2G Spectrum Scam
The Vir Sanghvi- Niira Radia Tapes
In these Radia wants Sanghvi to tell the Congress not to negotiate with Dayanidhi Maran. He tells her that while he has been meeting Rahul and can't "get into Sonia in the short term" he would "try and get through to Ahmed"
COMMENTS PRINT
RadiaGate
A petition before the Supreme Courts shows the rot within. It is not just the 2G Spectrum but the entire Republic of India that seems to be up for sale, with the dealers being a group of powerful telemarketers— corporate houses, lobbyists, bureaucrats and journalists
2G Spectrum Scam
Four transcripts that were submitted to the SC along with audio recordings in May 2009 covering the cabinet formation, DMK politics and who'd get telecom portfolio
2G Spectrum Scam
The conversations with M.Karunanidhi's daughter M. Kanimozhi about keeping Dayanidhi Maran out from negotiations with the Congress and to get the telecom portfolio for A. Raja
2G Spectrum Scam Audio
Recordings of conversations with the likes of Ratan Tata, Ranjan Bhattacharya, Barkha Dutt, Shankar Aiyar, Sunil Arora etc
Niira Radia Tapes
The other big 'national resource' story involves the virtual who's who: Ambani V/s Ambani V/s Tata, gas and power sector war involving big name journos, politicians, babus, corporates
Radiagate
The controversial document purporting to be an official account of intercepted phone conversations that mysteriously cropped up with various media houses and was put up and then taken off from the Hindu website in April
Full Index
All the 140 available audios -- a work in progress with transcripts getting added on an on-going basis and names being identified, added and corrected
Niira Radia Tapes
'Barkha Dutt... says that he [PM] has no problem with you, but he has a problem with Baalu'
Niira Radia Tapes
'Have they not lost their heads a bit much in the last 48 hours?'
Niira Radia Tapes
Oh God. So now what? What should I tell them? Tell me what should I tell them?
Niira Radia Tapes
'[Kanimozhi] agrees that they [DMK] shouldn't have sent the list the way they did'
Niira Radia Tapes
'PM was not keen on Maran'
Niira Radia Tapes
'Prime Minister can’t talk on a phone to dad and convey... Prime Minister is also, you know, very soft spoken and dad can’t hear that clearly also'
Niira Radia Tapes
'I’ll talk to Azad right after I get out of RCR'
Niira Radia Tapes
'wo Daya kaa aur Rahul ko kuch business interest hai toh'
Niira Radia Tapes
'My God. You know, he [Dayanidhi Maran] is watching everything you’re doing…'
Niira Radia Tapes
'I was supposed to meet Sonia today ... I’ve been meeting with Rahul ... I won’t get into Sonia in the short term, let me try and get through to Ahmed'
Niira Radia Tapes
'Congress has been totally confused as to who they need to speak to'
Niira Radia Tapes
'...seriously there is only one route, talk to the daughter she will take you to him…'
Niira Radia Tapes
'Daya is not talking to Ahmed Patel, Daya is not talking to Ahmed Patel, I don’t know who Daya is talking to'
Niira Radia Tapes
'Let me call Ghulam then. Let me call him'
Niira Radia Tapes
'Congress never said anything about Raja'
Niira Radia Tapes
'Your friend Sunil Mittal... He’s lobbying against Raja... Then I made Barkha call up Congress, and get a statement from Congress'
Niira Radia Tapes
Mukesh Ambani said: ‘Haan yaar, you know Ranjan, you’re right, ab to Congress apnii dukaan hai (now the Congress is our shop).’
Niira Radia Tapes
'No, you see Congress’s only condition is…'
Niira Radia Tapes
Niira Radia Tapes
'Then the Leader [Karunanidhi] said then you [Maran] join the Congress'
Niira Radia Tapes
Niira Radia Tapes
'He’s [Maran] trying to get somebody from the congress say things against Raja to dad'
Niira Radia Tapes
Niira Radia Tapes
'We made a very reasonable offer, we’ve lot of regards for Karunanidhi, we would like to deal with him. We have no regard for Maran'
Niira Radia Tapes
Niira Radia Tapes
Niira Radia Tapes
'I think the government should insist on going in a big way about the Dish TV or whatever, or to make sure the entire cable network is open to everybody'
Niira Radia Tapes
Niira Radia Tapes
Niira Radia Tapes
'So who planted in the minds of the Congress saying that Azhagiri doesn’t know English?… I know…'
Niira Radia Tapes
'Niira Radia: So, I believe Maran has given about 600 crores to Dayalu, Stalin’s mother. Vir Sanghvi: 600 Crores, okay? Niira Radia: 600 Crores, is what I’m told. Vir Sanghvi: It’s hard to argue with that kind of pressure'
Niira Radia Tapes
'Niira Radia: You didn’t put aviation, Kanni. Kanimozhi: You know, just an aviation I will take it up. No problem'
Niira Radia Tapes
'Tell Sunil Mittal, you have to work along with Raja for another five years'
Niira Radia Tapes
'Narayanan is just a messenger. So, now the decision will be taken'
Niira Radia Tapes
About Nita Ambani-Shobha De
Niira Radia Tapes
Natasha for Nita
Niira Radia Tapes
Counter Campaign'
Niira Radia Tapes
Meeting NK Singh and Sharad Yadav
Niira Radia Tapes
Vir to Interview MDA
Niira Radia Tapes
See how Tony works
Niira Radia Tapes
Director and Chief Executive Officer of Vaishnavi Group
Niira Radia Tapes
BJP Revolt
Niira Radia Tapes
Negotiation over apology for the Forbes report on Ambani children
Niira Radia Tapes
'Ek hi aadmi ko apne ko protect karne kaa hai, woh hai Mukesh Ambani … baakii I don’t really care.. Is mein toh kitna bhi 10, 20, 50 crore kharchaa hogaa toh koi problem nahi hai'
Niira Radia Tapes
Ratan Tata: 'I’m surprised that Raja after all that you supposedly did for him is playing this game'
Niira Radia Tapes
"If the story [Tata-Bharti talks] comes out, I will then take it right to the top, because the story is wrong. I won’t leave it"
Niira Radia Tapes
Instigating Shiv Sena
Niira Radia Tapes
"Ratan is to get over the Sunil Mittal allergy, he must get over the Mukesh Ambani allergy, he needs friends also, no?"
Niira Radia Tapes
Managing Director and CEO. Tata Communications: About RCom stake selling and stock manipulations
Niira Radia Tapes
Third “wife” of Karunanidhi and mother of DMK MP, Kanimozhi on the Voltas connection and building on TRIL land
Niira Radia Tapes
'There is some continuous rumour about this Venugopal Dhoot buying out these [Datacom] guys'
Niira Radia Tapes
"Senthil and Rahul Joshi dono ki le lii"
Niira Radia Tapes
