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So what is this hullabaloo over the Ram Setu? Were the Sangh parivar the only ones to protest? But how does Lord Rama come into the picture? Why did the ASI not just stick to the available evidence about it being a natural formation?


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1/D-1
Sep 14, 2007
12:01 AM
Is this article encounraging the destruction of the bridge? Let us assume for a moment that the bridge does not have anything to do with Hindu sentiment or Hindu mythology but has something to do with Muslim sentiment or Muslim beliefs. Will the author of this article still stand by what it is stated? I am sure who ever is so much for the destruction of the bridge today is supporting the destruction because it is Hindus who are opposing it and would have backed out if it had anything to do with Muslim beliefs. If it had anything to do with Muslim beliefs, the idea to destory the bridge would probably not have come in the first place at all. That is SECULAR India.
Sastry
St Louis, USA
2/D-6
Sep 14, 2007
12:02 AM
"All such unnecessary rhetoric and bombast and disruption over an issue that needed to be dealt with historical and scientific facts has but was allowed to be hijacked and politicised."

WHo gave the opening to Advani? Was it Togadia?

"That a disgruntled leader of a party, with a clear bankruptcy of issues and ideas to engage with, should move from Ram Janambhumi to Ram Karambhumi shouldn't have surprised anyone."

Very objective in analysis. The congress opens the gate and Advani is the one getting blamed!! What Advani was supposed to have done? Sit in a mat and perform japas using a rosary?
Ganesan
Nj, USA
3/D-8
Sep 14, 2007
12:03 AM
Would some one explain how the natural formation came about in an orderly fashion? That is how come the rocks got all aligned in such a fashion which does suggest a design of some sort? I dont know the science. Can someone explain?
Ganesan
Nj, USA
4/D-12
Sep 14, 2007
12:04 AM
It's quite probable that Rama Setu is a natural structure. However, one cannot scientifically conclude that the available evidence conclusively proves (or disproves) the happenings in the Ramayana. This is especially so if one were to carefully extricate the alleged miracles from the Ramayana. And this is about a story that happened long before we have any records about (ie if it happened).

If one were to logically extend this line of argument, most other religions that are obvious much younger (like those from the Mid East) will have a similar problem. Eg. What's this whole Moses thing all about?

No offence meant. But I guess the reader can see the problems here...

Although I'm no a great fan of the BJP/RSS/VHP, would the ASI (when the occasion arises) say something similar about the relic at Hazratbal, that the devout Muslim believes and reveres as a piece of Muhammad's hair?
photonman
Hyderabad, India
5/D-14
Sep 14, 2007
12:05 AM
Extremely partisan journalism. Journalists must not take sides in discussing issues. This author has written in a manner as if given a chance, outlook would be the propaganda arm for the destruction of the "bridge". There are "opinion" sections meant for authors to express their personal thoughts. Its a pity Outlook allows such people to write.

ALSO, very poor investigations. Even leaving out the religious angle, several people have rightly pointed out the following:

(1) There may not be a seizable number of foreign ships which would be willing to use the canal - bcos it will be a heavily tolled one.
(2) The saving of 30-odd hours in travel has been exaggerated. Ships would have to travel at a much slower speed (thereby reducing only a few hours)in the canal and that would cost precious fuel.
(3) The sea region there is an area of dispute. While India and SriLanka claim it as "territorial", countries like the US claim it as "international". Dredging would allow accessibility to big US military ships as well.
(4) It would allow terrorist organisations like LTTE to freely move arms and drugs in huge quantities as opposed to the small trailers that are currently being used.
(5) S.India which has been relatively insulated from external disturbances will face such a real risk in times of uncertainty - such as war.
(6) Secular environmentalists have expressed their concern about the damage to the fragile ecosystem.
(7) Livelihood of fishermen will be affected. Remember, Christian fishermen are against it.
(8) ABOVE ALL, when there are alternative alignments possible, what is the need to choose just this alignment?
Ashwin
Jersey City, United States
6/D-17
Sep 14, 2007
12:06 AM
Obscene magazine, what nonsense you write! dirty, shameless fellows!
rajkumar
bangalore, India
7/D-21
Sep 14, 2007
12:07 AM
Shiva/Bodepudi,

This article is on Rama Setu. How did it become an excuse for you to spew your usual vicious "hate-Muslims" propaganda? Don't you have any shame at all?
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
8/D-23
Sep 14, 2007
12:08 AM
Great! I understand that this is the official position of Outlook. Not a word to condemn the fact that a government denied the existence of a Hindu God, just loads of criticism for those who stood up to this bullying of the Hindus.

Readers will have the opportunity to refer back to this piece when they tell you, and everyone else, that you are in fact partisan hacks. Not that Outlook cares, but still.
Ankan Kumar
Columbus, USA
9/D-26
Sep 14, 2007
12:09 AM
Shiva, stick to the topic, idiot!
Tabs
Goettingen, germany
10/D-31
Sep 14, 2007
12:10 AM
After long time BJP/RSS got another issue. Ayodhya's Babri Masjid does not pay dividend anymore. But they are missing a vital point here. There is no Mosque or church involved, unfortunately. Then who will be the guinea pig?
This is non-starter from the begining.
Nobody gets offended. Waste of energy.
Rajesh
Phoenix, United States
11/D-35
Sep 14, 2007
12:11 AM
RSS is the best thing in this country. But it is not enough. We need another Gujarat type massacre across the whole country , this time to include the 'secularist' garbage dogs as well.

Not only should Ram Setu never be touched, any person even uttering a nonsensical word against Hindus should be hanged. This needs to be put in the constitution otherwise we dont recognize it.
rajkumar
bangalore, India
12/D-38
Sep 14, 2007
12:12 AM
Rajkumar,

You're advocating the creation of a religious theocratic state. Theocracy is a failed concept like communism. Look at theocratic states around the world and their leaders. We must stick to secularism and democracy. But the definition of "secularism" must be made stronger - by for example - implementing a uniform civil code, removing powers of mullahs to issue fatwas, eradicating case system forever, asking every Indian to swear their allegience to the country first and only then to their religion. But in order to wipe out pseudo-secular forces, it should be stated that the state religion is Hinduism - but retaining the secular fabric - something akin to Malaysia. We need our non-Hindu bretheren. Just that we must remove extremist forces from amongst them and device means to ensure that the current demographics of the nation does not change due to unchecked illegal immigration from across the border or through conversions.
Ashwin
Jersey City, United States
13/D-42
Sep 14, 2007
12:13 AM
If there was no Ram then naturally no Raghu or Rghav and obiously no Sita Ram .Then who were the Dieties in whose praise Bapu ji daily used to chant :

"Raghupati Ragav Raja Ram, Patit Pawn Sita Ram" ?

