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1/D-79
Apr 19, 2014
02:19 PM

"I don't believe in God, but I'm afraid of Him." Gabriel Garcia Marquez

Misogynist
Chennai, India
2/D-105
Apr 19, 2014
03:11 PM

Parties craft strategies, write manifestos, stir passions and emotions, but once the votes are counted and the Cabinet is sworn in, the true magnitude of the task of governing as large, diverse, complex and underdeveloped a nation as India begins to sink in. And, barring the party cadres, that is most of what the average citizen is concerned with and will judge her government by, five years later. No one should subscribe to these crazy Protocols of the Elders of Zion business. 

ashok lal
mumbai, India
3/D-108
Apr 19, 2014
03:16 PM

You congressi chamcha, Congress-mukt Bharat means: free from corruption, free from pollicy paralysis, free from the dynasty buffoons, free from anti-national italians lording over India, free from terrorism, free from divide-and-rule, free from rabid socialism, free from economic stagnation and free from being consigned permanently to a third world status. If you still didn't it, I will make it easier for you: congress party is a cancer to India's body politic; it needs to be wiped out ruthlessly. Got it?  

Ravi Jain
Hyderabad, India
4/D-162
Apr 19, 2014
07:20 PM

These guys are capable of dragging hindutva in a gulab jamoon recipe. So the article need not be taken seriously.

The challenge for Congress at the present time is that it might become a NE party along with presence in Kerala. Everywhere else, it is facing serious trouble. And unless strong local leaders are developed, Congress will remain  a regional party-just the like the BJP which was mainly a Northern party.

Since the Northern area is large, BJP could survive. But NE and Kerala alone dont account for much. So the problem for Congress is much deeper than that of BJP.

Akash Verma
Chennai, India
5/D-165
Apr 19, 2014
08:16 PM

The thrid point, the unsaid, is the real agenda for Modi and RSS.The change ot constitution.Rest are only rehetoric to fool the people.This election will be a watershed in the history of India in which it will go downhill and perish BJP and RSS once for all along with the nation.

Nasar Ahmed
Karikkudi, India
6/D-192
Apr 19, 2014
10:56 PM

@ Nasar Ahmed - "This election will be a watershed in the history of India in which it will go downhill and perish BJP and RSS once for all along with the nation."

Yes, it will be a watershed election because the Congress will just manage a 2 digit tally in the Lok Sabha.

India will FLOURISH, not perish.. What will peish is vote bank politics and pseudo-secularism. For the first time, we will be having true secularism in thE sense that alll Indians will be treated in the same manner irrespective of caste, creed or religion.

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
7/D-201
Apr 19, 2014
11:27 PM

Modi's Congress-mukt Bharat is in fact a cloak for Hindutva majoritarianism, short shrift to minorities and underplaying our diversity and pluralism. In other words a mirror image of Pakistan!

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
8/D-22
Apr 20, 2014
02:13 AM

The problem with psuedo-secularists is that while being fanatical followers of diversity-intolerant coercive fear-controlled belief systems, they lecture about diversity and pluralism to the Hindus.

When in majority, these fanatics want to exterminate all belief systems except their own.

When in minority, these fanatics want secularism as a cloak until such time they become majority.

They continued this tamasha for 65 years, and they hoped that they could continue to play this cruel joke on Hindus, until Modi came along.

India has been a civilizational marvel since millenia inspite of 1000 years of occupation by the barbarians. Even Greeks and their hero emperor, Alexander - The Great bowed in reverence to this great civilizational wonder called India and retreated without invading it. Even the European philosophers called India as the light-house of high human thought.

To compare this great Indian civilization with the land of pure barbarians is another cruel joke, the psuedo-secularists want to play on Hindus.

Arun Kumar
Hyderabad, India
9/D-31
Apr 20, 2014
04:32 AM

"Modi's Congress-mukt Bharat is in fact a cloak for Hindutva majoritarianism, short shrift to minorities and underplaying our diversity and pluralism. In other words a mirror image of Pakistan!" CAIR pracharak

Your phrase "..majoritarianism, short shrift to minorities and underplaying our diversity and pluralism" describes not just Pakistan but all Islamic countries or for that matter, Islam. Koran 9:29 commands Muslims to convert, kill or subjugate as dhimmis all non-Muslims. Has this been renounced by Muslims? No.

