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I feel sorry for the people and cricket players of Pakistan. I have no position or great insight into the decision of the IPL bidders but I do feel it’s an example of the world really not wanting to engage with the mess that is Pakistan.


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1/D-24
Jan 26, 2010
06:19 AM
I would recommend this article to purveyors of the Grand Unification Theory. We are different people now and face different challenges. We should all get used to it rather than dwell on sentiments from a generation whose long shadow has outlasted their utility.
vijay
Chennai, India
2/D-25
Jan 26, 2010
06:26 AM
Probabaly the OUTLOOK's secular jewel Saba Naqvi was waiting for some celebrity Muslims to speak on the IPL issue before airing her own.Its nothing but showing their real colors like how Sharukh whose heart was bleeding for the Pakistanis.We talk here of 'Aman Ki Aasha' and look how a responible Pakistani journalist is using abusive language against India and Hindus in particular like 'Bagal mai churi'.He must remember that Pakistanis and their sympathisers here in India are nothing better then 'serpent under your pillow'.Its good that the Pakistanis are shown their place.The country should have been banned on an international level following terrorist attacks on Srilankan players there.
vijayraj
Bangalore, India
10/D-39
Jan 26, 2010
07:49 AM
Its really unfortunate (if there is a deliberate political intent in excluding Pakistani players). Sports is actually an opportunity to forget artificial divisions like race, religion, even nationality etc and connect at a human level and enjoy the sport. Sports is an occasion to remind ourselves that at the end of the day we are all human after all. Humanity needs such reminder. Sports has played a great role in cutting many barriers in the past.
Kumar
Bangalore, India
11/D-42
Jan 26, 2010
08:00 AM
Perhaps PC found it necessary to make such a statement in order to appease his Deobandi Mullah masters, before whom, it's been said, he'd recently prostrated himself on all fours, begging for their continued support and friendship come poll-time- just from the grapevine- can't attest to its veracity.
Bodh
Springfield, United States
12/D-47
Jan 26, 2010
08:42 AM
Vijayraj,

Listen to the song given in this link. Hope it helps you to come to a better state of mind.

http://blogs.outlook...ddm=10&pid=2173&eid=
Kumar
Bangalore, India
13/D-52
Jan 26, 2010
09:22 AM
B:>>"Perhaps PC found it necessary to make such a statement"

bec the chennai team in IPL is being owned by india cememts, some B-group, and not some company of chettiars like him, supposed to be the really rich group in TN, not even by some member of the karunanidhi dynasty! PC might deny security for any ipl matches held in TN, cooking up some reason for it.

in the meeting yesterday, celebrating 60 years of EC, the PM made the most significant speech, as watched on DD, that the most deplorable element of indian elective democracy is the very poor quality and lack of professionaly honest elements in the politicians that get elected for the states and he centre. No wonder that his speech has been completely ignored by the entire print and electronic media, in corrupt league with the criminal politicians that rule the country today.
Dr.V.Seshadri
chennai, India
14/D-60
Jan 26, 2010
11:59 AM
How can one take off one's mind that a Mulla,with flowing beard and in shabby dress,egging on Pakistanis to shout 'Pakistan zindabad' at every match against India.How can one forget the supporters giving a golden sword to Miandad,after that last ball sixer,giving win to Pak at Sharja.How can one forget Pak players doing namaz on the pitch after beating India.So,when Paki players treat India as a religious enemy,why should they be allowed to come here and make money in IPL,when Cricket is not just a game but an extended arm of Hindu baiting for them?
S.S.Nagaraj
Bangalore, India
15/D-65
Jan 26, 2010
12:46 PM
All those indulging in chest beating for not selecting Pak Cricketers for IPL must spare a thought for our soldiers- for the widows who received honours during RD Parade. There are many more unsung soldiers also KILLED-killed by the PAK JEHADI TEAM. How can any Indian want anything to do with PAK when they are sponsoring killing of INDIANS??? DOES "IPL TEAM OWNERS" want to indirectly sponsor killing of Indian Soldiers- the Pak Cricketers will pay tax to PAK GOVT on the millions they earn in India during IPL, part of which will fund JEHADI KILLINGS??? India should cut off all relation with Pakistan till PAK ARMY stops pushing JEHADIS to India. If anyone is so unhappy about non-selection of PAK Cricketers for IPL let them organise a PPL and keep all Indian Cricketers out. If politics should not be mixed with sports so should KILLINGS- KILLINGS also should not be mixed with politics.
Akil
Bangalore, India
16/D-1
Jan 27, 2010
12:47 AM
Kumar says:

"Sports is actually an opportunity to forget artificial divisions like race, religion, even nationality etc "

And what happens when those 1-2 months of sports are over? Does anything change substantially vis-a-vis religious enimity, fundamentalism, thirst for innocent blood? We have been playing this sports for what, 60-70 years now? Did that improve anything, or have things become worse?

