Pakistan has Rehman Malik, we have Sushilkumar Shinde (Bombs In Our Houses, Feb 4). Miles ahead of anyone else in opening his mouth without engaging his brain.
'' India braces for more militants in Kashmir as US quits Afghanistan
SRINAGAR: India is bracing for more militancy in Jammu and Kashmir, believing that fighters now focused on resisting US-led troops in Afghanistan will shift toward the Himalayan flashpoint with Pakistan.
Some say increased violence recently along India's heavily militarized border with Pakistan proves that shift is already under way.
As a result, India is increasing use of drones, thermal sensors and foot patrols as it tries to catch out any battle-hardened militants moving through the forested mountains near the frontier. At the same time, Indian troops have increasingly been engaging in skirmishes with Pakistan's military.
Rebels "are testing us. They're making their presence felt by launching audacious attacks," an Indian Army commander in Kashmir said on condition of anonymity, in line with Army policy. "They have started recruiting young people into their folds. They are training some of these boys locally."
US officials and experts acknowledge there are valid concerns, though the US government has not discussed such a risk publicly. ''
The Progress of Jehadi Terror in India is progressing as predicted in my various posts.
Mariana Babbar's Article clearly shows the views of our Govt of India on Terror from across the Border.Our Govt 's thinking is also known .
We are in 2014 ,still USA has not withdrawn and the Pakistan has started arrayed Jehadi infiltrators on "GO " Mode but not given yet the Push Ahead Signal .
This just the beginning of the Terror Operations in India .By 2017 India will be looking like Pakistan with Terrorists exploding bombs at will in any city ,any time ,every where .
India has still some time to prepare and fight the marauders from across the Borders.But GOI has already shown its preference for liquidation of Saffron Terror as first priority.
Pray when did India faced the last Saffron Terror attack in 2004 or 2005 or 2006 or 2008 or ????? Where as the Indian Mujaheddin Terror attacks are on monthly basis at present . Soon these Terror activities of the Jihadi's will be on daily basis .
Are we preparing to meet Jihadi tsunami ?? No -Not at all !!
''The great trickle-down brainwash
Pakistan, being a victim of terrorism, should be clear about what terrorism means, but it is inclined to oppose the definition presented at the UN by the West, mainly because it doesn't want to allow the label to stick to the non-state actors who carry out cross-border attacks in Kashmir and India. This obfuscation of the term helps al-Qaeda get adherents to its agenda. The slogan in "victim" Pakistan is, the "war on terrorism" is not "our war". The slogan is so popular that Nawaz Sharif and Imran Khan rely on it to shore up their popular following.
In the Pakistanis' view, the real terrorism is the one committed by India in Kashmir and by the US in Iraq and Afghanistan. The Pakistan Peoples Party and, more outspokenly, Awami National Party (ANP) don't acquiesce to this al-Qaeda-boosting slogan and have lost popular support. Additionally, al-Qaeda targeted their leaders during the last elections and not let them campaign. They took part in the polls in Punjab and Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa on the assumption that they would lose to save their leaders from being exterminated. Can the elections of 2013 be called fair?
The police and the intelligence agencies help in this massive pro-al-Qaeda brainwash. After every act of terrorism that kills scores of innocent citizens, officers announce that the act was committed by foreign powers opposed to Pakistan. They name them too, but at times when the enemy is not named, people know they are the US, India and Israel. There are moments of embarrassment when the Taliban announces its involvement because it doesn't want the "credit" to go to the US-India-Israel trio. The newly developed "theory", which the Taliban despises, is: the Taliban are agents of the US and India, receiving money for killing innocent Pakistanis.
If al-Qaeda was once the master of hate speech, led by its leader Ayman al-Zawahiri, it has been superseded by the new hate-speech-mongers on social media, mouthing the same toxic rhetoric, only ratcheted up many-fold. Religious leaders backed by aggressive seminaries routinely empty their spleen on Islamabad and its enslavement by America, but the new bridegroom of hate speech is one called Zaid Hamid, who operates a fiery website pouring fire and brimstone on persons and organisations he doesn't like, calling them Indian agents who receive money from New Delhi. Since the youth no longer read newspapers, they lap up the foul defamatory broth and pass it on with added vituperations. Now everybody in Pakistan is into hate speech, including several of my nephews, whom I have started fearing.
