so do not blame him. What we tend to forget is that the PM is a politician, not a bureaucrat.

The last word on honesty should however go to Gandhi (the Mahatma, of course): "A 'No' uttered from the deepest conviction is better than a 'Yes' merely uttered to please, or worse, to avoid trouble"
 

>> He seems to be doing the best possible in the given circumstances

I repeat. Why not Diggy? He seems to be more determined about fighting Hindutva forces than Singh, who was a minister in PVN's govt when Babri fell. Plus, I'm sure he is honest, since Karkare chose only him to tell about the threat to his life from Hindutva forces.

Give Diggy a chance. He shall clean things up. As a bonus, he's had lot of cleaning practice recently.

 "Excellent article on "Integrity" Singh."

It has taken this long for the pundit class to question the basic premise that Singh is honest. We have been ahead of the pundit class by years. His "principles" were exposed the day he played politics in Bihar and Jharkhand in 2005. To me personally, the day Shibu Soren went underground and Singh did nothing about was the day I finally woke up to this man.

The subsequent five years has only confirmed what an empty suit and a crook he is.

The personal integrity never had much appeal to me to begin with. India has had two PM's who were personally honest-Charan Singh and VP Singh. And yet both ran corrupt governments and both did a lot to destroy the institutions of this country. Both the PMs were disasters of the first magnitude.

Nobody accused VP Singh of financial irregularity but it is difficult to find a politician more crooked than he was. It took a long time for the media to catch up with him and by that time, the damage was done. The same is the case with Singh. I think people are slowly waking up to this fact. Even if he is personally honest, that is not a sufficient criteria for a PM. You need a lot more than that. A cow never tells a lie, a donkey never steals but they are nothing more than cows and donkeys.

Executives require a lot more.

Excellent article on "Integrity" Singh.

www.deeshaa.org/2010/12/12/we-need-a-paradigm-shift-regarding-dr-manmohan-singh/

It is an assertion that MMS is honest, an assertion not borne out by facts. Widely known and accepted facts? Yes, the author of that article goes on at length to state facts that enormous sums have been stolen by people whom MMS directly controls. And yet the author, in contradiction to the facts that he or she presents, continues to write absolute nonsense by asserting a proposition that is contradicted by evidence. This is what is called “cognitive dissonance” in polite company and in honest company called stupidity.

>>>> do the seculars remain unaffected by Godhra, Kashmiri pandit plight, Debganga et al

>> All these have been condemned

By whom?

I recall that seculars were actually very gleeful after Godhra, saying the Kar Sevaks had it coming.

As for Kashmiri Pandits, I rarely hear a squeak from the seculars. The only time they mention them is to say that BJP is using them for political purposes. As I pointed out, the "Kashmir" page on countercurrents, a noted sicko website, contains nothing about them.

As for Deganga, I don't think any secular has said much about it at all. In fact, apart from some minor news items, there is hardly any coverage of it at all. Do a simple Google search, and you shall hardly find anything in our leading papers, or the politicians/seculars saying anything about it.

So, as usual, you are lying. Or let's just say, that you're bending the truth.

 "All these have been condemned, but you want to maintain that they have not, so as to justify the hindutva religious extremism/violence? " - Kumar

When? Where on this forum? Can you share a few links from Outlook where you or similar secular apologists like you have done so. Or, if you have done it on some other forums, I may not have seen them.

(as if that were a justification anyway)

I am not justifying any of that. Only extremist mongers can justify that. My problem is with "selective condemnation" of events to suit one's political affiliation or political disdain. Politics allows everyone that luxury of selective memory. In the same vein, that cannot be disallowed to us Sanghis.

"One should be able to condemn all extremist violence independently."

Agreed. Hope you remember that when Kashmiris start pelting stones and demand secession!! Don't practice "pretend secularism" by garbing that under human rights and other such nonsense.

>> do the seculars remain unaffected by Godhra, Kashmiri pandit plight, Debganga et al

All these have been condemned, but you want to maintain that they have not, so as to justify the hindutva religious extremism/violence? (as if that were a justification anyway) One should be able to condemn all extremist violence independently.

>> Social justice/empowerment: Fancy term ...

So all the things like justice, human rights, truth etc are just fancy terms?

>> Logic: My kids should pay the price for the stupidity of my grand-grand-parents committed during the dinosaur age

No. To identify/uplift the socially/educationally/economically backward sections, who for various reasons have not been allowed to come up in the past etc. This is a constitutionally/legally/legislatively approved position of the country. (you are free to have a different opinion though).

>> Adequate representation: What is this crap now?

That different sections of society should be adequately represented and participate in various fields of national/human endeavor.

>> A formidable vote-bank that forces many to ACT "Secular"

In other words, your assumption is that everyone in this country are either communal extremists or merely acting secular. Thats your problem.

"Constitutional values of secular democracy, social justice/empowerment, inclusive/participatory growth, adequate representation etc are the basic values of the constitution as well as basic human values." - Kumar Kumar

Secular democracy: Skull-cap democracy is a better term!! Why do the seculars remain unaffected by Godhra, Kashmiri pandit plight, Debganga et al? Gujarat riots were unfortunate response to secular silence on Godhra, in which scoundrels from ALL parties put their evil streaks to practice. Modi did a commendable job in controlling that in three days.

Social justice/empowerment: Fancy term for Mandal Raj!! Logic: My kids should pay the price for the stupidity of my grand-grand-parents committed during the dinosaur age. Sounds insane to me, but fetches you the votes.

Inclusive/participatory growth: Growth of what? A modern Oxford Dictionary phrase for "Garibi hataao". Neither could/ an achieve anything.

Adequate representation: What is this crap now? Another euphemism for reservation? 

"people feel tainted even by association" - Kumar Kumar

Wrong!! "People pretend tainted even by association." An entire army of skull-caps in this country feel that Madanis and Geelanis are the right choice for leadership. Noone can charge them for pick-pocketing or even secession!! A formidable vote-bank that forces many to ACT "Secular". So, get rid of your verbal mumble-jumble.

"He publicly boasts of his hate mongering" - Kumar Kumar

If hatred for anti-nationals and Pakistan sympathizers is "mongering", so be it. It is interesting that your conscience is not aroused by Godhra train burning, Debganga or ethnic cleansing in Kashmir. But, a mere mention of noose for Afzal Guru sends you into a tail-spin of secular diatribe. 

"Constitutional values of secular democracy..." - Kumar Kumar

The secular version of "constitutional values":

President - Pratibha Patil, a person whose political affiliations are well known. A person charged of corruption

PM - Manmohan Singh (I am dumbfounded!!)

Speaker - Meera Kumar, whose only credentials for the post (as hinted by MMS) was that she is a lady from a backward caste!!

CVC - Uncle Thomas!!

Election Commission - Chawla babu, a person whose political affiliations are well known.

>> wondering why everyone in the media in unison swears by the integrity and honesty of the PM.

He seems to be doing the best possible in the given circumstances (short of letting the opposition to take over the reigns of govt.) - people do understand that miracles are not possible (country cannot turn lilly white overnight) that one has to do the best possible in the given circumstances.

I am in (100%) agreement with what Ms.Madhu Kishwar has written in her article, I was also wondering why everyone in the media in unison swears by the integrity and honesty of the PM.

First and Foremost the PM has to be necessarily  in control of his ministers and should be held directly responsible for their actions.

Secondly Mr. PM and the Congress through their spokesmen have referred to their delay and tolerance to act against the tainted minister as "COALITION DHARMA", I would simply say it is a "COLLUSION DHARMA"

>> >> Assuming that you are given the choice, whom would you appoint in his place?

>> Narendra Modi-assuming the SC and SIT clear his name.

Constitutional values of secular democracy, social justice/empowerment, inclusive/participatory growth, adequate representation etc are the basic values of the constitution as well as basic human values. For this reason, many countries would not even give him a Visa - and dont forget the snub he gets in other states - people feel tainted even by association (except of course when the big business interests are brazenly supported). He publicly boasts of his hate mongering (so a supposed inability to prosecute by SC/SIT is just a legal technicality – the basic problem of ideology/principle remains). So all I can say is that it is a choice of very narrow/shallow considerations and devoid of major ethical considerations and basic human values/principles.
 

 "Assuming that you are given the choice, whom would you appoint in his place?"

Narendra Modi-assuming the SC and SIT clear his name.

 The article "Honestly Speaking" by MadhuPurnima is very thought provoking and touches all the contours of a true PM should be for India or for that matter for any country.

Unfortunately, in India I just do not know where Dr.Manmohan Singh can head for!?! and Fit in!?! There is hardly any room left for him to demonstrate of himself except through glib.  Otherwise, Dr.Singh could have been a different PM after being re-elected with a good majority.  He came back to the Seat with the same vein and mean of Congress coterie who have the history of each person talking his own way and yet culminating at the end as one with a slogan internal freedom and yet no action is possible because, the corrupted people in politics become much stronger by wielding more behind the scene evil threats to the party, (and become inseparable),  while the PM, became a show case for Congress as if they are the only heirs of Mahatma Gandhi and thus so the PM being  Dr.Manmohan Singh an honest and upright as Ratan Tata mentioned, and of course trying to show that we are not in Banana Republic.  

But I definitely agree to your point that Dr.Singh should have resigned without any comments on Congress (otherwise he may be handled in a different way to protect the party by Congress).  I see no scope for Dr.Singh as PM who can wield his power and put things in right perspective.  But who would be the next in his shoes and what guarantees that he would be down, upright, and would possess the qualities of those prescribed.

I think we are caught between the devil and deep sea and our boat is no other than Dr.Manmohan Singh as rudder.

Madhu you have said what I feel and after going through the other responses there are whole lot of us who could not agree more, I mean come on you see all the sleaze and corruption around you and you do not even give any sign of disgust with going on's. All this because The GANDHIS do not object to the sheninigans.So MMS will go down in history as an honest PM.What an acheivement.

Dear Madhu,

Its very simple - they (media) owe a lot to Congress in terms of favours. Big Favours.

Yes MMS dug his own grave by commenting on 84 riots. I voted against him from South Delhi Constituency.  (Was never going to vote for Congress anyways)

Let me give you a few examples on how a very very large segment of "serious" journalists/reporters/tv presenters soft pedal on congress, Sonia and Rahul.

1.  Every time there is a mention of riots, Modi is brought in for his crimes but usually no or very little mention of 84 riots.

2. Police is a major culprit in spreading riots.  A lot of noise on Gujarat Police and home minister but what about Mumbai riots and police/politician role no mention.

3. No mention of role of Delhi Police and masters in 84.

4. If my memory serves me right, I had read somewhere that MMS was part of the group dealing with either Hazratbal and Charar-e-Sharif cases or both.  What solution did our  "very strong" MMS give, remove the army cover and allow Terrorists to run after serving them tonnes of biryanis.

5. Any mention of terrorists/hostage crisis leads to Kandahar flight by Jaswant Singh. One must remember that once plane took off from Amritsar there was very little the Indian govt could do. But our press chaps will never say that. They will crucify Jaswant as if he had gone with Terrorists to some Hawaiian beach.  He had gone to an enemy territory to get civilians back.  Strange even BJP is unable to turn tables on this. 

6. There is harldly any mention of Hazratbal and Charar-e-Sharif by the media.

7. No tough questions for Sonia or Rahul baba.  Has anyone bothered to ask Sonia and Rahul on Rajiv's famous "earth must shake" comment.

