The conversations, all part of an officially sanctioned tap, are on top of the 140 conversations placed in the public domain by Outlook three weeks ago.
The intercepts offer fresh political insight into the working of the Kenyan-born British lobbyist who counts the Tatas and Ambanis among her clients.
While Outlook reporters are still decoding the tapes, it is clear that they shine a grisly mirror on the interplay between government and big business, with the media at the end of the frame, at the time Manmohan Singh was forming his cabinet in May 2009—and in the 2G scam itself.
What is also clear is that the retention of the DMK’s A. Raja in the telecom portfolio in the UPA-2 cabinet was central to the telecom ripoff, now presumptively estimated by the Comptroller and Auditor General (CAG) at a mind-boggling Rs 173,000 crore.
In one revealing conversation with Tarun Das, the former head of the Confederation of Indian Industry (CII), Niira Radia says DMK chief Karunanidhi was insistent that the telecom ministry, held by Raja in the first term of UPA, should go to Raja again, although the stench of the 2G scam had already begun to emanate by then.
“Karunanidhi wants Raja because he is a Dalit. The prime minister is only insistent that former shipping minister T.R. Baalu [charged of corruption in UPA-1] should not be in the cabinet,” says Radia.
The Congress, Radia hints, was agreeable to this, but Raja’s predecessor Dayanidhi Maran, an aspirant himself, was spreading a canard that he was in touch with Sonia Gandhi’s political secretary, Ahmed Patel, who, Maran claimed, felt he was the more suitable candidate.
“Karunanidhi is a totally confused man,” says Radia in the conversation.
She also indicates to Das that the octogenarian Tamil Nadu chief minister was trapped between a daughter who threatens to commit suicide and a wife who wants “to do this”.
Radia then requests Das to convey to the Congress that they should only talk to DMK Rajya Sabha member Kanimozhi, who has a line to her father, Karunanidhi, and that the Congress must not talk to Dayanidhi Maran.
“The PM also spoke via her [Kanimozhi],” says Niira Radia.
Tarun Das interjects at this point and says Raja is very unpopular.
To which Radia responds: “That’s only with Sunil Mittal [of Airtel]… it is better to have Raja in telecom. He will behave himself. Trust me, he will behave himself....I have promised, Raja has promised that he will speak to Mittal and deal with the matter. Leave that to me.”
In another chat with an unidentified, female Tamil Nadu politician, Niira Radia reveals that she was clued into the internal politics of the Karunanidhi family that is now central to the 2G scam. She says it was a mistake on the part of Kanimozhi to let go of the Minister of State berth and that she should look after herself first and then think of others.
“Tell her [Kanimozhi], she should be friends with Azhagiri [Karunanidhi’s elder son],” Radia says.
The new conversations are contained in the over 5,800 conversations that are now in the safe custody of the Supreme Court.
The interception of phones belonging to Radia was done by the income-tax department and Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI) while investigating a “criminal conspiracy between certain public servants and some private persons in the grant of UAS licenses in 2007-08.”
The Outlook Exclusive comes in the midst of a Parliament paralysed by opposition demands for a Joint Parliamentary Committee (JPC) probe, an investigation by the Public Accounts Committee (PAC), and the appointment of a former Supreme Court judge to probe the 2G spectrum allocation scam.
The leak also comes in the wake of a blazing exchange of open letters between Ratan Tata and former telecom entrepreneur Rajeev Chandrasekhar, and on the very day the Congress-led UPA government assured the Supreme Court of India that it would take every measure to check the leak of further tapes and transcripts involving Tata Sons chairman Ratan Tata.
Watch out for more transcripts and analyses as they get updated
Thank you to all those who have taken the trouble to read the article and share their thoughts. Out of the arguments made here, there are two that perhaps need answering. So here they go.
1. The first part of the article compares outcomes (relative percentages of population of the religions concerned) irrespective of the process that led to those outcomes - whether immigration, relatively faster population growth or conversions. This was for two reasons. One, to put the figure of 2.3 per cent in "numerical perspective", as the article itself explained. The second reason was that outcomes are ultimately what the crux of debate is about. The rest of the article in any case dealt with process - or conversions in this case, from both a contemporary and historical perspective.
2. Some commenters have tried to cast doubts on the reliability of Census 2001. Those who do this should bear in mind that Census 2001 was conducted by a BJP government. Considering the extreme importance that BJP gives to this issue, it would be reasonable to expect that IF it had perceived a problem with the methodology that was distorting the numbers, it would have fixed it. As the article mentioned, BJP or BJP-supported governments have been in power for 10 of the last 40 years, or about a quarter of the time, and the only reasonable conclusion one can arrive at is that any misreporting of numbers, real or perceived, would be marginal and hence, not of importance.
To all other arguments made, my answer is the following: Please read the article again, with particular focus on the quotations of Vivekananda and Monier Williams, and the history of the missionary efforts in Bengal and their outcome.
"RBI governor D Subbarao -- who was finance secretary in UPA-1 -- told the JPC that the decision to allocate 2G spectrum in 2008 at 2001 rates was endorsed by the PM, Chidambaram and then telecom minister A Raja at a meeting on July 4, 2008.
In his remarks before the committee, the RBI governor stuck to his November 22, 2007 noting in which he questioned the entry fee being fixed at Rs 1,650 crore, the 2001 rate. He said the 2007 market price for spectrum should have been discovered although it was up to the government to prioritize welfare over revenue.
The RBI governor in his testimony said he had notings of the July 4, 2008 meeting which he attended along with T K A Nair, the then principal secretary to the prime minister. The decision to opt for the 2001 rate and ignore the auctions option was a ministerial one, he said.
During the meeting, Subbarao was asked why he did not pursue his advice on auctions. The RBI governor admitted that he could have performed his duties with greater diligence. On pricing of spectrum, he said that left to himself, he would have liked to discover the price of airwaves in 2007 for licences to be issued in 2008.""
Chidambram and Raja we know were aware of the happenings in 2G but now Subba Rao has dragged in PM Manmohan Singh too .
Surely,it is better to have Raja back as telecom minister,since the bigger crook Kapil Sibal has proved that there is 'zero loss'.Raja back as minister and Kapil taking his cell in Tihar is eminently the right solution.
Fo1ks,time to read 'wa1king with the comrades' again.
A poor man went to the temple to pray with 3 rupees in his pocket. He went by walk, it was hot;, the road was crowded. No buses around. No other vehicles. There was a police jeep on his way, he requested the cop to drop him off by the temple. The cop asked for 1 rupee. The guy paid the copy, thinking 2 rupees balance in his pocket. When he entered the temple, the security asked him for 1 rupee. He gave the security 1 rupee thinking 1 more rupee is left in his pocket. When he prayed, the priest asked him for 1 rupee too. He gave the priest 1 rupee too, thinking he could then pray peacefully. When he bent down and raised from the floor, the god was missing. He was shocked to see some empty space in the pooja room. Then appeared god and asked him 1 rupee too. The devotee was perplexed and bewildered.
Then suddenly there was laughter and lights around him with a loud noice, hurray! "it's barkha!". Oh, sorry! it's bakra. There is a lot closeness in these two words - "Bakra and Burkha". Isn't it?
round them up who are involved in 2g , adarsh, commonwealth mining, land scams etc hand them over to a tough daroga give him a free hand. all truth and all money will come out. as someone has said ' maar ke aage bhoot bhi bhagte hain''
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