Dear Mr. Tata,
I welcome your joining this debate. It is an important one and needs to be settled in full public view. Unfortunately, your response is a typical one that ducks the main issues and instead attempts to shoot the messenger!
I am only disappointed, but no longer surprised, that in sharp contrast to my efforts to go out of the way to keep this debate relating to facts and policy discussions – your letter is intensely personal, attributes feeble motives (including amusing Political ones) and most unbecoming of the House of Tatas. I can only think that this is a lapse in good judgment. I particularly find your self-appointed defence of the Prime Minister and Government very irrelevant.
Nevertheless, I promise to keep my response dignified and steadfastly refuse to fall to your level of personal attacks.
On facts, your letter is not just exceptionally weak, but in fact, refuses to engage on the issues that I had raised – the yawning gap between what you say in public and what your companies do. While those remain unanswered, I will certainly reply shortly with my response. I promise to rebut your allegations, claims and innuendo – chapter and verse in the public domain.
Member of Parliament
09 December, 2010
Thank you to all those who have taken the trouble to read the article and share their thoughts. Out of the arguments made here, there are two that perhaps need answering. So here they go.
1. The first part of the article compares outcomes (relative percentages of population of the religions concerned) irrespective of the process that led to those outcomes - whether immigration, relatively faster population growth or conversions. This was for two reasons. One, to put the figure of 2.3 per cent in "numerical perspective", as the article itself explained. The second reason was that outcomes are ultimately what the crux of debate is about. The rest of the article in any case dealt with process - or conversions in this case, from both a contemporary and historical perspective.
2. Some commenters have tried to cast doubts on the reliability of Census 2001. Those who do this should bear in mind that Census 2001 was conducted by a BJP government. Considering the extreme importance that BJP gives to this issue, it would be reasonable to expect that IF it had perceived a problem with the methodology that was distorting the numbers, it would have fixed it. As the article mentioned, BJP or BJP-supported governments have been in power for 10 of the last 40 years, or about a quarter of the time, and the only reasonable conclusion one can arrive at is that any misreporting of numbers, real or perceived, would be marginal and hence, not of importance.
To all other arguments made, my answer is the following: Please read the article again, with particular focus on the quotations of Vivekananda and Monier Williams, and the history of the missionary efforts in Bengal and their outcome.
If any one believes that the TATA'S in India have built this big business empire without supporting corruption is being niave and need to wake up and smell the coffee.
Can you explain why no other private steel plant in the private sector was not built in Bihar from 47 up until bihar was divided into 2 states!
The congress in Bihar & Orissa use to be in the pocket of the Tata's!
Every business house paid during the licence Raj! This practice is still going on!
Mr. Tata is no Angle!!
Dry cleaners and dhobis are going to make a fortune with this public washing of dirty linen.
I hope it cleanses Indian politics.
Good thing that the Apex Court did not restrain publication of the contents of the tapes.
Silence about corruption is complicity in corruption Mr.Tata !!! You forfeited your right to complain the moment you decided to keep quiet about it. What about the bureaucratic corruption in India. This is the biggest per capita corruption in India which stretches to every village, every government office, every police station, every traffic signal, every civil supplies office, every ration shop, every government school, college, university, institution, organisation. When I was an advocating practising at the Supreme Court of India, the Supreme Court Bureaucracy too demanded money to accept petitions, list them and complete the formalities.
Corruption is a Rule of Law Problem in India just like it is anywhere else. It is a perversion of the course of justice, it is a gross violation of the liberty, right to justice, equality and right against discrimination, bullying, harassment and persecution. Why are not the Indian lawyers speaking about it in that language? Why is not the Supreme Court hauling up the union and state secretaries for the ministries of Home and Law at the Centre and the states for this gross abuse of human rights and democratic rights of the peoples of India? This is the billion dollar question- my dear India and Indians please don't go by what the misguided academicians and journalists say about corruption without acknowledging these fundamentals!!!
I wokred in Tata company and I know how corrut they are. It depends at what level and with whom you might have worked.
Expose this two-faced cheat..he supports Iran,he is shamelessly trying to get a hold from SC on the tapes.WTF is he trying to hide.Is he trying to cover his corrupt ass along with madam Sonia and integrity Singh.Astonishing to hear that he is in 'support' of the current Govt policy than the prev one.Yeah sure, why not ..right get a share of the loot to all ..BIG CHEAT this guy..Go Rajeev and Outlook!! .Dont stop this campaign..People are with you!!
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