8. Has ever any journalist told Congress's hopeless spokespersons (manish tiwari, jayanthi natarajan take the cake for being so irritating. Atleast Mani Shankar Aiyar has a good sense of humour) why they blame the system always when Congress has ruled India at the centre directly or indirectly (outside support) for over 50years out of 63yrs.

9. In Mahabharat, Bhishma scolds Vidur on hiding the information of Pandavs being alive after the news of their death due to Lakshagrah fire spread saying that no information of vital importance to the state should be hidden.  Here our MMS takes the cake.  He hid and did everything to turn blind eye to the loot.

10. What to say even Vinod Mehta of Outlook had defended the Sharman-Sheikh foreign policy blunder at a programme on NDTV (i hope i am right) on 100days of UPA2.

It is simple Madhu, its economics which makes them say the right things.  I am yet to hear any journalist question Congressmen back after the usual chat on MMS's integrity, honesty.

He might be Honest but low on integrity.

Honesty is doing the thing right but Integrity is doing the right thing.

Alas, congressmen and their supporters will never understand this basic difference.

Great Article.  I liked your views on Arundhati Roy on Times Now linking it to International Seminars.

dont forget to give a clear mandate to his party before expecting action . we as citizens are as much culpable as them. as if we didnt know that this is how india worked during all previous regimes. even during atalji , a man everyone would agree of utmost integrity, draw a list of wrong doers he took action against. the empowerment has to come from the people. modi , nitish and sheila dikshit have been empowered and emboldened by the mandate given to them. our PMs, both atalji and now MMS are yet to be given that space. and if then they dont act send them into political oblivion like lalu forever! until then, hope that our judiciary manages to clean some of the mess which i think the current dispensation is very much intent on doing under shri kapadia.

Anwaar: “She has just summed up your own smear campaign of the past five years!”
Kumaar: "Assuming that you are given the choice, whom would you appoint in his place?"
 

Typical examples of resorting to personal abuse when left with no credible argument to give!! So predictable!!

Khisiyani billies, both!!

Hi Madhu Thanks for highlighting the truth and congrts for the courage..

MMS is not only corrupt and puppet of 2G but also of Uncle SAM..We might come to know in future that he will have good bank balance in Swissbank.

As he is admire of FII,FDI ..i think he should import some courage and honesty from USA..for himself first and then for his cabinet college and congress party..

I have only two questions to the author, Outlook and respondents.

Seeing the Heading of article,

1.  Before this article, was Madu not speaking honestly. Was madu dishonest in all her pervious writings.

2. Should PM of INDIA be Honest and in what way? say he should reveal all converstaions he has with all including oppositions parties to public???? Which country likes to have a transparent PM or which company(including media companies) like to have honest CEOs????

People should know honesty is relative word.  Every body including author/outlook giving character certificate to PM blindly.

#40 - "Even though he keeps calling everyone a Sanghi,  ..."

Better be dubbed a Sanghi than Singhi

>> Assuming that you are given the choice, whom would you appoint in his place?

How about Diggy Raja? I think you shall support him, along with all the leading secular and intellectual Muslims, right?

Not to talk of right thinking, humanists (add all the other catch phrases you like to use here) crowd. He can't be worse than MMS now, can he?

wonderful article that hits it right on the nail. what use is so called personal integrity if the PM cannot control cabinet formation, cannot ensure that his cabinet colleagues give respect to his opinion on policy matters, looks the other way when the biggest scandal was going on and then agrees to take the same person as telecom minster in the 2009 ministry.  this is simply unpardonable no matter what the personal integrity is. he is the weakest primeminister that India has seen so far.

"He may have overlooked 2G goings on in order to achieve more crucial national security victories like Nuclear deal."

You mean an elusive nuclear deal at the cost of 1,75,000 crores loot ? That too without counting the cost of the nuclear deal. Overlooking not just 2G scam but CWG too. I won't credit the Adarsh scam to the PM's account - that goes to Congress a/c.

A nice insightful, probing and bold article !

 MMS has put his soul to do the bidding for sonia

how can he have the "Dard" for india

 "Assuming that you are given the choice, whom would you appoint in his place?" - Kumar

The options aren't aplenty, but not a null either. There are better options available in names like Narendra Modi, Pranab Mukherjee. Nitish Kumar, Arun Jaitley, Rahul Gandhi. We need leaders, not 'dealers'. Jaitley and Rahul may be raw for the post, but till now they have shown reasonable maturity to justify the risk.

>> The only role that opposition play is to criticize every decesion govt take.

It is probably worse than that. What we are seeing is that the accused parties are playing a drama in the name of JPC etc without facing parliament debate. They probably dont want the accusations go on record, so that it is will be easier to forget later on.

>> Integrity Singh .. has no business continuing in office anymore.

Assuming that you are given the choice, whom would you appoint in his place?

This article show one sided view/alignment of the author. The decesions taken by PM can not be seen as white or black. For ex... He may have overlooked 2G goings on in order to achieve more crucial national security victories like Nuclear deal.

What good option would he have had if Omar Abdula had resigned. The victory would have been separatisits.

He is required to pick his lieutinents from what is available. Mosty of us are corrupt or shallow beyond repair.

The only role that opposition play is to criticize every decesion govt take. They will forget 2G or anything else once they come to power.

Ganesan,

>> If Integrity Singh was overwhelmed, then he has no business continuing in office anymore.

That is for the coalition to decide. You had no problem with your hero who attacked Iraq with his WMD lies and who for eight years acted like a deer caught in the headlights!

>> one of the best articles I have read on Integrity Singh.

She has just summed up your own smear campaign of the past five years!

Thanks to the main stream Indian media to allow the author to express her honest view.  Only two types of people will oppose her view - 1) those who are vested interest (corrupted media, bureaucrats, businessmen etc. and criminal politicians); 2) a vast ignorant (who are not politically aware due to media corruption) and indifferent (only cares about own interest) common men.

I agree with most of the observations made against MMS, even the comparison with Gowda, however much I hate Gowda even today for making India into a laughing stock in the outside world. But then again, I would like all of you to remember the clowns we had as PMs, Charan Singh, Chandra Sekhar, VP Singh, Gujral etc. I would also ask the people, were this kind of scandals, big or small, any less in the time of Morarji, Indira, Rajiv, Vajpayee? What I would like ask is when was our PM's office not corrupt if we apply the definitions of Ms. Madhu Kishwar? I am sure all of you will come and argue one was less than the other. Is it OK to be less corrupt than the other or should we have one absolutely clean like Mr. Nanda, who served us for only 20-25 days in total. Who knows, he might have joined the list of corrupt people, if he served more days! Show me one person in India, who is clean and can bring all the regional and splinter parties ( who have no ideology except self promotion) on line, dole things big and small to keep everyone happy, keep the 'mushroom growth' political pundits (who can write few lines with catchy slogans) and pretty face 'talking heads' on TV happy, cope with all and every idiot who wants to break the country into smaller and smaller parts so that he can become a CM and his wife, son, son-in-law, and his pet dog as deputy CMs, keep an eye on every and single politician, army chief, SC judge, movie star and sports star, who want to grab a flat in the tallest building closest to the beach, grab every inch of Govt. land in one name or other for few rupees and rent back to Govt. for few thousand rupees per month, every religious character who wants to announce his 'God' is better and bigger than the other' but still need special protection from the Govt. and 'other' religious zealots, every 'cast' leader who wants to be declared as 'more backward' than the other 'backward' guy to grab a job, college seat and land, every communist who sends 'own' children to US for education and IT job in Microsoft, Google, Intel etc. but rants and raves against 'Obama support for the Nuclear Treaty', which we desperately beg US to grant , every ‘gun totting’ revolutionary in India who wants to overthrow the corrupt capitalistic country but loots, destroys, butchers, rapes, murders fellow poor and innocent people in the name of ideology, all these ‘neo intellectual writers’ seek and get attention and awards for their writings from western world but denounce the same as ‘exploiters and instigators of, murders and rapes by the ‘poor freedom fighters’ etc. etc. etc. etc. If you can come up with one name, one single name, including yours, I have a building bigger and more beautiful than 'TajMahal' in my backyard and I will give it to you free.

Out Prime Minister too is criminally liable for having allowed 2G spectrum scam resulting in a loss of 1.76 lakh crore to the public exchequer. He must quit office.

He is the " mask"for the corrupt Congress party

 Today anybody talking against the Prime minister is automatically construed to be a minstrel of the sangh. This sophisticated auto-blowback  may indeed be one of the greatest PR tricks pulled by the M Singh government. You hand it over to his government for this alone.

 im shocked to read this. V V true this has opened my eyes & for that matters billions of indians. Great work Madhu. Keep the clothes off these corruput people & importantly in efficent incompetent PM who has allowed these bastards to grow & pop up

 " who insist on turning a blind eye to the distinction between being corrupt and being circumvented and overwhelmed! "

If Integrity Singh was overwhelmed, then he has no business continuing in office anymore. If this is the best defense his staunchest supporter can come up with, he is a much worse PM than I thought.

This is one of the best articles I have read on Integrity Singh.

Sonia chose MMS as the PM in UPA1 because she knows he is not a politician but he will act as an employee of  sonia. She chose him because she was sure that like any other politician he doesn't know politics. If she has awarded the role to any one other than MMS he would have broke the party or will have his own followers. People know that he will act as a rubber stamp of Sonia. What ppl didn't expect is he will act as rubber stamp of each and every minister. That is what is hurting us. See the ways in which Raja brushed aside the comments from PM. No doubt all the ministers have done the same. Shame on MMS. He is not a honest man, if he is he would have resigned long back.

#44 - "This makes me feel that the media handles Mr Rahul Gandhi with kid gloves."

After Barkhagate, any doubts in this regard may be put to rest. Not just that the media handles some with kid gloves but why.

I say we should listen to Dr Jayaprakash Narayan more seriously.
This guy seems to have few solutions.

Can I expect an article on him in near future?

 Clearly,PM`s image has darkened after all this.But other than Manmohan singhji who is fit  for the PM post.Honestly speaking, to remain in the PM post and do good to the Nation ,one will have to compromise on certain issues..,,..for this is INDIA ..Or else GOD himself has to come and rule. There are many persons of impeccable integrity outside politics like Abdul Kalam,Kiran Bedi etc... why dont they enter politics????? even if they enter politics they wont race straight to PM post unless they flex on some matter or other..But ,I will magree on the fact that ,sparing MMS,A.K Antony & Chidambaram its rotting in aviation ,health, environment & all other ministeries.If next regime ,happens to be UPA3 it will surely prove detrimental to our Nation.

Finally somebody got the guts to call a spade "a spade". 

Drama all around !!  It is too obvious now that PM knew everything but wanted to keep Madam and his team happy by allowing them to loot. If a captain of a team gets the credit for a trophy then he must also be ready to take the brickbats.

MMS !!! your martyr drama is getting too painful. You are definately one of India weakest PMs. Most of India's economic gains since 1991 have happened inspite of the Government so Congress cannot take any credit.They have been the beneficiary of an indifferent electorate. But watch this space in 2014.

I am sure what is going to follow is resignation drama. Get set folks!!! The nation is going through tough times just when the going was good and we were the flavor of Asia!!