Can't be Sita Ram Yetchury .Who then ?
a k ghai
mumbai, India
14/D-45
Sep 14, 2007
12:14 AM
Hurriyat backs Ram Sethu, says faith needs no proof.


http://www.indianexpress.com/story/216604.html
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
15/D-47
Sep 14, 2007
12:15 AM
A very stupid and badly written article on a topic that calls for reasoned analysis and debate. The ASI is right when it conducted its analysis and said that "they have not found any incontrovertible proof" of the existence of characters mentioned in the Ramayana - fair enough, in the spirit of scientific enquiry, they have merely said that so far there is an absence of proof, that does not repudiate the possibility of the existence of mythological figures.
On a separate note, all mythologies have an element of truth in them and they are built as exaggerations of things that have happened. So it is more than likely that there existed a king called Rama who was a powerful warrior king. The greatest indicator of his existence are existence of places in Sri Lanka which are named after characters from the Ramayana. There is a town called Sita Eliya in central Sri Lanka which is supposed to be the place where Ravana confined Sita during her captivity. Surely 'mythical' delusions don't span the collective memory of two landmasses that are as disparate as Ayodhya and Sri Lanka.
What is more appropriate is perhaps the scepticism surrounding some of the elements of mythological narratives that exaggerate some incidents. Surely, flying chariots may be figurative but that does not mean those who rode in them did not exist at all. The absurdity of the idea of the Virgin Birth (which is even more emphatically disproved by science) does not mean that a Jew named Jesus did not exist in Palestine. Similarly, the impossibility of the Meraj having ever occured does not invalidate Mohammad's existence. What is required is an understanding of the nature of the myth. It is an invaluable record of ancient histories and collective memories of communities. They can't be dismissed but on the other hand, it is imperative to realise that they can't be accepted unquestioningly either.
Shubhang
New Delhi, India
16/D-50
Sep 14, 2007
12:16 AM
Just when when think that Outlook cannot be more biased and indulge in more "boot-licking" journalism, it drops itself to a new depth. Seems like its a bottomless pit.

Just look at the statement:" Instead of staying with the plethora of scientific facts available that testify to this"

Where is the plethora of evidence. Why hasn't Outlook quoted even a little of this "plethora of evidence"?

The article says that ASI should have used the "disclaimer from Nasa" as part of evidence.

The disclaimer from NASA says (according to the article):" Remote sensing images or photographs from orbit cannot provide direct information about the origin or age of a chain of islands, and certainly cannot determine whether humans were involved in producing any of the patterns seen.""

So while the NASA means it cannot say that the formation was man-made, it does not say that WAS NOT man made too.

And ofcourse, the regular BJP bashing:"That a disgruntled leader of a party, with a clear bankruptcy of issues and ideas to engage with, should move from Ram Janambhumi to Ram Karambhumi shouldn't have surprised anyone."

Would the Outlook dared to have written: That a Christian leader of a minority Government, with a clear minority appeasing agenda should move from appeasing minorities to denying the existance of Lord Rama should not havecome as a surprise to anyone"

By the way, why is the ASI taking the flak on this? If a similar souding affidavit about say, Islam was filed in a BJP ruled state, Outlook would have gone hammer-and-tongs against the Government rather than the department that filed the affidavit.

So why is ASI taking the heat and the Govt is not put in the dock?
Chanakya
Dubai, United Arab Emirates
17/D-52
Sep 14, 2007
12:17 AM
By reading all this fuss created by BJP, first about Ram Mandir and now Ram Sethu, I have started hating Hindu Religion, and stopped even going to the temple. Do we Indian people have no common sense left?
Kel Shorey
Glasgow, United Kingdom
18/D-54
Sep 14, 2007
12:18 AM
One would have to agree with Shubhang from New Delhi that this article is badly written in haste on an issue that calls for reasoned analysis and debate. Outlook Web Bureau in all fairness really must have looked at the issue from all aspects ... which they failed to do ... what a shame ... Let's see ...

First why Sethu Samudram Canal Project (SSCP) at all ... Outlook admits that "Environmentalists argue that the costs and benefit of the projects have not been properly carried out and that it might cause geological imbalance with no significant saving in costs or increase in trade." The trade benefit is saving of just 30 hrs of shipping time ... is it really feasible ? How long will it take to recover the cost of Rs 2500 crores for the project (it could end up significantly more than that) let alone profit from it.

Second, environmental damage that the dredging would do to coral reefs would be quite sigificant and permanent.

Thirdly, Bhaba Atomic Research Center estimates that about 30% of world’s thorium deposits, or about 225000 tons of thorium, are found on the beaches of Kerala. This will support about 387 years of electricity generation at 2030 capacity levels. Dr. Tad Murthy, world renowned tsunami expert and consultant to the Indian Government, has warned that when the next tsunami hits, the SSCP shipping canal will allow the tsunami energy to pass through to Gulf of Mannar and destroy the Kerala coast in entirety including all the thorium deposits. It is important to note that the Rama Sethu stopped the tsunami of December 2004 from traveling to the west coast of India, protecting millions of lives and the valuable thorium deposits.

Fourthly, does it make any sense to ignore nation's security aspects by internationalising the waters which are shared just by us and Sri Lankans. Can we stop say, Pakistani, Chinese or Bangladeshi warships using the canal ?

And finally, and most important, our civilizational apsects several millenniums old ... to justify SSCP some in our government brush aside all valid apprehensions about SSCP - economic, technical, environmental, cultural, beliefs and faith of hundreds of millions and our energy requirements - argue that Lord Ram never existed. It has since been forced to withdraw its ill-mannered affidavit to SC becuase it feared loosing Hindu votes in the forthcoming elections.

I wish to quote here what Tarun Vijay wrote in TOI:

"Do we need birth certificates to prove Ram, Krishna, Nanak, Jesus and Muhammad? Can the government ask a Muslim or a Christian to file an affidavit in court about having no proofs regarding Hazrat Bal's genuineness or Virgin Mary's immaculate conception? No, they won't even think about it."

