Jitender Gupta
We the discriminated: Young Afro-Americans Yoyce Jones, Malena Amusa, Diepiriye Kuku
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'India Is Racist, And Happy About It'
A Black American's first-hand experience of footpath India: no one even wants to change
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In spite of friendship and love in private spaces, the Delhi public literally stops and stares. It is harrowing to constantly have children and adults tease, taunt, pick, poke and peer at you from the corner of their eyes, denying their own humanity as well as mine. Their aggressive, crude curiosity threatens to dominate unless disarmed by kindness, or met with equal aggression.

Once I stood gazing at the giraffes at the Lucknow Zoo only to turn and see 50-odd families gawking at me rather than the exhibit.

 
 
On a visit to the Lucknow zoo, people gawked more at me than at the exhibits.
 
 
Parents abruptly withdrew infants that inquisitively wandered towards me. I felt like an exotic African creature-cum-spectacle, stirring fear and awe. Even my attempts to beguile the public through simple greetings or smiles are often not reciprocated. Instead, the look of wonder swells as if this were all part of the act and we were all playing our parts.

Racism is never a personal experience. Racism in India is systematic and independent of the presence of foreigners of any hue. This climate permits and promotes this lawlessness and disdain for dark skin. Most Indian pop icons have light-damn-near-white skin. Several stars even promote skin-bleaching creams that promise to improve one's popularity and career success. Matrimonial ads boast of fair, v. fair and v. very fair skin alongside foreign visas and advanced university degrees. Moreover, each time I visit one of Delhi's clubhouses, I notice that I am the darkest person not wearing a work uniform. It's unfair and ugly.

Discrimination in Delhi surpasses the denial of courtesy. I have been denied visas, apartments, entrance to discos, attentiveness, kindness and the benefit of doubt. Further, the lack of neighbourliness exceeds what locals describe as normal for a capital already known for its coldness.

My partner is white and I am black, facts of which the Indian public reminds us daily. Bank associates have denied me chai, while falling over to please my white friend. Mall shop attendants have denied me attentiveness, while mobbing my partner. Who knows what else is more quietly denied?

"An African has come," a guard announced over the intercom as I showed up. Whites are afforded the luxury of their own names, but this careful attention to my presence was not new. ATM guards stand and salute my white friend, while one guard actually asked me why I had come to the bank machine as if I might have said that I was taking over his shift.

It is shocking that people wear liberalism as a sign of modernity, yet revert to ultraconservatism when actually faced with difference. Cyberbullies have threatened my life on my YouTube videos that capture local gawking and eve-teasing. I was even fired from an international school for talking about homosociality in Africa on YouTube, and addressing a class about homophobia against kids after a student called me a 'fag'.

Outside of specific anchors of discourse such as Reservations, there is no consensus that discrimination is a redeemable social ill. This is the real issue with discrimination in India: her own citizens suffer and we are only encouraged to ignore situations that make us all feel powerless. Be it the mute-witnesses seeing racial difference for the first time, kids learning racism from their folks, or the blacks and northeasterners who feel victimised by the public, few operate from a position that believes in change.

Living in India was a childhood dream that deepened with my growing understanding of India and America's unique, shared history of non-violent revolution. Yet, in most nations, the path of ending gender, race and class discrimination is unpaved. In India, this path is still rural and rocky as if this nation has not decided the road even worthy. It is a footpath that we are left to tread individually.


(The writer is a Black American PhD student at the Delhi School of Economics.)

racism
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The prejudice NRIs exhibit is more complex than what they face
Sanjay Suri
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Jul 13, 2010 06:00 PM
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Dear Diepiriye, It is indeed sad to read your experiences in India. We all face racism one way or another. Here is something that would hopefully cheer you up. The African People have given the world so much to enjoy from Sports, Music, Arts and many more areas for which you need to hold your head high and look at these racists people as small, immature and unworthy of any attention. I am an indian and look up to Africans as role models for myself and my children. Watching Usain bolt, my son is dazed, MJ dancing and singing leaves us breathless, Mohd Ali the legend, Serena Sisters the unbeatables, Long list of marathoners who are running gods and last but not the least the president of the most powerful country on this planet. So before you feel bad about your experience, you may want to think of your educational qualifications and the race that you represent and feel great about it. Don't let these silly people come in your way of your achievement. Good Luck and Best wishes.
srao
Bangalore, India
Jul 12, 2010 08:09 PM
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Hi Diepiriye,

I deeply empathize with you on your hurt feelings and sentiments (must be especially galling since you went there on idealistic grounds to study) and would like to tender my apologies for your negative experiences in India. I am sorry.

As an Indian-born that went to grad school in the US, i.e. the reverse of your situation, I have some interesting thoughts and tips to share with you, but I will have to return later to do so in a longish post or two.

