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The Nizam's legacy-reeling under the weight of its own grandeur, family squabbles, neglect and greed-springs to life again bit by bit


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Mar 03, 2008
Walletful of Legacy
I would like to congratulate the first wife of the Nizam of Hyderabad on a labour of love well completed (Princess to the Rescue, Feb 18). No doubt, it was a long, stressful process for Turkish-born Princess Ersa. It’s also important to acknowledge that she spent from her own pocket for the restoration when she could’ve easily sent the money out of the country—even if it was only part of the settlement. And, all this at a time when modern Indian culture is marked only by selfishness and greed. William Dalrymple too deserves kudos for the brilliant write-up.
Annakali Ray, London
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1/D-2
Feb 10, 2008
12:01 AM


The Nizam was a muslim and this contributed in no small measure to his decimation by the Hindu Indian state.

His religious beliefs are to be blamed for his troubles and indeed, many of the Indian states troubles too.




Parthasarathy B
Chennai, India
2/D-9
Feb 11, 2008
12:02 AM
Even today, this so-called Nizam of Hyderabad, sees himself as totally Turkish, not Indian, and so are his progeny. Why then are they still given such adulation and attention - like the last Moghul 'emperor', who was exiled to Burma by the Brits, Nehru should have thrown the bastards out and confiscated their properties as enemy combatants, when he took 'police' action against this Turkish interloper - the erstwhile so-called Nizam of Hyderabad.
When he and his fellow Muslims ruled this land, they did exactly as they pleased against the Hindus - now that the tables are turned, they should expect the same - it's only fair.
Bodh
Springfield, United States
3/D-16
Feb 11, 2008
12:03 AM
I would like to congratulate the princess on a labour of love well completed. It was no doubt a long stressful process to be undertaken at her age and after a long life lived outside the country.

I also think it is important i the light of previous comments made, to acknowledge that the princess spent her own money for this restoration project, money she could easily have sent out of the country - even if it was only a part of the settlement, its still laudable - especially in the context of a culture in India that today understands nothing beyond petty, selfish greed.

The sense of history, nostalgia, roots, our rich cultural diversity, our aesthetic uniqueness, love of imagination, enjoyment of our multicultural heritage is completely missing today - which is why restoration projects are rarely undertaken in this country on a private basis.

I hope the princess and her son will meet with some of that old Hyderabadi courtesy and sophistication in their visits there. And know that we are not all as uncivilized as the posters here.

ANd finally, the Nizams were really no worse than the Rajasthani rulers - and the Hindu king of Kashmir also wanted to be independent.

Her gesture is well received. Thank you to Mr. Dalrymple too for his labours of love for this country, there are some ordinary middle class readers here who appreciate the extent of your labour and your love for India - my grandmother for example.
Annakali Ray
London, United Kingdom
4/D-23
Feb 11, 2008
12:04 AM
Annakali forgets to mention that there was a bloody Islamic, Al-Qaeda like terrorist movement that engulfed Hyderabad in 1948, and needed a stern Indian police/army action to put it down.
Varun Shekhar
Toronto, CANADA
5/D-29
Feb 11, 2008
12:05 AM
What is old Hyderabadi courtesy btw?
chaitanya
chennai, India
6/D-14
Feb 12, 2008
12:06 AM
“The sense of history, nostalgia, roots, our rich cultural diversity, our aesthetic uniqueness, love of imagination, enjoyment of our multicultural heritage is completely missing today” UTTER BULLSHIT.

Try telling this to Telangana Hindu’s, the crimes committed by Razakar marauders are well known, The Hyderabad Nizam is a self-centric bastard.
Remembrance of this Gory dynasty brings back atrocious memories.
Jai-Tej
Dubai, United Arab Emirates
7/D-22
Feb 13, 2008
12:07 AM
I don't shed even a single tear for the financially incompetent and self-indulgent Nizam family. However, I grieve for the monumental loss of history--correspondence, documents, art, buildings etc in the narrow sense, but the life of the ruled (and the rulers) in the broader sense.
Augustus aaa
Pune, India
8/D-28
Feb 16, 2008
12:08 AM
Shiva/Bodepudi,

>> Hindus, Buddhists, Jains and Sikhs (Indics) believe in your statement and have had no record of external aggression and genocides.
>> Unfortunately, that's not true of Islam.