If sports could solve anything, we'd be one country living like brothers in a utopian paradise. To believe that sports can bridge what are very touch challenges is to live is a fool's paradise.
Ninad Huilgol
Sunnyvale California, United States
17/D-4
Jan 27, 2010
01:31 AM
Ninad and Akil, very good remarks. There is definitely a concern that money made by Pakistan's cricket team will go to funding Islamic terrorists in Kashmir and elsewhere. And so true about cricket/sport doing very little, if anything, to reduce hostility in Pakistan. It's been 60 years, and there has been hardly any change. Incidentally, one Pakistani cricketeer, Akhtar, has a close link to terrorism: his cousin was a terrorist in the Harkat-Ul-Ansar, trying to kill Indians in Kashmir.

Good for the IPL, that it refused to select any of these people.
Varun Shekhar
Toronto, CANADA
18/D-5
Jan 27, 2010
01:32 AM
Ninad Huilgol,

>> And what happens when those 1-2 months of sports are over? Does anything change substantially vis-a-vis religious enimity, fundamentalism, thirst for innocent blood?
>> If sports could solve anything, we'd be one country living like brothers in a utopian paradise.

I did not say that sports can solve all problems. There are factors that enhance meaningless egos, power hungriness, greed etc. And there are some other factors that remind us of our shared humanity, human values etc. Sports is one such thing that comes in the latter category. Imagine the moment a black man had defeated a white man in an athletic meet in the hey days of racism and the white man had to bow down and accept defeat. That may not solved racism altogether, but it must have had a positive impact. Agreed that there are problems with Pakistan, but it is not as if God created Indians and Pakistan as inherently and essentially good/evil people etc in black and white? Can’t we foresee and hope for a future where such evil/hostilities diminish and better sense prevails? Now, imagine the sight of popular Indian players and popular Pakistani players, say on the same side forgetting the whole world and sweating it out with all their heart/mind/soul for the same side, celebrating together etc? Or even in a normal India Vs Pakistan matches, where we win one day and lose another day etc, all this reminds us that we are all human after all, with the same aspirations, feelings etc and that we can rise above pointless egos, power hungriness, greed etc. Sports only helps as a factor that promotes better sense (more so, as it is very popular and viewed by millions with great interest). I see a lack of Pakistani players in this IPL as a lost opportunity. Hope this can be corrected quickly.
Kumar
Bangalore, India
19/D-6
Jan 27, 2010
01:46 AM
""Sports is actually an opportunity to forget artificial divisions like race, religion, even nationality etc "

And how has the great cricketing initiatives worked out? Say in 2003 there was a great bhai bhai tournament. WHat happened?

There is nothing wrong in boycotting a country if political situation warrants it. Sport is subservient to politics-not the other way round. And as things stand now, Pakis are enemies of India and they need to be made aware of that fact.

AND NO INDIAN MONEY SHOULD GO INTO FUNDING OUR COUNTRIES ENEMIES.PERIOD. IPL is funded by Indian money predominantly and as such only Indians and its friends should benefit-not the enemies.
Ganesan
Nj, USA
20/D-7
Jan 27, 2010
01:55 AM
>> There is nothing wrong in boycotting a country if political situation warrants it.

I agree (for example South Africa was boycotted for apartheid). If India thinks that such a thing is warranted and wants to take such formal/open decision that is announced, that is fine. But there is no such announcement as of now. The Pakistani players are actually invited to participate.
Kumar
Bangalore, India
21/D-8
Jan 27, 2010
01:56 AM
"There are factors that enhance meaningless egos, power hungriness, greed etc. And there are some other factors that remind us of our shared humanity, human values etc"

This has nothing to with egos, power hungriness and greed. Private franchises feel rejecting pakistani player based on current political situation post 26/11, then be it. When country sponsors cold blooded murderers to kill innocent people, the talk of humanity and human values sound hollow and superficial.
Maha
NJ, United States
22/D-9
Jan 27, 2010
01:58 AM
"But there is no such announcement as of now. The Pakistani players are actually invited to participate."

Finally I can agree something with you. They should not have been allowed in the bidding process to begin with.
Ganesan
Nj, USA
23/D-10
Jan 27, 2010
02:04 AM
Maha,

>> >> "There are factors that enhance meaningless egos, power hungriness, greed etc. And there are some other factors that remind us of our shared humanity, human values etc"

>> This has nothing to with egos, power hungriness and greed. Private franchises feel rejecting pakistani player based on ..


