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Terror In Ahmedabad
Blast After Blast...
Terror strikes Ahmedabad, a day after Bangalore. At least 29 dead and over 88 injured in 17 serial blasts. 'Indian Mujahideen' claim responsibility, warning more such attacks
Terror In India
Some of the recent terror attacks in India
Terror In India
As in the case of Jaipur and UP blasts, an email from 'Indian Mujahideen' claims responsibility for the serial blasts.
Opinion
The blasts in Bangalore and Ahmedabad mark a further step in the ISI-sponsored Indianisation of the jihad. The Indianised jihad is presently targeted against the BJP, but it could turn against the US and Israeli presence in India in due course.
B. Raman
A day after the serial blasts in Bangalore, it was the turn of Ahmedabad, in another BJP-ruled state, to confront terror. As many as 16 (or 17, going by some reports) coordinated and well-synchronised serial blasts ripped across the city on July 26, leaving at least 29 killed and 88 injured.

The synchronised "low-intensity" explosions rocked 14 crowded areas including market places in the Gujarat capital in a space of 70 minutes between 1830 hrs IST and 1940 hrs IST after the first blast hit Maninagar at 6.45 pm.

As per the police reports, 35 injured persons were rushed to Vadilal Sarabhai hospital while 25 injured were receiving treatment in LG hospital. Some injured were also in the Civil hospital.

Indian Mujahideen

As in the case of Jaipur blasts, in this case too, an email from the self-styled Indian Mujahideen has reportedly claimed responsibility for the serial blasts.

The email, claiming responsibility for the attacks to various television channels and media houses came minutes before the blasts, and was sent from a new email address -- alarbi_gujarat@yahoo.com -- which was created this afternoon, as per sources in the security establishment.

The email, sent in the name of Indian Mujahideen, which is believed to be a shadow amalgam group of banned SIMI cadres and Pakistan-based Lashker-e-Taiba, has also warned of more attacks.

Blast After Blast

But back to the horrific incidents. The first blast was reported from Maninagar, the constituency of Chief Minister Narendra Modi. According to initial reports the bomb was planted on a bicycle. Maninagar saw as many as three blasts in all. The second blast was inside the LG Hospital premises below a red-coloured car, which caught fire. And the third was in Vadilal Sarabhai Hospital.

Sarkhej witnessed two blasts. The first one in a state transport CNG bus and the second targetting a movie hall, Sangam theatre.

Bapunagar also witnessed two blasts: one outside the railway station and the other one inside a bus.

In addition to these two, the blast that followed were at Isanpur, Narol circle, Bapunagar, Hatkeshwar, Sarangpur bridge, Odhav, Sardar Patel market, Civil hospital, Juhapura, Ambur tower building, Raipur and Gowribhadi.

Targeting Hospitals

Two explosions occurred in the premises of the Civil and the LG hospital in the second cycle of the blasts, after a short pause when 14 bombs went off in the space of 60 minutes in a sychronised attack.

A doctor at Ahmedabad Civil hospital said one blast occurred near the trauma centre, exacerbating the already tense situation. "This blast alone killed nearly 15 people and injured around 40," he said. 

Some reports said four city hospitals were targetted.

Terror Tactics

While the blasts were of low-intensity -- same as in Bangalore the day before -- busy, crowded markets and some of the communally sensitive areas -- primarily in eastern part of Ahmedabad, which are upper middle class dominated residential areas -- seem to have been chosen. Clearly, the intent was to create maximum panic and not just to cause heavy casualties.

The bombs placed in tiffin boxes were strapped on to bicycles, eerily similar to the Jaipur blasts on May 13 in which 65 persons had died. Some of the blast sites were in sensitive areas in the old city but the situation was peaceful as the night wore on.

Mangled remains of a bus, cycles, motorcycles and an autorickshaw were seen at the blast sites which was splattered with blood and panic spread as people ran for their lives. Police said at least 20 persons were killed as confirmations of deaths poured in from Vadilal Sarabhai, Civil and LG hospitals.

Going by the experience of Bangalore, the authorities are not taking any chances, as live bombs were found in Bangalore even a full day after the eight serial blasts.

Reactions

Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and President Pratibha Patil condemned the serial blasts and appealed for calm. While Chief Minister Narendra Modi too condemned the blasts and appealed for calm, his party leader and MP from Gandhinagar L K Advani quickly moved in to politicise the blasts, blaming the centre and the lack of tough anti-terror laws for the rise in terror activities. He did not, however, draw any conclusions about two BJP-ruled states -- Gujarat and Karnataka -- being specifically targeted.

A shocked Modi said the Ahmedabad blasts was a "war against India" and a handiwork of terror groups. Declaring there should be one voice against terrorism, Modi also said there is a "mastermind group and a mastermind country" behind the blasts. The people behind the attack will be "hounded out," said Modi, who also spoke to Prime Minister Manmohan Singh.

A common feature seen at the blast sites was use of blue ballbearings in the explosions.

