B. Raman is Additional Secretary (retd), Cabinet Secretariat, Govt. of India, New Delhi, and, presently, Director, Institute For Topical Studies, Chennai, and Associate of the Chennai Centre For China Studies.
Thank you to all those who have taken the trouble to read the article and share their thoughts. Out of the arguments made here, there are two that perhaps need answering. So here they go.
1. The first part of the article compares outcomes (relative percentages of population of the religions concerned) irrespective of the process that led to those outcomes - whether immigration, relatively faster population growth or conversions. This was for two reasons. One, to put the figure of 2.3 per cent in "numerical perspective", as the article itself explained. The second reason was that outcomes are ultimately what the crux of debate is about. The rest of the article in any case dealt with process - or conversions in this case, from both a contemporary and historical perspective.
2. Some commenters have tried to cast doubts on the reliability of Census 2001. Those who do this should bear in mind that Census 2001 was conducted by a BJP government. Considering the extreme importance that BJP gives to this issue, it would be reasonable to expect that IF it had perceived a problem with the methodology that was distorting the numbers, it would have fixed it. As the article mentioned, BJP or BJP-supported governments have been in power for 10 of the last 40 years, or about a quarter of the time, and the only reasonable conclusion one can arrive at is that any misreporting of numbers, real or perceived, would be marginal and hence, not of importance.
To all other arguments made, my answer is the following: Please read the article again, with particular focus on the quotations of Vivekananda and Monier Williams, and the history of the missionary efforts in Bengal and their outcome.
The more I read from some of the "secularists" comparing every god damn thing with Gujrat riots the more convinced I become that deep down they know they are so hollow that they hold on to it like the proverbial straw.
All those reminding about Gujrat riots forget that 59 hindus were burnt alive by the secular "Muslims" and almost half of those caught by police were also handed punishment by our court. Also if you see the total ratio of those dead is about 7:3 (muslim : hindus). It was not one way traffic.
Read the link to understand the mindset and growing "assertiveness" of the first favourite religion of pseudo secularists. http://www.hindujagruti.org/news/13373.html
If you cannot hang Afzal Guru fearing Kashmiri Muslim reaction then the government has no business of being there. And if the Kashmiri Muslims want to side with a culprit then so be it and government should take them to task.
Right from the way History has been taught to us (undermining everything good about Hindus and not highliting all bad deeds of Muslim invaders, Christians) to the electoral gain formula for Assam and now dangerous levels of Muslim population dominance in areas near Bangladesh all lead to same thing.
These so called scientific-rational commie historians wont bother to re-look at history even after discovery of river bed of Saraswati river. Surely it would disturb the timelines as postulated by their white skin Christian masters such as Mueller and Maculaly and their true followers in likes of Habib, Romila Thapar and others.
The combined group of Communists, "psuedo secularists" (a few apparent in the mails to editor for this article) Congress and other traitors are hell bent on making us Hindus third grade citizen.
Just reading responses to this piece show how "secularists" invent non-sensical arguements to try and save face for Islam. The person who wrote this article was either smoking something heavy as he says nothing can be done or is part of traitors club to indicate nice and reasonable sounding third class arguements.
Hindus wake up. Take pride in our Hindutva and our Bhaarat. India is something Goras gave us. Bhaarat is ours. Take pride in Bhaarat. Only then we can revive Hindu pride.
I am not sure how arming a group of people to return to their own homeland so that they can defend themselves against armed goons will result in polarization between Hindus and Muslims. If this leads to polarization, then so be it but this is the right way to do it. The government does not have the right to take away the most basic right of a human being to defend himself for the sake of imagined disturbances. Disturbances do not occur in a vaccum by unseen forces. They are created by real people and those who create this for their agenda need to be met head-on and the Indian state should not allow itself to be intimidated by such a prospect. I would even say allow large scale immigration from other parts of the country to the valley. If India claims the valley as their own, then treat it as its own by allowing any Indian to settle there, with arms.
Coorection.In the message above I meant to say Kashmiri Muslims
>>>Even logic to support hanging of Kasabh is that it will not provoke any separatist reaction
Just so i make it clear, I do not support death sentence for anyone at anytime for any reason.
But whan i say hanging of Kasab will not cause any sepratist reaction I am simply stating fact. Kasab is just a low level pawn and no on except his family cares for him. the master minds are living in Pakistan and they are free, So no tears will be shed from him. moreover I do no think KAshmiris conside him to be one of them.
>>>I find your logic quite weak . If death penalty is given to a convict by all the courts, it surely shows that Afzal Guru is guilty. If you believe still Guru should not be hanged fearing reaction from Indian Kashmiri separatists then you confirm that law of the land should be sacrificed to mobocracy.
It may sound moronic to you,But I find your argument ver weak. Right now KAshmir is peaceful. Do you want to hang afzal Guru and cause riots again? The hanging of Maqbool Butt alienated the Kashmiris further and gave a boost to militancy.And the rigged election later alienated the Kashmiri muslims completely
>>>If you believe still Guru should not be hanged fearing reaction from Indian Kashmiri separatists then you confirm that law of the land should be sacrificed to mobocracy.
Really where was youe indigantion when M. F. Hussain was hounded out by Mobs. Did he do something illegal?
As far as Kashmir is concerened we are not giving in to mobocracy. We are acting sensibly. Hanging Afzal may results in riots. That in turn mayresult in police or military shooting at people. That in turn may attract international attention to Kashmir. If that happens the international human rights associations will criticize us and probably this will make our position vis a vis pakistan quite weak. Granted this may or may not happen, but when KAshmir is peaceful now, why take actions that will result in alienating KAshmiri Muslims further. Let Afzal rot in jail.
By the way if pakistan in turn hangs Sarbjit Singh apparently you do not care. If Sarbjit is innocent as he claims then he should not die. If he was a RAW agent and planted bombs and killed innocent Pakistanis as Pakistan claims (and remember PAkistani supreme court has upheld that) then he was working for government India, and I would think you will not want him to die because we hanged Afzal Guru)
>>>> Salman Rushdie controversy clearly showed how low the Congress can go to appease Muslims. Secularism is an alien concept to all Indian political parties. Let's call a spade a spade.
And when congress did not do anything to protect M.F.hussain it shows how low the congress can go to appease Hindus?
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