MMS is an honest man, and a man of great integrity. However, India expects more out of her PM than merely honesty and integrity. The zeal with which he was pursuing the Nuclear deal is gone, infact that was the only time he seemed to be in charge. There have been so many cases of corruption in the recent times, most of them emanating from the Congress, and your hardly hear anything from him which assures the people of this country that action will be taken against the culprits. CBI raiding Raja's house after almost a year that the scan has ben unearthed shows that this govt has a sense of humour, but unfortunately the joke is on us. Sure Kalmadi, Raja, Ashok Chawan have resigned, but is that enough? Shouldnt there be criminal cases against them? Merely saying that they have resigned while BJP's Yedi hasnt wont help, if people of this country were happy with BJP, then it wont be sitting in the opposition. A man of real integrity would have accepted responsibility for all these scams and taken toughest possible action, and not these cosmetic actions just to put there noses ahead of the BJP. I was a big fan of MMS, bad sadly Mr PM, you failed the nation

 You too MMS?

Madhu has simply drawn our attention to the 'emperor's clothes'. People who knew of these clothes were being dubbed 'Sanghies' all this while. Madhu may be the next in line.

When Advani described MMS as 'Nikamma', he was euphemistic. It is unbelievable that the PM has still not chosen to bare his mind to the people about the whole affair. Shows that he does not feel obliged to do so since he is not an elected member of the house - not by the people. It is also strange that this man of great 'personal integrity' is instrumental in appointing tainted persons to practically every high public office. Or is he being blackmailed ???

Is it so difficulat to be honest and clean?

It appears so.

Regards,

Naresh

 I love the "The False Claims Act" or "Lincoln Law" in USA:

"The False Claims Act (31 U.S.C. § 3729–3733, also called the "Lincoln Law") is an American federal law that allows people who are not affiliated with the government to file actions against federal contractors they accuse of committing claims fraud against the government. The act of filing such actions is informally called "whistleblowing." Persons filing under the Act stand to receive a portion (usually about 15–25 percent) of any recovered damages. The Act provides a legal tool to counteract fraudulent billings turned in to the federal government. Claims under the law have been filed by persons with insider knowledge of false claims that have typically involved health care, military, or other government spending programs. The government has recovered nearly $22 billion under the False Claims Act between 1987 (after the significant 1986 amendments) and 2008".

Why not follow a similar Law in India?

 Recent public / TV debates on transparency for accountability:

1. How can we stamp out corruption? Published On: October 23, 2010

With corruption hitting the headlines due to CWG, we discuss whether corruption can be eradicated from our country.

http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/the-big-fight/how-can-we-stamp-out-corruption/171466

2. Our honorable MPs Salary slip Vs Report Card – 04 OCT 2010

http://www.ndtv-hindu.com/features/chennai-speaks-out/2010/oct/04/132/our-honorable-mps-salary-slip-vs-report-card

3. Battle of Ideas - Satellite Events 2010 on ‘A new technological democracy?’ Nov 23, 2010 of Institute of Ideas, London.

http://battleofideas.org.uk/index.php/2010/session_detail/4591/
http://battleofideas.org.uk/index.php/2010/speaker_detail/5439/

4. NDTV-HINDU - Chennai Speaks Out - "IS THE BATTLE AGAINST CORRUPTION A KNEE JERK REACTION OR A SUSTAINED CAMPAIGN?"

http://www.ndtv-hindu.com/features/chennai-speaks-out/2010/dec/12/166/is-the-battle-against-corruption-a-knee-jerk-reaction-or-a-sustained-campaign

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First of all milllion of thanks to the journalist and editor.Journalism at its best,at the peak,at the heaven...............I do't have words to express my happiness after reading such kind of article which expressed truth at its best lgical,coherent manner.

I truly believe "fish rots from it's head",and watching the current SCAMs in India i find we don't need a man of words ,we need a man who is capable to take action against all these kind of rotten heads..Though MMS may be a man of words but where is action barring few incidents(can be said as mostly eyewashes).

Though i do't hate MMS ,So now time has come so that i 'll see some of the rotten heads rolling in 10 Janpath street.............

once again i wish such kind of articles should be published very often to give kicks those have gone for hibernation......

Agree with several others that this is undoubtedly one of the few articles that brings the spotlight where it should be - on Manmohan Singh. Knowingly looking the other way makes him complicit in corruption, just as it makes Narendra Modi complicit in the Gujarat Genocide.

But, then again, what is to be expected from a PM and polity obsessed with 10% GDP growth rate. That's all they want - double digit growth. And, the fastest and easiest way (not the only way) to get there on an ANNUAL basis is to sell off public resources, pubic goods, and break down social and labor protection institutions. 

So, in that sense Manmohan Singh is our own version of Mr. 10% (whichever way you interpret it.) Hamara 10% - sirf hamara!

I do congratulate the Outlook team, Vinod Mehta and Madhu Kishwar for being so vocal on matters of corruption, not just in our politics but also in our media. However, I am cautious in giving such accolades as many of us, your readers, will also lose all faith in you if we see business as usual return, i.e., post-dinner burping and punditry with Barkha Dutt, Vir Sanghvi, Rajdeep Sardesai, et al every other night.

Please boycott BIG DISHONEST MEDIA! It starts with you!

There are many better mediums and forums from where you are and you will be heard. Thanks!

You should also add the crores of public money he regularly gifts to the innumerable Sonia and family owned trusts, foundations, 'libraries' etc since the time he was a Finance Minister under Narasimha Rao.

 Advani was correct - Manmohan is the weakest PM we ever had. He has never acted on corrupt ministers.Shame on UPA 2. Let us not fall for 'What can Integrity Singh do? He is only a puppet'.  Let the bl*&@ puppet resign and show some spine. 

I would forgive Dr MMS if had stolen few crores of Rupees but I will never forgive him for making us accept corruption as a way of life. The damage is too huge and will take decades and generations to recover.
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He is a recluse who does not steal but allows a dynasty who with help of (ultra-nationalists super corrupt) SINGHs destroys a wonder called INDIA. In return maintains his position.

No wonder we need modern day "Parshuram" to free this world from Singhs!!

Manmohan singh is the BIGGEST YES MAN of India. His raise to PM SHIP is entairely due to his capability to "please his bose" and be an YES MAN.
Whatever he did as Finance secretary he undid as the Govenor of Reserve Bank of India.
What ever he did as the Governor of Reserve bank of India was undone when he was the Finanace Minister of India.
As PM- less said the better- MMS has been the biggest FLOP PM OF INDIA.

MMS was NEVER elected as the PM but selected as PM. His inability to get elected to LOK SABHA was the biggest + POINT for his selection a PM- and we all know who selected him. So MMS has the responsibilty  to protect his boss.

Vinod Mehta will be the greatest patriot if he can put a team to trace the money trail,from 2G scam,CWG scam,Adarsh scam and so on.Both Raja and T.R.Baalu are closely linked to the powerful evangelists in Tamil Nadu and a large chunk of the loot could have been diverted to these anti-Hindu forces.Likewise a cohort of Raja,Sadik Basha may have links to Dawood Ibrahim.Sonia and Rahul visiting US during this period,ostensibly to visit the senior Mrs Maino is also suspect.Already Sonia is doing everything to divert the attention of the nation from these scams by making the gullible to asemble in large numbers at Delhi for her 65th birthday,wearing T-shirts with slogan 'our guide is mother Sonia'.This reminds the days of 'Indira is India'She has already asked her congis to spread the message to mean that it is her money for NREGs etc.With every appointee from the President downwards being her selection,a new avatar of emergency can be round the corner.

Wish more ordinary mortals in India could read thro' this excellent piece from Ms.Madhu. But in the present day India lorded over by the Corrupt politicians and bureaucrats , very few would take time or have the inclination to read factual statements. As correctly stated by the author, one fails to understand why MMS should be eulogised like this when he has let down the nation so miserably by being only a Soniacentric sycophant!! Although we do not expect him to be another Nitish Kumar, he can atleast take a few lessons from him on good governance. Let us hope and pray that MMS gets enlightenment and think about putting nation's interest first before the interests of his corrupt coterie of politicians and bureaucrats!!

Congrats to Outlook for daring to publish this article . 

 I suspect Outlook has more dirt on MMS from Radia tapes which it will be releasing soon. That seems to be the reason it has boldly published this fantastic article. To claim, I was the first to say so openly.

So much corruption is going on in every inch of India and no one dares to report on it in any main stream media. It is a pity that brave soldiers lost their lives trying to save these politicians' lives during the Parliamentary attack. I dont agree that 2G is the mother of all scams. It is just 1 among the many such atrocities.There must be many many such horrid things going on in every department,ministry,state,district,panchayat,election. I know personally how poor people are bribed in broad daylight during every Tamil Nadu elections by DMK. It is such an open secret. I voted for a person who has filed many cases in TN for peoples welfare and all he got was 2500 votes! I am ashamed I am not doing anything about all these things. But one thing MMS surely has got: HONOUR among thieves! Shame.

Two personalities Mr Rahul Gandhi and Mrs Sonia Gandhi appear to be the darlings of the media and they can lose elections and their proteges can be hauled up by CAG and CBI and yet the media dare not question them. My submission is as follows:

1. Mrs Sonia Gandhi gave a brief TV bite soon after the Bihar election results and after congratulating Mr Nitish Kumar she went on to say that the Congress was trying to build the grass roots in Bihar and as a long term strategy it went solo. Then she commented on the fact that her party was the only one to take action on its members who were found under a cloud, meaning - Mr Natwar Singh, Mr Ashok Chavan, Mr Kalmadi and Mr Raja. She also lambasted BJP for shielding Mr Yeddyurappa.

As a follow up none in the media has raked up the core issue of "why so many scams are being unearthed(the loan scam being the latest)". Majority of the scams are from the Congress stable. Is the Congress only to react when a scam is unearthed. Should not the Congress be proactive and take the bull by the horns and order internal enquiries of all major decisions and book the culprits. Is the Congress' cupboard full of skeletons and therefore they are afraid to rake up the muck.

2. Again, Mrs Sonia Gandhi gave a TV bite on the 2G scam and lambasted the opposition on dragging the Prime Minister's name and said that the PM was a person of the highest integrity and 100% honest.

This statement begs a follow up issue. If not the PM who, above Mr Raja are involved. Again, none in the media has taken up this issue and played it safe by not dragging the Congress President or the DMK President into the controversy.

These two instances make me think that Mrs Gandhi is handled with kid gloves by the media.

3. Mr Rahul Gandhi failed miserably in Bihar elections and all the media people debated the issue and the sycophants defended the indefensible. It is a wonder why the media did not get a sound bite from the man himself. Again, whenever you talk of Mr Rahul Gandhi it is as though he is the only choice of Prime Minister. When it comes to other parties and there could be some aspirants, then they are shown with a lot of derision.

We see the Presidents of almost all the parties being questioned by the media except one President and one General Secretary.

This makes me feel that the media handles Mr Rahul Gandhi with kid gloves.

Would Mr Vinod Mehta now take on the mantle of belling the tigress and her cub now that Ms Kishwar has targeted the meek cat.

 Madhu Kishwar is an original thinker and a brave one at that.

Having no politics a part from nationalism she often states unpalatable counter mainstream truths.

I have often expressed my admiration for her and today stand vindicated.

 Ms Madhu Kishwar's article is revealing in truth and I entirely agree with her. I also commend her for being able to openly express the thoughts unlike the general media, both print and video. Well done, lady. Hope others in the media wake up to this truth!

 good expose

"Many Singhs: just to name V P Singh, Arjun Singh, Digvijay Singh, MMS are loyal to corruption figure head and sustain their lives." - VIMAL

They were all nationalists of the highest order to begin with.