"That's the climax of a polity and the state in self-denial. A pitiable mindset, indeed. Honouring people's faith and a collective memory of the nation is also one of the duties of the new borne governance, which remains always subservient and lower in status to the elements of civilisational constitution and cultural continuity several millenniums old. The Left is concerned about ties with America and not the sentiments of the people of India and the UPA is concerned how to appease the Left to safeguard the government. Where's India in their eyes?"


http://timesofindia.ind...articleshow/2361146.cms





Vijay Agarwal
Northampton, United Kingdom
19/D-56
Sep 14, 2007
12:19 AM
And finally, and most important, our civilizational apsects several millenniums old ... to justify SSCP, some in our government brush aside all valid apprehensions about the project - economic, technical, environmental, cultural, beliefs and faith of hundreds of millions and our energy requirements - and argue that Lord Ram never existed. It has since been forced to withdraw its ill-mannered affidavit to SC because it feared loosing Hindu votes in the forthcoming elections.
Vijay Agarwal
Northampton, United Kingdom
20/D-58
Sep 14, 2007
12:20 AM
The anti-hindu bias is seen plainly all over the article. Vinod Mehta seems to be more churchian than Sonia Gandhi herself, since she has asked for the affidavit to withdrawn.
v.seshadri
chennai, india
21/D-60
Sep 14, 2007
12:21 AM
The hindus do not claim that the rama-sethu was a 'man-made' bridge. The reason for reverence is because it was 'nature-made' for god born as man. The story is that, after Hanuman returns with message that Sita is in lanka, the vanara-sena needs to cross over to lanka along the shortest-distance line. Rama goes into tapasya, the god of oceans, samudra-raja appears, agrees to help; he creates an upward-moving water-current along the line of crossing and thereby 'holds up' the rocks thrown by the vanaras on to the sea, thus creating a temporary 'dynamically upheld rock bridge' over which the vanara sainya walks across to Lanka. The rocks then fall down, additional sand accumulates on the rocks over the 7 millennia, forming the ridge, that is clearly seen on the satellite picture. The canal should be made with minimum damage to the ridge as seen in the picture.

The ASI has no authority or necessity to tell the supreme court that the characters of the raamaayana are only imaginary. It is good that its affidavit has been withdrawn.
v.seshadri
chennai, india
22/D-62
Sep 14, 2007
12:22 AM
Shiva/Bodepudi,

>> The topic is pro-jihadi Congress.

Any topic is a green light for you to get on your soapbox to preach your hatred and divisiveness. You are the pits!
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
23/D-64
Sep 14, 2007
12:23 AM
Bapu promised RAMRAJYA to Indians .But alas now Congress says there was no RAM so where from RAMRAJYA will come !!

Bapu's Congress has hoodwinked the Indians.Poor Bapu is surely very disturbed ATMA up there.

Godse must be surely laughing up there since proved right !

HEY RAM ! HEY RAM !! HEY RAM !!
a k ghai
mumbai, India
24/D-66
Sep 14, 2007
12:24 AM
There is no need to give any reasons for why this structure should be preserved. The reason is only one - Hindus dont want it. If others want it first go and spit on vatican and mecca, then we will think about what to do with your request.

And I am really sick of this bhakchondar rag daily insulting hindus with such barbaric opinions. I mean who controls them, do they have any sense of shame- these sold out mercenaries. What have Hindus done to them? Do they only understand the language of bombs?

It is good that with the advent of the Internet, we can rip such thugs apart.

Lets just boycott this cheap rag, which only seems to be serving as a propoganda tool for some desperate congress boot lickers.

Tarun Vijay has written a brilliant article which in the rediff, which seeks to be the best rebuttal I have read so far.


http://www.rediff.com/news/2007/sep/14tarun.htm


We need to create new forums and strengthen the existsing ones like pioneer, rediff, indian express, other pro-Hindu websites and make these outlook fellows lick the dust.

rajkumar
bangalore, India
25/D-68
Sep 14, 2007
12:25 AM
On a lighter vein...

The ASI, instead of depending purely on scientific facts, sought to claim that Lord Ram never existed, hence, no Ramayana and hence no Ram Sethu. Now that they accept the existence of Lord Ram, shouldn't the converse of their initial statement be true?
Ashwin
Jersey City, United States
26/D-70
Sep 14, 2007
12:26 AM
THis is from rediff.com

"Promising to examine issues relating to the Sethusamudram project, the government sought three months' time from the court. "

WHy need three months time to examine when there is "plethora of scientific evidence"? What these people were doing till now?
Ganesan
Nj, USA
27/D-72
Sep 14, 2007
12:27 AM
As someone asked earlier, where can I find the plethora of scientific evidence? Can Outlook provide some links or some info?
Ganesan
Nj, USA
28/D-74
Sep 14, 2007
12:28 AM
Poorly written opinion piece and Advani bashing pretending to be an FAQ. It is not just the Hindutva camp, but ordinary Hindus who live in peace with other communities, think this as a despicable attempt from the government to denigrate their religion - a government which they perceive as willing to concede to the demands of other religions for vote bank politics.

If you hate Advani, write tomes of opinion pieces. After all it is your paper. If you write an FAQ to educate the public, stick to facts.
Nikhil Malhotra
Nashville, United States
29/D-78
Sep 14, 2007
12:29 AM
VINOD,

I can't agree more with you. I despise the Congress as much as you do. Its a pity we dont have a way out.
Ashwin
Jersey City, United States
30/D-27
Sep 15, 2007
12:30 AM
Shiva/Bodepudi,

>> your deceptive and overt support to the terror cells in the US.