Probably Tata Power employee
Niira Radia Tapes
Judgment Day
Niira Radia Tapes
Niira Radia Tapes
One way…Totally managed judgment'
Niira Radia Tapes
Niira Radia Tapes
Niira Radia Tapes
Niira Radia Tapes
Niira Radia Tapes
Niira Radia Tapes
Fixing up panel for Budget discussion on ET Now and a personal meeting
Niira Radia Tapes
Niira Radia Tapes
"A nuclear deal happens and you fix the spectrum. You know, …something else happens and you fix coal"
Niira Radia Tapes
'I would imagine that share holders are gonna have a view: Why should you start, are you a fool to spend 7 billion dollars to give it for free to your brother?'
Niira Radia Tapes
Niira Radia Tapes
Niira Radia Tapes
Raja: 'I have a party to run'
Niira Radia Tapes
Niira Radia Tapes
Outlook Business guy travelling to Barmer
Niira Radia Tapes
'It’s not written by a judge. You can tell that from way it has been written'
Niira Radia Tapes
'K. Venugopal: How is Anil more influential on the High Court side? Niira Radia: Vanavati'
Niira Radia Tapes
Niira Radia Tapes
Niira Radia Tapes
'There is some fuss about the government coming out with some ordinance on the gas price issue'
Niira Radia Tapes
'There is information going around that Reliance is pulling out of the Haryana SEZ... that Jhajjar... that there are difficulties'
Niira Radia Tapes
Niira Radia Tapes
SC Caveat
Niira Radia Tapes
Niira Radia Tapes
'What kind of story do you want? Because this will go as Counterpoint, so it will be like most-most read, but it can’t seem too slanted, yet it is an ideal opportunity to get all the points across'
Niira Radia Tapes
‘This Litigant Told Me He Paid Vijender Jain 9 Cr’
Niira Radia Tapes
'Dekho in this country, dono side mein fix karne kii capacity hain... Chhotaa bhaai mobile jyaada hai. ...everything is fixed now these days'
Niira Radia Tapes
AI disinvestment -- asset stripping
Niira Radia Tapes
On Vir's article
Niira Radia Tapes
'Vir Sanghvi actually pre-empted me a little (Laughs) There was a line I was going to take ... In critical resources there should be, uh, national policy... You are not a Banana Republic...'
Niira Radia Tapes
"Sunil Jain's article -- so stupid! I think we shouldn't (respond) but a letter to the editor..."
Niira Radia Tapes
Fixing a meeting between MDA abd RNT
Niira Radia Tapes
'Empowered Group of Ministers on KG gas, it seems to be… is going to be reconstituted'
Niira Radia Tapes
'Whoever is giving you this input is really giving you the wrong perspective. ... I know for a fact because I’ve had someone speak to the PMO myself.'
Niira Radia Tapes
'You know... we had this Bhardwaj [as law minister] .. [who] used to deal with [Raja] differently. But now ... with Moily … he will just not.. take any chances…. And they ...want the prime minister to pull him up'
Niira Radia Tapes
Niira Radia Tapes
Niira Radia Tapes
"Ma'm there is some action going to happen at Bombay High Court"
Niira Radia Tapes
Niira Radia Tapes
'I want to stay away from this gas issue. You want me to write about it'
Niira Radia Tapes
Pressure on ET when the RNRL news was not carried
Niira Radia Tapes
Niira Radia Tapes
"I have twisted the article in Pratap Narayan’s name – I have only twisted the article because I can’t write an article on an issue which is before the Supreme Court"
Niira Radia Tapes
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Niira Radia Tapes
Niira Radia Tapes
Niira Radia Tapes
Director, Tata Power, and then someone else
Niira Radia Tapes
Please help identify this (possibly) member of Parliament
Niira Radia Tapes
80(1) D benefit -- one sided with MDA
Niira Radia Tapes
'The finance ministry has told ET that there is no benefit for RIL. This will be only applicable for future NELP blocks'
Niira Radia Tapes
Niira Radia Tapes
ICICI, AT&T
Niira Radia Tapes
Niira Radia Tapes
'I understand that Maran is going hammer and tongs for Raja. And I hope Raja doesn’t trip or slip' '...the chief justice has issued a statement that no minister called the high court judge.'
Niira Radia Tapes
"I heard Mahesh Agarwal saying government is not a respondent in this case." " How can they lie! Such liars! I will just have a word with all the channels, sir"
Niira Radia Tapes
Mahesh Agarwal's ticker removed
Niira Radia Tapes
'If the older fellow has so much of an influence, how come the younger brother is able to do so much?'
Niira Radia Tapes
'I want Manoj to meet Sameer Manchanda because Sameer and Manoj had a long chat in between on the cable thing'
Niira Radia Tapes
Niira Radia Tapes
Niira Radia Tapes
'I met Raja today. I went to see him today and he is alright. He is a happy man. The Chief Justice has given his clearance on him and he’s happy. He’s really happy with that'
Niira Radia Tapes
Praful Patel's made 15,000 crores
Niira Radia Tapes
Niira Radia Tapes
Niira Radia Tapes
"They’ve approached Ratan to become the chairman of that advisory committee"
Niira Radia Tapes
Niira Radia Tapes
Anil Ambani itinerary
Niira Radia Tapes
Asking Sunil Arora to send pointers for Tarun Das who's meeting the PM on how Naresh Goyal and Vijay Mallya have connived with the minister to destroy Air India
Niira Radia Tapes
ET finally did not carry the story. "We’ll just handle it with CNBC and with Mint and HT"
Niira Radia Tapes
Praful Patel 'screwed up the airline'
Niira Radia Tapes
"He will use the subscriber’s argument and will going to Vahanvati and Vahanvati will give some silly opinion and again we will be stuck."
Niira Radia Tapes
Tata writing to Power Ministry
Niira Radia Tapes
Niira Radia Tapes
arranging Baijal TATA meeting
Niira Radia Tapes
Niira Radia Tapes
Niira Radia Tapes
"Raja is not doing anything but he is still guiding Anil and Anil is trying to use him to go to Azhagiri and get the Fertiliser sector to be compromised on this gas issue"
Niira Radia Tapes
'Arun Shourie is speaking as a listed speaker in the Rajya Sabha for the BJP but fortunately we have managed to make him the second speaker but made Venkaiah [Naidu] the first'
Niira Radia Tapes
'It was very helpful, Manoj'
Niira Radia Tapes
Sunil Mittal wants to build bridges with Ratan
Niira Radia Tapes
Sukukumar, Mint
Niira Radia Tapes
Tony has destructive strategy'
Niira Radia Tapes
Niira Radia Tapes
'Maybe maybe I should speak to you on some other phone number or something' 'Why, you think they are monitoring my number?'