You have misunderstood me. I did not say that rejecting Pakistani players amounts to ego, power hungriness and greed. I was explaining that there are some factors (in general) which enhance/portray ego, power hungriness and greed, while there are some other factors that remind us of our shared humanity, human values etc - and I was telling that sports comes in the second category.
Kumar
Bangalore, India
24/D-11
Jan 27, 2010
02:05 AM
Kumar,

"Sports is actually an opportunity to forget artificial divisions like race, religion, even nationality etc "

It looks like you have not read the comments by made pakistani cricketer Sohail Tanvir in the Saba's article.
Maha
NJ, United States
25/D-12
Jan 27, 2010
02:13 AM
Kumar said

"but it is not as if God created Indians and Pakistan as inherently and essentially good/evil people etc in black and white? Can’t we foresee and hope for a future where such evil/hostilities diminish and better sense prevails? "

Not as long as Pakistanis are being taught that (mind, you *taught* as in curriculum) Indians are essentially crafty, that Mughals were rulers of India, that Hindus are essentially to be faught as enemies of Islam.

Cricket will not change the curriculum and nascent belief. Cricket cannot eradicate oppressive poverty that leads some people to believe the only way out of the hellish life they lead is to die a martyr, killing innocents.

What Cricket (well, IPL) *might* do is to make a few people rich, those same people who may or may not give to charities who may or may not have shady ties to terrorist organisations. That's a big if, I agree. However, symbolically, banning Pakistani players from IPL is very significant, and from the looks of it, something that majority of Indians agree upon.
Ninad Huilgol
Sunnyvale California, United States
26/D-14
Jan 27, 2010
02:19 AM
>> It looks like you have not read the comments by made pakistani cricketer Sohail Tanvir in the Saba's article.

Ok, I did not see it (I have read up to the video and did not notice the text below). It is a really unfortunate comment to make. I don’t know how they can talk like that on TV. While we see all kind of comments made on blogs like this, I have not seen such open labeling of entire community like that on Indian TV (at least the channels I watch). That’s unfortunate.
Kumar
Bangalore, India
27/D-16
Jan 27, 2010
02:30 AM
Kumar said;

"I have not seen such open labeling of entire community like that on Indian TV (at least the channels I watch). That’s unfortunate."

Yes, that's precisely the problem. We may have been created equal, but circumstances have changed us in ways that are seemingly intractable.

When Sri Lankan cricket team was being attacked, most commentators were of the opinion that the attacks were master minded by a 'foreign country', i.e: India.

It's just to hammer home this point, which even this columnist makes: Pakistan is in denial. Cricketing relations, people relations - these are just anodynes who's effect is insgnificant. The cancer, as they say, has metastasized. Probably too late to save the patient at this point with pain killers like Cricket.
Ninad Huilgol
Sunnyvale California, United States
28/D-17
Jan 27, 2010
02:33 AM
Ninad Huilgol,

>> >> "but it is not as if God created Indians and Pakistan as inherently and essentially good/evil people etc in black and white? Can’t we foresee and hope for a future where such evil/hostilities diminish and better sense prevails? "

>> Not as long as Pakistanis are being taught that (mind, you *taught* as in curriculum) Indians are essentially crafty, that Mughals were rulers of India, that Hindus are essentially to be faught as enemies of Islam.

All such beliefs, curriculum etc constantly being challenged/questioned/condemned etc and the supporters of such things are under tremendous pressure (in fact it is that pressure turning some of them into radicals as they can’t debate anymore). They have to face global debates on such things, face condemnation of such things etc. The radicals are trying to hold fort, but sooner or later, better sense will have to prevail and things can change. Now, I agreed in the other post that things can be such that India may decide to announce a boycott of sports with Pakistan, which is fine. But the reason any country tries not to do such a thing, as far as possible (even Iran and US play sports in same tournaments) is due to the hope it still holds at some level - that one day better sense may prevail, that we can still try to remind ourselves of shared humanity, human values etc. Hostilities need to be a permanent state of affairs. Things can change.
Kumar
Bangalore, India
29/D-18
Jan 27, 2010
02:38 AM
>> When Sri Lankan cricket team was being attacked, most commentators were of the opinion that the attacks were master minded by a 'foreign country', i.e: India.

That is living in denial. I would think that even that will have to change in course of time. Such positions/attitude/arguments cannot face debate and will eventually run out of steam.
Kumar
Bangalore, India
30/D-19
Jan 27, 2010
02:48 AM
Kumar said:

"Such positions/attitude/arguments cannot face debate and will eventually run out of steam."