You are not going to throw dust in anyone's eyes in order to make us forget that you openly advocated murder in this very forum. Your single-minded jehad to turn Indians against Indians puts you in the category of the lowest form of low life.
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
31/D-29
Sep 15, 2007
12:31 AM
"turn Indians against Indians"

Kettle....pot....ahhh whatevah...
Nikhil Malhotra
Nashville, United States
32/D-31
Sep 15, 2007
12:32 AM
Nikhil,

Can you give an example of my trying to turn Indians against Indians.
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
33/D-33
Sep 15, 2007
12:33 AM
Shiva/Bodepudi,

>> you would have tried to heal the wounds and erase the scars

While a murderous psychopath like you is busy with his knives trying to reopen the wounds?
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
34/D-35
Sep 15, 2007
12:34 AM
Congress, Marxist are hand in glove with Christian missionaries and Islamic terrorists..Sonia Maino and that stupid sardar Madmohan should be fed to sharks in Indian Ocean
shiva
San dimas, United States
35/D-37
Sep 15, 2007
12:35 AM
Congress, Marxist are hand in glove with Christian missionaries and Islamic terrorists..Sonia Maino and that stupid sardar Madmohan should be fed to sharks in Indian Ocean
shiva
San dimas, United States
36/D-39
Sep 15, 2007
12:36 AM
Ghulam Farooqi....did u have guts to say anything when ur muslim brothers were going on riot because someone drew a cartoon of ur beloved Muhammad...?? I get filled with rage when a muslim tries to teach..Go and spend your precious time teaching ur muslim terrrorist brothers who are out to destroy the whole of mankind...Go and spend your time in Kashmir teaching ur terrorist brothers not to butcher innocent civilians..
shiva
San dimas, United States
37/D-42
Sep 15, 2007
12:37 AM
Hindus Rama is fake, Krishna Dwarika is fake...but Jesus christ was son of God and black stone in Mecca/Medina came from heaven, a historical fact...
Hang all these christian/marxist assholes..
shiva
San dimas, United States
38/D-45
Sep 15, 2007
12:38 AM
Hindus Rama is fake, Krishna Dwarika is fake...but Jesus christ was son of God and black stone in Mecca/Medina came from heaven, a historical fact...
Hang all these christian/marxist assholes..
shiva
San dimas, United States
39/D-47
Sep 15, 2007
12:39 AM
Outlook is a congress mouth piece..Wait till BJP comes to power..They will be forced to shut down..
shiva
San dimas, United States
40/D-50
Sep 15, 2007
12:40 AM
How about coming up with similar article on whether black stone in Mecca/medina is from Heaven or not?..The whole of outlook with Sonia Maino will be lynched in full public view.
shiva
San dimas, United States
41/D-52
Sep 15, 2007
12:41 AM
if Hindus raise their voice its "hullabaloo"..if muslims, christian goes on riot, its because their religious sentiments was hurt...Come on outlook, change your tone before its too late...
shiva
San dimas, United States
42/D-54
Sep 15, 2007
12:42 AM
The Govt withdrew the affidavit from the Supreme Court and has asked for 3 months to review the project and even consider alternate routes that would not disturb the Ram Sethu.

So what happened to the "plethora of evidence" that Outlook so confidently quoted? Does this mean that the Government does not have the courage to stand by its own agency that has collected "wealth of evidence"?

It is simple. The Govt thought it could bite, more, much more than it could chew. And that it could get away with accusing that the BJP was raising communal passions - which all the Congress loving media dutifully reported.

Now, after things started going out of control, the Congress played the ultimate card - keeping the Queen above all this muck. So now, the media is gushing with tales of how Sonia Gandhi personally intervened and how this intervention led to the Govt withdrawing its affodavit.

And two ASI chaps have been made the scapegoats in the entire issue.

And, by the way, what is spineless Manmohan Singh doing in the middle of all this? Getting a good night's sleep perhaps?
Chanakya
Dubai, United Arab Emirates
43/D-56
Sep 15, 2007
12:43 AM
Is this the Outlook Web Bureau's genuine attempt at letting us know about the Ram Setu issue or is it a Congress spokesperson's interview? Either way it looks the same
vijay shankar
Bangalore, India
44/D-58
Sep 15, 2007
12:44 AM
The recent statement from M Karunanidhi, the DMK supremo in Tamil Nadu about the "historical existence of Lord Rama" is deplorable and dangeours as well as laughable. He also claims that his DMK and PMK are the "real Dravidian parties" as oppsoed to Jayalalitha's AIADMK.

Instead of reasoning the economic benefits of SSCP (SethuSamudram Canal Project) that could accrue Mr Karunanidhi should not have used such tactics of dividing lines between southern "Dravidians" and northern "Aryans". Perhaps his party is hoping to gain electorally in "Dravidian" Tamil Nadu to spread the myth that Lord Rama was an Aryan who invaded the Dravidian lands including Sri Lanka, but then how he could doubt Ram's existence. Perhaps he thinks it is an Aryan myth. He could be dragged in people's court like Ravana by denying Lord Rama, the living soul of India, and stirring up a controversial subject between north and south and integrity of India ...
Vijay Agarwal
Northampton, United Kingdom
45/D-60
Sep 15, 2007
12:45 AM
The affidavit has created problems for Manmohan Singh as a Sikh too.NOT A SINGLE WORD IN SHRI GURU GRANTH SAHIB CAN BE CHANGED. Holy Granth confirms that in Treta Yug the Power was RAM who was from Raghu Vansh.

Now the affadavit filed by UPA Govt. said that 'THERE WAS NO RAM '
a k ghai
mumbai, India
46/D-62
Sep 15, 2007
12:46 AM
We are living in a polity and state of self-denial ...

Because of those self-styled secularists we are "stuck in a sixty-year-old shrub of recent activism as a substitute for a five-thousand-year-old flow of the tested tradition, we will be bartering gold with a soiled newspaper. Those who do not remember their past can have no future -Winston Churchill said and it should be remembered by those who understand their ancestral wisdom through foreign translations only."

Why do we have to learn our history as British taught us ...

Even Allama Iqbal, the eminent Muslim poet philosopher and freedom-fighter, recognised that Ram is the living soul of India ... plse read his beautiful renderings in Urdu/Hindustani ...

Is desh mein huey hain hazaaron malak-sirisht,
Mashhoor jin key dam sey hai duniya mein naam-e-hind.
Hai Ram Key vujood pe hindustaan ko naaz,
Aihl-e-nazar samajhtey hain us ko imaam-e-hind.
Talvaar ka dhani tha shujaat mein fard tha,
Pakeezagi mein josh-e-mohabbat mein fard tha.


Translation in English:

There have been thousands of personages of angelic qualities in this land. Because of them India’s name is famous in the world. India prides herself on Rama. The discerning ones regard him as her spiritual leader. He was an accomplished swordsman, unmatched in valour. He was unrivalled in piety and ardent love.
Vijay Agarwal
Northampton, United Kingdom
47/D-64
Sep 15, 2007
12:47 AM
If we are to accept some mythological stories as historical, then there are many more interesting stories demanding attention. To name a few,
Saraswati, who became the wife of her own father, was the daughter of Brahma. There are two stories about her genesis in the
"Saraswati Purana". One is that Brahma created his beautiful daughter Saraswati direct from his "vital strength" or seminal fluid. The other is that Brahma used to collect his semen in a pot whenever he masturbated fixing his carnal eyes on the celestial beauty Urvasi. Brahma's semen in the pot gave birth to Saraswati. Thus, Saraswati had no mother.
Birth of Karna, the Bheel Bharata tells us, is born through Kunti’s kapala – her skull.