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Transcripts
In some of these transcripts, Niira is spelt as Nira and in some, indeed, as 'Mira'

***

May 22, 2009, 13:03:19

Vir Sanghvi: Hi Mira.

Mira: Hi Vir. Where are you Delhi or… 

Vir Sanghvi: I’m in Jaipur. Coming back this evening. 

Mira: Okay. I just wanted to, I’ve been talking to my Tamil Nadu friends.

Vir Sanghvi: Okay.

Mira: I just need to, I don’t know whether you are in the position to get through to anyone at Congress. I just met Kanni just now.

Vir Sanghvi: Okay.

Mira: And I’ve been, you know, we reunited since yesterday. The problem is…

Vir Sanghvi: I was suppose to meet Sonia today but I’ve been stuck here. So, now it’s becoming tomorrow. I’ve been meeting with Rahul but tell me?

Mira: No, I’ll tell you what – they are not understanding that they are actually communicating with the wrong guy. Not because I detached Maran but actually the father has not nominated Maran to negotiate. Now, you know, it’s like a banana republic where the cabinet…

Vir Sanghvi: Then why Maran became the face, they all hate Maran.

Mira: No. He is not, he is not. I know, no. But the Congress is under the impression. They have already apparently indicated to Maran that the Prime Minister will not give infrastructure berth to DMK, which, but he himself is desperately pushing for an infrastructure berth for himself.

Vir Sanghvi: Right.

Mira: But the problem is that there is a leader which is Kanni’s brother which is Alagiri, who’s won that election and he is a mass leader.

Vir Sanghvi: Okay.

Mira: Now what has apparently Maran has gone and indicated to Congress is that he will accept a MOS independent and you leave it with me, everything will be okay. 

Vir Sanghvi: Okay.

Mira: Which blames Balu, Raja and Maran Cabinet posts independent to Alagiri and MOS to Kanni. 

Vir Sanghvi: Okay.

Mira: Now, Alagiri is a very, you know, he is, he is a mass leader. He controls half of Tamil Nadu for Karunanidhi’s point of view.