Home Secretary Madhukar Gupta said in New Delhi that National Security Guards (NSG) personnel were being rushed to Ahmedabad where Rapid Action Force(RAF) personnel were already deployed to restore calm in the blast-hit areas some of which are highly sensitive.

Union home minister Shivraj Patil has convened a high level meeting on July 27 to review the security situation throughout the country.

with inputs from PTI

Terror In India
Some of the recent terror attacks in India
Terror In India
As in the case of Jaipur and UP blasts, an email from 'Indian Mujahideen' claims responsibility for the serial blasts.
Opinion
The blasts in Bangalore and Ahmedabad mark a further step in the ISI-sponsored Indianisation of the jihad. The Indianised jihad is presently targeted against the BJP, but it could turn against the US and Israeli presence in India in due course.
B. Raman
 
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Aug 01, 2008 12:00 AM
87
These are the ways of the seculars. They are ready to sell out the country in the interest of their vote banks and power. It is left to the "communal" and "fascists" elements to oppose such pernicious practices, even at the risk of being labeled so.

‘Infiltrators to kingmakers’: Assam has a problem

http://www.indianexpress.com/story/343052.html


From the article

"But even after the Accord, nothing significant happened as the Centre chose to retain the Illegal Migrants (Determination by Tribunals) Act of 1983, which was always been seen as a piece of legislation which protected infiltrators instead of weeding them out.

The Congress, which has always been accused of protecting the migrants, has remained in denial mode as far as the influx is concerned. But there have been times when leaders of the same party did describe the flow of migrants as a big problem. Most significant was a statement made by former chief minister Hiteswar Saikia, who, in August 1994, told the Assembly that there were 30 lakh Bangladeshis in Assam. Saikia, however, retracted his statement within a couple of days after the Jamiat Ulema-e-Hind threatened to pull down his government."

One thing that the article does not state is that after the SC struck down IMDT, the UPA govt at the center amended the Foreigner's act to essentially make the SC order meaningless. Such are the ways of the seculars.

Another article in the Express on the topic
A serious threat: Pak national contested Assembly polls in ’96


http://www.indianexpress.com/story/343062.html


This is what happens when anti-nationals like Jyoti Basu are left in charge too long.
Al Bundy
San Francisco, United States
Jul 30, 2008 12:00 AM
86
"You just don't have the data to make the point that you want to make."

And of course you have all the data to prove that shakhas preach hate.
Kiran Bagachi
mumbai, India
Jul 30, 2008 12:00 AM
85
>> Madarsaa are the epitome of communal harmony. Kabeel and Shafeel got the jehadi mentality and bomb training from the medical and engineering college they were studying in.

You just don't have the data to make the point that you want to make.

Anwar Patel
Dallas Tx, United States
Jul 30, 2008 12:00 AM
84
"As if the madrasa backgrounds of the terrorists in Bangalore and Ahmedabad have been established!"

Of course not. Is there a connection? Nah! Madarsaa are the epitome of communal harmony. Kabeel and Shafeel got the jehadi mentality and bomb training from the medical and engineering college they were studying in.
Kiran Bagachi
mumbai, India
Jul 29, 2008 12:00 AM
83


How long the Super Power in making will be just warming its arms without firing????

Being bespectacled after blinded is not gonna get you those eyes back....
Sasi KC
Reston, United States
Jul 29, 2008 12:00 AM
82
>> Just compare the number of terrorist activities done by the 'tiny' minority of Muslim kids attending madrasas with that of 'many' who attend the hate-mongering and lies-teching shakhas.

As if the madrasa backgrounds of the terrorists in Bangalore and Ahmedabad have been established!
Anwar Patel
Dallas Tx, United States
Jul 29, 2008 12:00 AM
81
"Only a tiny minority of Muslim kids attend madrasas. A lot more hate and lies are taught in shakhas than in madrasas."

Yeah. Just compare the number of terrorist activities done by the 'tiny' minority of Muslim kids attending madrasas with that of 'many' who attend the hate-mongering and lies-teching shakhas!!

It will tell you exactly how much more deadlier a shakha is to a madarsaa!!
Kiran Bagachi
mumbai, India
Jul 29, 2008 12:00 AM
80
AL BUNDY
SAN FRANCISCO UNITED STATES
03:18:52AM (IST)

In full agreement with your posting as referred above.
v.seshadri
chennai, india
Jul 29, 2008 12:00 AM
79
Ashok,

>> Do you really want a 'normal' dialogue?

I have given up on you. Just look at your bigotic posts written not just to me, but to everyone else!

Anwar Patel
Dallas Tx, United States
Jul 29, 2008 12:00 AM
78
Ashok,

>> I have never used the word 'erased'.
All I have said was that it has prevented the terrorist acts so far.

The point I made still remains.
Anwar Patel
Dallas Tx, United States
Jul 29, 2008 12:00 AM
77
Ashok,

>> Instead of facing this grim reality, you say 'you are regaled'?