One can only hope. This is where you and I are of different opinions.

I believe that poverty and lack of education are not easy things to overcome, and I am not that hopeful things will change. (may be in 200 years, may 1000, but not in my lifetime)
Ninad Huilgol
Sunnyvale California, United States
31/D-22
Jan 27, 2010
03:03 AM
Ninad Huilgol,

>> but not in my lifetime

May be, but I believe, we owe it to our children and future generations (and to God, if you believe), to hold out some hope, where there is even a remotest possibility. Or do/support whatever is in our power (without jeopardizing security etc) to hold out such a hope for a better future and better humanity.
Kumar
Bangalore, India
32/D-26
Jan 27, 2010
03:49 AM
Kumar,

"Ok, I did not see it (I have read up to the video and did not notice the text below). It is a really unfortunate comment to make. I don’t know how they can talk like that on TV. While we see all kind of comments made on blogs like this, I have not seen such open labeling of entire community like that on Indian TV (at least the channels I watch). That’s unfortunate."

And you still think that these cricketers should be invited to perform in IPL to overcome this artificial division like race, religion ?
With this kind of attitude, they deserve this humiliation.
Maha
NJ, United States
33/D-28
Jan 27, 2010
04:37 AM
there is news that the paki guys might get invited after all.....to each his own sensibility. atleast sohail tanveer should have some zameer left in him (assuming he had it to begin with) and not play in the IPL after what he has said about 'hindu zehniyat'. shame on sohail and shame on that tv channel in pakistan....here in India there might be a muslim situation and there might be several folks who have a bigger problem with that situation but never heard anybody mouthing s*it like 'muslim zehniyat' on tv.....the critter should atleast have thought about his fellow hindu-pakistanis when he used that phrase.
safiuddin
warangal, india
34/D-30
Jan 27, 2010
05:11 AM
It's natural for people to first feel disappointed and then angry and then perhaps outraged, if it seems they've been discriminated against, but to vent such vitriol against all Hindus, like this Sohail guy did, on TV mind you, is totally unwarranted, and frankly, unpardonable.
Bodh
Springfield, United States
35/D-41
Jan 27, 2010
07:38 AM
KUMAR SAYS - "Sports only helps as a factor that promotes better sense. I see a lack of Pakistani players in this IPL as a lost opportunity. Hope this can be corrected quickly".

MUMBAI ATTACK 26/11 occurred after IPL-1 where PAK Crickters and many Indians played on the same side for the first time. So why couldn't sports have any effect on the MASSACRE when KASAB claims to be a fan of CRICKET. IPL has displayed courage far beyond even our GOVT. India should have cut off all contacts with PAK as long as PAK JEHADI TEAMS are killing Indians. How can any Indian enjoy CRICKET in which PAK players are playing when PAK ARMY and ISI are planning ways to push in the PAK JEHADI TEAM to kill Indians?? PAK should be boycotted by India till PAK ARMY stops supporting KILLINGS in India.
Akil
Bangalore, India
36/D-44
Jan 27, 2010
09:45 AM
Communal mind-set is to be found everywhere in the Indian sub-continet --especially so, in India as well as in Pakistan. Nothing unusual about that . But one is shocked to watch this communal vitriolic being publicly displayed by a ATV hostess, a sports journalist as well as a disgruntled Pakistani cricket star on ATV . Mercifully such communal jingoism is not displayed on the Indian TV shows. That Hindus are crafty Banias, will not hesitate to back-stab a non-Hindu, saying "Ram..Ram " on your face ! What rubbish !! It is one thing to nurse such self-serving nasty views in one's own mind , but it is different to shamelessly verbalise them in public. Shame on ATV !!!

G.Niranjan Rao
Hyderabad, India
G. Niranjan Rao
Hyderabad, Andhra Pradesh, India
37/D-82
Jan 27, 2010
04:42 PM
In the sub-continental context a "Baniya" essentially is a person or community of people who lends money and trades in daily consumer staples like grains, sugar, spices etc.

Putting it in the Pakistani perspective, one should know that most upper caste Hindus and Sikhs, although in a numerical minority in the land which is now Pakistan, were either money-lenders or traders and big Zamindars before the partition. Obviously this essential societal of a "Baniya" role over the years became exploitative and as the majority mostly Sunni Muslim farmers, labourers or petty craftsmen converted from low caste Hindus, they developed a well entrenched grudge against the local village "Lala" or "Baniya" who lent them money to buy their essential supplies [from them] resulting in a perpetual debt trap for the peasantry; a situation not very dissimilar to all over India too.

