Shankar Aiyar (then with India Today Group)
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Thank you to all those who have taken the trouble to read the article and share their thoughts. Out of the arguments made here, there are two that perhaps need answering. So here they go.
1. The first part of the article compares outcomes (relative percentages of population of the religions concerned) irrespective of the process that led to those outcomes - whether immigration, relatively faster population growth or conversions. This was for two reasons. One, to put the figure of 2.3 per cent in "numerical perspective", as the article itself explained. The second reason was that outcomes are ultimately what the crux of debate is about. The rest of the article in any case dealt with process - or conversions in this case, from both a contemporary and historical perspective.
2. Some commenters have tried to cast doubts on the reliability of Census 2001. Those who do this should bear in mind that Census 2001 was conducted by a BJP government. Considering the extreme importance that BJP gives to this issue, it would be reasonable to expect that IF it had perceived a problem with the methodology that was distorting the numbers, it would have fixed it. As the article mentioned, BJP or BJP-supported governments have been in power for 10 of the last 40 years, or about a quarter of the time, and the only reasonable conclusion one can arrive at is that any misreporting of numbers, real or perceived, would be marginal and hence, not of importance.
To all other arguments made, my answer is the following: Please read the article again, with particular focus on the quotations of Vivekananda and Monier Williams, and the history of the missionary efforts in Bengal and their outcome.
So the buck again stops with the people, in stead of the authorities making up the governing machinery. I can not understand, "Who likes to pay a bribe"? One needs to look inside their own conscience and find out. No one coughs up money easily once s/he get it - rightly or wrongly. They start labelling it their "own" and do not part away easily unless bound to!
Tata may be a lesser devil but a devil nontheless and could not escape this psunami of corruption. The system in India is such that one can not escape corruption if one has to survive. The begger sharks sitting in the towering AC chambers, who also control these pseudo-secular media through these vassal paparrazzis can easily get away and they are. Thanks to Barkha and Dingy Raja and so many of its ilks.
Anna Hazare is a bye-product of this dirty game played now openly by these shameless top goons in every sphere.
After reading this article I just vomitted. Only one suggestion lets have fast track court for corruption scandals.
Now that the evidence in the tapes is destroyed by Sibal - the MMS’s troubleshooter ,RT stages an interview at NDTV and times his petition in supreme court. MMS -RATAN TATA-NIIRA-BARKA nexus is the biggest of the stories of the millenium . They need to be tried in public for treason and their sculls hanged at the Patel Chowk.
It seems Ratan Tata is very lonely and Radia's company has spoiled him and made him greedy. This exposure may be from Anil Ambani group side. No body was listening to them so they used this method. Whatever it is, but india has been taken for a ride. Politicians are known to be corrupt. but sad to know that media too is a puppet in corporrate's hands. We will protect our country from pak / china and america. but who will protect us from our own corrupt country men. We hope sonia and manmohan ractify everything. End of the day , we too need to trust them and help them to clear kachra from india. Let,s get togather and re-create a clean india. Three is more burden on young shoulders. so, let's come togather and raise a voice againt corruption and lobbing.Now who so ever takes charge, instead of blind faith, we must keep our eyes/ ears open. discuss everything through blogs and open discussions. Keep faith in God and in ourselves, IF WE ALL R ONE, WE CAN SOLVE ANY CRISES. Chalo awaaj uthae.
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