1. But, VP Singh was drugged into crassness by Munusamy and his Mandal gang.

2. As for the others, some skull-cap fanatics started changing their surname from Singh to Sangh. Hence, they were enticed to the wrong path.

One of the skull-cap representatives also hovers around on Outlook 24*7. Even though he keeps calling everyone a Sanghi, he doesn't really mean it; his agenda is to convert others to pseudo-secularism.

MMS is a morally deficient gutless technocrat, thrust on this nation my the gandhi family. The gandhi family has abused every institution in this country. Sonia Gandhi after making MMS the PM of this nation, took away all the powers that a PM enjoys by not providing the political legitimacy that a PM should enjoy.

Sonia's "inner voice" was to enjoy power without responsibility and to keep the PM seat warm for her son Rahul Gandhi. She thrust a gutless PM on India and people in India enthralled by the performance of MMS as a good finance minister and a good technocrat gave him good response in his first term. All the corruption in his first term under the able guidance of the PM got brushed aside till the shit hit the ceiling. After the shit hit the ceiling there was no getting away from the game.

Now we are in the situation where MMS has been dragged through the muck, Sonia and Rahul Gandhi have been exposed and a directionless government in panic mode. The India story is under danger we need a change immediately. The government needs to resign and ask for polls and get people's approval once again before proceeding as this government has lost all legitimacy to rule India

 "The fact is he IS honest, however to ensure the Govt runs , he has to put up with scoundrels. This Madhu character is a pure rabble rouser and and will say / do anything to get noticed." - CJU

Interesting argument. Why does it stink of pseudo-secular diatribe?

Is this the first coalition government that Manmohan Sangh is heading? If that is the logic, why did the previous coalition governments did not fall into such credibility crisis?

Is this the first time that we have 'scoundrels' in the parliament. If even Deve Gowdas and Gujrals could handle that, how does that reflect on MMS's capabilities.

What kind of pressure from coalition or 'scoundrels' forced him to anoint Pratibha aunty, Chawla sir and Uncle Thomas on this tightrope democracy?

Why every writer say good things about PM -  I feel public thinks him as best of alternatives and are wary of other politicians becoming PM.  

I do agree with you that a PM can not close eyes and let corruption go on.  He is leading government and is responsible for misdeeds of the government.  Problem is that he is not a statemen -  best suited to act as economic advisor to MoF.

He is a failure in foreign policy too.  Sri Lanka solved its internal problem - what the world has done.  India has allowed Kashmir problem to get worse and in coming years it will become more serious.

I thank you for this article.

 awesome article!!!

>> It is surprising how quick people are to embrace Madhu Kishwar's unbalanced and spiteful diatribe as Gospel truth!

It shall be an even greater surprise when a secular can actually rebut any of her facts/thoughts, instead of labeling them as "unbalanced and spiteful diatribe".

MMS looks and tries to be HONEST. Sonia led congress is using his "image" to loot the nation.

He is weakest and perhaps most corrupt PM of india.

Many Singhs: just to name V P Singh, Arjun Singh, Digvijay Singh, MMS are loyal to corruption figure head and sustain their lives.

Qudos Madhu !!

You have the guts to pin-point the gang-leader. He is good economist enough to save his skin by refusing JPC, who can conveniently drag and fix his responsibility in entire scam.

Great article...Dr MMS though not financially corrupt is morally corrupt to the extreme. He has significantly contributed to our current state where corruption is endemic and has become a way of life... An analysis of all the hotspots in the world will reveal that corruption as a way of life has detroyed them and despite all efforts they still continue to struggle.

I would forgive Dr MMS if had stolen few crores of Rupees but I will never forgive him for making us accept corruption as a way of life. The damage is too huge and will take decades and generations to recover. 

CJU,

>> The fact is he IS honest, however to ensure the Govt runs , he has to put up with scoundrels. This Madhu character is a pure rabble rouser and and will say / do anything to get noticed.

I have been thinking along those lines too. Thanks for articulating it so well.

It is surprising how quick people are to embrace Madhu Kishwar's unbalanced and spiteful diatribe as Gospel truth!

Am sooooooo HAPPY TO READ THIS...I hve always believed in what u said here..MANMOHAN SINGH is a Culprit...and showing him as Mr. Clean is biased and illogical...And from radia barkhagate tapes...We know all media is sell-out...I see regularly how barkha tries to stop you from making a full point...Hope u've now boycotted her shows..we are...

COZ OF STUPID BJP..WE ARE SUFFERING :( ....THEY CANT STOP FIGHTING..

THANK YOU madhukeshwar :)

Congratulation to Ms. Madhu. and Outlook who are continously supporting the truth.

Madhu has shown the Mirror to the so called Honest Prime Minister Manmohan Singh. In fact he is nothing more then then modern day Dhritrastra ( as was in Mahabharat). Mr. Manmohan Singh cannont escape his responsibility for corruption spreaded by his team.

Has he been honest, then he would have resigned by now and would have told the truth to the public. But he is not at all behind in being corrupt and in fact he is leading the Most Corrupt team, Indian National Corrupts (INC)

Regards

manmohan singh should resign...there is no after thought... if he isnt making any new laws for India's betterment ( since parliament aint working) if he is not making any money for himself  ( karuna made a cool 600 crs recently overnight), if he isnt framing any new laws to prevent corrpution within the congress ( which has crossed 21st Century record limits!!)

MANMOHAN SINGH MUST RESIGN.....THERE IS NO LOGIC OF HIM CONTINUING....WE NEED A NEW CORRUPT PM...WE CAN MANAGE WITH SONIA GANDHI NOW

 All the commentators and editors while vouching for manmohan singh being honest are indirectly blaming Rahul and Sonia as corrupt and responsible for the mess.

Please read between the lines.

Madhu Purnima's article should be printed as a booklet and distributed free across the country.Surely,Vinod Mehta has washed off all his past sins by publishing this one article.Manmohan Singh who would not even meet eyes with Narasimha Rao in the presence of Sonia Gandhi is surely of a low calibre.There are any number of capable people in the country who can replace him,but he is hoodwinking the people at large to think that there will be a deluge if he goes.Manmohan's unsatiated greed is to become the President in the most unfortunate event of Congress coming back to power after the 2014 elections.

 "We shall not know unless someday he writes his Experiments with Truth!" - Anwaar

That will need to be just a one-pager book, running as: "Munni badnaam hui, darlling tere liye...."

PS: No offences meant to any Munni on this planet. Don't want any of them to file a defamation case against me.

PEOPLE HAVE TOTALLY WRONG IMAGE OF MANMOHAN SINGH WHO HAS A DOCTORATE IN CORRUPTION. WHERE EVER HE HAS WORKED THE DEPARTMENTS BECAME MORE CORRUPT BECAUSE MANMOHAN WANTS THE CHAIR

1969: Singh becomes Professor of International Trade at the Delhi School of Economics

March 1971: with the help of known communist PN Haksar most powerful man in Indra’s Court; Manmohan Singh joins Indian Bureaucracy (1971-1991).

Haksar famous for:

Nationalisation of India’s banks
The Congress split and creation of the Congress(I) I means Indra
Politicisation of the bureaucracy including the intelligence services
Civil servants became politically committed pro-USSR bureaucrats by ushering into the courtier culture and durbar politics
August 1971 “Treaty of Peace, Friendship and Cooperation” with the USSR: was supposed to run 25 years (but the USSR collapsed before the treaty)

Manmohan Singh’s rise as Haksar’s & later PN Dhar’s domestic pet:
When PN Haksar fell out of Indra’s favor and retired in 1974 Manmohan Singh has already cultivated relations with his replacement PN Dhar. Manmohan knew Dhar as one of the founding members of the Delhi School of Economics where he taught.

1972: Chief Economic Adviser
1976: Secretary in the Finance Ministry
1980-1982: at the Planning Commission
1982-1985: Reserve Bank Governor under Comerade Pranab Mukherjee as Finance Minister
Then Planning Commission head
1987-1990 in Geneva: head, “South-South Commission” (invented by Julius Nyerere of Tanzania).

Achievments as a financial bureaucrat in the above post:

Origins of the Rs 30 lakh crore public debt we have today
Beginning of exponential money supply growth and inflation
Continuing deficit finance
No measure to check corruption
No enforcement of clean accounting
No strict audits

Manmohan Singh’s ‘achievements’ as economic adviser:

The economy hurtled into crisis
Hit already by drought in 1973, the (Indira) Gandhi-Dhar-Singh team aggravated the situation by nationalizing wholesale trade in foodgrains, which, in turn, created the first unholy cartel of hoarders
Rate of inflation touched 30%
Panicked, Singh froze dearness allowance and cut short corporate dividends drastically
Result: The stock market plunged, Private companies shut shop one after another, facing incessant strikes by workers

In 1979, knowingly or inadvertently, Singh made the breakaway Janata Party's Government (led by Charan Singh's Bharatiya Lok Dal) look worse by increasing corporate tax manifold,

not to be cowered by the hike in tax, the companies passed the additional cost on to customers. Result:
• Prices of essential commodities like soaps, toothpastes, etc – held as a monopoly by Hindustan Lever Ltd, thanks to the government's complicity – skyrocketed
• Followed by the second oil shock, the rate of inflation shot up once again to 17%
• People voted back Indira Gandhi
Singh was promoted to a ministerial rank, picked up from (one of the departments of) the Planning Commission and made the Governor of the Reserve Bank after the retirement of IG Patel two years later
But research yielded that Singh was simultaneously Director, Reserve Bank of India (1976-1980), Director, Industrial Development Bank of India (1976-1980) and Secretary, Ministry of Finance (Department of Economic Affairs), Government of India, (1977-1980).

Second, how come Singh received two promotions immediately after Indira Gandhi came back to power, though with the above kind of performance under the Charan Singh regime, he deserved to pay and not be paid?

Achievments as a financial bureaucrat in the above post:

Origins of the Rs 30 lakh crore public debt we have today
Beginning of exponential money supply growth and inflation
Continuing deficit finance
No measure to check corruption
No enforcement of clean accounting
No strict audits

The author has spoken the truth, only the truth and nothing but the truth! I might add that he is an agent of the US mercenaries, selling the whole country he has been tasked, empowered and paid heavily to govern, for less than 30 silver coins!

 I  am proud of Madhu Purnima. Thanks to Outlook for publishing this great article.Manmohan Singh is directly involved with corruption since he was Finance Minister.An associate of thief and robbers cannot claim himself to be a honest person.A person who praised George Bush cannot be considered as human being. A person who is afraid of JPC must be condemnd.

The country has been pondering these  questions for years, just that the paid Congress chamchas in the media would never pose such questions to MMS and the Gandhi parivar.  MMS will go down in the history as possibly a PM worser than Devegowda (now if that is not an insult I can't think of anything better!). The sad part is he is on overdraft mode on the "personal honesty and integrity" front to try and shield the Gandhi family and the Raja's of the world. He is displaying an unfathomable amount of shamelessness in brazening out every scam. He has turned into a politician! The only icon who remains unblemished is "our" honourable Dr. APJ and Congress sent him packing because it cannot tolerate a towering personality. 

 Unfortunately, the grim campaigns that BJP launched in 209 seems to be turning true. Even Advani's statement tha tManmohan was the weakest prime minister we ever had rings so correct now.

The proiblem is not that Manmohan Singh has destroyed his own goodwill. The issue is that he has demolished the public's faith in such positions as PM, President, CVC, Election Commission.

Anwaar,

"We shall not know unless someday he writes his Experiments with Truth!" - Well I for one will not be holding my breath waiting for this treatise to emerge.

