I think root cause of the problem is the business model followed by the Ambanis since its inception - which is based on corruption and buying out people at all levels. Unfortunately the success of Ambani group is encouraging the new breeds to follow the same path - easiest way to make money.
Regarding these tapes, one can easily get a feeling how frustrated and let down the Tata group is by the unprofessional tactics adopted by these corrupt business houses. They had to 1) either follow their footsteps of greasing everyone who comes in the way or 2) handle the situation as professionally - the way business is done in a new age - or 3) sit quiet just to see the great Tata empire being eaten by the greedy businessmen and politicians. They choose the second option - which by no means is unethical.
We should be proud that India is home to groups like Tata - which have maintain a certain amount of integrity, ethics and consumer centricity in doing their business, else we would have all fallen prey to parasites like Ambani brothers. We atleast have some good stories to passs on to the next generations
Just a passing thought – suddenly there is a mad rush to produce a cheapest car in the world after Ratan Tata made it a success, was it not making a business sense ? Why did nobody produce world’s cheapest and most efficient water purifier in the world ? I think no amount of tapes can undo the great contribution this group is doing to the Indian society – and yes they will make money – they need to run their business.
Pardon my French but, I *^%**^ love Outlook for this! Well Done.
Private does not mean secret! WikiLeaks proves Right to information is sarcosant for democracy. Ratan Tata is just delaying the inevitable- skeletons off the closet.
Never going to buy a Tata product again.
and lets stop wanking about the reddy brothers and yedurappa, if proved will step down no doubt, yedurappa is doing a lot more then any one can do.
The aforesaid is your defence for Yedurappa. At least the Congress gave the marching order to the former Maharashtra Chief Minister, Ashok Chavan for the Mumbai apartments for war veterans’ scam on suspicion of his involvement. Shouldn’t the BJP have asked Yedurappa to stand down as chief minister on suspicion as well? If it is good for Ashok Chavan to stand down on suspicion, shouldn’t have Yedurappa stood down as well for political propriety? As akin to if it is good for the goose, it should also be good for the gander.
The BJP is pontificating to the Congress about corruption while protecting its corrupt ones like a mother hen is protecting her chicks under her wings. What humbug!
The BJP seems to be one big happy family-stay together as venal as ever until death does them apart.
congress has corruption printed all over ...everything they do ...look at common wealth ...
corruption at best, nehru ji fooled all of us, the preamble to freedom says we are part of a larger dominion, thankfully no longer it is possible to achieve, but it was there :)
how do you expect young indians to come ahaed when rahul g is sitting at the top of the food chain...
and lets stop wanking about the reddy brothers and yedurappa, if proved yedurappa will step down no doubt, yedurappa is doing a lot more then any one can do. he looks humble and good person. Dont say that you will take actions only if other party does take. Even when people are discussing congress's loss and nitish's win, people are brining out the yedurappa and reddy skeletons, shame on congress. Where were your ethics when you supported JMM leaders support and support of Mulayam singh or infact any one. They take support of DMK which supports LTTE openly even though RG was killed by LTTE :O
Lets be fair enuf and say yes to politics like that of nitish, who does the work comes into power. If bihar can do that every one in India can do that too. Whether its BJP, congress or any one else, there should be one motto for us, if you do work you stay else leave. All politicans over the world are corrupt , no doubt about it. But they do some work. Politicians in US are known to have greater nexus with Business then any where else. Any us guy can confirm that, but they all work within acceptable limits of law and do something good for country as well. motto for indian politicians should be " I am eating, I will eat but I will do at the best of my abilities for the country and its people so that people elect me again an again and remember me for my good work and not my eating habbits"
The nexus between media and politicians is not a new thing but the level to which it is, is a surprise to everyone. First congratulate outlook for bringing the correct image of UPA govt and the high profile journalists out in open. We knew something was wrong when a news channel covers more on film stars and whats happening inside big boss house when there are riots happening in sri nagar. Nothing new. But now it looks like that journalism will become a better business then politics itself if it continues to grow at the same rate. Now the credibility of all the journalist involved is lost including there co workers. When Bihar election results came som channels were still wondering about the Sas bahu serials. This is an alarm for people and they shoudl realise that if we live in our fears that we should not give any other party a chance cause they can bring disharmony to india should realise that soon our hard earned money which we pay as tax will go out of india in some swiss bank and/or in hands of few people. India has lost 70 lac crores of rs after britishers left, enuf to create 70 reliances and it wont be a surprise if I say that at least 70% went outside when congress was ruling? since they ruled for more then 70% of time? Lets be fare that congress has looted india more then any one else. Gandhi ji himself resigned from congress and never held a post in congress?? ever imagnined why??