When creation of Pakistan became an almost certainty and riots spreads from cities to the country side, both in undivided Punjab and Bengal, this old grudge took on a ugly communal complexion. While in India, the fires of these communal passions were sucessfully doused by a genuine secularly constituated state, land reforms and abolition of Zamindari system, Pakistan has basically remained a feudal society fuelled by extremist Islam and failure of democracy to find any traditional roots.

In India the whole community of Vaishyas e.g. Mittals, Goyals, Bansals of this world are all circumsized and abused derogately as "Baniya". However, to likes of Pakistanis of Suhail Tanvi's "zahaniyat" all Indians are Baniyas ...
Vijay Agarwal
Northampton, United Kingdom
38/D-90
Jan 27, 2010
06:13 PM
Reads better::

In the sub-continental context a "Baniya" essentially is a person or community of people who lend money and trade in daily consumer staples like grains, sugar, spices etc.

Putting it in the Pakistani perspective, one should know that most upper caste Hindus and Sikhs, although in a numerical minority in the land which is now Pakistan, were either money-lenders or traders and big Zamindars before the partition. Obviously this essential societal role of a "Baniya" over the years became exploitative, and the majority mostly Sunni Muslim farmers, labourers or petty craftsmen converted from low caste Hindus developed a well entrenched grudge against the local village "Lala" or "Baniya" who lent them money to buy their essential supplies [from them] resulting in a perpetual debt trap for the peasantry; a situation not very dissimilar to all over India too.

When creation of Pakistan became an almost certainty and riots spreads from cities to the country side, both in undivided Punjab and Bengal, this old grudge took on an ugly communal complexion. While in India, the fires of these communal passions were sucessfully doused by a genuine secularly constituated state, land reforms and abolition of Zamindari system, Pakistan has basically remained a feudal society fuelled by extremist Islam and failure of democracy to find any traditional roots.

In India the whole community of Vaishyas e.g. Mittals, Goyals, Bansals of this world are all circumsized and abused derogatively as "Baniya". However, to likes of Pakistanis of Suhail Tanvi's "zahaniyat" all Indians are Baniyas ...
Vijay Agarwal
Northampton, United Kingdom
39/D-111
Jan 27, 2010
11:13 PM
"In India the whole community of Vaishyas e.g. Mittals, Goyals, Bansals of this world are all circumsized and abused derogatively as "Baniya". However, to likes of Pakistanis of Suhail Tanvi's "zahaniyat" all Indians are Baniyas ...

Vijay Agarwal"

That's disgusting, Vijay. Merchants and businessmen and industrialists are by and large people who contribute constructively to the Indian or any economy. The word "bania" as a derogatory term has got to go. It's too bad a few Indians are behaving like the morons and idiots in Pakistan, using archaic words and stereotypes.
Varun Shekhar
Toronto, CANADA
40/D-4
Jan 28, 2010
01:53 AM
Saba its time you stand up and call spade a spade,why take the freedom of expression the Country offers to belittle the sentiments of its very itizens who face attack every day.What ever was done was done keeping the sentiments and ground situation in mind.When we arnt ready to resume bilateral series ,why have these jerks.U should be off your head by ignoring the loss of big bucks which is driving the impoverished pak brigade to make intemperate statements such as Afridi did.Is that Cricket for you.The jerk said that they hhave humiliated us and his great country.Whatever personally I dont want Afridi coming to India unless he makes a unconditional apology for making wild senseless charges against a private league and my country.Why does he not ask the Taliban to start a PPL so that he can show case his talents.SABA you are going overboard by blaming the IPL.pL GET YR FACTS RIGHT.
drharun
chennai, India
41/D-5
Jan 28, 2010
02:05 AM
coming to what Sohail Tanvir said there is no way he is going to be allowed to come to India.Who the hell is he to make sweeping charges about people by calling them what he did.The asshole isnt wanted in his own Team ,why is he that desperate to play in India.The pakis got the treatment they deserved.Having read quite a few of your articles I must confess that you havent come down heavily on these jerks.I fully agree with the sentiments expressed by my fellow bloggers on the whole issue.
drharun
chennai, India
42/D-6
Jan 28, 2010
02:08 AM
Varun

But these are the facts ... even Mahatma Gandhi was abused as such. The richest man in UK and the richest Indian Lakshmi Mittal, the guy who was so disgusted with Jyoti Basu's WB in particular and central govt that he left Calcutta (sorry Kolkata) and made UK his home. He now runs the biggest steel empire of the world. He was abused too as such ... so were Birlas, Singhanias etc.
Vijay Agarwal
Northampton, United Kingdom
43/D-8
Jan 28, 2010
04:29 AM
On one hand Pak PM says Pak cannot prevent another 26/11 from its soil and on the other hand Pak players cry when not selected by IPL teams. It is time pak got over its sense of entitlement. It was hilarious to watch pak players shed crocodile tears for the lost crores.