A pity really. For all the good Manmohan has done he will be remembered for presiding over a totally corrupt government and being unwilling (or unable) to rein his colleagues.

This may sound cliche' & hackneyed. But when you talk media you talk of corporate media who love to call Republic of India as India Inc. One also may  have noticed that the term 'collective responsibilty' in cabinet system of government is totally absent from the discourse 'every commentator, every TV anchor, every editorial writer'. So “personal honesty and integrity" is  neccessary idiom to fudge collective responsibilty or responsibilty at the place where buck stops.

The fact is he IS honest, however to ensure the Govt runs , he has to put up with scoundrels, This Madhu character is a pure rabble rouser and and will say / do anything to get noticed

 This attack on MMS is misdirected.

Lets see one by one 

1.Pratibha Patil-was appointed by Sonia, despite people's love for Abdul Kalam

2.Navin Chawla - was a known henchman of Gandhi family

3.Omar Abdullah - is close pal of Prince  Rahul.

How is MMS responsible for these  decisions?

Mr.Vinod Mehta should publish an article questioning Sonia Gandhi, not MMS.

Question should be directed at the Puppeteer, not the puppet.

Excellent article, and a must read article for everyone. Especially the media anchor and journalists. In democracy no one is indispensable. In fact I blame Manmohan than even Raja. As a prime minister, how dare he can allow the national assets to be traded by certain unscruplous elements for a hefty profit. The nation sufffers ultimately. The prime minister must answer, and by he is indifferent attitude to the mother of scam corruption, people like Raja emboldened to take the nation for a ransom. Manmohan must resign not only his post and quit politics.

A refreshing article. At last some one has raised their voice above the din created by the highly motivated media paying 'ritual obeisance to the PM's honesty and integrity' while it is blindingly obvious even to an idiot that he is presiding over one of the most corrupt regimes India ever had. What kind of special personal honesty these chaps are talking about and what is the value of such honesty?

What about the alternative view that such 'honesty and integrity' provides a fantastic cover for systematic and organized corruption. 

Madhu, you have hit the nail on the head. For long I have been wanting to write myself on this issue. HE IS NOT AN HONEST MAN. If you notice he never has a point to make whenever the country is looking for answers. Kashmir, Bhopal, CWG, Adarsh, 2G, 26/11  etc. What kind of a PM is he if he cannot speak his mind and take the nation into confidence. Perhaps, if he opens his mouth he will look like an IDIOT. He is the most IRRESPONSIBLE LEADER of a major country.

Madhu, I have a point for you too. You are a regular with NDTV, CNN IBN etc. Now where do you stand on this? After the Radii Tapes, I stopped watching these channels. Like cricket fixing, I was wasting my time.

Finally, a main stream commentator has developed the guts to say what every honest person has been saying for a long time (including on this forum).

No wonder the dishonest crowd is irritated, and tries to play around with words like "distinction between being corrupt and being circumvented and overwhelmed".

She says left...he takes left...she says right...he takes right...she says stand up..he stands up...she says sit down...he will sit down...She is Sonia and he is MMS... I am surprised that Outlook writes about him and not his "Handler".....the buck stops at 10, Janpath...

She says left...he takes left...she says right...he takes right...she says stand up..he stands up...she says sit down...he will sit down...She is Sonia and he is MMS...

Bonita,

>>  A man of integrity would have put in his papers a long time ago.

What made him choose not resigning over resigning is a mystery. The reason may be pedestrian or altruistic. We shall not know unless someday he writes his Experiments with Truth!

Terrific piece of writing ! One of the most sensible,lucid articles exposing this corrupt Singh who has been a disaster in each and every aspect esp related to corruption and national security as Madhu articulately pointed out.This shameless idiot should leave before he loses even the respect he had as a sincere but pliant bureaucrat.Kudos to Outlook and Vinod Mehta for publishing this article in a timely manner when the whole Radia tapes is clearly pointing the role of PM and Congress in sharing the loot of 2G scam.Also I will be the happiest if the AntiNational Disgrace TV is shutdown by Wikileaks :) Waiting for it then we dont need to force Barkha out lol..

Anwaar,

"distinction between being corrupt and being circumvented and overwhelmed" - There is no distinction when you are the boss. A man of integrity would have put in his papers a long time ago. By staying on as PM Manmohan is acquiescing in all that goes on around him and under his nose.

Somewhere else it was said that Manmohan is innocent and all the blame for the corruption must be laid at Sonia's door. This is impossible. If Sonia is guilty than Manmohan has to be guilty as the line passes through him.

His lies about being a resident of Assam to get elected to the Rajya Sabha are well known. I hadn't heard the one about him attributing the 1984 Delhi riots to the RSS before.

Oh My God....

Am I reading Outlook or Organiser?

This piece is the first serious analysis of MMS tenure by a distinguished personality. I congratulate Madhu on her article. I am compelled to congratulate Vinod Mehta for allowing this article to be published.

I now expect outlook to launch a crusade against the corrupt UPA-2 (without giving a damn to what the secularists and seular journalists - who are no more than pimps) Govt. In fact, tjis govt is a non-govt. The so called Govt is only serving the vested interests of a few crony capitalists (in fact all capitalists seems to be only crony) and off-course the first family (be it centre or in states like DMK/RJD et el).

Once again, every "intelligent" reader must look at the article in absolute terms and not in comparitive terms. Do not say MMS is better than Advani. As far integrity goes, Advani did resign as MP when his name featured in Hawala scandal.

Time for all congress apologists/supporters to go hammar and tongs at author of this article.

Dr Manmohan Singh may personally be above board but by sheltering the corrupt he is painting himself into a corner. If he had displayed some principles by threatening to quit as PM unless things were done his way, he would have won kudos from everybody.It is quite apparent that he is a puppet on a string, with the real power( guess who?) tugging everytime he wants to take action on any issue.The fact that he is allowing himself to be tugged is a great mystery. Is he so fond of the seat of PM that he is unwilling to take a principled stand on issues threatening to destroy the country? History will judge him as a meek, scared man afraid of his own shadow! He has contributed more to the country as Finance Minister rather than a Prime Minister! How did he allow himself to be so manipulated and compromised? What about something called self respect?  

A couple of years ago when I was in the thrall of MMS's "personal integrity and honesty"; I said so in a party. One of the other guests challanged me to give an example of how that trait has helped  in the governanace. This was during UPA 1 and a lot of present day scams were either in their formative stage or hidden from the  public eye. Even then I could not really say anything significant in support of my statement. It was not because I had had one too many, but I really could not pin point his contribution apart from him being a soft spokenand formally educated individual .As time progressed one realized that not only is this 'honesty' a mask;  it is hiding an inconvenient lack of personal Integrity and is in fact the mark of a "Yes man". He is needed to keep the PM's seat warm, not be a PM  himself. Although to be fair to him, it is a job he is doing well.  Madhu is right though . MMS has shown a complete lack of accountablity  for  good governanace and total abdication of his responsibilties as head of the government.

Madhu Kishwar has jumped on the bandwagon of the unabashed MMS-bashers in this forum who insist on turning a blind eye to the distinction between being corrupt and being circumvented and overwhelmed! 

THANKS FOR THIS GREAT ARTICLE ON THE STENCH OF CORRUPTION AND GUILTY BEING AWARD-AWARDED BY NOT PUNISHED .

With due respect, Dr. Manmohan Singh is an old fashioned admirer of American Individualism and an inadvertent supporter of India's crony capitalism. Time has come for these ideologies to collapse under the weight of their own contradictions. Let us hope that outlook magazine, wikileaks and the new media will help speed up the collapse and usher in a new, ethical and just economy. The transition is going to be tough and you magazine has a great role to play.

With due respect, Dr. Manmohan Singh is an old fashioned admirer of American Individualism and an inadvertent supporter of India's crony capitalism. Time has come for these ideologies to collapse under the weight of their own contradictions. Let us hope that outlook magazine, wikileaks and the new media will help speed up the collapse and usher in a new, ethical and just economy. The transition is going to be tough and you magazine has a great role to play.

THANKS FOR THIS GREAT ARTICLE ON THE STENCH OF CORRUPTION AND GUILTY BEING AWARD-AWARDED BY NOT PUNISHED .

Madhu Kishwar has jumped on the bandwagon of the unabashed MMS-bashers in this forum who insist on turning a blind eye to the distinction between being corrupt and being circumvented and overwhelmed! 

A couple of years ago when I was in the thrall of MMS's "personal integrity and honesty"; I said so in a party. One of the other guests challanged me to give an example of how that trait has helped  in the governanace. This was during UPA 1 and a lot of present day scams were either in their formative stage or hidden from the  public eye. Even then I could not really say anything significant in support of my statement. It was not because I had had one too many, but I really could not pin point his contribution apart from him being a soft spokenand formally educated individual .As time progressed one realized that not only is this 'honesty' a mask;  it is hiding an inconvenient lack of personal Integrity and is in fact the mark of a "Yes man". He is needed to keep the PM's seat warm, not be a PM  himself. Although to be fair to him, it is a job he is doing well.  Madhu is right though . MMS has shown a complete lack of accountablity  for  good governanace and total abdication of his responsibilties as head of the government.

Dr Manmohan Singh may personally be above board but by sheltering the corrupt he is painting himself into a corner. If he had displayed some principles by threatening to quit as PM unless things were done his way, he would have won kudos from everybody.It is quite apparent that he is a puppet on a string, with the real power( guess who?) tugging everytime he wants to take action on any issue.The fact that he is allowing himself to be tugged is a great mystery. Is he so fond of the seat of PM that he is unwilling to take a principled stand on issues threatening to destroy the country? History will judge him as a meek, scared man afraid of his own shadow! He has contributed more to the country as Finance Minister rather than a Prime Minister! How did he allow himself to be so manipulated and compromised? What about something called self respect?  

Oh My God....

Am I reading Outlook or Organiser?

This piece is the first serious analysis of MMS tenure by a distinguished personality. I congratulate Madhu on her article. I am compelled to congratulate Vinod Mehta for allowing this article to be published.

I now expect outlook to launch a crusade against the corrupt UPA-2 (without giving a damn to what the secularists and seular journalists - who are no more than pimps) Govt. In fact, tjis govt is a non-govt. The so called Govt is only serving the vested interests of a few crony capitalists (in fact all capitalists seems to be only crony) and off-course the first family (be it centre or in states like DMK/RJD et el).

Once again, every "intelligent" reader must look at the article in absolute terms and not in comparitive terms. Do not say MMS is better than Advani. As far integrity goes, Advani did resign as MP when his name featured in Hawala scandal.

Time for all congress apologists/supporters to go hammar and tongs at author of this article.

Anwaar,

"distinction between being corrupt and being circumvented and overwhelmed" - There is no distinction when you are the boss. A man of integrity would have put in his papers a long time ago. By staying on as PM Manmohan is acquiescing in all that goes on around him and under his nose.

Somewhere else it was said that Manmohan is innocent and all the blame for the corruption must be laid at Sonia's door. This is impossible. If Sonia is guilty than Manmohan has to be guilty as the line passes through him.

His lies about being a resident of Assam to get elected to the Rajya Sabha are well known. I hadn't heard the one about him attributing the 1984 Delhi riots to the RSS before.