Lets not get off the track and the educated minister looks far more dangerous then the uneducated if we look at the level of scam. Apni akal lagao dikhao par mat jaao ..next time when you see a journalist making a claim, make sure that you use your own wits. One more example, when bihar results came some journalist started asking if BJP-RJD bonds can break, poor BJP fellows were left to imagined with how 91 seats they can split the alliance in bihar :)
If the Al-Qaida, L-e-T, Taliban gang are reading all this, they must be packing away their bombs and guns and getting ready to take a long vacation. It's just dawned on them that this poor country is going to disintegrate anyway... it does not need any RDX to lend a helping hand.
Coming up next --- it's not a spectrum or natural gas that's up for auction... it's India... and it's going... going...
See No Evil, Hear No Evil, Do no evil attitude is not a defence Prime minister, Manmohan Singh, or, for that matter, Sonia Gandhi, president of the Congress Party, whose utterance- ''Our economy may increasingly be dynamic, but our moral universe seems to be shrinking,"-is meaningless unless action is taken to weed out corruption form her grand old political party-the congress party. She and Manmohan Singh is rare breed of politicos of Indian politics beyond reproach of venality. That is an admirable quality; their party is riddled with corruption of monumental proportion. Dr. Martin Luther King, Junior’s quote is very apt in this regard: To ignore evil is to become an accomplice. "All that needs to happen for evil to prevail is that good men do nothing”.
Strangely, Manmohan Singh’s stint as Prime Minister has seen more scams than any of his predecessors. Prime Minister for six years and India's great economic reformer in his former post as finance minister, is universally held to be incorruptible. A clean leader is a necessary condition to create a clean government but it is not a sufficient condition for Manmohan Singh who is saddled with a coalition government with the most corrupt elements-among others, the DMK- not to mention his own corrupt congress party leaders. DMK leader, Karunanidhi, is the godfather of Indian political corruption and his recent splurging on 30 crores of Indian rupees for his grandson’s wedding has served to enhance this. Opulent and ostentatious wedding! Where did the30 crores of Indian rupees come from? Where did the staggering moolah, other than from venality, of course, come from? Going to bed with his party, the DMK, to have a coalition government show how morally bankrupt the Congress Party and the so called ‘Mr Clean’ image’ Manmohan Singh has become.
A clean leader is a necessary condition to create a clean government but it is not a sufficient condition. The solution to endemic corruption requires an entire system, a set of institutions and social attitudes, not a "great leader" or a band of heroes.
2G scam: Of the 122 licences issued, 85 are marked as suspect. The $40 billion is the value lost to taxpayers in licence fees. It's breathtaking even by Indian standards, equivalent to a quarter of the national tax revenue for the year. The scale of the fraud is only one of three striking aspects of the 2G scandal, so called because the licences were for second-generation mobile phone services.
Corruption has patently reached so high a level in the Indian system. Indians are feeling a sense of being overpowered, indifferent and immune because it represents not a sudden outbreak of corruption but the third big public scandal in rapid succession. The 2 G scam is hot on the heels of other scams like- corruption in the construction of Commonwealth Games venues and Mumbai where apartments for war veterans and widows were corruptly allocated to powerful politicians and their families. The causality for the Mumbai apartments for war veterans’ scam was the scalp of the Maharashtra Chief Minister, Ashok Chavan.
World’s fastest growing economies like China and India are endemic with corruption of varying kinds. It seems corruption alone does not preclude rapid economic growth where India is growing at single digit-9 precent-while China is growing at double digits.
As akin to a terrorist has no religion, corrupt politicians have not belonged to a single political party but, it seems, they are everywhere in all political parties as well and corruption has become a scourge on the Indian political edifice. India's media and parliament are convulsed and enraged by corruption, points to the best hope for curing it. It is a cure that is not available to China. I really doubt it. Clamouring for action against corruption by opposition parties in the Lok Sabha and braying for the Prime Minister’s blood is sheer hypocrisy- so many corrupt parliamentarians are among themselves in the political parties clamouring for action against the 2 G spectrum scam in the Lok Sabha as akin to thieves are on board the ship. The BJP dichotomy-braying for the Prime Minister’s blood on the 2G spectrum scandal while protecting the charges of irregularities in land allotment favouring his family members by Karnataka Chief Minister B S Yeddyurappa. Moreover, BJP’s Reddy brothers are corrupt up to their neck. The TV footage of one of the Reddy brothers offering bribe to a Karnataka governor’s assistant to have Chief Minister B S Yeddyurappa’s government dismissed is only a tip of the iceberg of political corruption. It has shed light on the endemic political corruption deep rooted in the Indian polity. The BJP’s holier than thou attitude has now exposed.
