The Indian media loves to ridicule Pakistan and the state of its democracy. It is proud of its traditions that uphold the rule of law in India. It is a different matter that there is a lot that it has reason to be ashamed of, including the night of February 23, 1991 when 125 personnel of 4 Rajputana Rifles belonging to the Army reportedly cordoned off Kunan Poshpora village in Trehgam Tehsil of border district Kupwara, some 100 km north of Srinagar, and ordered all the men to come out in the open. The troops entered the houses, and allegedly gang-raped the women ranging from the ages of ten to 80 years. The number of women is not important as even one is too many but the people of Kashmir claim that more than 200 women were raped. The government estimate hovers around 55.
The courts in Pakistan are criticized for their inability to convict the accused in the Mumbai attacks. In the case of Kunan Poshpora, what to talk of any convictions, not a single accused has ever been arrested. The people are just experiencing one investigation after another.
In June 2013, the Chief Judicial Magistrate Kupwara, while dismissing the closure report of Jammu and Kashmir police in the case, asked police to "further investigate to unravel the identity of those who happen to be perpetrators." The court had said that the investigation would be conducted by an officer not below the rank of SSP and within a time bound period of three months. Even this time period has expired and nobody has heard of the report.
The Indian foreign minister, who incidentally is a Muslim, during has visit to Kashmir condemned the alleged gang-rape of the village women when asked about it by a reporter. However, he advised the Kashmiris to forgive and forget and move forward. Now this is one advice that the government of Pakistan should keep handy all the time and share with the Indians each time it accuses Pakistan of not prosecuting the terrorists for the offenses committed in India.
There were, of course, protests in Kashmir after this. There were, of course, governmental investigations but they rejected the allegations as "baseless." Apart from the fact that international human rights organizations like Amnesty, Human Rights Watch and the US State Department expressed serious doubts about the integrity of these investigations and the manner in which they were conducted, stating that the Indian government launched a "campaign to acquit the army of charges of human rights violations”, which woman and then a Kashmiri Muslim one, would levy such a false charge?
We in South Asia live in a male chauvinist society where the victim rather than the rapist are usually punished and ostracized. Social stigma generated out of this incident has resulted in women of this village facing difficulties in getting married even today. The villagers are so isolated that only two students are said to have gone to university since the massive rape; most choose to drop out after eighth class than bear the taunts and barbs directed at them when they go to the other villages to continue their studies. The only government school in the affected village, I am informed, teaches up to standard eight.
It is a sad reflection on the community but many of the other villagers have reportedly banned all social contact with the victims' families. Parents say it is difficult to marry off their children. At least one family has confessed to marrying off their 16-year-old daughter to a 50-year-old divorcee and father of three because "none of the young men in the village came forward" and "a search for prospective grooms outside the village was never an option after the incident."
So much for the rule of law and justice India.
Was it determined, whether the men had availed uniforms, but were not army personnel? During the Kargil War, there were men who were not in Pakistan Army uniforms, who were manning the bunkers that the Pakistan Army would not garrison, because they were Indian outposts. These warriors, on the peaks, had Pakistan identification documents and cards. It must be an embarrassment to the Indian Army to publicly say, these men were Pakistan Army personnel. I don't believe they were, and the Indian authorities have to identify men with official army identification as some identity, and they did call them Pakistan Army personnel, in mufti. These men, who identified themselves as Pakistan soldiers, didn't get human reinforcements, of any kind, when they lost men on Kargil.
How were the men identified in the incident, in Kashmir, which indicts Indian soldiers as men who harm the modesty of women in their motherland? Were uniforms misplaced, were they removed from army supplies, by non commissioned soldiers?
Is a Shia a Muslim, according to Sunni's, and are Sunni's Muslim, according to the Shia? There are many groups of Muslim believers, who don't as individual identities or groups, call the other groups Muslim, at all. Are all Muslims in Kashmir, of a particular identity as such an individual identitity of a grouping might be? What if a group of individuals, felt this might not be wrong, in the implication to what might be?
There is only one tyruth.
Genocide of Hindus and Sikhs in Pakistan while in contrast muslims who demanded partition and Pakistan , not only continued to live in India but have grown at a much faster pace than the non-muslims , in the land that they wanted divided.
So Hindus and Muslims from 22% of population in W Pakistan to around 1% today.
Muslims from 9% of population of India in 1947 , to about 16% today.
So ISI now has a reserved space here to make false and baseless allegations of the vilest kind ? Regarding Kashmir , few years back there was a case of alleged rape of two Kashmiri women , who were drowned. The allegation was that they were raped and then thrown in river. Incidentally , the event was reported by the family as a case of drowning but they subsequently changed the version of their story. Meanwhile when an investigation was launched and samples taken and sent to AIMS Delhi for forensic investigation , it was found that the samples were inconsistent. The doctors at the local hospital , later confessed to fabricating vaginal samples under pressure from seperatist islamists.