Al-Qaeda has spread out into a disturbed Islamic world. Its presence in Yemen, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Nigeria, Mali and Egypt is so pronounced that one forgets that its headquarters are still in Pakistan because, after the death of bin Laden, its next leader, al-Zawahiri, is still here ""
So where is the hope for Pakistan to survive as a Nation with its Lacs of Jihadis armed to teeth roaming free ?? Even Paki Army can't control them all .Majority have gone out of control of Pak Army and some groups who are in Pak control don't bother what Generals want .
The Queda Inc aim is to Islamise Pakistan as a true Nation then capture another adherent to Jihadi Islam and march into weak India the Land of Kafirs and Islamise India .India is key for Queda to spread its policy in Far East Asia.
Till then keep Indians busy with IMs and while we are busy blaming Saffrons -Siculars games.
The current on going Terror acts in Jammu are nothing but to test the capabilities of Islamist Faujis being prepared by Queda Inc with co-operation of Pak Army who is fooled into believing that Queda is its friend .After all Pakistan kept Osama bin Laden from the USA for a decade plus .
Whether Pak was forced to betray Osam's presence in Abbotabad or USA hoodwinked Pakistan is another matter .
At best India can pretend to talk but it must simultaneously prepare for Final War of survival against War of Islamists .
But where are the funds ?? The days of Armament charity are over .And time left at hand for preparation War is extremely limited.
''The other militancy : Christophe Jaffrelot ''
In Pakistan, the Shia-Sunni conflict is causing a vertical split in society.
The jailbreak that took place in Dera Ismail Khan this summer was disturbing not only because the Taliban could liberate 248 fellow militants, but also because they took the time to single out and kill Shia prisoners. Sectarianism has indeed become a pervasive phenomenon in Pakistan — and a very violent one, as evident from the record number of casualties registered so far in 2013. This toll is due to the targeted killings of political leaders of the "other" community. But not only them, since both groups have diversified their targets. The Shias — doctors, civil servants and even army officers — have been the main victims. Both groups have also resorted to less discriminating methods, tipping over into mass crimes that aim not only to decapitate rival organisations, but terrorise the Other: blasts occur outside a mosque after the Friday prayer, suicide bombers decimate a procession or a family celebration, each time killing dozens of innocent people.''
Jafferlot's Article clears all the haze that Pak Army or Politiicans are in a condition to put back the Zin of Terror which was let out during Zia's Rule with no mean efforts by the USA .
Pakistan is now engaged in a very dangerous internecine internal Wars and it will finaly suck India too in this inferno of Jihadi Islamists when the Jihad Inc is free from Afghanistan and has tamed Pakistan too before the march of Mujahidins into India .To their advantage ISI has located 1200 + Advance Logistic Cells which have proved their battle readiness regularly in Terror attacks deep down in India with sufficient support likely by 2016-17
What Manmohan Singh expects from Nawaz Sherif to concede during talks and Pak Pm's contribution to control Terror towards India when Prez after USA Prezs with iron grip on Pak Army and Govt have failed ?? Even Mush failed to help Bush and Bajpai .
As stated many times 2016-17 is the year when India will become another Pak like State .
The best course for any Indian Govt would have been to arm & prepare Indian Army and also prepare the Nation for the future War .
But we are now only reduced to talking to powerless Paki Politicians and PMs .The time to prepare and Arm the Armed Forces has been completely wasted by our Govt in pursuing useless and unfruitful talks .
Pray what can Nawaz Sharif can give us when he is even in no position to protect Pakistan ??
[[Samjhauta Express, Ajmer, Hyderabad, Jalna, Purna, Margoo, Malegaon, Nanded, Tenkasi, Thana, Nagpur, Kanpur, Modasa, Panvel, Hubli, Goa.]]
Have any Hindu terrorists been convicted in any of the blasts you mentioned above? The responsibility for the Samjhauta blasts has also been claimed by some Paki terrorists. You are eager to pin it on Hindus because that would give you a reason to claim some sort of parity between extremists from both religions.