Terrific piece of writing ! One of the most sensible,lucid articles exposing this corrupt Singh who has been a disaster in each and every aspect esp related to corruption and national security as Madhu articulately pointed out.This shameless idiot should leave before he loses even the respect he had as a sincere but pliant bureaucrat.Kudos to Outlook and Vinod Mehta for publishing this article in a timely manner when the whole Radia tapes is clearly pointing the role of PM and Congress in sharing the loot of 2G scam.Also I will be the happiest if the AntiNational Disgrace TV is shutdown by Wikileaks :) Waiting for it then we dont need to force Barkha out lol..

Bonita,

>>  A man of integrity would have put in his papers a long time ago.

What made him choose not resigning over resigning is a mystery. The reason may be pedestrian or altruistic. We shall not know unless someday he writes his Experiments with Truth!

She says left...he takes left...she says right...he takes right...she says stand up..he stands up...she says sit down...he will sit down...She is Sonia and he is MMS...

She says left...he takes left...she says right...he takes right...she says stand up..he stands up...she says sit down...he will sit down...She is Sonia and he is MMS... I am surprised that Outlook writes about him and not his "Handler".....the buck stops at 10, Janpath...

Finally, a main stream commentator has developed the guts to say what every honest person has been saying for a long time (including on this forum).

No wonder the dishonest crowd is irritated, and tries to play around with words like "distinction between being corrupt and being circumvented and overwhelmed".

Madhu, you have hit the nail on the head. For long I have been wanting to write myself on this issue. HE IS NOT AN HONEST MAN. If you notice he never has a point to make whenever the country is looking for answers. Kashmir, Bhopal, CWG, Adarsh, 2G, 26/11  etc. What kind of a PM is he if he cannot speak his mind and take the nation into confidence. Perhaps, if he opens his mouth he will look like an IDIOT. He is the most IRRESPONSIBLE LEADER of a major country.

Madhu, I have a point for you too. You are a regular with NDTV, CNN IBN etc. Now where do you stand on this? After the Radii Tapes, I stopped watching these channels. Like cricket fixing, I was wasting my time.

A refreshing article. At last some one has raised their voice above the din created by the highly motivated media paying 'ritual obeisance to the PM's honesty and integrity' while it is blindingly obvious even to an idiot that he is presiding over one of the most corrupt regimes India ever had. What kind of special personal honesty these chaps are talking about and what is the value of such honesty?

What about the alternative view that such 'honesty and integrity' provides a fantastic cover for systematic and organized corruption. 

Excellent article, and a must read article for everyone. Especially the media anchor and journalists. In democracy no one is indispensable. In fact I blame Manmohan than even Raja. As a prime minister, how dare he can allow the national assets to be traded by certain unscruplous elements for a hefty profit. The nation sufffers ultimately. The prime minister must answer, and by he is indifferent attitude to the mother of scam corruption, people like Raja emboldened to take the nation for a ransom. Manmohan must resign not only his post and quit politics.

 This attack on MMS is misdirected.

Lets see one by one 

1.Pratibha Patil-was appointed by Sonia, despite people's love for Abdul Kalam

2.Navin Chawla - was a known henchman of Gandhi family

3.Omar Abdullah - is close pal of Prince  Rahul.

How is MMS responsible for these  decisions?

Mr.Vinod Mehta should publish an article questioning Sonia Gandhi, not MMS.

Question should be directed at the Puppeteer, not the puppet.

The fact is he IS honest, however to ensure the Govt runs , he has to put up with scoundrels, This Madhu character is a pure rabble rouser and and will say / do anything to get noticed

This may sound cliche' & hackneyed. But when you talk media you talk of corporate media who love to call Republic of India as India Inc. One also may  have noticed that the term 'collective responsibilty' in cabinet system of government is totally absent from the discourse 'every commentator, every TV anchor, every editorial writer'. So “personal honesty and integrity" is  neccessary idiom to fudge collective responsibilty or responsibilty at the place where buck stops.

Anwaar,

"We shall not know unless someday he writes his Experiments with Truth!" - Well I for one will not be holding my breath waiting for this treatise to emerge.

A pity really. For all the good Manmohan has done he will be remembered for presiding over a totally corrupt government and being unwilling (or unable) to rein his colleagues.

 Unfortunately, the grim campaigns that BJP launched in 209 seems to be turning true. Even Advani's statement tha tManmohan was the weakest prime minister we ever had rings so correct now.

The proiblem is not that Manmohan Singh has destroyed his own goodwill. The issue is that he has demolished the public's faith in such positions as PM, President, CVC, Election Commission.

The country has been pondering these  questions for years, just that the paid Congress chamchas in the media would never pose such questions to MMS and the Gandhi parivar.  MMS will go down in the history as possibly a PM worser than Devegowda (now if that is not an insult I can't think of anything better!). The sad part is he is on overdraft mode on the "personal honesty and integrity" front to try and shield the Gandhi family and the Raja's of the world. He is displaying an unfathomable amount of shamelessness in brazening out every scam. He has turned into a politician! The only icon who remains unblemished is "our" honourable Dr. APJ and Congress sent him packing because it cannot tolerate a towering personality. 

 I  am proud of Madhu Purnima. Thanks to Outlook for publishing this great article.Manmohan Singh is directly involved with corruption since he was Finance Minister.An associate of thief and robbers cannot claim himself to be a honest person.A person who praised George Bush cannot be considered as human being. A person who is afraid of JPC must be condemnd.

The author has spoken the truth, only the truth and nothing but the truth! I might add that he is an agent of the US mercenaries, selling the whole country he has been tasked, empowered and paid heavily to govern, for less than 30 silver coins!

PEOPLE HAVE TOTALLY WRONG IMAGE OF MANMOHAN SINGH WHO HAS A DOCTORATE IN CORRUPTION. WHERE EVER HE HAS WORKED THE DEPARTMENTS BECAME MORE CORRUPT BECAUSE MANMOHAN WANTS THE CHAIR

1969: Singh becomes Professor of International Trade at the Delhi School of Economics

March 1971: with the help of known communist PN Haksar most powerful man in Indra’s Court; Manmohan Singh joins Indian Bureaucracy (1971-1991).

Haksar famous for:

Nationalisation of India’s banks
The Congress split and creation of the Congress(I) I means Indra
Politicisation of the bureaucracy including the intelligence services
Civil servants became politically committed pro-USSR bureaucrats by ushering into the courtier culture and durbar politics
August 1971 “Treaty of Peace, Friendship and Cooperation” with the USSR: was supposed to run 25 years (but the USSR collapsed before the treaty)

Manmohan Singh’s rise as Haksar’s & later PN Dhar’s domestic pet:
When PN Haksar fell out of Indra’s favor and retired in 1974 Manmohan Singh has already cultivated relations with his replacement PN Dhar. Manmohan knew Dhar as one of the founding members of the Delhi School of Economics where he taught.

1972: Chief Economic Adviser
1976: Secretary in the Finance Ministry
1980-1982: at the Planning Commission
1982-1985: Reserve Bank Governor under Comerade Pranab Mukherjee as Finance Minister
Then Planning Commission head
1987-1990 in Geneva: head, “South-South Commission” (invented by Julius Nyerere of Tanzania).

Achievments as a financial bureaucrat in the above post:

Origins of the Rs 30 lakh crore public debt we have today
Beginning of exponential money supply growth and inflation
Continuing deficit finance
No measure to check corruption
No enforcement of clean accounting
No strict audits

Manmohan Singh’s ‘achievements’ as economic adviser:

The economy hurtled into crisis
Hit already by drought in 1973, the (Indira) Gandhi-Dhar-Singh team aggravated the situation by nationalizing wholesale trade in foodgrains, which, in turn, created the first unholy cartel of hoarders
Rate of inflation touched 30%
Panicked, Singh froze dearness allowance and cut short corporate dividends drastically
Result: The stock market plunged, Private companies shut shop one after another, facing incessant strikes by workers

In 1979, knowingly or inadvertently, Singh made the breakaway Janata Party's Government (led by Charan Singh's Bharatiya Lok Dal) look worse by increasing corporate tax manifold,

not to be cowered by the hike in tax, the companies passed the additional cost on to customers. Result:
• Prices of essential commodities like soaps, toothpastes, etc – held as a monopoly by Hindustan Lever Ltd, thanks to the government's complicity – skyrocketed
• Followed by the second oil shock, the rate of inflation shot up once again to 17%
• People voted back Indira Gandhi
Singh was promoted to a ministerial rank, picked up from (one of the departments of) the Planning Commission and made the Governor of the Reserve Bank after the retirement of IG Patel two years later
But research yielded that Singh was simultaneously Director, Reserve Bank of India (1976-1980), Director, Industrial Development Bank of India (1976-1980) and Secretary, Ministry of Finance (Department of Economic Affairs), Government of India, (1977-1980).

Second, how come Singh received two promotions immediately after Indira Gandhi came back to power, though with the above kind of performance under the Charan Singh regime, he deserved to pay and not be paid?

Achievments as a financial bureaucrat in the above post:

Origins of the Rs 30 lakh crore public debt we have today
Beginning of exponential money supply growth and inflation
Continuing deficit finance
No measure to check corruption
No enforcement of clean accounting
No strict audits

 "We shall not know unless someday he writes his Experiments with Truth!" - Anwaar

That will need to be just a one-pager book, running as: "Munni badnaam hui, darlling tere liye...."

PS: No offences meant to any Munni on this planet. Don't want any of them to file a defamation case against me.

Madhu Purnima's article should be printed as a booklet and distributed free across the country.Surely,Vinod Mehta has washed off all his past sins by publishing this one article.Manmohan Singh who would not even meet eyes with Narasimha Rao in the presence of Sonia Gandhi is surely of a low calibre.There are any number of capable people in the country who can replace him,but he is hoodwinking the people at large to think that there will be a deluge if he goes.Manmohan's unsatiated greed is to become the President in the most unfortunate event of Congress coming back to power after the 2014 elections.

 All the commentators and editors while vouching for manmohan singh being honest are indirectly blaming Rahul and Sonia as corrupt and responsible for the mess.

Please read between the lines.

manmohan singh should resign...there is no after thought... if he isnt making any new laws for India's betterment ( since parliament aint working) if he is not making any money for himself  ( karuna made a cool 600 crs recently overnight), if he isnt framing any new laws to prevent corrpution within the congress ( which has crossed 21st Century record limits!!)

MANMOHAN SINGH MUST RESIGN.....THERE IS NO LOGIC OF HIM CONTINUING....WE NEED A NEW CORRUPT PM...WE CAN MANAGE WITH SONIA GANDHI NOW

Congratulation to Ms. Madhu. and Outlook who are continously supporting the truth.

Madhu has shown the Mirror to the so called Honest Prime Minister Manmohan Singh. In fact he is nothing more then then modern day Dhritrastra ( as was in Mahabharat). Mr. Manmohan Singh cannont escape his responsibility for corruption spreaded by his team.

Has he been honest, then he would have resigned by now and would have told the truth to the public. But he is not at all behind in being corrupt and in fact he is leading the Most Corrupt team, Indian National Corrupts (INC)

Regards

Am sooooooo HAPPY TO READ THIS...I hve always believed in what u said here..MANMOHAN SINGH is a Culprit...and showing him as Mr. Clean is biased and illogical...And from radia barkhagate tapes...We know all media is sell-out...I see regularly how barkha tries to stop you from making a full point...Hope u've now boycotted her shows..we are...

COZ OF STUPID BJP..WE ARE SUFFERING :( ....THEY CANT STOP FIGHTING..

THANK YOU madhukeshwar :)

It is surprising how quick people are to embrace Madhu Kishwar's unbalanced and spiteful diatribe as Gospel truth!