The sun is enamored by her (Kunti’s) beauty and she is struck by his arrows of rays. The rays enter her belly and Kunti conceives. The pregnancy grows instantly and soon the child comes out breaking open her skull.

Birth of Kripi and Kripa
Sharadwan had been celibate for a century, and he was a master of himself. But on that day the unexpected sight of the naked nymph unmanned him and he spent his seed into a clump of river-reeds…Just a day later two infants of unearthly splendour lay crying lustily in the bed of reeds…they were named Kripa and Kripi.
Birth of Agni
Agni, says one story, was born from the mouth of Prajapati. In the cult of Ayyappa in south India, this god is born from Vishnu’s thigh – he had been conceived when Vishnu was in the Mohini form and since he changed back into male after the conception; Ayyappan had to be born from his thigh.
My country India has passed through the stage when we were taught that earth quake are caused when the cow shifts the balance on the other horn,
We have to make a stride and study ever thing in its perspective
sanaulla sharief
new york, United States
48/D-66
Sep 15, 2007
12:48 AM
If we are to accept some mythological stories as historical, then there are many more interesting stories demanding attention. To name a few,
Saraswati, who became the wife of her own father, was the daughter of Brahma. There are two stories about her genesis in the
"Saraswati Purana". One is that Brahma created his beautiful daughter Saraswati direct from his "vital strength" or seminal fluid. The other is that Brahma used to collect his semen in a pot whenever he masturbated fixing his carnal eyes on the celestial beauty Urvasi. Brahma's semen in the pot gave birth to Saraswati. Thus, Saraswati had no mother.
Birth of Karna, the Bheel Bharata tells us, is born through Kunti’s kapala – her skull.

The sun is enamored by her (Kunti’s) beauty and she is struck by his arrows of rays. The rays enter her belly and Kunti conceives. The pregnancy grows instantly and soon the child comes out breaking open her skull.

Birth of Kripi and Kripa
Sharadwan had been celibate for a century, and he was a master of himself. But on that day the unexpected sight of the naked nymph unmanned him and he spent his seed into a clump of river-reeds…Just a day later two infants of unearthly splendour lay crying lustily in the bed of reeds…they were named Kripa and Kripi.
Birth of Agni
Agni, says one story, was born from the mouth of Prajapati. In the cult of Ayyappa in south India, this god is born from Vishnu’s thigh – he had been conceived when Vishnu was in the Mohini form and since he changed back into male after the conception; Ayyappan had to be born from his thigh.
My country India has passed through the stage when we were taught that earth quake are caused when the cow shifts the balance on the other horn,
We have to make a stride and study ever thing in its perspective and be realistic.
sanaulla sharief
new york, United States
49/D-68
Sep 15, 2007
12:49 AM
""If we are to accept some mythological stories as historical, then there are many more interesting stories demanding attention.'""

Sanaulah

'To name a few,' like sacrifice of Goat on EID-isn't the mythology behind it interesting?? Or personal lives of Paigambers of Islam -will it be interesting also too ?? Some body will post these and other Fables of Islam here like marriage to a six year Girl and consummation when the girl was nine years of age .Interesting ?? I am desisting further.

Sanaulah are you aware that Sonia had to skip certain declarations \goodies for Muslims to be declared on first day of Ranmazan ?? Are you aware that Sachar Report has been shifted to back burner ?? These are effects of blow back of AFFIDAVIT .Wait it will be now a continuous chain reation.

Sanaulha are you aware that the biggest enemies of Muslims in India are Educated Muslims specially NRIs like you who are well placed in life but are disconnected with the ground realities in India .

If you want to continue to rattle Hindus please GO ahead but simultaneously do realise you are HARMING THE INTERESTS OF POOR MUSLIMS IN INDIA .Better do some Social service for your Community being well of in life and better placed.If not then please don't CREATE MORE TROUBLES FOR THEM ! Your sharp words will only harm them.
a k ghai
mumbai, India
50/D-70
Sep 15, 2007
12:50 AM
"There are two stories about her genesis in the
"Saraswati Purana". "

For your kind information Mr Sanualla, there is no such thing as a Saraswati Purana. Learn to lie a little more intelligently.
Ganesan
Nj, USA
51/D-72
Sep 15, 2007
12:51 AM
I am very much entertained reading stories from the Sanualla Puranas. Do you have any idea of publishing it in a book form? Hindus would be very glad to know that there is a 19th purana called Saraswati Purana. Did angel gabriel tell you about this purana?
Ganesan
Nj, USA
52/D-74
Sep 15, 2007
12:52 AM
""Setu-samudram project' is Govt's methodic plan to hurt Hindu feelings - Dr. Subramanyam Swami
September 7, 2007


By Staff Reporter

Mumbai (Maharashtra): ‘Arrest of Shankaracharya, prohibition on Dharmacharya to carry His ‘Danda’ during His air travel, destruction of ‘Ram-setu’ etc. are the methodic assaults by the Government on objects of worship of Hindus. When faith is destroyed, society is weakened and it is easy to convert such people. This is the real objective behind demolishing ‘Ram-setu’. The above statement was made by Dr. Subramanyam Swamy, the President of Janata Party.
Dr. Swamy was the main speaker in a program held on behalf of ‘Rameshwaram Ram-setu Raksha Manch’ and ‘Indian History Compilation Committee (Konkan Zone)’. He said, "It is not important to prove with the help of science, whether ‘Ram-setu’ is natural or man-made; but Hindus have faith in ‘Ram-setu’ and this reason is enough. Scientific proofs can be obtained later as was found in case of existence of Saraswati River and Dwaraka." He said further that 5 commissions before the Congress Government took over in 2004 had put up alternate plans against demolition of ‘Ram-setu’. But this Government has found a new approach so that the ‘Ram-setu’ would be demolished. The Government’s intentions are quite clear. Now the fight is between ‘Om and Rome." In a case fought in Punjab High Court about Brahma-sarovar (lake) in Kurukshetra, the Court had passed a verdict that if people have faith in Brahma Lake, there is no need to find any proof and their faith is sufficient. Even now the same problem has arisen. But the Congress Government is trying to avoid finding answer to this problem.