The fact remains that Muslim terrorists have been caught and convicted in several terrorist incidents in India, something that cannot be said about Hindu terrorists.
>> "isolated stray alleged incidents of violence by some Hindus."
Count the number of blasts: Samjhauta Express, Ajmer, Hyderabad, Jalna, Purna, Margoo, Malegaon, Nanded, Tenkasi, Thana, Nagpur, Kanpur, Modasa, Panvel, Hubli, Goa.
Your track record of constantly attempting to draw parallels and create bogus parity between SYSTEMIC global murderous Islamic fascism (as exemplified by near total elimination of minorities not only in Bangladesh and Pakistan but in Kashmir in the so called secular India) with isolated stray alleged incidents of violence by some Hindus (possibly as a result of frustration arising from rampant bullying and harassment of Hindus in their own land) is ample testimony of your real intent which is to give succour to your comrades in the frontline of their global crusade of domination.
Home Ministers: Shinde / Rehman Malik
Foreign Ministers: Salman Khurshid / Hina Rabbani Khar
The famed Indo-Pak rivalry with a difference - this time its looks like trying to out perform each other in choosing the most incompetent ministers. Hilarious but the tragedy is that it is the common folk who are suffering.
Shinde’s terror charge sparks advice, gloating, ACTION PLANS in Pakistan ' Mariana Baabar
ACTION PLAN No 1 :
Rehman Malik Interior Minister has sent an advise (most probably followed by an Official Advisory if we don't act ) to provide Security Cover to Shah Rukh Khan .
@ nasar..."RSS and BJP survive on the enmity between Pakistan and India.If ever there is a peace between these countries,RSS and BJP will die a natural death.Hence they ensure that the enmity and tension are maintained.In fact closer to the election they want skirmishes on the border.Media too is largely controlled by RSS....".
hahaha...your line of thinking is indeed laughable.
The problem with people like you is that you fail to recognize that your community's actions and keep blaming others for your problems. If you guys go to the West, you guys blame US, UK, Russia. If it is Middle-East, it is familiar Israel and Jews, If it is India, then Hindus and RSS. You and your community leaders want Hindus to acknowledge the so-called "Hindu terror" at the sametime none of you guys even have the courage to speak out against rabid lunatic fringe in your community. The fact is that you guys are experts in negationism and concealing the record of rabid elements within your community. Look with yourselves rather than asking other communities to "look within themselves".
Pakistan has Rahman Malik ; we have our own Sushiluudin Shindiqui. Miles ahead of any one else in opening his mouth without engaging his brain.
>> As a jihadi sympathiser, your position is entirely understandable.
Can you give some examples of my views that can be called jihadi? If you can't find any, please admit that you are a liar.
As a jihadi sympathiser, your position is entirely understandable.
>> Hafiz Saeed is an ally of Sonia.
Pradip Singh, you are due for another appointment with your psychiatrist.
The mafia and its stooges will go to any length to retain power including forging alliance with jihadi terrorists not only within the country but also outside. Hafiz Saeed is an ally of Sonia.
If this anti national cabal remains in power for too long, India will become an Islamic state. It has already happened in some parts eg. Shariyat law already almost in force in Kashmir valley.
Sorry you have badly tripped by posting Ram Punyani's link.The same link within one secon took me to Raja Ram the Historian who has wider recognisiation in West for his books and Articles on Jihadi Terrorism .
The discussion here is about Hindutva terrorism. Ram Puniyani has written extensively on the subject.
Faruki if you quote Ram Punyani then others will quote RamChandra .
You gave blogg for Hindu Terror .I just asked the same blogg for Islamic Terrorism just to check whether the blogg is linkedto one Religion .Pat came the RamChandra's link .
So how it helps ?
Neither Ram Puniyani nor Two Circles Net is banned.
>> But Shinde too connected Terrorism with Hindu Religion.
Calling it Hindu terrorism is wrong, but if Shinde had said that Hindu religion was the cause of terrorism, I would have been the first to protest. Please read this.
' muslim terror in india.
