In the links below, the headlines in black are those for which the transcripts are yet to be put in. Headlines in burgundy are those audio conversations which have the transcripts.
Thank you to all those who have taken the trouble to read the article and share their thoughts. Out of the arguments made here, there are two that perhaps need answering. So here they go.
1. The first part of the article compares outcomes (relative percentages of population of the religions concerned) irrespective of the process that led to those outcomes - whether immigration, relatively faster population growth or conversions. This was for two reasons. One, to put the figure of 2.3 per cent in "numerical perspective", as the article itself explained. The second reason was that outcomes are ultimately what the crux of debate is about. The rest of the article in any case dealt with process - or conversions in this case, from both a contemporary and historical perspective.
2. Some commenters have tried to cast doubts on the reliability of Census 2001. Those who do this should bear in mind that Census 2001 was conducted by a BJP government. Considering the extreme importance that BJP gives to this issue, it would be reasonable to expect that IF it had perceived a problem with the methodology that was distorting the numbers, it would have fixed it. As the article mentioned, BJP or BJP-supported governments have been in power for 10 of the last 40 years, or about a quarter of the time, and the only reasonable conclusion one can arrive at is that any misreporting of numbers, real or perceived, would be marginal and hence, not of importance.
To all other arguments made, my answer is the following: Please read the article again, with particular focus on the quotations of Vivekananda and Monier Williams, and the history of the missionary efforts in Bengal and their outcome.
TATAs obviously are nursing RESENTMENT. If you want to know how childishly they have reacted, please click the following HTML
We had a story in primary school about courage shown by a Rat about KING being naked on he streets. Seems that the End and Moral of the story will have have to be re-written.
In today’s world of terrorism, it is understandable that investigative agencies would need to put under surveillance conversations or exchanges of communication between people that they have reason to doubt. But with that right, there is a certain degree of responsibility and that responsibility is to protect the privacy of the concerned persons until such time that the person has been proved to be involved in an anti-national or illegal act. That has not happened in this case. Anywhere in the free world, to be considered innocent until proved guilty in a court of law. Trial by media, conviction by media, indictment by media is irrational behaviour.
Mr tata claimed to be a businessman who could not be a bribe giver and refused to pay 15 crores but now it is proved beyond doubt that he did it through his agents like Radia. Every principal is liable for the acts of his agent.It is a mathematical equation that some body's profit is equal to loss of another. If the company TTSL got spectrum license at throw away prices without reducing prices for the consumers , where all the profit has gone. Mr Tata has also done financial irregularities earlier at the time of diverting funds from VSNL to TTSL without authority and by using under table links with the government. He had been a contributor for ULFA also for which he was arrested.
Mr Raja or any other public servant who is being blamed for spectrum scam is not that guily as being blamed. It is the corporate caucus which is ruining the basic foundation of our country. Every corporate house is having a lobbyst in his arm and huge money to corrupt some poor fellows who are at a high level in the government. CBI must investigate these corporates for their financial improprieties. ALSO WE THE SHARE HOLDERS OF THESE CORPORATES HAVE BECOME PARTY FOR MISAPPROPRIATION OF FUNDS OF THE COMPANIES INVOLUNTARILY.Let us not give such huge amounts in the hands of such corporates and let us stop respecting them.
Raja-Radia links go back 4 years
.................The woman who introduced Radia to Raja later became a Rajya Sabha member.
.....Sources said the CBI had evidence that just a few days before the spectrum allotment on January 10, 2008, a "criminal conspiracy" took place involving Radia and Raja........
.....The CBI sought permission to interrogate Radia after tapping her phone for over 300 days, but it was not allowed to do so by "highest authorities", said sources. Fearing her arrest, Radia left for London in February this year.
Read complete aarticle by J GOPIKRISHNAN who (1st) unearthed the 2G Scam & other scandals by A Raja,
In my view, it all started from the Ratan tata Outburst in Dehradun in Nov.`2010, when he accused a union minister for aviation having demanded Rs 15 cr for starting an airlines. It must not be missed out that the union minister he insinuated, belonged to the government which too was supported by congress. Mr. Tata went on to claim high moral ground when he stated that he would not have been able to sleep if he paid up for the airlies.
Gradually when more corporate voices on the issue began to be heard, Congress, with incumbent government silently hit back in a style "Bahut Jor ka Jhatka Peeche Se laga" and surruptiously released the tapes.
In one stroke it posed too many questions to as many sections in media / corporate / politics -
1. Mr. Tata, you said that you lose sleep if you paid gratification, how was this one? Are you still able to sleep?
2. Journalists of all hue had been hounding congress on all sorts of issues. Now, most (Glamorous) big boys and girls of journalism are hiding in some corner groping for ways to salvage what ever is left of their reputation as well as career.
3. Beauraucrats - former as well as incumbent, having seen and heard N.K. Singh, Pradeep baijal etal, look no further. Mr. Sheshan's historic remark would perhaps be evergreen and relevant at all times and under all circumstances.
4. Judiciary - Although one would not like to coment on, but one lilting point remains - When Radia tells Vir Sanghvi and Prabu Chawala that, Mumbai H.C. judgement was basically handed over to the bench in a pen drive and then goes on to list out issues on which the bench erred, all listed points one by one figure in the final SC judgement and almost after ten months. Does it suggest that this time the pen drive went from the other source?
5. Politial parties of all hue are running helter skelter trying to hide under JPC cover, scared of radiagate bombshell exploding in their faces (N.K. Singh has affliations with JD(U); Arun Shourie and Venkiah - BJP; almost every one in DMK; glam journos - all for congress). However, this last lot (poiticos) has least to lose since they know each other rather too well and more so, trading away shame for their job is an integral part of their profession.
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