Vir Sanghvi: Okay.

Mira: He is far too, too senior for Maran. So, what he has told his father that if you make Maran a cabinet minister…

Vir Sanghvi: Yeah.

Mira: …I’ll not come into the cabinet. And the father cannot afford to upset him because… 

Vir Sanghvi: Obviously.

Mira: …simply because of his position. 

Vir Sanghvi: Yeah.

Mira: Right now the Congress doesn’t seem to be understanding this. 

Vir Sanghvi: So, who should they talk to?

Mira: They need to, look, they need to talk directly to Karunanidhi, they need to talk to Kanni. 

Vir Sanghvi: Sonia spoke to him yesterday, you know.

Mira: No, she didn’t speak to him. Only Prime Minister spoke even that was Kanni was translating for him. It was very brief that, you know, let’s try and resolve this issue. There is nothing at all and whatever. They need to get Ghulam Nabi Azad to speak to Kanimozhi. 

Vir Sanghvi: Okay.

Mira: Seriously, that’s the only thing that will work and Kanni will take them to her father.

Vir Sanghvi: I won’t get into Sonia in the short term, let me try and get through to Ahmed.

Mira: No. But they need to speak to Kanni and Kanni will take him to their, her father directly.

Vir Sanghvi: Okay.

Mira: He has no problem with three cabinet berths at all. In fact it is the Congress that messed it up.

Vir Sanghvi: Mm-hmm. 

Mira: Had they, had they not kept on insisting and kept on pushing Maran forward themselves have been pushing Maran forward. They would have left it to Raja and, and Balu even if they wanted or Raja and Alagiri and Kanni would taken independent, nobody will, it is Congress they started this whole Maran dialogue. 

Vir Sanghvi: Oh, I have been thinking that DMK nominated Maran. 

Mira: No. No. No. No, they did, they’ve sent a list earlier with five portfolios and Maran’s name because father was pushed … so he had to send a list with everybody’s name on it. But he was hoping that Congress would come back and say okay we will accept Raja or we will not, or not Raja, we will give you only three portfolios right? But they have not able to, the communication that’s been happening in Congress with DMK has been complete warped. They are talking to the wrong guys. 

Vir Sanghvi: Okay. Let me try and get through to Ahmed. 

Mira: The, the simplest way is Kanni [Indiscernible] [0:03:24]. 

Vir Sanghvi: Yeah.

Mira: And Kanni [Indiscernible] [0:03:27] will take them to her father directly.

Vir Sanghvi: Okay.

Mira: And they can have this, you know, whatever are the, the concerns, whatever they want to say, let them say in front of Kanni. 

Vir Sanghvi: And he’ll never mind. He will not mind.

Mira: Yeah, they should say, they should say we don’t want Maran. 

Vir Sanghvi: Okay. Done. Let me just try and get through and I’ll let you know soon. 

Mira: But the moment you drop Maran, your problem gets resolved because Alagiri has done okay. 

Vir Sanghvi: Okay.

Mira: Yeah.

Vir Sanghvi: Okay.

Mira: Okay. Give him this message. She is right now…

Vir Sanghvi: I just…

Mira: [Indiscernible] [0:03:51] She is in her South Avenue residence.

Vir Sanghvi: They have a mobile no, you know?

Mira: I just met her.

Vir Sanghvi: Okay.

Mira: And some Tamil Nadu Congress guys also want just now to meet her. 

Vir Sanghvi: Okay.

Mira: I don’t think it needs to be done at that level. It needs to be done at, at Ghulam Nabi Azad level or…

Vir Sanghvi: Well, I’ll talk with Ahmed. I’m going to talk to him.

Mira: Yeah.

Vir Sanghvi: Yeah. 

***

May 22, 2009, 13:27:07

Vir Sanghvi: Hi Nira.

Nira: Vir, just one thing, you know, explain to him…

Vir Sanghvi: Yeah.

Nira: …that when they send their list of five cabinet ministers, they had sent Maran for Railways…

Vir Sanghvi: Okay.

Nira: They had send Surface Transportation for Balu…

Vir Sanghvi: Okay.

Nira: …Telecom for Raja.

Vir Sanghvi: Okay.

Nira: …Health for Kanni…

Vir Sanghvi: Okay.

Nira: …Power for Balu, Power for Balu.

Vir Sanghvi: Okay.

Nira: And Surface for Alagiri…

Vir Sanghvi: Okay.

Nira: …knowing because, because Karunanidhi was under pressure from his family…

Vir Sanghvi: Yeah.

Nira: …knowing Power and Railways would never be accepted.

Vir Sanghvi: That’s right.

Nira: Both people would have been dropped.

Vir Sanghvi: Oh, I see.

Nira: And he says, you know, this whole, because he doesn’t know how to explain the man, you know, old…

Vir Sanghvi: Yeah.

Nira: …but actually and then they could have got away with two with Alagiri and Raja and Kanni would have happily accepted MoS as independent.

Vir Sanghvi: That’s right. Yeah, yeah. So, basically its Maran know?

Nira: Yeah. So, the moment you drop him you solved your problem.

Vir Sanghvi: Who was he dealing with?