Shri. Karunanidhi, the President of DMK has extended his support to the project as Karunanidhi claims to be an atheist and not a Hindu. He has been carrying out very insulting propaganda against Sree Rama for past so many decades. He has written many dishonorable things about Sree Rama and is generally against Sree Rama. We must remember this. Shri. Swamy said further that the Government changed the route of Metro railway when a petition was filed that Delhi Metro project is a danger to Qutub Minar. The Government spent additional 20 crores of rupees in changing the route. Historical importance of Qutub Minar is nothing against ‘Ram-setu’. But the Government believes only in buttering minorities. The rulers want to prove to the minorities by demolishing ‘Ram-setu’that they do not care for Hindus. He said that as Indian Government is indifferent towards the demand to declare ‘Ram-setu’ as a historical monument, he would appeal to the Government of Sri Lanka for the same. (Hindus must realize that it would be shameful if help of another country is sought to save ‘Ram-setu’. They should try their best to save ‘Ram-setu’ - Editor) ""

a k ghai
mumbai, India
53/D-64
Sep 17, 2007
12:53 AM
Mr.Ganesan
I used the following site for reference.
Understanding Mahabharata/Kunti and the Birth of the Sun God's Child by Satya Chaitanya
sanaulla sharief
new york, United States
54/D-65
Sep 17, 2007
12:54 AM
UPA Govt feels that there is no 'historical evidence' for Hindu faith, they may as well demolish all Hindu temples and declare that
there is no such religion !

With the Leftists as their partners, they may also declare that there is no such thing as 'religion' and demolish all Churches, Mosques, Buddha Viharas, Gurudwaras,Jain temples and such other symbols of religious faiths.

If Bible and Koran can be relied upon to create 'faith' in Christianity and Islam, then Gita and Ramayan can also be relied upon to instill faith in Hinduism !

Anyway Vedas, the oldest scriptural literature, will not die even after the UPA and congress party vanish !

After all Hinduism is a way of life.

Gope Lalwani
Chalfont Pennsylvania, United States
55/D-66
Sep 17, 2007
12:55 AM
Regarding Karunanidhi' statements on 'arya' rama as oppsed to dravidians. His ravana-fondness cannot also be justified as anti-brahminism, bec ravana was a brahmin, rama a kshatriya. He is just foolish, that is all.

The word 'arya' stands for spiritual nobility, nothing to do with 'race'. So is the word 'draavida'
amritatvaaya aatmarakshaam yatnate iti aaryah, one who tries to save his soul for immortality; lord Iyyappa, stands for aarya-pa, aaryataam paati sad-jane, blesses preservation of aarya-bhaava among good people, irrespective of religion or caste or race. The word 'draavida' is also sanskrit only, it stands for seers or rishis of dandakaaranya, like agastya. 'dravaNam vedti iti draavidah', sees the divine drive behind events, the driver being rudra, ritam dravayati iti rudrah, Siva. Adi Sankara refers to himself as 'dravida-SiSu'. Raakshasic people like karunanidhi have no right to claim draavida status.

Even 'tamizh' stands for negation of tamas, paro rajas, mahaa-saraswati as lanuage given by murugan to agastya, sitting as parrot on mother Meenakshi's shoulder. 'tamaattai [ignorance] izhakka-seivadaal [being eliminated by] tamizh[tamil language]. Spiritual and devotional content in Tamil is as great as in Sanskrit. Karunaanidhi, Rama-dosh [he is not ramadas, but ramdoss, one who sees rama as evil] have no rightful business to talk about Tamil. Good tamilians should understand.
v.seshadri
chennai, india
56/D-67
Sep 17, 2007
12:56 AM
MK's calling Rama a myth is his prerogative. But then, his own master in all matters, MR. 'Periyar', was named Ramaswamy Naicker, by his parents, after the hero of ramayana only. It is not on record that periyar disowned either his own name or his father. My suspicion is that, with the leftists' death-dance, DMK support is crucial for UPA. MK must have asked the ASI officers to call rama a myth thro his DMK minister for shipping, they might have obeyed recognizing his current importance for the UPA. Naturally, MK is defending the ASI officials, who are being suspended for no fault of theirs! Rama has his own ways of taking care of the ravanas, both old and new!

v.seshadri
chennai, india
57/D-68
Sep 17, 2007
12:57 AM
One does not know whether the right to information act would help in this; but, the few non-anti-hindu journalists in the media like Gurumoorthy should find out, for the benefit of the nation, which of the people in the central cabinet, congress working committee and organization set up and the leftists' permanent polit-bureauos are christians, crypto-christians or have kids, grand-kids, close relatives by birth or marriage converted to chr or islam. Was surprised to know Natwar Singh had an islamized son, hence the close contacts with Iraq etc. Conversion is a respected personal right. But, the country's citizens have a right to know whether sanskrit-named persons like Shiv-raj, Ambika-soni, Abhishek Singhvi et. al. have krishna or christ or allah in their hearts, clearly, to judge whether their political/admn actions are thereby influenced. The unnecessary write-off of Ram Himself along with rama-setu with voluminous papers submitted to the court by ASI, for example, can be understood, if it turns out that Ambika Soni is actually a christian despite 'ambika' in her name. Suspension of ASI officials to take the blame is unfair. One has to wonder, because Sonia [may be bec of secy vincent] does have a weakness to go for christians, if she can, for nominations for CM's posts also, e.g. Ajit yogi, Dharam Singh, Reddy of AP and so many others. It is her prerogative, but transparency will be a kindness to the citizens.

v.seshadri
chennai, india
58/D-69
Sep 17, 2007
12:58 AM
One does not know whether the right to information act would help in this; but, the few non-anti-hindu journalists in the media like Gurumoorthy should find out, for the benefit of the nation, which of the people in the central cabinet, congress working committee and organization set up and the leftists' permanent polit-bureauos are christians, crypto-christians or have kids, grand-kids, close relatives by birth or marriage converted to chr or islam. Was surprised to know Natwar Singh had an islamized son, hence the close contacts with Iraq etc. Conversion is a respected personal right. But, the country's citizens have a right to know whether sanskrit-named persons like Shiv-raj, Ambika-soni, Abhishek Singhvi et. al. have krishna or christ or allah in their hearts, clearly, to judge whether their political/admn actions are thereby influenced. The unnecessary write-off of Ram Himself along with rama-setu with voluminous papers submitted to the court by ASI, for example, can be understood, if it turns out that Ambika Soni is actually a christian despite 'ambika' in her name. Suspension of ASI officials to take the blame is unfair. One has to wonder, because Sonia [may be bec of secy vincent] does have a weakness to go for christians, if she can, for nominations for CM's posts also, e.g. Ajit yogi, Dharam Singh, Reddy of AP and so many others. It is her prerogative, but transparency will be a kindness to the citizens.

