In this connection the following issues are important:
Ravi Shankar Prasad is the deputy leader of Opposition in Rajya Sabha and Chief Spokesperson, BJP
Thank you to all those who have taken the trouble to read the article and share their thoughts. Out of the arguments made here, there are two that perhaps need answering. So here they go.
1. The first part of the article compares outcomes (relative percentages of population of the religions concerned) irrespective of the process that led to those outcomes - whether immigration, relatively faster population growth or conversions. This was for two reasons. One, to put the figure of 2.3 per cent in "numerical perspective", as the article itself explained. The second reason was that outcomes are ultimately what the crux of debate is about. The rest of the article in any case dealt with process - or conversions in this case, from both a contemporary and historical perspective.
2. Some commenters have tried to cast doubts on the reliability of Census 2001. Those who do this should bear in mind that Census 2001 was conducted by a BJP government. Considering the extreme importance that BJP gives to this issue, it would be reasonable to expect that IF it had perceived a problem with the methodology that was distorting the numbers, it would have fixed it. As the article mentioned, BJP or BJP-supported governments have been in power for 10 of the last 40 years, or about a quarter of the time, and the only reasonable conclusion one can arrive at is that any misreporting of numbers, real or perceived, would be marginal and hence, not of importance.
To all other arguments made, my answer is the following: Please read the article again, with particular focus on the quotations of Vivekananda and Monier Williams, and the history of the missionary efforts in Bengal and their outcome.
'''Sources said the two company executives have been charged with facilitating 14 million euros bribe to the Tyagi family, including the former IAF chief, to bag the contract by changing technical specifications and manipulating the trials. The officials have been charged with bribery and embezzlement.
The prosecution has also asked that the two officials be asked to pay 7.5 million euros as penalty for taking part in an international racket and misusing their position to give away fake software engineering contracts to Haschke through a complex network of companies based in Switzerland, Tunisia and Chandigarh.
Sources said the two company executives have been charged with facilitating 14 million euros bribe to the Tyagi family, including the former IAF chief, to bag the contract by changing technical specifications and manipulating the trials. The officials have been charged with bribery and embezzlement.
The prosecution has also asked that the two officials be asked to pay 7.5 million euros as penalty for taking part in an international racket and misusing their position to give away fake software engineering contracts to Haschke through a complex network of companies based in Switzerland, Tunisia and Chandigarh.''
In India it is impossible for Taygies to pocket 14 million Eurose themselves .
NOW INDIA IS LEFT HOLDING THREE HELICOPTERS WHICH CAN'T FLY FOR WANT OF SPARES.
The Helicopter Trials for Augysta were held in Italy and UK and not in India .
This was against the laid down Policy of the Purchase Procedure .No IAF or any Babu from Ministry of Defense will be foolhardy to take such an important decision without patronage from the Politicians
Who are those Mai Baaps not known yet.
CBI has only restricted themselves Baus and Air Force Officers and have not touched the maai Baaps.
Now Italay is not returning the two Mariners accuse dof killings the fishermen .The Italians were first allowed to go for Xmas Holidays to Italy -hopefully Indian prisoners will be entitled for going out Jails to celebrate Diwali,Eid etc.
The Italians came back .Again they went to Italy for a Holiday after the Helicopter Scam reared its head .
Now Italy is refusing to send back the Italian Prisoners despite solmen assurances given by the Italian Govt .
And rest assured Italians will also refuse to reveal the names of the Politicians who are involved in Armsgate.
Between 2004 and 2011, India has ordered arms worth over $46.6 billion—or about Rs 2.3 lakh crore—and is one of the top buyers in the arms bazaar. (Source - NewIndianExpress)
Assuming 10% commission as the Augusta Westland deal we have 2300 crores of unaccounted for bribe money courtesy the Manmohan/Sonia/Rahul Congress and allies UPA govt.
No wonder we are suffering from galloping inflation, weakening rupee, widening deficits and a bankrupt India ( less money to even fund Sonia's vote buying NREGA and Rahul gandhi's vote buying direct cash transfer schemes too unless they start taxing us more and banning gold imports!)
Haschke spills the beans on how a wedding served as the stage for the VIP chopper deal
Read more at: http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/chopper-scam-agustawestland-haschke-vvip-helicopters-finmeccanica-tyagi-brothers-italian-investigators/1/250284.html
AgustaWestland chopper deal has telltale signs of a Congress connection. According to the Italian newspaper ‘Lettera 43’, main commission agent Christian Michel’s late father was “close to the Congress party”, and the other middleman, Guido Ralph Haschke, was a Director of Emaar-MGF, a real estate company owned by relatives of Kanishka Singh, who is associated with a Congress high-up. “Born in 1961, Michel is little known to the public. On the internet, there are no evidences of his business or his statement. Not a photo or an interview. Yet, Michel is very well introduced in Defence establishments in New Delhi,” says the Italian newspaper report titled “Christian Michel, the English middleman of Finmeccanica.”
“His contacts are stronger especially with the Indian Defence, that he has inherited from his father, Wolfgang Max Michel Richard, a British businessman who was very active in India between 80s and 90s and was close to the Congress party,” the reports says.
Browse http://www.dailypioneer.com/home/online-channel/360-todays-newspaper/127688-italian-media-hints-at-cong-link-to-copter-scam.html , for full report.
Also sample some of the taped conversations between middlemen Guido Haschke and Carlo Gerosa presented by the Italian prosecutor, where they joke about how they spluged the bribe money.
15. Indian officials are 'morons', will take years to track links, middlemen said - The alleged middlemen in the AgustaWestland VVIP helicopter deal bragged that even if Indian investigators probed their role, they would find no money trail as the payments were made in cash, and that they would not be able to identify Sanjeev Kumar Tyagi as the person behind the affair, taped conversations revealed.
16. 'I will tell Indian judges I spent 10-15 million euros on ballerinas, champagne'
- About 10-15 million euros of the suspected kickbacks was believed to have been routed to India and the alleged middleman in the deal apparently planned to tell Indian courts, if he was questioned, that he blew up the money on "ballerinas and champagne", according to taped conversations with the Italian police.
Well I do accept that Indians worldwide are known historically as corrupt people, but now it seems that the foreigners who bribe Indians do not even care about our justice system, and make fun about our law enforcement and judiciary quite openly.
Shame on us.
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