Here is one quick tip that might help deal with the Indian society's rather obsessive fetish with skin complexion (many preceding generations of Indians having been enslaved by the (white) British Raj "Sahibs" may have something to do with it): keep in mind that the Hindu gods Ram and Krishna were both dark-skinned.

So, if you face an uncomfortable situation such as the one the zoo you've mentioned of people staring at you, if you are able to strike a polite conversation with the gazing idiots, you may want to approach them (with a smile on your face, of course :)) and say something like "Hey, Indian gods Ram and Krishna were dark-skinned just like me!", and see if that breaks the unfriendly ice and turns it into a friendly/friendlier rapport. If I were you, I'd try this out (perhaps in Hindi; ask your Indian friends at your grad schools how to say this well in Hindi. BTW, it's not a bad idea to pick up some conversational Hindi ASAP, if you haven't done so already) a couple of times and see how that works.

Let me know what you think about this idea. I'll be back with more thoughts.

thanks and regards,
Ken
KenRajan
Seattle, United States
Jul 12, 2010 03:32 PM
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Dear Diepiriye,

First of all, please accept a sincere apology on behalf of all right thinking and not so right thinking Indians.

What has happened with you and your observations about them are definitely something to make any Indian ashamed.

That said, I tend to agree with what Sameer and George have written below.

For various reasons Africans have had a very low level presence in India, as more and more actively interact, I am sure the level of discomfort faced by Africans will sharply come down. Perhaps the reactions faced by you could be more due to curiosity than active racism(though not at all to deny that ), even educated and well mannered Indians have a curiousity about Africans arising out of the very low level of interactions between the two.

Once again sincere apologies and wishing you all the best.
Atul Chandra
mUMBAI, INDIA
Jul 11, 2010 06:08 AM
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So what else is new in this fetid land?
If they can perpetuate and enforce caste for so many millenia, especially their despicable treatment of the "outcastes", or Dalits or Adivasis or what have you, without the slightest guilt, can anyone expect any better treatment forour brethren from the African continent?
Bodh
Springfield, United States
Jul 10, 2010 10:21 PM
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I agree with the author. Indians have lived in East Africa for four centuries, and yet, there were very few inter racial marriages between Indians and Africans. But the author should also remember that racism is an universal phenomenon. It happens in the west almost all times. Black police officers accuse the UK police of being racist because at higher level there are very few non-white officers.

Indians are just waking up to the world. It will take some years,but it will happen. Caste system, which was once accepted as a part of our lives, are now challenged by the educated indians. With education, and more exposure to the world, I am sure it will decrease.

In the mean time, we are sorry for your feelings, and we wish you well for your research.
george
london, United Kingdom
Jul 09, 2010 12:50 PM
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Its a complex mindset that discriminates, yes, but mostly for reasons of 'economic efficiency'. The average South Indian, also darker skinned, is respected as a learned, well to do person (of course, yet another stereotype!) and also a potential customer/partner etc. There's a quick mapping of visible attributes -> ethnicity -> economic/education status and the behaviour changes accordingly. The gawking has more to do with a naive/transparent curiosity about the less known/strange. Earlier, people from the north east of the country faced stares too - but now they're 'commonplace' enough to not warrant that. Its truer in rural/semi urban India and the the more 'polished' crowd manages to hide curiosity under a pretense of indifference.

At some level or the other, this happens across the world. What changes is how many people have been trained to pretend.

This leading to actual discrimination in rendering a service, or engagement, is sad and avoidable, but not true as often as the expression of the curiosity and jumping-to-stereotypes is.

Don't you assume a certain set of attributes when you, say, a guy with flowing hair, a 'rebelious tee', or painted hair, or very formal suit, or rippling muscles, etc ? Your past experiences/'knowledge' build a certain set of biases - the trick is not to let those modify your behaviour negatively.
Sameer
Bangalore, India
Jul 08, 2010 04:14 PM
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This article looks to be true.Casteism & racism have very deep roots in India,sadly it looks impossible this will be ever stop.
Bishan
Mumbai, India
Jun 22, 2010 04:04 AM
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@Nysa Dev, your line - "India is a raging mass of middle class, mediocre, filmy, nonthinking frogs in the well who cannot think beyond the color of the skin. Talk to an average Indian on a crowded street, you'll find out for yourself. "

Way to go in criticizing racism in India with your own utterly ridiculous stereotypes of Indians (and unconnected Indian IT professionals in US). Hatred of racism in India needs to be countered with education and with Indians getting better exposure to people of all races, and media highlighting common incidents of racism which otherwise would everyday happenings. But please do not use foul stereotypes of Indians and display hatred yourself.
Vijay
St. Louis, United States
Nov 29, 2009 04:53 AM
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I love this discussion! I'd like to thank Diepiriye Kuku for posting this article, Outlook India for posting it, and everyone here for chiming in their opinion.