Look in the mirror before pontificating about diversity and pluralism.

Ram Lala
Kavutaram, India
10/D-50
Apr 20, 2014
11:44 AM

Arun Kumar,

>> while being fanatical followers of diversity-intolerant coercive fear-controlled belief systems, they lecture about diversity and pluralism to the Hindus.

This RSS hate mantra has been posted in this forum about 50 times in the past 10 years! The intolerant policies of Pakistan or Saudi Arabia are being posited as justifications for silencing the advocates of secularism in India. These sanghis who have so little ambition to make India a civilized example for the theocracies that surround us are the true anti-nationals in India.

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
11/D-52
Apr 20, 2014
12:00 PM

Ram lala,

>> Your phrase "..majoritarianism, short shrift to minorities and underplaying our diversity and pluralism" describes not just Pakistan but all Islamic countries.

True, and you and Modi want India to be just like them!

>> Koran 9:29 commands Muslims to convert, kill or subjugate as dhimmis all non-Muslims.

Only sanghis follow these verses. The Quran says, "There is no compulsion in religion". But ill-bred morons like you, who insist on interposing religion in a discussion of politics, will always come up with any stuff to oppose anyone who supports secularism in India, while claiming that BJP is secular. Two-faced hypocrites!

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
12/D-58
Apr 20, 2014
12:42 PM
 Recently I was chatting some Modi/BJP supporting friends. Most of them felt that Modi/BJP will not be able to free India of corruption and black money. Taking on from here,the inferences drawn in the context of "Congress-yukt Bharat"  by the author seem to be meaningful!
R V Subramanian
Gurgaon, India
13/D-63
Apr 20, 2014
01:27 PM
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Arun Kumar
Hyderabad, India
14/D-69
Apr 20, 2014
02:48 PM

"The intolerant policies of Pakistan or Saudi Arabia are being posited as justifications for silencing the advocates of secularism in India."

The intolerant policies of Pakistan or Saudi Arabia are being posited as justifications for silencing the advocates of PSEUDO-secularism in India.

True secularism can never be under threat in India which has always been multi-lingual, multi-ethnic and multi-religious long before secular ideals found favour in the west.

India under Modi will be far more secular than it ever was under the Congress. If Modi belies our hopes, I will be the first to oppose his policies. We have given the Congress 60 years. Let's give Modi just 60 months. Surely it wont be worse than the UPA.

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
15/D-102
Apr 20, 2014
08:03 PM

> Koran 9:29 commands Muslims to convert, kill or subjugate as dhimmis all non-Muslims. Ram Lala

>>Only sanghis follow these verses. The Quran says, "There is no compulsion in religion".  CAIR pracharak

Nonsense. The institution of "dhimma" that Hindus are subjected to in Pakistan is based on this verse and similar Medina verses  in the Koran. Now this barbaric institution is being imposed on Christians in Syria, Copts in Egypt, Christians in Nigeria and other places all over the world where Muslims are a majority or have enough power to impose sharia.

Most Islamic authorities state that the moderate Meccan verses that permit everyone to hold their beliefs were abrogated by the intolerant Medinan verses, so they are not authoritative any more.

You know this as well as I do, so I don't know what your game is when you deny these things. If you are trying to hoodwink us, it won't work.

Ram Lala
Kavutaram, India
16/D-14
Apr 21, 2014
01:12 AM

Arun Kumar,

>> When in minority, these fanatical psuedo-secularists want secularism as a cloak until such time they become majority...

Moronic enemies of secularism, like this vicious hate pracharak Arun Kumar, are getting desperate!

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
17/D-17
Apr 21, 2014
01:29 AM

D.L.Narayan,

>> The intolerant policies of Pakistan or Saudi Arabia are being posited as justifications for silencing the advocates of PSEUDO-secularism in India.

You use such empty-headed shibboleths in order to support shameless hate merchants like Arun Kumar! Do you think at all before you click on the 'Submit" button?

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
18/D-19
Apr 21, 2014
01:36 AM

Ram Lala,

>> Most Islamic authorities state that the moderate Meccan verses that permit everyone to hold their beliefs were abrogated by the intolerant Medinan verses.

There were as many idiotic Islamic authorities as there were idiotic Hindu authorities who supported inhuman treatment of Dalits and widows. But your perfidy lies in bringing up religious issues while discussing Modi in the context of the current election campaign. If you want to answer me, address the things that I have said, not what your retarded mind thinks I believe.