Your sanitized and falsified version of history suits your evil agenda of perpetuating hatred. Human species is characterized by intra-species agression, and unvarnished history of humankind is bloody and even gory. You can go on fooling yourself if you want to.
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
9/D-36
Feb 18, 2008
12:09 AM
The two upstart religions, Christianity and Islam can only be spread by the destruction of other religions - invasion and succession, which the Muslims have wrough with a vengeance against Hindus (Al Hind), and no amount of refutations and denials by the Official Islamic refuter and spin doctor will change that, no matter how diligently and strenuously he tries. So give it a rest Faruki sa'ab - take a break.
Bodh
Springfield, United States
10/D-40
Feb 18, 2008
12:10 AM
Bodh,

>> The two upstart religions, Christianity and Islam ....

The proof that your mindset to be full of venom.
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
11/D-43
Feb 18, 2008
12:11 AM
Corrected post :

Bodh,

>> The two upstart religions, Christianity and Islam ....

The proof that your mindset is full of venom.
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
12/D-47
Feb 18, 2008
12:12 AM
Faruki sa'ab - despite you ridiculous efforts at demonizing folks who say anything unflattering of your precious Islam, it's still the Truth! They are both upstart religions and they are both spread by destroying others in order to supplant them - that's The Truth - your strenuous 'intellectual' specious arguments to the contrary notwithstanding. Truth is!
Bodh
Springfield, United States
13/D-51
Feb 18, 2008
12:13 AM
Bodh,

>> efforts at demonizing folks who say anything unflattering of your precious Islam.

Smearing of faith is a game that both sides can play. I choose not to play it.

>> They are both upstart religions.

It can be said that all religions were upstarts when they started. Only small minds can indulge in such arguments.
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
14/D-56
Feb 18, 2008
12:14 AM
Theories About the Origin of Hinduism
From Subhamoy Das
According to historians, the origin of Hinduism dates back to 5,000 or more years. The word "Hindu" is derived from the name of River Indus, which flows through northern India. In ancient times the river was called the 'Sindhu', but the Persians who migrated to India called the river 'Hindu', the land 'Hindustan' and its inhabitants 'Hindus'. Thus the religion followed by the Hindus came to be known as 'Hinduism'.

It was earlier believed that the basic tenets of Hinduism were brought to India by the Aryans who invaded the Indus Valley Civilization and settled along the banks of the Indus river about 2000 BC. However, this theory has now been proved to be a flawed one and is considered nothing more than a myth.

According to scholars, the evolution of Hinduism may be divided into three periods: the ancient (6500 BCE-1000 AD), the medieval (1000-1800 AD), and the modern (1800 AD to present). Hinduism is commonly thought to be the oldest religion in the history of human
civilization.

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Hinduism is unique among the world religions in that it has no founder or date of origin. While most major religions derive from new ideas taught by a charismatic leader, Hinduism is simply the religion of the people of India, which has gradually developed over four thousand years. The origins and authors of its sacred texts are largely unknown.

Although today's Hinduism differs significantly from earlier forms of Indian religion, Hinduism's roots date back as far as 2000 BC, making it one of the oldest surviving religions. Because of its great age, the early history of Hinduism is unclear. The most ancient writings have yet to be deciphered, so for the earliest periods scholars must rely on educated guesses based on archaeology and the study of contemporary texts.

In the last few decades, the history of India's religion has also become a matter of political controversy. The history of any nation (or individual) is an important part of its self-identity, and this is especially true of India, which so recently gained independence after centuries of colonial rule. The controversy over India's history centers on the origin of the Aryan
culture.

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What is Hinduism, BODH?.





Joseph
Karachi, Pakistan
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