PI, I appreciate your comments, but I find them somewhat dismissive. I too have seen a little bit of the world. I've lived for periods of time in Brazil and in India. I would be foolish to say racism and discrimination does not exist everywhere in the world. I experienced my fair share of racism growing up in an almost exclusively white community in the U.S.

I do appreciate your point that what what Kuku experienced is a natural phenomenon exhibited by all races, cultures, sexes, etc. This is true. Again, I would be foolish to deny it. What I deny is that this phenomenon is perfectly good and acceptable human behavior.

Futhermore, racism and prejudice aren't simple absolutes. They exist in varying degrees. And based on my personal experience, between the United States, Brazil, and India, India is BY FAR the MOST racist country of the three.

And simply saying, "Oh well, everybody is prejudiced." is being dismissive and accepting of a very ubiquitous and genuine social ill. And saying, "It's easy to avoid, just be nice and smile." is just a tad unsympathetic, unrealistic, and flippant.

Yup, I totally agree it's not going to change quickly. And dismissive attitudes like this are part of the reason why.
Nick
Orange, United States
Nov 28, 2009 10:57 AM
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First and foremost congrats to Outlook for publishing this article. Many readers have commented about the color issue here. While it is true that Indians are highly prejudiced by color, I don't think we should get confused between racism and color. There is need to distinguish between color and race.

Having said that, let us move on to defining what happened to Kuku. Before I start let me give full disclosure. I am an Indian and have lived in New York for 15 years, London 5 years, Africa 7 years and India till I was 30. I have travelled from East to West and North to South excluding Australia. Lived in many cultures, mingled with many races, etc. What Kuku experienced is a natural phenomenon exhibited by all races, cultures, sexes, etc. I was at a pricey fashionable restaurant in Tennessee with a few American (caucasian) collegues. During our meal I noticed an African American walked into the restaurant. Instantly the restaurant went quite and eyes were diverted to the new entrant. Due to the wealthy people in the restaurant, the "gawking"/staring was on for a fleeting moment. Again in Wyoming a similar incident happened when a Chinese gentleman walked in. I can quote at least 20 to 30 distinct occassions when I have noticed similar behaviour in places as far as China, London, Harare, Johanesburg, Santiago and others.

Almost all people love to watch and criticize others for one reason or the other. It may be color, race, hair style, dress, you name it. Is India an exception. No.

Therefore Kuku, when you travel get a collegue or local
to accompany you and you will be startled to see no one bothers to look at you. I do that all the time. I hate to say it, but I am a lighter colored brownish Indian from the south of India and never met with uncomfortable stares/gawking.

Just FYI, many black Americans in US are treated just as badly here in US by black Americans in US. Why, because the media through film portrayal shows perpetuates that image. So the bad treatment you got in Indian ATM etc are not unique to India, it happens here in US too. It is easy to avaoid it. All you have to do is be nice to the person who treats you badly or ignores you. You will see the 180 degree turn of their behavior.

India like many other writers here have said will not change in the next 100 years. It will take huge amounts of education and restructuring to make India more open to change and shedding of caste system and other bad influences. But it will happen in due course.

Have fun with your research and hope you see India in a light similar to other coutries.
Pi
New York, United States
Nov 05, 2009 02:45 AM
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I sympathize with your bad experiences. I am a second-generation Indian and there are a lot of aspects of Indian culture that make me ashamed to be of Indian descent. It's unfortunately a deeply bigoted society that's unlikely to change. It's interesting how a lot of Americans are blissfully unaware of this until they experience Indian culture firsthand.

One of the reasons it's unlikely to change is that Indians are either very content with being bigots, and/or they are in complete and total denial (like R Shrikanth).

It poses a challenge for 2nd generation Indians living abroad in diverse environments, where we must learn to get along with people our parents to teach us to hate.
Nick
Orange, United States
Oct 08, 2009 03:31 AM
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True...

And I feel sick when we lie to ourselves saying How can we be racist we have so many different cultures all living together...

remember the case of Harbhajan calling some Australian Player as monkey??... Read More

Later we all saw How childish Harbhajan could be... He went as far as slapping a fellow Team member....

I was and am sure he did call him monkey...