CJU,

>> The fact is he IS honest, however to ensure the Govt runs , he has to put up with scoundrels. This Madhu character is a pure rabble rouser and and will say / do anything to get noticed.

I have been thinking along those lines too. Thanks for articulating it so well.

Great article...Dr MMS though not financially corrupt is morally corrupt to the extreme. He has significantly contributed to our current state where corruption is endemic and has become a way of life... An analysis of all the hotspots in the world will reveal that corruption as a way of life has detroyed them and despite all efforts they still continue to struggle.

I would forgive Dr MMS if had stolen few crores of Rupees but I will never forgive him for making us accept corruption as a way of life. The damage is too huge and will take decades and generations to recover. 

MMS looks and tries to be HONEST. Sonia led congress is using his "image" to loot the nation.

He is weakest and perhaps most corrupt PM of india.

Many Singhs: just to name V P Singh, Arjun Singh, Digvijay Singh, MMS are loyal to corruption figure head and sustain their lives.

Qudos Madhu !!

You have the guts to pin-point the gang-leader. He is good economist enough to save his skin by refusing JPC, who can conveniently drag and fix his responsibility in entire scam.

>> It is surprising how quick people are to embrace Madhu Kishwar's unbalanced and spiteful diatribe as Gospel truth!

It shall be an even greater surprise when a secular can actually rebut any of her facts/thoughts, instead of labeling them as "unbalanced and spiteful diatribe".

 awesome article!!!

Why every writer say good things about PM -  I feel public thinks him as best of alternatives and are wary of other politicians becoming PM.  

I do agree with you that a PM can not close eyes and let corruption go on.  He is leading government and is responsible for misdeeds of the government.  Problem is that he is not a statemen -  best suited to act as economic advisor to MoF.

He is a failure in foreign policy too.  Sri Lanka solved its internal problem - what the world has done.  India has allowed Kashmir problem to get worse and in coming years it will become more serious.

I thank you for this article.

 "The fact is he IS honest, however to ensure the Govt runs , he has to put up with scoundrels. This Madhu character is a pure rabble rouser and and will say / do anything to get noticed." - CJU

Interesting argument. Why does it stink of pseudo-secular diatribe?

Is this the first coalition government that Manmohan Sangh is heading? If that is the logic, why did the previous coalition governments did not fall into such credibility crisis?

Is this the first time that we have 'scoundrels' in the parliament. If even Deve Gowdas and Gujrals could handle that, how does that reflect on MMS's capabilities.

What kind of pressure from coalition or 'scoundrels' forced him to anoint Pratibha aunty, Chawla sir and Uncle Thomas on this tightrope democracy?

MMS is a morally deficient gutless technocrat, thrust on this nation my the gandhi family. The gandhi family has abused every institution in this country. Sonia Gandhi after making MMS the PM of this nation, took away all the powers that a PM enjoys by not providing the political legitimacy that a PM should enjoy.

Sonia's "inner voice" was to enjoy power without responsibility and to keep the PM seat warm for her son Rahul Gandhi. She thrust a gutless PM on India and people in India enthralled by the performance of MMS as a good finance minister and a good technocrat gave him good response in his first term. All the corruption in his first term under the able guidance of the PM got brushed aside till the shit hit the ceiling. After the shit hit the ceiling there was no getting away from the game.

Now we are in the situation where MMS has been dragged through the muck, Sonia and Rahul Gandhi have been exposed and a directionless government in panic mode. The India story is under danger we need a change immediately. The government needs to resign and ask for polls and get people's approval once again before proceeding as this government has lost all legitimacy to rule India

"Many Singhs: just to name V P Singh, Arjun Singh, Digvijay Singh, MMS are loyal to corruption figure head and sustain their lives." - VIMAL

They were all nationalists of the highest order to begin with.

1. But, VP Singh was drugged into crassness by Munusamy and his Mandal gang.

2. As for the others, some skull-cap fanatics started changing their surname from Singh to Sangh. Hence, they were enticed to the wrong path.

One of the skull-cap representatives also hovers around on Outlook 24*7. Even though he keeps calling everyone a Sanghi, he doesn't really mean it; his agenda is to convert others to pseudo-secularism.

 good expose

 Ms Madhu Kishwar's article is revealing in truth and I entirely agree with her. I also commend her for being able to openly express the thoughts unlike the general media, both print and video. Well done, lady. Hope others in the media wake up to this truth!

 Madhu Kishwar is an original thinker and a brave one at that.

Having no politics a part from nationalism she often states unpalatable counter mainstream truths.

I have often expressed my admiration for her and today stand vindicated.

Two personalities Mr Rahul Gandhi and Mrs Sonia Gandhi appear to be the darlings of the media and they can lose elections and their proteges can be hauled up by CAG and CBI and yet the media dare not question them. My submission is as follows:

1. Mrs Sonia Gandhi gave a brief TV bite soon after the Bihar election results and after congratulating Mr Nitish Kumar she went on to say that the Congress was trying to build the grass roots in Bihar and as a long term strategy it went solo. Then she commented on the fact that her party was the only one to take action on its members who were found under a cloud, meaning - Mr Natwar Singh, Mr Ashok Chavan, Mr Kalmadi and Mr Raja. She also lambasted BJP for shielding Mr Yeddyurappa.

As a follow up none in the media has raked up the core issue of "why so many scams are being unearthed(the loan scam being the latest)". Majority of the scams are from the Congress stable. Is the Congress only to react when a scam is unearthed. Should not the Congress be proactive and take the bull by the horns and order internal enquiries of all major decisions and book the culprits. Is the Congress' cupboard full of skeletons and therefore they are afraid to rake up the muck.

2. Again, Mrs Sonia Gandhi gave a TV bite on the 2G scam and lambasted the opposition on dragging the Prime Minister's name and said that the PM was a person of the highest integrity and 100% honest.

This statement begs a follow up issue. If not the PM who, above Mr Raja are involved. Again, none in the media has taken up this issue and played it safe by not dragging the Congress President or the DMK President into the controversy.

These two instances make me think that Mrs Gandhi is handled with kid gloves by the media.

3. Mr Rahul Gandhi failed miserably in Bihar elections and all the media people debated the issue and the sycophants defended the indefensible. It is a wonder why the media did not get a sound bite from the man himself. Again, whenever you talk of Mr Rahul Gandhi it is as though he is the only choice of Prime Minister. When it comes to other parties and there could be some aspirants, then they are shown with a lot of derision.

We see the Presidents of almost all the parties being questioned by the media except one President and one General Secretary.

This makes me feel that the media handles Mr Rahul Gandhi with kid gloves.

Would Mr Vinod Mehta now take on the mantle of belling the tigress and her cub now that Ms Kishwar has targeted the meek cat.

 I suspect Outlook has more dirt on MMS from Radia tapes which it will be releasing soon. That seems to be the reason it has boldly published this fantastic article. To claim, I was the first to say so openly.

So much corruption is going on in every inch of India and no one dares to report on it in any main stream media. It is a pity that brave soldiers lost their lives trying to save these politicians' lives during the Parliamentary attack. I dont agree that 2G is the mother of all scams. It is just 1 among the many such atrocities.There must be many many such horrid things going on in every department,ministry,state,district,panchayat,election. I know personally how poor people are bribed in broad daylight during every Tamil Nadu elections by DMK. It is such an open secret. I voted for a person who has filed many cases in TN for peoples welfare and all he got was 2500 votes! I am ashamed I am not doing anything about all these things. But one thing MMS surely has got: HONOUR among thieves! Shame.

Wish more ordinary mortals in India could read thro' this excellent piece from Ms.Madhu. But in the present day India lorded over by the Corrupt politicians and bureaucrats , very few would take time or have the inclination to read factual statements. As correctly stated by the author, one fails to understand why MMS should be eulogised like this when he has let down the nation so miserably by being only a Soniacentric sycophant!! Although we do not expect him to be another Nitish Kumar, he can atleast take a few lessons from him on good governance. Let us hope and pray that MMS gets enlightenment and think about putting nation's interest first before the interests of his corrupt coterie of politicians and bureaucrats!!

Congrats to Outlook for daring to publish this article . 

Vinod Mehta will be the greatest patriot if he can put a team to trace the money trail,from 2G scam,CWG scam,Adarsh scam and so on.Both Raja and T.R.Baalu are closely linked to the powerful evangelists in Tamil Nadu and a large chunk of the loot could have been diverted to these anti-Hindu forces.Likewise a cohort of Raja,Sadik Basha may have links to Dawood Ibrahim.Sonia and Rahul visiting US during this period,ostensibly to visit the senior Mrs Maino is also suspect.Already Sonia is doing everything to divert the attention of the nation from these scams by making the gullible to asemble in large numbers at Delhi for her 65th birthday,wearing T-shirts with slogan 'our guide is mother Sonia'.This reminds the days of 'Indira is India'She has already asked her congis to spread the message to mean that it is her money for NREGs etc.With every appointee from the President downwards being her selection,a new avatar of emergency can be round the corner.

Manmohan singh is the BIGGEST YES MAN of India. His raise to PM SHIP is entairely due to his capability to "please his bose" and be an YES MAN.
Whatever he did as Finance secretary he undid as the Govenor of Reserve Bank of India.
What ever he did as the Governor of Reserve bank of India was undone when he was the Finanace Minister of India.
As PM- less said the better- MMS has been the biggest FLOP PM OF INDIA.

MMS was NEVER elected as the PM but selected as PM. His inability to get elected to LOK SABHA was the biggest + POINT for his selection a PM- and we all know who selected him. So MMS has the responsibilty  to protect his boss.

I would forgive Dr MMS if had stolen few crores of Rupees but I will never forgive him for making us accept corruption as a way of life. The damage is too huge and will take decades and generations to recover.
ken
stlouis, United States
 

He is a recluse who does not steal but allows a dynasty who with help of (ultra-nationalists super corrupt) SINGHs destroys a wonder called INDIA. In return maintains his position.

No wonder we need modern day "Parshuram" to free this world from Singhs!!

 Advani was correct - Manmohan is the weakest PM we ever had. He has never acted on corrupt ministers.Shame on UPA 2. Let us not fall for 'What can Integrity Singh do? He is only a puppet'.  Let the bl*&@ puppet resign and show some spine. 

You should also add the crores of public money he regularly gifts to the innumerable Sonia and family owned trusts, foundations, 'libraries' etc since the time he was a Finance Minister under Narasimha Rao.

Agree with several others that this is undoubtedly one of the few articles that brings the spotlight where it should be - on Manmohan Singh. Knowingly looking the other way makes him complicit in corruption, just as it makes Narendra Modi complicit in the Gujarat Genocide.

But, then again, what is to be expected from a PM and polity obsessed with 10% GDP growth rate. That's all they want - double digit growth. And, the fastest and easiest way (not the only way) to get there on an ANNUAL basis is to sell off public resources, pubic goods, and break down social and labor protection institutions. 

So, in that sense Manmohan Singh is our own version of Mr. 10% (whichever way you interpret it.) Hamara 10% - sirf hamara!

I do congratulate the Outlook team, Vinod Mehta and Madhu Kishwar for being so vocal on matters of corruption, not just in our politics but also in our media. However, I am cautious in giving such accolades as many of us, your readers, will also lose all faith in you if we see business as usual return, i.e., post-dinner burping and punditry with Barkha Dutt, Vir Sanghvi, Rajdeep Sardesai, et al every other night.

Please boycott BIG DISHONEST MEDIA! It starts with you!