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
19/D-21
Apr 21, 2014
01:42 AM

What happened to the Hindu paper? It publishes an unadulterated right wing opinion on how Modi is the new Reagan

www.thehindu.com/opinion/op-ed/is-india-about-to-elect-its-reagan/article5931362.ece

I am very very surprised that the Hindu, of all the papers and magazines, has the guts to open its edit page for a viewpoint that is diametrically opposite to the Paper's.. The paper needs to be applauded.

As for the article itself, it was top class.

Akash Verma
Chennai, India
20/D-28
Apr 21, 2014
02:44 AM

>>>>You use such empty-headed shibboleths

Pakistanis are our cousins from the same ethnic stock. Comparison with them is valid. When you look for precedents in Germany and Italy, what's wrong in citing events that are happening across our border?

D.L.Narayan
Visakhapatnam, India
21/D-51
Apr 21, 2014
08:04 AM

"There were as many idiotic Islamic authorities as there were idiotic Hindu authorities who supported inhuman treatment of Dalits and widows." CAIR pracharak

"Were?" There are literally thousands of influential imams all over the Muslim world who preach hate about needing to subjugate, convert or kill kaffirs. Do you see thousands of HIndu gurus or Christian priests preaching this kind of hate? No.

Don't try to obfuscate the issue with slippery language.

Ram Lala
Kavutaram, India
22/D-77
Apr 21, 2014
12:13 PM

@19/D

An article from a U S citizen with a pro-Modi stance.

A good article. The author has likened Modi to Ronald Reagan

 While Reagan was known for loss of memory now and then. While Modio forgets historical facts like locations of Taxila and Alexanders invasion and retreat etc!

I am not surprised that the Hindu published this pro-Modi article especially when the Newspaper,, only a few months back,, eased out  Sidharth Varadarajan!

R V Subramanian
Gurgaon, India
23/D-79
Apr 21, 2014
12:23 PM

D.L.Narayan,

>> Pakistanis are our cousins from the same ethnic stock. Comparison with them is valid.

The discussion was not about comparision at all. Arun Kumar had posted an RSS hate mantra which has been posted here before at least 50 times, namely, "while being fanatical followers of diversity-intolerant coercive fear-controlled belief systems, they lecture about diversity and pluralism to the Hindus."

The malicious message is that you should not speak up in support  of secularism if you are a Muslim. My reply to him was, "This RSS hate mantra has been posted in this forum about 50 times in the past 10 years! The intolerant policies of Pakistan or Saudi Arabia are being posited as justifications for silencing the advocates of secularism in India. . These sanghis who have so little ambition to make India a civilized example for the theocracies that surround us are the true anti-nationals in India."

Your reply to me, "The intolerant policies of Pakistan or Saudi Arabia are being posited as justifications for silencing the advocates of PSEUDO-secularism in India," was indeed empty-headed. You were supporting the very vicious insinuation that Arun Kumar had made.

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
24/D-80
Apr 21, 2014
12:34 PM

Ram Lala,

>> There are literally thousands of influential imams all over the Muslim world who preach hate about needing to subjugate, convert or kill kaffirs.

There are thousands of imams and VHP pracharaks who preach hate, but can you name an influential imam who today is preaching forcible conversion or killing of 'kafirs'? There are lots of different shades of Islam, but you know only the Wahhabi/Salafi morons. You bring up these issues in discussion of this article on Modi and his attempt to expand the Hindutva design because you do not want me to participate in such discussions. Attacks on the religions of discussants is what makes you a gutter level hate pracharak. You truly are a disgrace!

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
25/D-97
Apr 21, 2014
03:37 PM

All the SECULAR INTELLACTUALS Brigade of India were hoping earlier & praying now for Modi campaign to turn Communal which would help them churn out reams & reams of their Secular froth. Unfortunately for them Modi is constantly talking about Development Corruption & Progress. So now they have started INVENTING Communal Undertones in Modi's SECULAR discourse. At the same time they don't even mention the Congress's open appeal to the Imamsaahib for en block "SECULAR" votes. Tch Tch Tch Poor souls. 