Nira: They are dealing with Maran, Congress is talking to Maran.

Vir Sanghvi: No. But who in the Congress?

Nira: I believe various people, I know he is in touch with Ahmed Patel, he is in touch with Ghulam Nabi Azad.

Vir Sanghvi: Okay.

Nira: But Ghulam Nabi Azad doesn’t like him.

Vir Sanghvi: No. Even Ahmed doesn’t like him. Nobody likes him.

Nira: So – yeah, but I think we just need to – seriously there is only one route, talk to the daughter she will take you to him…

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May 22, 2009, 22:16:23

Nira: Hi.

Vir Sanghvi: Hi, can you talk?

Nira: Hi.

Vir Sanghvi: Can you talk?

Nira: Yeah, yeah. Okay.

Vir Sanghvi: You know, Maran did not meet Sonia.

Nira: He did not, they are not telling everybody.

Vir Sanghvi: He will not meet Sonia, he is been there, they say we’re not treating him as official spokesperson at all. He called just now, I saw your message, he is nonstop calling up Ghulam Nabi Azad every half an hour and making new demands and all that.

Nira: Mm-hmm. 

Vir Sanghvi: As far as we’re concerned there is two wives, one brother, one sister, one nephew it’s all got very complicated for us. We’ve made a basic offer, if Karunanidhi responds to us and tell this that he would like to respond directly, he would like to talk to Ms. Gandhi. He spoke only to Manmohan Singh. We would be more than happy but we’re not going to chase them now. We’ve told Maran that also they’ve to come back to us and tell us what they think of our offer. And apparently the DMK is getting very bad press in Chennai.

Nira: Mm-hmm. 

Vir Sanghvi: So, he said we’re going to wait for two days. Let them come back, we are of the line that this is not a Congress DMK problem, this is an internal DMK problem because they can’t get their act together between all his wives and children and nephews and all of that. He is got to get his act together and nominate one person and we would be very happy to deal with him. We are not happy with this Maran who keeps calling up Ghulam Nabi and saying talk to me, talk to me. They are not taking him seriously.

Nira: Very interesting. I’m glad of – you spoke to Ghulam Nabi, is it?

Vir Sanghvi: I spoke to Ahmed.

Nira: Ahmed [Indiscernible] [0:01:35].

Vir Sanghvi: Ghulam Nabi is not very key figure, Ahmed is the key figure.

Nira: Right, right, right.

Vir Sanghvi: Yeah. So, Ahmed he says Ghulam has been dealing with Maran. But Ghulam is not our official person and we’re not taking Maran seriously. As far as they are concerned they’ve asked for five crucial ministry, they’ve asked for five crucial ministry, it’s an idiotic and unreasonable demand. We’ve made them a perfectly reasonable demand. Now, it is for Karunanidhi to get back to us, Kanni come and see us, anyone can come and see us and say I’ll put you on the line with my father et cetera, lines are, doors are open to her. But we can’t have a situation where Maran keeps calling us and saying I’m the person and telling Ghulam, I want this, I want that, who is Maran?

Nira: Mm-hmm. 

Vir Sanghvi: Maran has gone back apparently today to Chennai?

Nira: Yeah. He has gone back, yeah. I’ll tell him to call back.

Vir Sanghvi: He says, we told him – we told Maran also that we’ll deal with Karunanidhi, so he has gone back. So, they are quite hopeful they say, we made a very reasonable offer, we’ve lot of regards for Karunanidhi, we would like to deal with him. We have no regard for Maran.

Nira: Okay. That’s interesting.

Vir Sanghvi: Yeah.

Nira: I better tell them this.

Vir Sanghvi: Yeah. Then he further, I mean, just let me know and I’ll take it further.

Nira: Okay, great. And…

Vir Sanghvi: Yeah. And 1:30 tomorrow, you know…

Nira: …we meet 1:30, 1:30 yeah, yeah.

Vir Sanghvi: Yeah. Yeah. See you then, bye, bye. 

***

May 23, 2009, 22:26:42

Vir Sanghvi: Hello.

Mira: Sorry to disturb you. 

Vir Sanghvi: Hi, no problem. 

Mira: They had a meeting. 

Vir Sanghvi: Okay.

Mira: M.K. Narayanan had come.

Vir Sanghvi: Okay.

Mira: And as suggested it was Kanni only. 

Vir Sanghvi: Okay.

Mira: And they had a, they are still stuck to their four formula and one independent. 

Vir Sanghvi: Okay.

Mira: But these people will also think about it and let him know tomorrow morning. He is…

Vir Sanghvi: But they will not send him about the family or whatever, right? 

Mira: No. He clarified everything that you had told him.

Vir Sanghvi: Okay, very good. 

Mira: I think that there was no issue and there was, and there was lot of relief from this Chief Minister’s side. 

Vir Sanghvi: Okay.

Mira: And he realized that, you know, this is all being done by…

Vir Sanghvi: By Maran.

Mira: …yeah. [Indiscernible] [0:00:42] But the thing is that it appears that he is still under a lot of pressure to take Maran, you know, so…

Vir Sanghvi: Where is this coming from this pressure?

Mira: It’s coming from Stalin and his sister Sylvie.

Vir Sanghvi: Okay.