>>G.Niranjan Rao

Having communal mindset and it being officially endorsed and taught are two different things. It was aired with such non-chalance because it is the belief of majority of pakistanis and it is the official line of pak govt and it is taught in pak schools.

Pakistanis need to ask themselves if the situation was reversed and PPL was being played in Pak and there were frequent attacks from Indian soil would they allow Indians to play in PPL ?
JayKay Chraborty
Kolkatta, India
44/D-40
Jan 28, 2010
02:56 PM
Naqvi

its very clear what pakistani's think or talk about india.

what people are yet to realize are your kind who belongs there but unfortunately for hindus remain here.
Ram
Deoband, India
45/D-43
Jan 28, 2010
04:09 PM
i was watching tv yesterday where there was a clip on something like 'big fight' on ndtv with prannoy roy presiding with shah rukh khan being the guest. according to srk it was shameful that the pakistanis were not bought by anybody. according to him pakistanis are "great neighbours". i request him to tell it again to the victims of the next terror attack. and after such attacks even normal pakistanis are neither sympathetic nor show regret. because they are primarily brainwashed from childhood to be anti-india. and these are "great neighbours"?
nandakumar
chennai, india
46/D-57
Jan 28, 2010
06:24 PM
Even if the muslims in india were pointed to what is said on pakistan what is the use...

its the matter of UMMAH [the brotherhood] they dont see evil in their own its always the others...

Example Jawed Naqvi, supposedly an indian , who writes in dawn newspaper of pakistan...read his latest master piece on occasion on Republic day:

http://www.dawn.com/...aves-dream-810-zj-05

Partition in 1947 was sooooo good...it cleansed a whole lot of scum from india at very high cost....but it wasnt enough cleansing for the price we paid..and we have to endure the curse of the the leftover's...who have a sense of entitlement to top it all..
Ram
Deoband, India
47/D-60
Jan 28, 2010
06:49 PM
""according to srk it was shameful that the pakistanis were not bought by anybody. according to him pakistanis are "great neighbours""

SRK must convince the WIDOWS of SOLDIERS KILLED BY JEHADIS and the parents of Major Sandeep Unnikrishnan about the "greatness of Pakis as our neighbour"!!!!!!!!
Akil
Bangalore, India
48/D-81
Jan 28, 2010
11:06 PM
Shah Rukh Khan took advantage of his popularity with the young cinema going crowd and said: They are great neighbours, let's love them.

The teenage audience burst into applause!

His word, his body language, his facial expressions, his manner, all indicated that he did not take the seriousness of the problems that India faces with this 'great neighbour'.

Thousands of dead jawans, hundreds of terror victims, lives displaced (375,000 Kashmiri Hindus forcible expelled, many were actually killed, after eyes were gouged out, bodies sawed, rape and murder) and the difficulties that the Hindus face in J&K, the cross border terror, the draining of India's resources etc.

And he calls them 'great' neighbours!

Shah Rukh Khan has led a charmed life. It is time the Indian public realised what these 'beautiful' people are up to, what their real agenda is .
Dr. Vijaya Rajiva
Montreal, Canada
52/D-37
Jan 29, 2010
09:32 AM
However tenuous the nexus between Pakistani cricketers and Pakistani terrorists may be, the IPL bidding has provided an opportunity to the right wing extremists to hold forth on the subject in this forum with gusto. It may be good to air one's animus openly with peer validation from time to time, but cricket will probaly never be the same again.
Anwaar
Dallas, United States
53/D-55
Jan 29, 2010
02:21 PM
I just find it impossible to believe that SRK who has recd so much adulation in his country can appear in a tv discussion anchored by JNU leftists and declare that we have a "great neighbour".

One can understand his roots from the frontier land and that he is a Pathan by birth, but wouldn't saying something like that encourage the Jihadis, Taliban and AlQaeda who are firmly entrenched in these badlands in their fanaticism, hostility and terrorist activities towards India ...