Abhijit Kane
Mumbai, India
26/D-101
Apr 21, 2014
03:49 PM

Does this proud civilisation need only one family to sustain and lead it? Even though it is now manned by imbeciles and disoriented self seekers?

Congress will find a fate similar to the mughal empire.

As long as there is a emperor strong and capable the satraps and minions will tread with fear. Once there is a bumbling fool at the top then the empire will fall under the wight of its own internal contradictions.

Look at Rahul ANd Priyanka. Look at their body language.Look at their posturings.Listen to their insincere words and smirks which they cannot hide.

Does India deserve this?

saccha admi
mumbai, India
27/D-153
Apr 22, 2014
02:48 PM

@11D/52 Anwaar

There are 124 verses in the Holy Q that call for tolerance and patience. These have been cancelled and replaced by one single verse called the 'Verse of the Sword' Sura 9:5 revelaled to the Holy Prophet (PBUH) during the last few months of his life. Either it is unawarenes or practice of Taqiyya as permitted in the Holy Book. In this age every one has access to the holy literature of all the religions. Well there will be such verses in the holy books of other religions as well. But if you compare how Islam was spread and how its followers all over the world indulge in violence against other religionists in minority amongst them, it is but obvious that the verse is followed to the letter. As a Believer you cannot reject this verse because it is the imutable word of the Islamic God, the one and only God as per the believers. 

Venkat D
Bangalore, India
28/D-1
Apr 23, 2014
12:03 AM

Venkat,

>> There are 124 verses in the Holy Q that call for tolerance and patience. These have been cancelled and replaced by one single verse called the 'Verse of the Sword'.

Not according to modern Islamic scholars!

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
29/D-11
Apr 23, 2014
01:36 AM

>> Not according to modern Islamic scholars

Wasn't some jehadi preaching a few days back that most scholars are idiots, and to look for situation on the ground? Wonder who it was.

And if we look at the situation on the ground, in say Pakistan, or Bangladesh, or even Kashmir, the picture it paints is much worse than a vile work of Hussain.

Whats InAName
San Francisco, United States
30/D-55
Apr 23, 2014
09:17 AM

28/D-1 Anwaar

>> Not according to modern scholars.

Perfect example of Taqiyya! Else ignorance and living in denial. 

Venkat D
Bangalore, India
31/D-88
Apr 23, 2014
12:53 PM

Venkat,

>> Perfect example of Taqiyya!

What an insolent reply from an ignoramus!

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
32/D-50
Apr 24, 2014
07:40 AM

>>>this mans hubris knows no bounds. the disconnect with reality is getting evident by each passing day.

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Narendra Modi who was also voted as the most disliked figure in the world, with more people (166,260) voting no as against 164,572 voting yes for him.

kishoredasmunshi
Kolkatta, India
33/D-20
Apr 25, 2014
02:36 AM

11D 52 : nterposing religion in a discussion of politics, will always come up with any stuff to oppose anyone who supports secularism in India,

If you are discussing secularism in a country or the lack of- are you not already interposing religion and politics? 

You seem to be too focused on the rebuttals! Dont you see that you are diluting your own post thereby?

 
vasu
madras, USA
34/D-33
Apr 25, 2014
03:14 AM

Vasu,

>>  Interposing religion in a discussion of politics, will always come up with any stuff to oppose anyone who supports secularism in India.

The discussion is about secularism vs communalism, not secularism vs religion. No need to bring in matters of faith (Rama, Muhammed, Jesus, Quran, Gita, Bible etc) in political discussions. All attempts to do so have so far been in a very hateful or supremacist spirit, especially when one has no better argument to make.!

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
35/D-99
Apr 25, 2014
02:40 PM

In NDA there are politicians who crave for a MODI-MUKT NDA.
With tagodia and Giri I think there is a likelyhood of polarisation
after election. The thrust is to resist a fascist.


 

V.N.K.Murti Pattambi
PATTAMBI, India
36/D-136
Apr 25, 2014
09:01 PM
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Krupakar Kolbatla
Mumbai/Pittsburgh, India
37/D-64
Apr 26, 2014
10:53 AM

A struggling middle-class and a beleaguered nation can fight corruption and inflation under constitutional democracy, but how will the country prosper under a Gujarat “police state” model of development with simmering communal tensions ever ready to flare up in a majoritarian tilted democracy.

Mickie Sorabjee
Mumbai, India
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