Mira: So, I believe Maran has given about 600 crores to Dayalu, Stalin’s mother.

Vir Sanghvi: 600 Crores, okay?

Mira: 600 Crores, is what I’m told.

Vir Sanghvi: It’s hard to argue with that kind of pressure?

Mira: Isn’t it. So, he is…

Vir Sanghvi: Yeah.

Mira: …but no, but he doesn’t know, the father doesn’t, I mean,

Vir Sanghvi: Doesn’t realize what?

Mira: Doesn’t realize that. But this is the feedback that Alagiri has got. 

Vir Sanghvi: Okay.

Mira: And …

Vir Sanghvi: So, basically what they want is a little more flexibility and posts right? They want probably more cabinets or something? 

Mira: They are saying one more cabinet and Kanni was independent charge.

Vir Sanghvi: Yeah.

Mira: But if they stick to three and give independent charge, then Kanni gets her independent and then Alagiri, Balu and Raja come in?

Vir Sanghvi: That is not so bad, you know.

Mira: Yeah, so I think…

Vir Sanghvi: …unless Maran is one of the cabinet.

Mira: Yeah. But yeah, unless Maran is one of the cabinet. But I don’t think he can give it to three family members.

Vir Sanghvi: Yeah.

Mira: That will send a very wrong signals.

Vir Sanghvi: That’s right.

Mira: So, the best thing is, you know, if I don’t know whether Narayanan can say that, I mean he can’t say who should be the people. But he could probably go back and say that, you know, Balu and Raja and Alagiri is the best option and Kanni, you know. 

Vir Sanghvi: And it’s good for the government also, that doesn’t seem to be giving it to the family.

Mira: Yeah. Yeah but then I don’t know whether he is in the position to take names, you know.

Vir Sanghvi: Because Balu and Raja are saying it is being spread by Maran saying that we don’t, nobody wants them because they are crooks to advance his own career, you know.

Mira: Yeah. Yeah. So, if there was anything that could be said which is, that, that you know, you know, if, if Narayanan was to come back tomorrow and say by looking, I think, we think that may be the three and we’ll see a little later for the fourth one. But for now let’s just look at Alagiri, Balu and Raja…

Vir Sanghvi: And, and, and see Maran…

Mira: …and we can give independent to Kanni. 

Vir Sanghvi: Yeah. Makes sense

Mira: And, and that would be a, a good thing for him to say. And they are asking for environment and forest.

Vir Sanghvi: See Narayanan will talk to PM. Then they have to communicate, he won’t talk to the Congress President 

Mira: hmm?

Vir Sanghvi: He won’t talk to Congress president. So, somebody … he’s PM’s man, he has gone on behalf of PM. So, they will, PMO will send its feedback to Congress party. So, that stage my friends will get a …. 

Mira: So they will in any case speak to Ahmed, you know. 

Vir Sanghvi: Yeah. Yeah, they will. And nothing will happen without his getting involved.

Mira: Yeah.

Vir Sanghvi: So, I’ll speak to him right away and convey this?

Mira: Yeah. But maybe that, you know, he would have to specify then that we are not too comfortable with Maran…

Vir Sanghvi: Yeah.

Mira: …and let it be Balu and Raja because so much has been said and then it would also, also send a wrong message that if you don’t take Balu and Raja now. But I don’t know whether they will say that?

Vir Sanghvi: I don’t know. Well let’s, let’s. No, harm trying. 

Mira: But therefore Kanni, is asking for, he is not told Narayanan this but they’ve suggested a couple of ministries.

Vir Sanghvi: Which one?

Mira: But they are saying okay, telecom is going to Raja in any case.

Vir Sanghvi: Okay.

Mira: That, the old man is very clear about.

Vir Sanghvi: Okay.

Mira: But as far as the other two are concerned, he doesn’t mind. He is not very fussed about chemical, fertilizer and labor. 

Vir Sanghvi: Okay.

Mira: How funny, he would prefer that she gets independent charge Environment and Forest or something like that. You know, where she can get her teeth in and she is I think, she is very upright with it. So, they shouldn’t have any problem with that or by the way aviation also. 

Vir Sanghvi: What about Civil Aviation?

Mira: And Civil Aviation. 

Vir Sanghvi: It gives her the, it gives her the profile she would need, you know.

Mira: She wants the aviation because, why she says aviation because she can do Chennai airport, Salem and Madurai and all that, you know… 

Vir Sanghvi: Yeah.

Mira: …it gives her the, the foothold for the political side.

Vir Sanghvi: We don’t have anyone there. Let me talk. 

Mira: Yeah. And she is intelligent and she will do just, because they are saying Environment and Forest and Aviation for Kanni in independent charge. 

Vir Sanghvi: I’ll pass this on?

Mira: Yeah. Thanks. Thanks to you.

Vir Sanghvi: Yeah. 

Mira: That was really great, you know, you all, I mean it was exactly as you had said and…

Vir Sanghvi: Okay.

Mira: They were very relieved and she was so relieved. So, wants to say thank you to you personally. 

Vir Sanghvi: I’ll pass it…

Mira: Let’s hope tomorrow it will – and Alagiri has got all those messages. My person came back and confirmed.

Vir Sanghvi: Oh, very good. 