v.seshadri
chennai, india
59/D-70
Sep 17, 2007
12:59 AM
Lord Rama Himself will not like that greater economy in sea transport from Chennai to Cochin etc., possible by sethusamudram canal project, be prevented by the presence of the rama-sethu sttlement between Rameswaram and Sree-lanka. But, the canal can be realigned to avoid damaging the sethu settlement significantly, by the designers. In that case, along with the sethusamudram project, submarine sight-seeing facilities can also be installed, so that devotees of Rama and Aanjaneya may be able to go down in submarines with glass sides and see for themselves the rocks, now settled down, but held up against gravity by ocean god 7k yrs ago for Sree Rama's vaanara-sena to cross over to sreelanka for retrieving Sita from Ravana's custody there. Similar sub-marine sighting facilities may be made for devotees of Sree Krishna to go down and see the submerged dwaraka on the west coast, by the Gujarat govt. If Tamil-Nadu govt realigns canal to save the major part of the sethu, the gujarat govt, or satya-sai baba may be willing to make arrangements for submarine tourism for seeing the submerged sethu. The added advantage of a tourism spot with lots of visitors, income for locals will accrue, besides shortened route from east to west around south india. Such tourists will also visit kanyakumari and Vivekananda, Tiruvalluvar on rocks, also nearby. If DMK govt insisists on destroying the sethu, using the canal project as an excuse, Kaligjnar's family will get the curse of Sita. Only his political opponents will benefit.

The hindus do not claim that the rama-sethu was a 'man-made' bridge. The reason for reverence is because it was 'nature-made' for god born as man. The story is that, after Hanuman returns with message that Sita is in lanka, the vanara-sena needs to cross over to lanka along the shortest-distance line. Rama goes into tapasya, the god of oceans, samudra-raja appears, agrees to help; he creates an upward-moving water-current along the line of crossing and thereby 'holds up' the rocks thrown by the vanaras on to the sea, thus creating a temporary 'dynamically upheld rock bridge' over which the vanara sainya walks across to Lanka. The rocks then fall down, additional sand accumulates on the rocks over the 7 millennia, forming the ridge, that is clearly seen on the satellite picture. The canal should be made with minimum damage to the ridge as seen in the picture.
v.seshadri
chennai, india
60/D-71
Sep 17, 2007
01:00 AM
This is the second case of divine disapproval for the churchian over-reach in India. When neo-conservative Bush was relected in US, our churchians thought time had come for termination of hinduism in India. A chr inspector of police in kanchi happily arrested the acharyas on an unjustified murder-involvement. Now, both the case and the inspector are under suspension. The crypto-chr contractor Ravi Subr only in trouble, no case for his approver-ship.

Similarly, when popular tide was turning anti-Bjp, bec of their foolish stand on nuclear deal, the churchians in UPA and friends in DMK thought that ASI calling Rama a myth will terminate hinduism, hoping anti-bjp indian hindus will throw the baby off along with the bathwater, throw Ram also off along with BJP. Reverse has happened, people have come back for Ram and BJP, however silly the latter may be! The ASI has withdrawn its report calling rama a myth, for no benefit to UPA. Only DMK has been antogonized.

Churchian conspirators in India must understand that Jesus christ will not bless them with success on wrong pursuits.
v.seshadri
chennai, india
61/D-72
Sep 17, 2007
01:01 AM
Perhaps, the real reason why Sonia has asked ASI to withraw its report is that it will be embarrassing to her if Rama would have been mythologized, by the time she goes to US next month to address the UN on mahatma gandhi bithday, as another 'gandhi', trying to falsely suggest the existence of a family relationship with the mahatma among americans who do not much about India. Mahatma was fond of rama-raajya, died with ram on his lips. Perhaps rama is mmentioned in the speech prepared for her for the occasion already. Well, crookedness begets confusion.
v.seshadri
chennai, india
62/D-73
Sep 17, 2007
01:02 AM
Sanaulla: Stop your concoctions on non-existent saraswathi purana. Gauri, Laxmi and Saraswati were emanated from the cosmic mom Durga or devi, to be consorts and power-givers to Siva, vishnu, and bramha in their threefold operations on universe. Read devee-maahaatmya or devee-bhaagavata, if you really know sanskrit. If you are falsely pretending knowledge on hindu scriptures, Allah will punish you.
v.seshadri
chennai, india
63/D-74
Sep 17, 2007
01:03 AM
I heard that the CM of Tamil Nadu has said that existence of Ram is only a myth. He dragged Pandit Nehru's name by saying that the latter also articulated the same views. I am nothing to say about the Ram Setu but I do feel that certain politicians should be more restrained in airing their views. Please read my article

http://pune360.com/Edit...ter-to-sri-karunanidhi/
Sudhir Kumar Bisht
Delhi, India
64/D-75
Sep 17, 2007
01:04 AM
GHAI:>>" whether black stone in Mecca/medina is from Heaven or not?.."

Perhaps some truth in it if Arabs believe that the siva linga on kaabaa corner camedown from the skies. In my perception, when the northpole icecone Meru melted for ganges to flow for Bhageerata [biblical floods], neighbouring peak Alaka where kubera worshipped siva and sakti in a sree-cakra with 9 levels and 273 female icons on it, along with sivalinga on centre, also came down and landed in arabia. Same floods forced the progeny of Adam/eve in garden of eden [antarctica] to come in Nova's arc and settle on mount Ararat in the middle east. When they spread out, the arab tribes got attracted to the iconic tower, each chose one idol for worship, started quarrelling. Ravana, Kubera's younger brother, is born as mohammed, in the 7th century A.D, tells the arabs to stop idolatry, covers the chakra by khaaba structure, moves only the linga representing the shapeless formfree absolute on one corner of the structure, asks followers only to worship Allah = hara = siva, the Absolute, also symbolized by the 'stone' you are talking about. Perhaps, the arabs only remember that the linga came down from the sky, from the top of the north ice cone, but forgotten the chakra associated with it, covered for over 1400 yrs by the khaaba!.
v.seshadri
chennai, india
65/D-76
Sep 17, 2007
01:05 AM
Sanaulla:>>" please note hinduism has two itihaasas, ramayana and mahaabhaarata, which are historical accounts of happenings in and around India, about 7k and 5k years back, respectively. [iti iha aasan, like this, here, they existed, iti itihaasah]. 18 puranas were also compiled by Vyasa. purusham aanamati iti puraaNah, each is in praise of the powers of one deity, vishnu-puraana, sivapuraana etc. Some exaggerated importances to the deity concerned are there, for satisfaction of devotees of the particular deity concerned. They are not quite historical but not mythological also. Statements on all coordinate well with eachother. Time factors not specific.