There are many better mediums and forums from where you are and you will be heard. Thanks!

First of all milllion of thanks to the journalist and editor.Journalism at its best,at the peak,at the heaven...............I do't have words to express my happiness after reading such kind of article which expressed truth at its best lgical,coherent manner.

I truly believe "fish rots from it's head",and watching the current SCAMs in India i find we don't need a man of words ,we need a man who is capable to take action against all these kind of rotten heads..Though MMS may be a man of words but where is action barring few incidents(can be said as mostly eyewashes).

Though i do't hate MMS ,So now time has come so that i 'll see some of the rotten heads rolling in 10 Janpath street.............

once again i wish such kind of articles should be published very often to give kicks those have gone for hibernation......

 Recent public / TV debates on transparency for accountability:

1. How can we stamp out corruption? Published On: October 23, 2010

With corruption hitting the headlines due to CWG, we discuss whether corruption can be eradicated from our country.

http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/the-big-fight/how-can-we-stamp-out-corruption/171466

2. Our honorable MPs Salary slip Vs Report Card – 04 OCT 2010

http://www.ndtv-hindu.com/features/chennai-speaks-out/2010/oct/04/132/our-honorable-mps-salary-slip-vs-report-card

3. Battle of Ideas - Satellite Events 2010 on ‘A new technological democracy?’ Nov 23, 2010 of Institute of Ideas, London.

http://battleofideas.org.uk/index.php/2010/session_detail/4591/
http://battleofideas.org.uk/index.php/2010/speaker_detail/5439/

4. NDTV-HINDU - Chennai Speaks Out - "IS THE BATTLE AGAINST CORRUPTION A KNEE JERK REACTION OR A SUSTAINED CAMPAIGN?"

http://www.ndtv-hindu.com/features/chennai-speaks-out/2010/dec/12/166/is-the-battle-against-corruption-a-knee-jerk-reaction-or-a-sustained-campaign

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 I love the "The False Claims Act" or "Lincoln Law" in USA:

"The False Claims Act (31 U.S.C. § 3729–3733, also called the "Lincoln Law") is an American federal law that allows people who are not affiliated with the government to file actions against federal contractors they accuse of committing claims fraud against the government. The act of filing such actions is informally called "whistleblowing." Persons filing under the Act stand to receive a portion (usually about 15–25 percent) of any recovered damages. The Act provides a legal tool to counteract fraudulent billings turned in to the federal government. Claims under the law have been filed by persons with insider knowledge of false claims that have typically involved health care, military, or other government spending programs. The government has recovered nearly $22 billion under the False Claims Act between 1987 (after the significant 1986 amendments) and 2008".

Why not follow a similar Law in India?

Is it so difficulat to be honest and clean?

It appears so.

Regards,

Naresh

Madhu has simply drawn our attention to the 'emperor's clothes'. People who knew of these clothes were being dubbed 'Sanghies' all this while. Madhu may be the next in line.

When Advani described MMS as 'Nikamma', he was euphemistic. It is unbelievable that the PM has still not chosen to bare his mind to the people about the whole affair. Shows that he does not feel obliged to do so since he is not an elected member of the house - not by the people. It is also strange that this man of great 'personal integrity' is instrumental in appointing tainted persons to practically every high public office. Or is he being blackmailed ???

 You too MMS?

MMS is an honest man, and a man of great integrity. However, India expects more out of her PM than merely honesty and integrity. The zeal with which he was pursuing the Nuclear deal is gone, infact that was the only time he seemed to be in charge. There have been so many cases of corruption in the recent times, most of them emanating from the Congress, and your hardly hear anything from him which assures the people of this country that action will be taken against the culprits. CBI raiding Raja's house after almost a year that the scan has ben unearthed shows that this govt has a sense of humour, but unfortunately the joke is on us. Sure Kalmadi, Raja, Ashok Chawan have resigned, but is that enough? Shouldnt there be criminal cases against them? Merely saying that they have resigned while BJP's Yedi hasnt wont help, if people of this country were happy with BJP, then it wont be sitting in the opposition. A man of real integrity would have accepted responsibility for all these scams and taken toughest possible action, and not these cosmetic actions just to put there noses ahead of the BJP. I was a big fan of MMS, bad sadly Mr PM, you failed the nation

Drama all around !!  It is too obvious now that PM knew everything but wanted to keep Madam and his team happy by allowing them to loot. If a captain of a team gets the credit for a trophy then he must also be ready to take the brickbats.

MMS !!! your martyr drama is getting too painful. You are definately one of India weakest PMs. Most of India's economic gains since 1991 have happened inspite of the Government so Congress cannot take any credit.They have been the beneficiary of an indifferent electorate. But watch this space in 2014.

I am sure what is going to follow is resignation drama. Get set folks!!! The nation is going through tough times just when the going was good and we were the flavor of Asia!!

Finally somebody got the guts to call a spade "a spade". 

 Clearly,PM`s image has darkened after all this.But other than Manmohan singhji who is fit  for the PM post.Honestly speaking, to remain in the PM post and do good to the Nation ,one will have to compromise on certain issues..,,..for this is INDIA ..Or else GOD himself has to come and rule. There are many persons of impeccable integrity outside politics like Abdul Kalam,Kiran Bedi etc... why dont they enter politics????? even if they enter politics they wont race straight to PM post unless they flex on some matter or other..But ,I will magree on the fact that ,sparing MMS,A.K Antony & Chidambaram its rotting in aviation ,health, environment & all other ministeries.If next regime ,happens to be UPA3 it will surely prove detrimental to our Nation.

I say we should listen to Dr Jayaprakash Narayan more seriously.
This guy seems to have few solutions.

Can I expect an article on him in near future?

#44 - "This makes me feel that the media handles Mr Rahul Gandhi with kid gloves."

After Barkhagate, any doubts in this regard may be put to rest. Not just that the media handles some with kid gloves but why.

Sonia chose MMS as the PM in UPA1 because she knows he is not a politician but he will act as an employee of  sonia. She chose him because she was sure that like any other politician he doesn't know politics. If she has awarded the role to any one other than MMS he would have broke the party or will have his own followers. People know that he will act as a rubber stamp of Sonia. What ppl didn't expect is he will act as rubber stamp of each and every minister. That is what is hurting us. See the ways in which Raja brushed aside the comments from PM. No doubt all the ministers have done the same. Shame on MMS. He is not a honest man, if he is he would have resigned long back.

 " who insist on turning a blind eye to the distinction between being corrupt and being circumvented and overwhelmed! "

If Integrity Singh was overwhelmed, then he has no business continuing in office anymore. If this is the best defense his staunchest supporter can come up with, he is a much worse PM than I thought.

This is one of the best articles I have read on Integrity Singh.

 im shocked to read this. V V true this has opened my eyes & for that matters billions of indians. Great work Madhu. Keep the clothes off these corruput people & importantly in efficent incompetent PM who has allowed these bastards to grow & pop up

 Today anybody talking against the Prime minister is automatically construed to be a minstrel of the sangh. This sophisticated auto-blowback  may indeed be one of the greatest PR tricks pulled by the M Singh government. You hand it over to his government for this alone.

He is the " mask"for the corrupt Congress party

Out Prime Minister too is criminally liable for having allowed 2G spectrum scam resulting in a loss of 1.76 lakh crore to the public exchequer. He must quit office.

I agree with most of the observations made against MMS, even the comparison with Gowda, however much I hate Gowda even today for making India into a laughing stock in the outside world. But then again, I would like all of you to remember the clowns we had as PMs, Charan Singh, Chandra Sekhar, VP Singh, Gujral etc. I would also ask the people, were this kind of scandals, big or small, any less in the time of Morarji, Indira, Rajiv, Vajpayee? What I would like ask is when was our PM's office not corrupt if we apply the definitions of Ms. Madhu Kishwar? I am sure all of you will come and argue one was less than the other. Is it OK to be less corrupt than the other or should we have one absolutely clean like Mr. Nanda, who served us for only 20-25 days in total. Who knows, he might have joined the list of corrupt people, if he served more days! Show me one person in India, who is clean and can bring all the regional and splinter parties ( who have no ideology except self promotion) on line, dole things big and small to keep everyone happy, keep the 'mushroom growth' political pundits (who can write few lines with catchy slogans) and pretty face 'talking heads' on TV happy, cope with all and every idiot who wants to break the country into smaller and smaller parts so that he can become a CM and his wife, son, son-in-law, and his pet dog as deputy CMs, keep an eye on every and single politician, army chief, SC judge, movie star and sports star, who want to grab a flat in the tallest building closest to the beach, grab every inch of Govt. land in one name or other for few rupees and rent back to Govt. for few thousand rupees per month, every religious character who wants to announce his 'God' is better and bigger than the other' but still need special protection from the Govt. and 'other' religious zealots, every 'cast' leader who wants to be declared as 'more backward' than the other 'backward' guy to grab a job, college seat and land, every communist who sends 'own' children to US for education and IT job in Microsoft, Google, Intel etc. but rants and raves against 'Obama support for the Nuclear Treaty', which we desperately beg US to grant , every ‘gun totting’ revolutionary in India who wants to overthrow the corrupt capitalistic country but loots, destroys, butchers, rapes, murders fellow poor and innocent people in the name of ideology, all these ‘neo intellectual writers’ seek and get attention and awards for their writings from western world but denounce the same as ‘exploiters and instigators of, murders and rapes by the ‘poor freedom fighters’ etc. etc. etc. etc. If you can come up with one name, one single name, including yours, I have a building bigger and more beautiful than 'TajMahal' in my backyard and I will give it to you free.

Thanks to the main stream Indian media to allow the author to express her honest view.  Only two types of people will oppose her view - 1) those who are vested interest (corrupted media, bureaucrats, businessmen etc. and criminal politicians); 2) a vast ignorant (who are not politically aware due to media corruption) and indifferent (only cares about own interest) common men.

Ganesan,

>> If Integrity Singh was overwhelmed, then he has no business continuing in office anymore.

That is for the coalition to decide. You had no problem with your hero who attacked Iraq with his WMD lies and who for eight years acted like a deer caught in the headlights!

>> one of the best articles I have read on Integrity Singh.

She has just summed up your own smear campaign of the past five years!

This article show one sided view/alignment of the author. The decesions taken by PM can not be seen as white or black. For ex... He may have overlooked 2G goings on in order to achieve more crucial national security victories like Nuclear deal.

What good option would he have had if Omar Abdula had resigned. The victory would have been separatisits.

He is required to pick his lieutinents from what is available. Mosty of us are corrupt or shallow beyond repair.

The only role that opposition play is to criticize every decesion govt take. They will forget 2G or anything else once they come to power.

>> Integrity Singh .. has no business continuing in office anymore.

Assuming that you are given the choice, whom would you appoint in his place?

>> The only role that opposition play is to criticize every decesion govt take.

It is probably worse than that. What we are seeing is that the accused parties are playing a drama in the name of JPC etc without facing parliament debate. They probably dont want the accusations go on record, so that it is will be easier to forget later on.

 "Assuming that you are given the choice, whom would you appoint in his place?" - Kumar

The options aren't aplenty, but not a null either. There are better options available in names like Narendra Modi, Pranab Mukherjee. Nitish Kumar, Arun Jaitley, Rahul Gandhi. We need leaders, not 'dealers'. Jaitley and Rahul may be raw for the post, but till now they have shown reasonable maturity to justify the risk.

 MMS has put his soul to do the bidding for sonia

how can he have the "Dard" for india

A nice insightful, probing and bold article !