***

May 24, 2009, 12:27:06

Nira: Vir.

Vir Sanghvi: Yeah hi. Tell me.

Nira: Hi, hi. Currently they had given a list just for four people to Narayanan

Vir Sanghvi: Okay. Okay.

Nira: Then today when Narayanan went back there, they gave three – they got, I mean, Kanni got her father to agree to three…

Vir Sanghvi: Okay.

Nira: …thinking that they will have this independent charge issue. But Congress came back and said we’ll not do independent charge.

Vir Sanghvi: Independent charge for anyone or independent charge for anyone or for Kanni

Nira: For Kanni because three for the cabinet which was any case what was the original formula…

Vir Sanghvi: Okay.

Nira: …and the only the extra that they asked like we don’t want a fourth cabinet post but you give us an independent charge post…

Vir Sanghvi: Okay.

Nira: …and then the independent charge.

Vir Sanghvi: Right.

Nira: And that Congress seems to has, not agreed to.

Vir Sanghvi: Okay. Let me find out.

Nira: Yeah. [Indiscernible] [0:00:52] Narayanan has left with the list that…

Vir Sanghvi: But, I mean, Narayanan is just a messenger. So, now the decision will be taken.

Nira: If they can… 

Audio

  • Vir Sanghvi--42-188819-0-24-20090522-130319
  • Vir Sanghvi-05-188819-0-02-20090522-132707
  • Vir Sanghvi--10-188819-0-06-20090522-221623
  • Vir Snaghvi--36-188819-0-22-20090522-225011
  • Vir Sanghvi--15-188819-0-10-20090523-222642
  • Vir Sanghvi--43-188819-0-24-20090524-122706