What was he or his anchor trying to prove ???
Vijay Agarwal
Northampton, United Kingdom
54/D-71
Jan 29, 2010
10:16 PM
Request my fellow bloggers to read my take on what Saba wrote and Coming to SRK.I do not subscribe to SRK s cinematic take on the pakis.SRK should be well aware that as a great neighbour as he calls them,SRK must remember that be 26/11 or militancy in Kashmir the pakis havent acted responsibly at all.So why entertain pakis in the IPL.The way thinks have been dealt with by the pakis be it Hafiz Sayed or LET ,the people of India have there reservations on having pakis here.
Reading messers Akil ,Ram and Akils take they have tried to vitiate a issue by indulging in slander.These jerks have taken SRK take on pakis in IPL to call All Indian Muslims sympathetic to pakis as they belong to islamic Ummah,This is disgustind and despicable it exposes the screwed up mindset which these blokes have,to every decent soul these guys are purely mentally sick and need to be in a asylum.
drharun
chennai, India
55/D-75
Jan 29, 2010
11:26 PM
India should have no ties whatsoever, in cricket or anything else, with these idiots across the border. Why all this apologia and hand wringing about the non-selection issue? What's wrong with the Indian media and certain Indians?
Varun Shekhar
Toronto, CANADA
56/D-25
Jan 30, 2010
09:35 AM
Does any one know if any any Indian media sources have picked up on this? If some unofficial channels are to be believed, many news organisations are unwilling to run this story as they deem it "too provocative".
Prakash Kumar
New Delhi, India
59/D-38
Jan 30, 2010
12:55 PM
dear vijay
manmohan singh,chidambaram/sharukh khan r 1000 times more popular than the bania lalit modi who wants to play bjp card after being defeated twice in the rajasthan cricket association.
if tamilnadu cm threatens to stop srilankans for massacring innocent tamils will the franchise owners follow. thackeray is against australians now. so what will the bania modi do now.close IPL OR fall at the feet of all and sundry to continue making money.
ganapathi
chennai, India
60/D-49
Jan 30, 2010
03:24 PM
>> bania lalit modi who wants to play bjp card

pathetic, castiest, down right disgusting
Vijay Agarwal
Northampton, United Kingdom
61/D-53
Jan 30, 2010
04:47 PM
It was amusing to watch SRK stating that he was humiliated by the fact that the Paki players were not selected....duh, hero - you are the owner of a team, so why didn't you go ahead and bid for them.

Even more amusing was Prannoy Roy saying "It was humiliating for all of us" - did you take a poll Sir? Dont generalise and trivialise.
Chanakya
Dubai, United Arab Emirates
62/D-66
Jan 30, 2010
08:22 PM
"It was amusing to watch SRK stating that he was humiliated by the fact that the Paki players were not selected....duh, hero - you are the owner of a team, so why didn't you go ahead and bid for them."

Exactly.What a hypocrite. IPL had paki players for sell. He owns a franchise and could have easily bought the players. Also with attitude of media, the pakistanis know they can get away with terror attacks while their players making money with indian league.
Maha
NJ, United States
63/D-5
Jan 31, 2010
12:38 AM
Those 'Indians' whose heart is bleeding because the Paki cricketers were not selected for IPL need a dose of reality.Why should India allow cricketers & for that matter the likes of Adnan etc etc, come over to India to mint money, while our soldiers are being killed in Kashmir by ISI sponsored Islamic terrorists? Not so long, Pak 'in house' terror outfits killed nearly 200 of our people in Mumbai.Pak is an enemy country. We must have nothing to do with that hate filled ,primitive country.Incidentally if wiggy,short arse-Shah Rukh-'Inshah Allah' Khan ,loves the Paki cricketers so much, why didn't he buy a few? A bloody hypocrit!
Hriday
London, United Kingdom
64/D-22
Jan 31, 2010
04:33 AM
Ok it was a communal decision and we should have the balls to say so. we simply abhor the pakistani terrorists and we do not want them in our country. DURING THE 2008 IPL TOURNAMENT WHEN SAHID AFRIDI WAS PLAYING FOR THE DECCAN CHARGERS, HE GOT OUT TO A RIDICULOUS SHOT AND WAS LAUGHING ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE PAVILLION. AN IRRATE ZAHEER ABBAS CONFRONTED HIM AND ASKED HIM WHAT WAS ALL THIS LAUGHING AND THE SHOT ABOUT TO WHICH AFRIDI REPLIED " I DO NOT CARE, I HAVE ONLY COME TO TAKE MONEY FROM THE HINDU KAFIRS" YES KAFIRS! ZAHEER NARRATED THIS TO AN ICONIC FORMER INDIAN TEST CRICKETER WHO IN TURN TOLD A FRIEND OF MINE IN MUMBAI. These are the low level scums we are talking about.
Harish
london, United Kingdom
69/D-280
Feb 01, 2010
03:44 PM
The Pakistani is welcome to his views, but as an Indian, may I ask, in what capacity do we engage with the Pakistan administration? If a Pakistani feels that a Hindu is deceitful, then I empathise with him, but in what capacity does the Indian government engage the Pakistan government? It seems, that the Pakistan government wants to hold talks, to comfort themselves, that they are doing their bit, or to show their fellow Pakistani's that they are making an effort, to stave off a massive uprising. The Pakistani may feel hurt towards Hindu's, but it is a matter of immense privilege to have Pakistan as a neighbour. Is it possible for the Indian to make Pakistan not feel hurt?
Aditya Mookerjee
Belgaum, India
70/D-46
Feb 03, 2010
07:00 AM
DRHARUN- "tried to vitiate a issue by indulging in slander".