The kind of puranas you quote from do not exist.
During brittish period, even brahmins wrote nonsense in sanskrit, on payments from priests, even suggesting that krishna's birth in mathura jail is only an 'imitation' of christ's birth in a stable, to denigrate hinduism. You may have landed on some such nonsense, and quotiung from them. Ignore such things. Concentrate on your own religious literature, try to follow the high-spiritual contents of it, ignore injunctions based on 7th century arab customs, they cannot apply in nthe 21st century.
v.seshadri
chennai, india
66/D-77
Sep 17, 2007
01:06 AM
Indians, Don't forget! Teach the congress, DMK and commie scum a sound lesson in the elections for blaspheming about Lord Rama. While we can continue reading Outlook, for its clownish entertainment value, treat such articles with the contempt they deserve for their psecular pretensions.
radesh rangarajan
chennai, India
67/D-75
Sep 18, 2007
01:07 AM
"If we are to accept some mythological stories as historical, then there are many more interesting stories demanding attention. To name a few-" SS

"Mythological" Rama and Saraswati, etc etc etc had created the most peaceful and the most tolerant culture the world had ever seen. Compare it to the TRUTH of Islam with its genocidal history-that can be vrified in all its gory details-that killed tens of innocent millions and destroyed the most wonderful cultures, freedoms and civilizations in North Africa, Middle East, Central Asia and North India.
Shivaji
Nalanda, India
68/D-76
Sep 18, 2007
01:08 AM
Please give an authenitic site for reading these books in English. Thanks
sanaulla sharief
new york, United States
69/D-77
Sep 18, 2007
01:09 AM
Shivaji/Bodepudi,

>> Compare it to the TRUTH of Islam with its genocidal history.

What you have been peddling are lies and exaggerations. Islamic conquests were as bloody as most conquests throughout history in all six continents, and less violent than many. The sole goal of present day liars like yourself is to prevent harmony and peace between communities. Your hope and prayer are for a bloody apocalypse.
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
70/D-82
Sep 19, 2007
01:10 AM
Dear Editor/Readers:

I pretty much read the entire 13 pages long readers input. I didn't come across a single comment came from any Sri-Lankan to point out the places of Ramayan's existence in Sri-Lanka. In the central hill town town of Nuwara Eliya which lies 7000 feet above sea level(Nuwaraeliya.org) there is a Hindu Temple devoted to Sita Devi was built by the Government of India (Can be verified through Indian High Commission in Colombo)at a place called Sita Eliya (Google search: Sita Eliya). The temple was built at the small creek where Sita was believed to have bathed. The adjoining rocks by the creek have foot marks showing two big deep landings and marched forward believed to be Lord Hanuman. The cave Sita Devi was kept was adjoined to Ashoka Vanam which is presently called Haggala Gardens. The argument that RAM SETHU was natural formation can be put to rest whoever visit these sites. There is a Ganesh Temple in eastern Batticaloa village of Mamangam where Lord Hanuman supposedly doused the fire on his tail. These are preety common to most Hindu Sri-Lankan's. The Ravan's Rock adjoining the Hindu Temple at eastern port city of Trincomalee(Lord Shiva temple or Thiru-Koneswaram in Tamil)is another place has evidence on Ravan's existence. I having witnessed these places as well as rameshwaram temple can tell that these are not myth but facts!!!!!
Ramesh Sinniah
Toronto, Canada
71/D-83
Sep 19, 2007
01:11 AM
RAMA is a muthological character and to attempt to explain and find sceitific proof of his existence is exercise in futility. No doubt the ASI has gone overboard in including the offending paras in the affidavit but it appears the key actors in drafting the Afidavit had not done such a blunder inadvertantly but were just echoing one strong political group which never misses to challenge the existence of RAMA.Be it so but reaction by the party of RAM BHAKTS is also out of proportion and attempt to drag on this issue even after Govt has withdrawn the Affidavit is not going to help them. Their challenge to the Govt to utter such remarks as to question the existence is uncalled for and totally out of context. They are forgetting all other relgions like Islam, Sikhism,Christanity have a central figure either as a prophet or messanger or a guru and suchh figure is a proven Historical fact .And to deny their existence is to deny a proven fact apart from downright blasphemy.
The requirs sensitive handling and matters faith can not always be put to test of reason and logic
gopal
bangalore, India
72/D-84
Sep 19, 2007
01:12 AM
" By asking provocative questions, such as which engineering college Ramar had gone to for being able to build the Sethu (bridge) to cross the Palk Bay for rescuing Sita from Ravan’s custody, the DMK chief has insulted the very people who had voted for his party in the last state elections, a huge majority of them being Hindus and worshippers of Rama."
"It is fine to push for the Sethu project, but let there be no hurtful proclamations questioning the religious faith of millions of people."


http://203.197.197.71/p.../unnecessary-words.aspx
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
73/D-85
Sep 19, 2007
01:13 AM
Sanaulla: The Bharatiya Vidya Bhawan of Bombay has published many books in English as authentic translations, comments on the vedas, upanishads, puranas and the itihaasas, a book on ramaayana by Rajaji and krishnaavataara by KMMunshi. I do not know if they are on the web. You can contact the Bhavan, they have branch in new york also. Mahesh yogi's orgn has also brought veda recitations on CDs. Just for your information.
v.seshadri
chennai, india
74/D-64
Sep 20, 2007
01:14 AM
Any concept that is a matter of faith and religion should not be put to scientific test. Today's Science can hardly be called perfect. It is as fallible as anything else. Today there is one theory and after a few years, after some new fact emerges, the theory is reversed completely. Many examples can be given in this regard. Therefore, as stated earlier, no body, either the govt or the media, has any right to put religious beliefs to scientific test.
Balaji
chennai, India
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