Anders Breivick cites N.S. Rajaram the Hindutva laden historian
Above quoted your link Communalism Blogg also writes about the Jihadi Terror .You will quote Ram Punayani Jhidai laden historian ( now banned officially if I am not wrong along with Two Circles Net ) others will quote NS Raja Ram Hindutav laden historian.
I hope atleast now the Secular hindu's will understand the reality and unite against this sickular B******.
You are venting your despicable communal hatred, but only idiots would consider terrorism to be connected with religion.""
But Shinde too connected Terrorism with Hindu Religion .You never cursed him .
>> Typical ISLAMIC FUNDOO "TAQUIA" comment.
You are venting your despicable communal hatred, but only idiots would consider terrorism to be connected with religion. Read this:
With enemies like Sushil Kumar Shinde,and Mani Shankar Iyer and Digvijay Singh who lost no time in jumping to his defence and vociferously endorsing his loose cannon volley, Hafiz Saeed and his terrorist and war mongering ilk in Pakistan need no friends.
>>Can Congress say it is encouraging terrorism as one of their ministers has been convicted,
No, such rules do not apply to Muslims, CAIR and Congress. In these cases, terrorists work in individual capacity. In case of RSS and BJP, they are terrorist organizations.
---------- True, but how are those two connected? -----
Typical ISLAMIC FUNDOO "TAQUIA" comment. ------------------ MUSLIMS will be as FANATICLY VIOLENT against all non-Muslims where ever MUSLIMS are in MAJORITY (even if happens to be PAKI MUSLIMS who were INDIAN MUSLIMS for more than 700 years till 1947) because " Muslims accept that they are bad" but insist on others being SECULAR where ever MUSLIMS are in MINORITY as "all others should not lower themselves to the level of FUNDOO MUSLIMS" -- very TAQUIA comment.
>>>> Associating terrorism with religions must be the hallmark of a shrinking minority of morons.
>> Name ONE ISLAMIC COUNTRY which gives EQUAL RIGHTS to NON-MUSLIMS.
True, but how are those two connected? I suppose you have to maintain your renowned uniformity! Do all your posts have to be equally stupid?
"Former Gujarat minister Mohammed Surti of the Congress party was convicted and sentenced to 20 years in jail for his involvement in the 1993 Surat blasts case. Can Congress say it is encouraging terrorism as one of their ministers has been convicted," BJP leader Venkaiah Naidu said at a function here.
------------------------------- Associating terrorism with religions must be the hallmark of a shrinking minority of morons. -------------------------
Name ONE ISLAMIC COUNTRY which gives EQUAL RIGHTS to NON-MUSLIMS. ---- Violence in AFPAK, EGYPT, SYRIA, MALE, LIBYA, NIGERIA, SOMALIA, BEHARINE, IRAQ etc etc have its origin in religion- Islam - Shia, Sunni, Wahabi Muslims fighting each other.
------------ RSS and BJP survive on the enmity between Pakistan and India ------------------------ PAKIs, PAKI ARMY & ISI survives on enmity with India and CONGRESS win Parliament Elections in India with MUSLIM VOTE. (only Parliament Election as Muslims vote for SP, BSP, TMC, JDS, DMK, MUSLIM LEAGUE, MIM, NC, PDP etc during state elections)
Given the ramification of what this Joker had said ,it is imperative that he gives evidence and credible evidence of RSS elements bieng involved or trained in terror.
Shinde should not be allowed to get away with this,Shinde owes this explanation.So long the farce of objecting religion bieng linked to terror has been exposed ,BJP indulged with it and and Congress is using it to get votes.
Shinde is better advised in asking the Maharasthra Govt to sack all those Rogue Cops who indulged in looting during the Dhule riots and get a Judicial enquiry done into Police excesses(bias) against a community.
BJP has succeeded in dividing the people on communal lines,Congress will divide the Nation.
Both parties are working for disintegration of India for political gains.People are taking sides and adopting rigid positions.Sad.
>> I see you've selectively quoted this sentence, which makes perfect sense to me.
Associating terrorism with religions must be the hallmark of a shrinking minority of morons.