Indicate the specific comment of such nature. The VENOM has been directed against PAKIS- more specifically against the PAKI ARMY and ISI. I stand my comment that it is "the PAKI ARMY &ISI" which is the root of all evil PAKI society. How can comments against PAKI ARMY and ISI be communal??

Even SRK was advised only to convince the "WIDOWS and ORPHANS" of soldiers killed by PAKI JEHADIS about the "greatness of Pakis as our neighbour", a thought which came up on seeing "CHAKRAS" being awarded to widows of dead soldiers on Republic Day. Where does YOUR comment "All Indian Muslims sympathetic to pakis as they belong to islamic Ummah", fit in????? Indian IPL teams paying billions to PAKIS to play cricket in India while PAKI JEHADIS are killing Indians is NOT acceptable to many Indians??? If cricket could bring nations together why did 26/11 Mumbai attack occur after IPL-1????
Akil
Bangalore, India
71/D-185
Feb 03, 2010
11:57 PM
dear akil dont we have a ambassodor there in pak and viceversa.what we gained by stopping permission to pak commercial planes to fly over our air space and in the bargain losing more by not getting permission for our planes over there air space.
why r u so pak centric and keep silent on srilanka where the singalese massacre the tamils since decades.what has a jayasuriya got to do with it and its the same with sohail tanvir and co.will terrorism stop if pak players dont play here.there r thousands of soldiers who lost their life in srilanka during ipkf which was more than the 65 and 71 wars put together.it was due to the deceitful support by the srilankan politicians and tamil tigers. r we not hugging the rajapakses now.what about those war widows.
usa killed lakhs and still childen r born with deformities in hiroshima nagasaki.for that crime americans should never be allowed in japan for 500yrs. the same with us where the us refuses to extradite the union carbide chairman which killed 25000 and maimed several lakhs in bhopal. r we not licking them.its just a brahminical ploy to make pak an enemy and ignore the real ones.
ganapathi
chennai, India
72/D-61
Feb 07, 2010
09:19 PM
Sohail Tanvir in a recent interview by a Tv channel in Pakistan has clearly blamed hindus
in India for the non inclusion of Pakistan players in IPL . And the hosts of the TV channel
also agree with him . Do we need such players who carry hatred towards India. This interview can be watched on you tube.
Gautam Mohan Gulati
Adipur, India
73/D-101
Feb 13, 2010
04:27 PM
Gautam Mohan Gulati
Adipur, India
why Tanvir alone as no Pakistani cricketer,celebrity ,politician and the militants has spared India and the Hindus in particular.And sharukh Khan and all those who support him seems to give a deaf ear and a blind eye to what those jihadi cricket fraternity has said and what amount of posion is there in their minds. And do we need such players to be here in India when they have shown no remorse for the people died on 26/11.
If some one pays some money to our money hungry media then they may think of showing those video clippings which now appear of the UTube video and make those blindly going after sharukhto pause and listen .Its a shame that these people do not have any remorse and respect for those sacrificed and lost their lives on 26/11.Thats cowardice inside but wrapped with secular sugar on the outside.Its shame on all those media channels who had shown one side of the story alone.They may have reasons to see that the Shivsena their foremost adversary is being put to shame.But here is other side of those who oppose a sharukh khan, his statements and his attitudes and his associations.Why that was not shown by the media while calling themselves as fifth pillar of democracy.There are a hundred crore Indians and a crore or more people in Mumbai and its not difficult to conclude how the vested interests can buy the integrity of media and make it a one sided affair.I suggest every neutral reader should circulate this web link in all their posts so that those who wear T-shirts and Jeans should also know what others are talking about us without we knowing them but praising them or trusting them.
http://www.youtube.c...Ck0&feature=related.
rahul
Bangalore, India
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