The case was suppressed by media hype and other reasons..
Bijay Rungta
Kolkata, India, India
Aug 22, 2009 01:16 AM
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Hats off to Outlook India for doing a cover story on racism in India. I am Indian, happily settled in America and married to a gorgeous African man. I read this article by Diepiriye S. Kuku-Siemons, and it horrified me and at the same I said, "I am not surprised, Indians are like this -- they are obsessed with skin color." India is a raging mass of middle class, mediocre, filmy, nonthinking frogs in the well who cannot think beyond the color of the skin. Talk to an average Indian on a crowded street, you'll find out for yourself. Nothing can change this mentality in India. I feel bad for Diepiriye. People like him thought India was this land rich with culture and traditions but were sorely disappointed. Question for you R Shrikanth: Are you a software worker, eating/cooking Indian food in your crummy apartment, shopping at Wal-Mart, and driving a Honda or Toyota? Before accusing Diepiriye of telling tales, tell us how you treat black people in America?
Nysa Dev
Washington DC, United States
Aug 21, 2009 10:21 PM
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@ R SHRIKANTH, HOUSTON, USA. Like you, I certainly wish that these things were untrue, but no amount of wishful thinking can erase these incidents, nor will you ever be convinced since you are obviously so skeptical. Let's call it a draw and when you make your own experiences with either equality or inequality, please share.
Diepiriye S. Kuku-Siemons
New Delhi, India
Jul 12, 2009 12:00 AM
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First of all you have to accept you are black skin person.And in India the people are having black or dark skin are not welcome.Our sociey is devided in many factors and one of the important
thing is colour as well as kast.If you can see two things and they are north and the south.The northen people think them self Aryan and the people from south they are known as Dravid.

Now as you mentain you are a PHD so you have to accept facts about our society.India is having round about 24 states each state is having different language,food the people climate and the cultural.i am freelance video actor,producer,director and videographer i made many travel,nature and wildlife video films.I traveled from northe,southeast and west.One thing you have to accept you are a dark skin person,and Indians love fair skin or to marry a beautiful lady with very complex.Its a fact we cant change our society.And still their are two ways for you to intigrate your self in India .One is find a place in south india,like Madras,Kerala,Andra Pradish,or Karnatak state,where you will not be discraimanate by local people,but one thing you have to learn their languages other wise still you will be discreimanate.Even you can make plastic sergari on your face if you like to stay in northan india.One thing you have to accept it and that is aney were in the Wrold the nativies never welcome the outsiders.
dilipkumar.chitnis
mumbai, India
Jul 12, 2009 12:00 AM
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India is without a doubt one of the most racist countries in the world. It makes me feel embarrassed to be an Indian. A 2008 Pew study demonstrated that Indians top the list of countries where the people considered themselves and their culture superior. As a dark skinned Indian, I can honestly say that I have faced more prejudice in Indian than in America. I hope more blacks will write about their racist experiences in India. Shame is the only way to force the government to educate the people about race-relations and equality.
test
test, American Samoa
Jul 06, 2009 12:00 AM
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The preoccupation to a person's skin color is so well engrained in India, that I feel that a Dermatonometer (derma-tone-meter)could sell well there. It could quickly determine the shade of whiteness of a person's skin, without any invasive procedures. It could be small and pocket sized and similar to a light meter the photographers use. It would eliminate error between milk white, light chocolate, kaki, dark chocolate, dark roast and coal black. This gadget would be essential for matchmakers and marriage brokers in India. I expect this gadget will be very enthusiastically promoted by the makers of skin whitening creams-soaps in India.
It would help settle the dowry amount by accurately providing one of the important factors in this transaction. Let us all hope, that the hope of a nation of 1.3 billion people of 'wheatish complexion' will be achieved in the future!
After reading the personal account of Mr. Diepiriye Kuku, I suspect that another African American, President Obama can expect a cold shoulder, when and if he visits India.
The concept of rainbow nation seems to be lost in India.
W J D
William John Daniel
Bendigo, Australia
Jul 06, 2009 12:00 AM
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William Daniel, that's insane. Indians, if they are obsessed with anything, are obsessed with education, money and security. There may be, in certain circles, an aesthetic preference for lighter, as opposed to darker, complexion. However, even that is modified by personality, features( sharper as opposed to blunter) figure/physiquw and education/literacy. You obviously haven't seen the total reality, and have selected a few choice observations and comments to shape your perception.
Varun Shekhar
Toronto, CANADA
Jul 02, 2009 12:00 AM
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Hi Diepiriye,
If that rocky path ever get smooth or even worthy of walk, your experiences will have a contribution in that. One day of course it will be changed because India is a country full of lives.
Afrin
Dhaka, Bangladesh
Jul 01, 2009 12:00 AM
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This article is not all credible. While I can understand his anger at being gawked at the zoo (one of the few likely to be true incidents), many of the other things he has described here are very unlikely. For eg. his claim that he received death threats over Youtube videos. Ot that he has been denied service.

There is soemthing seriously missing in this and the editors should have taken care to verify some of these claims.
R Shrikanth
Houston, USA
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