No sooner did the Pandora’s Box of corruption on 2G spectrum allocation open than people did involve in the scam are coming out like worms. Participating in the auction of 2G spectrum allocations is a group of powerful individuals, corporate houses, lobbyists, bureaucrats and journalists. Niira Radia, a lobbyist whose clients include the Tatas and Mukesh Ambani’s Reliance Industries Ltd. They all have varying interests in several key sectors such as telecom, petroleum and natural gas where the republic of India is now on sale for the highest bidder. The proceeds from the sale, it seems, have gone to the pockets of the corrupt telecommunication minister, Raja and his benefactors, not to the pockets of Indian earthlings who, by and large, are living in abject poverty. It is a crime against Indian earthlings. People who have involved in the 2G spectrum scam, wittingly or unwittingly, are guilty. Unwittingly guilty are the ones who have connivance of the scam and did nothing to stop it. Wittingly guilty are the ones who have syphoned off 40 billion dollars’ worth of moolah which would have alleviated the abject poverty of the Indian earthlings who are at the bottom of Indian social ladder. The thieves are the charlatans-the ugly Indians- have plenty to be ashamed about and nothing to be proud of-apart from the loot has fattened their bank balances. I am an admirer of the Indian Prime Minister, Manmohan Singh who has catapulted the Indian economy into the big league: developed economies. In India’s case only the second fastest growing economy that is destined to be the developed economy status in time. He, or, for that matter, Sonia Gandhi cannot absolve from responsibilities of this grand theft and other thefts of staggering proportions at the expense of Indian earthlings. While their inaction, the thieves with their loot laughed all the way to their banks.
The Indian parliament-both houses-is constantly held to ransom by various parliamentarians for their frivolous reasons. It happens at sickening regularity even after the speaker get assurance from the opposition parties to the smooth functioning of the parliament prior to the parliament session commence. The speaker is helpless and for the smooth functioning of the parliament and the speaker should be empowered to have the disruptive parliamentarians evicted from the parliament for the day. Indian citizenry are not getting value for money that they pay for their politicos-a staggering amount of money after the recent hefty pay rises. Every political party has criminals and under trials are in their parliamentarian stock. Most of them are illiterate and the motivations to become parliamentarians are on self-interest: feathering their nest with moolah aplenty. Mayawati and Karunanidhi are loadstar of this. Both had humble beginning. The former was a teacher and the latter a script writer for Tamil movies. Both have amassed wealth far beyond their imagination. As it says you paid for the things you have bought; Indians voted for the politicos they have.
India should have a powerful corruption watchdog with powers to bring to book anyone on the public purse is corrupt. The body should be under the purview of the Indian President to be free from beholden to the government of the day. The present disruption of the parliament and the opposition parties clamouring for JPC on the 2G spectrum scam is meaningless. The outcome of the JPC will be questioned by the government as not objective and as subjective-biased. There will be differing JPC reporting-government parliamentarians differ with the opposition parliamentarians. In the end both will be squabbling over each other’s reporting.
The solution to endemic corruption requires an entire system-the judiciary, the legislators, the executives, not to mention the long arm of the law, to say nothing of the bureaucracy-need a complete overhaul. Moreover, social attitudes have to be changed with zero tolerance for corruption. Young Indians have to come forward to take charge of Indian political system with zero tolerance for corruption by eschewing the old corrupt politicos- to be pensioned off to the political sunsets. Then there is hope for a better India rid of venality for the next generation. Again, then venality will only be etched in their distant memory as something their grandfathers accustomed to do.
As The Wizard of Oz taught us, you never know what you will find when you go behind the curtain.
Where are you when we need you?
The point is that the Indian story is OVER. I hope all of these immoral and corrupt dogs deserve the pain they should get for frauding India. Unbelievable! Even the Tatas... why?? For what?? All for money.
You can use Quicktime to hear the audio files, by the way.
jist click on the line that appears on your screen Ken and it starts the audio.
Download Google Chrome and get the WM plug in that is required to play the files. Downloading does not help
What the hell is going on? This dis-integration of moral character, who would like to watch news or read newspaper now since all seems to be in the mud pit. Just like candidates during elections, it seems we will have to choose the least bad journalists/ writers from the worst. This is a heavy price of soft approach towards corruptions, favorism. God bless India !
But no one talks about gas originally discovered by ONGC in 90's
Ah the Secular Journalists and the Secular Govt...If only the BJP can kick Yeddy in karnataka...May be Just maybe dome heads would roll..
This is like watching how sausage is made!
Help wanted - Does anyone know how to open these audio files? I get a blank html page. Tryed saving and that doesn't work either
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