Dear Anus Jillani,
Please see the following articles that demonstrate that your attempts to create a false equivalence between India and the Islamic republic of Pakistan are fooling no one:
"..It seems that Pakistan is determined to exist as an Islamic state, comprising only of Sunni Muslims. The unwritten policy to attain this objective is based on five prongs. First, subject the minorities to terror attacks and pogroms. Second, allow terror to sink in enough to cause a general exodus, mainly towards India. Third, convert and marry the female population of the minorities into the Muslim fold. Fourth, impose stringent laws that force the weak minded to convert voluntarily. Fifth, make sure that the government and other institutions make the right noises about protection of minority rights so as to keep international scrutiny at bay.
With these prongs in place, Pakistan has been carrying out the most insidious ethnic cleansing over the last six decades right under the eyes of the world."
2) Here is how Khaled Ahmed a Pakistani writer describes what Muslims are doing all over the world:
"..When Muslims acquire a state they go into a kind of recidivist trance: give us utopia or nothing. They make noises about the “modern Islamic” state but the moment such a state is created, they start squabbling over it. Despite their denial of “theology”, this is all they have when thinking of the state. They deny the presence of a clergy in Islam but their society is crawling with it, and despite avowals to the contrary, they slavishly follow their frozen-in-time medieval doctrines, savagely discriminatory to women and non-Muslims....
For now, in Olivier Roy’s words, Muslims are busy creating chaos. Presumably, after this chaos ends, there will be an order that gives the Muslim common man a life that he can live. What we have now is described by Abu Bakr Naji, the founding philosopher of the al-Qaeda-linked group, al-Shabab, in the title of his book, The Management of Savagery. Pakistan is in the grip of this “management of savagery”, pulling the “modern” state down through the killing of innocent people — with the Muslim population indoctrinated in favour of savagery by the “defective” (in the eyes of the Taliban) sharia currently in force."
The truth about Islam and Muslims is known to everyone. Don't waste time making excuses - reform Islam and join the 21st century.
Why are we listening to this buffoon living in aptly named Denialistan. The last thing we need is to get homilies from our rascally neighbor about justice and the rule of law.
We at Outlookindia.com welcome feedback and your comments, including scathing criticism
1. Scathing, passionate, even angry critiques are welcome, but please do not indulge in abuse and invective. Our Primary concern is to keep the debate civil. We urge our users to try and express their disagreements without being disagreeable. Personal attacks are not welcome. No ad hominem please.
2. Please do not post the same message again and again in the same or different threads
3. Please keep your responses confined to the subject matter of the article you are responding to. Please note that our comments section is not a general free-for-all but for feedback to articles/blogs posted on the site
4. Our endeavour is to keep these forums unmoderated and unexpurgated. But if any of the above three conditions are violated, we reserve the right to delete any comment that we deem objectionable and also to withdraw posting privileges from the abuser. Please also note that hate-speech is punishable by law and in extreme circumstances, we may be forced to take legal action by tracing the IP addresses of the poster.
5. If someone is being abusive or personal, or generally being a troll or a flame-baiter, please do not descend to their level. The best response to such posters is to ignore them and send us a message at Mail AT outlookindia DOT com with the subject header COMPLAINT
6. Please do not copy and paste copyrighted material. If you do think that an article elsewhere has relevance to the point you wish to make, please only quote what is considered fair-use and provide a link to the article under question.
7. There is no particular outlookindia.com line on any subject. The views expressed in our opinion section are those of the author concerned and not that of all of outlookindia.com or all its authors.
8. Please also note that you are solely responsible for the comments posted by you on the site. The comments could be deleted or edited entirely at our discretion if we find them objectionable. However, the mere fact of their existence on our site does not mean that we necessarily approve of their contents. In short, the onus of responsibility for the comments remains solely with the authors thereof. Outlookindia.com or any of its group publications, may, however, retains the right to publish any of these comments, with or without editing, in any medium whatsoever. It is therefore in your own interest to be careful before posting.
9.Outlookindia.com is not responsible in any manner whatsoever for how any search engine -- such as Google, Bing etc -- caches or displays these comments. Please note that you are solely responsible for posting these comments and it is a privilege being granted to our registered users which can be withdrawn in case of abuse. To reiterate:
a. Comments once posted can only be deleted at the discretion of outlookindia.com
b. The comments reflect the views of the authors and not of outlookindia.com
c. outlookindia.com is not responsible in any manner whatsoever for the way search engines cache or display these comments
d. Please therefore take due caution before you post any comments as your words could potentially be used against you
10. We have an online thread for our comments policy:
You are welcome to post your suggestions here or in case you have a specific issue, to directly email us at Mail AT outlookindia DOT com with the subject header COMPLAINT