Also See: Vir Sanghvi's response on his blog

  • Web Editor's note: In his response Mr Sanghvi only refers to his August 15 piece but there was one on June 20 which is relevant and is discussed here by Ms Radia and her colleague Manoj
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'Have they not lost their heads a bit much in the last 48 hours?'
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Oh God. So now what? What should I tell them? Tell me what should I tell them?
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'[Kanimozhi] agrees that they [DMK] shouldn't have sent the list the way they did'
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'PM was not keen on Maran'
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'Prime Minister can’t talk on a phone to dad and convey... Prime Minister is also, you know, very soft spoken and dad can’t hear that clearly also'
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'I’ll talk to Azad right after I get out of RCR'
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'wo Daya kaa aur Rahul ko kuch business interest hai toh'
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'My God. You know, he [Dayanidhi Maran] is watching everything you’re doing…'
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'I was supposed to meet Sonia today ... I’ve been meeting with Rahul ... I won’t get into Sonia in the short term, let me try and get through to Ahmed'
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'Congress has been totally confused as to who they need to speak to'
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'...seriously there is only one route, talk to the daughter she will take you to him…'
Niira Radia Tapes
'Daya is not talking to Ahmed Patel, Daya is not talking to Ahmed Patel, I don’t know who Daya is talking to'
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'Let me call Ghulam then. Let me call him'
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'Congress never said anything about Raja'
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'Your friend Sunil Mittal... He’s lobbying against Raja... Then I made Barkha call up Congress, and get a statement from Congress'
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Mukesh Ambani said: ‘Haan yaar, you know Ranjan, you’re right, ab to Congress apnii dukaan hai (now the Congress is our shop).’
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'Then the Leader [Karunanidhi] said then you [Maran] join the Congress'
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'He’s [Maran] trying to get somebody from the congress say things against Raja to dad'
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'We made a very reasonable offer, we’ve lot of regards for Karunanidhi, we would like to deal with him. We have no regard for Maran'
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'I think the government should insist on going in a big way about the Dish TV or whatever, or to make sure the entire cable network is open to everybody'
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'So who planted in the minds of the Congress saying that Azhagiri doesn’t know English?… I know…'
Niira Radia Tapes
'Niira Radia: So, I believe Maran has given about 600 crores to Dayalu, Stalin’s mother. Vir Sanghvi: 600 Crores, okay? Niira Radia: 600 Crores, is what I’m told. Vir Sanghvi: It’s hard to argue with that kind of pressure'
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'Niira Radia: You didn’t put aviation, Kanni. Kanimozhi: You know, just an aviation I will take it up. No problem'
Niira Radia Tapes
'Tell Sunil Mittal, you have to work along with Raja for another five years'
Niira Radia Tapes
'Narayanan is just a messenger. So, now the decision will be taken'
Niira Radia Tapes
About Nita Ambani-Shobha De
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Natasha for Nita
Niira Radia Tapes
Counter Campaign'
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Meeting NK Singh and Sharad Yadav
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Vir to Interview MDA
Niira Radia Tapes
See how Tony works
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Director and Chief Executive Officer of Vaishnavi Group
Niira Radia Tapes
BJP Revolt
Niira Radia Tapes
Negotiation over apology for the Forbes report on Ambani children
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'Ek hi aadmi ko apne ko protect karne kaa hai, woh hai Mukesh Ambani … baakii I don’t really care.. Is mein toh kitna bhi 10, 20, 50 crore kharchaa hogaa toh koi problem nahi hai'
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Ratan Tata: 'I’m surprised that Raja after all that you supposedly did for him is playing this game'
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"If the story [Tata-Bharti talks] comes out, I will then take it right to the top, because the story is wrong. I won’t leave it"
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Instigating Shiv Sena
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"Ratan is to get over the Sunil Mittal allergy, he must get over the Mukesh Ambani allergy, he needs friends also, no?"
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Managing Director and CEO. Tata Communications: About RCom stake selling and stock manipulations
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Third “wife” of Karunanidhi and mother of DMK MP, Kanimozhi on the Voltas connection and building on TRIL land
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'There is some continuous rumour about this Venugopal Dhoot buying out these [Datacom] guys'
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"Senthil and Rahul Joshi dono ki le lii"
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Probably Tata Power employee
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Judgment Day
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One way…Totally managed judgment'
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Fixing up panel for Budget discussion on ET Now and a personal meeting
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"A nuclear deal happens and you fix the spectrum. You know, …something else happens and you fix coal"
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'I would imagine that share holders are gonna have a view: Why should you start, are you a fool to spend 7 billion dollars to give it for free to your brother?'
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Niira Radia Tapes
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Raja: 'I have a party to run'
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Outlook Business guy travelling to Barmer
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'It’s not written by a judge. You can tell that from way it has been written'
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'K. Venugopal: How is Anil more influential on the High Court side? Niira Radia: Vanavati'
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Niira Radia Tapes
Niira Radia Tapes
'There is some fuss about the government coming out with some ordinance on the gas price issue'
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'There is information going around that Reliance is pulling out of the Haryana SEZ... that Jhajjar... that there are difficulties'
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Niira Radia Tapes
SC Caveat
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'What kind of story do you want? Because this will go as Counterpoint, so it will be like most-most read, but it can’t seem too slanted, yet it is an ideal opportunity to get all the points across'
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‘This Litigant Told Me He Paid Vijender Jain 9 Cr’
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'Dekho in this country, dono side mein fix karne kii capacity hain... Chhotaa bhaai mobile jyaada hai. ...everything is fixed now these days'
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AI disinvestment -- asset stripping
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On Vir's article
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'Vir Sanghvi actually pre-empted me a little (Laughs) There was a line I was going to take ... In critical resources there should be, uh, national policy... You are not a Banana Republic...'
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"Sunil Jain's article -- so stupid! I think we shouldn't (respond) but a letter to the editor..."
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Fixing a meeting between MDA abd RNT
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'Empowered Group of Ministers on KG gas, it seems to be… is going to be reconstituted'
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"Ma'm there is some action going to happen at Bombay High Court"
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Pressure on ET when the RNRL news was not carried
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"I have twisted the article in Pratap Narayan’s name – I have only twisted the article because I can’t write an article on an issue which is before the Supreme Court"
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Director, Tata Power, and then someone else
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Please help identify this (possibly) member of Parliament
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80(1) D benefit -- one sided with MDA
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'The finance ministry has told ET that there is no benefit for RIL. This will be only applicable for future NELP blocks'
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Niira Radia Tapes
ICICI, AT&T
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'I understand that Maran is going hammer and tongs for Raja. And I hope Raja doesn’t trip or slip' '...the chief justice has issued a statement that no minister called the high court judge.'
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"I heard Mahesh Agarwal saying government is not a respondent in this case." " How can they lie! Such liars! I will just have a word with all the channels, sir"
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Mahesh Agarwal's ticker removed
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'If the older fellow has so much of an influence, how come the younger brother is able to do so much?'
Niira Radia Tapes
'I want Manoj to meet Sameer Manchanda because Sameer and Manoj had a long chat in between on the cable thing'
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'I met Raja today. I went to see him today and he is alright. He is a happy man. The Chief Justice has given his clearance on him and he’s happy. He’s really happy with that'
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Praful Patel's made 15,000 crores
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"They’ve approached Ratan to become the chairman of that advisory committee"
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Anil Ambani itinerary
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Asking Sunil Arora to send pointers for Tarun Das who's meeting the PM on how Naresh Goyal and Vijay Mallya have connived with the minister to destroy Air India
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ET finally did not carry the story. "We’ll just handle it with CNBC and with Mint and HT"
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Praful Patel 'screwed up the airline'
Niira Radia Tapes
"He will use the subscriber’s argument and will going to Vahanvati and Vahanvati will give some silly opinion and again we will be stuck."
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Tata writing to Power Ministry
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Niira Radia Tapes
arranging Baijal TATA meeting
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Niira Radia Tapes
Niira Radia Tapes
"Raja is not doing anything but he is still guiding Anil and Anil is trying to use him to go to Azhagiri and get the Fertiliser sector to be compromised on this gas issue"
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'Arun Shourie is speaking as a listed speaker in the Rajya Sabha for the BJP but fortunately we have managed to make him the second speaker but made Venkaiah [Naidu] the first'
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'It was very helpful, Manoj'
Niira Radia Tapes
Sunil Mittal wants to build bridges with Ratan
Niira Radia Tapes
Sukukumar, Mint
Niira Radia Tapes
Tony has destructive strategy'
Niira Radia Tapes
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'Maybe maybe I should speak to you on some other phone number or something' 'Why, you think they are monitoring my number?'

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