The Congress electoral politics has stooped to such low levels that it would rather side with the enemies of India to tar its opposition as terrorists. Shame on you Sonia ...period.
>>> RSS and BJP survive on the enmity between Pakistan and India.If ever there is a peace between these countries,RSS and BJP will die a natural death
RSS and BJP survive on the enmity between Pakistan and India.If ever there is a peace between these countries,RSS and BJP will die a natural death.Hence they ensure that the enmity and tension are maintained.In fact closer to the election they want skirmishes on the border.Media too is largely controlled by RSS.
When the police,intelligence and burecracy connive it is state terrorism.Unlike the author says that most in India know of Hindutva terrorism, most of the Hindus beleive the oft repeated media projection that everything is the handiwork of Muslims.
Hindus are not ready to accept that there can be terrorists among Hindus.Hence this is the first time that Govt has acknowledged it is sending ripples and disbeleif.If Congress had done this before RSS would have contained and many innocent lives would not have lost.
Since the TERRORIST LABEL which stuck Muslims is difficult to be changed the effort is to do the next best thing- brand everyone else TERRORIST
Since the TERRORIST LABEL which stuck Muslims is difficult to be changed the effort is to do the next best thing- brand everyone else TERRORIST
I see you've selectively quoted this sentence, which makes perfect sense to me. So do you think India is a terrorist nation, like Pakistan? I know you think so with your imagined RSS/BJP plots. But if they were really that effective then Muslims would be 1-2% of the population like Pakistan. Low level terror and harrassment is much more effective than the occasional bomb blast, isn't it. Pakistan is a terrorist nation 24 hr a day, 365 days a year.
>> Since the TERRORIST LABEL which stuck Muslims is difficult to be changed.....
I must congratulate you on your uniformity. All your comments are equally stupid.
PAKI MUSLIMS who were INDIAN MUSLIMS for more than 700 years till 1947 has become the foutainhead of world terrorism. Since the TERRORIST LABEL which stuck Muslims is difficult to be changed the effort is to do the next best thing- brand everyone else TERRORIST - Hindu Terrorism which will be soon followed by Buddhist Terrorism, Jain Terrorism, SC Terrorism, ST terrorism, OBC Terrorism etc etc. ---------- Thus it will be established that ALL INDIAN RELIGIONs are TERRORIST. The ulterior motive for such comments is to get the MUSLIMS to vote for Congress in 2014 Parliament Election.
The Pakistanis are gloating but they are stunned and bemused as well. They don't understand the predicament of the Indian National Congress. It is getting desparate. It has nothing to go on.
And its bad times ahead for India. The Nehru Gandhi dynasty will disintegrate once the current elders retire. Expect more divide and rule. They will create a lot more trouble while it happens.
Shinde's statement shows that congress is desperate now. He knows winning next election is becoming impossible day by day. UPA may be thinking of banning BJP as the last resort.
Around 20 per cent of the territory in the so-called ‘red corridor’ is with Maoist militants. This is the right time for Pakistan to aggressively engage the UN on Kashmir,” says Gen Gul.
Well I hope Mr Shinde,Diggi and other bigwig Congress men now see the effects of Vote Bank cooing Statements .
For now, Pakistan is largely relieved—Shinde’s statement gives a certain parity between the two nations in their acknowledgement of one of the toughest challenges they face.''
Yes it helps Pakistan and perhaps also meant to clear the way for Manmohan Singh's visit to Pakistan in 2013 being the last year of his PM-ship.
Indians know very well that India faces toughest challenge from Pakistani-ISI State sponsored Terrorism in Kashmir,Punjab,Assam,Hyderabad and where not ?
30 alleged Hindu Terrorists whom the Govt could not even get convicted in the last 5 yrs do not pose a threat to any Nation .
But yes ,Shinde's Political loaded statement do ensures Votes for Congress so does it ensures as a reactionary Votes for BJP .
Unfortunately it seems the Congress never heard of Newton and his 3 Laws of Motion because Sinde's statement violates all the Three Laws !
“Pakistan already had ample Ammunition under his possession, all it lacked was a Matchbox which Shinde Ji obliged him with through his ‘Suicidal Slip Of Tongue’.”
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