How hate literature written by anti-Jewish, anti-Black or anti-Muslim bigots is so much alike has a kind of sick humor in it.
Anwar Patel
Dallas Tx, United States
Jul 29, 2008 12:00 AM
76
The very nature of terrorist activity requires that those providing support to the terrorists have to be as few in number as possible, and the work has to be done under total secrecy. This is just common sense.

That is your common sense. OTOH, recruiting five terrorists also requires approaching fifty. But you purposely continue to ignore that!
Nikhil Malhotra
Nashville, United States
Jul 29, 2008 12:00 AM
75
>> how the terrorists were only a handful and worked in secrecy?

The very nature of terrorist activity requires that those providing support to the terrorists have to be as few in number as possible, and the work has to be done under total secrecy. This is just common sense.

>> If you uneqivocally ( without usual excuses) have any comment I will not attempt to pin you down.

Since you did not follow the thread, I shall ignore this paragraph.

>> Given your advise to people on what to drink, when to drink, when to sleep, what to read, which doctor to see, I am hardly a match.

That is tongue-in-cheek advice, and you should know it.

>> I agree some of your online adversaries maul you into a pulp.

They may think so, and you of course will agree!

>> Please show some appreciation for people who have actually lost lives to Islamic terrorism.

I don't need you to tell me that. Follow threads from the beginning. Yes, now I am giving advice!

>> The chief hate-perpetrator being you in this case!

That shows your naivete.
Anwar Patel
Dallas Tx, United States
Jul 29, 2008 12:00 AM
74
"Why do I have to meet conditions in order to be taken seriously? "

Have you considered how ridiculous was your conjecture (yes it is only a conecture) about how the terrorists were only a handful and worked in secrecy? And worse it falls along the same lines of "defending" just for the sake of defending, no mind to it at all.

"Apart from the fact that even if I admit to connivance (without any evidence to support such a connivance), the only answer I would receive is a sarcastic one such as "He is just saying it", exactly the kind of response I got after my very first post on the Bangalore blast."

If you uneqivocally ( without usual excuses) have any comment I will not attempt to pin you down. Most commentators on Gujarat have been Hindus. You seem to quote a certain Ram Punyani; a Hindu. He is unequivocal in his condemnation of Hindus - all Hindus. Follow the same vigor in your condemnation, I will support you. That is the reason, why Hindu fundamentalism has not spread as rapidly as it should have, even given the grave provocations by Islamic butchers. Instead you sugar coat your condemnations.

Yes I do emphasize, there is a lot by Muslim communities.

"You seem to be very free with your advice, "

Thanks for the compliment, but I could hardly match your vigor. Given your advise to people on what to drink, when to drink, when to sleep, what to read, which doctor to see, I am hardly a match.

"but show insufficient appreciation of the malignancy of the anti-Muslim animus in the posts of Ashok, Bodepudi, Bagai et al that I am dealing with."

I agree some of your online adversaries maul you into a pulp. But they do not blow up a whole load of people. Please show some appreciation for people who have actually lost lives to Islamic terrorism. If you are asking for my defense of you, I'd be more than happy - give me a sign that it will be worthwhile. No; declaring that something is a "myth" is not a sign. Most people refrain that terrorist are aided and abetted in Muslim neighborhoods. The sooner you see this sign and acknowledge, the sooner you will get aid. It all begins with intrsopection, show the smallest sign of that!

"Which they should be, if they have anything to offer, which is zilch for over 99% of the population."

That is the balderdash, you dish. Most people do not believe that.

"But my comment, "Instead Muslims are required to feel ashamed and apologetic!" referred to the burdens imposed, both spoken and unspoken, on the larger commnity as well as in this forum."

Protecting the nation is not a burden. It should be a duty happily performed.

"Balderdash! I do not believe in using kid gloves while dealing with the hate perpetrators."

The chief hate-perpetrator being you in this case! Like I have mentioned elsewhere, soft Jihadis are far more dangerous than open gun-totting ones.
Nikhil Malhotra
Nashville, United States
Jul 29, 2008 12:00 AM
73
faruki

i accept that our comments display hate, contempt
against islam and muslims. this is unlikely to change.Maybe a few of us can stop. I will try.

Moreover i think that is silly of us to keep on repeating our selves. it serves no purpose then to enrage you, and you fall for it every time.

You can help yourself by abstaining from your comments which seem to provoke many of us.

I think that the communal division is here to stay- After all 60 years have gone by, and whilst
the nonmuslims are doing well in every sector, you guys are lagging behind. One more reason
to look down on you.

But whatever happens in India, we in this forum
should stop the mutual insults and abuse.

The pity is that every now and then some thing happens, and all hell breaks loose.

It is difficult to live in a war zone, and avoid getting involved. Maybe Outlook should stop writeing about Islam, muslims, terrorism,Pakistan
and other sensitive issues.

Time for tea Jeeves.

No drinks tonight.
lalitmb
kalundborg, Denmark
Jul 29, 2008 12:00 AM
72
>> This is precisely what is "Islamic" reaction.

Balderdash! I do not believe in using kid gloves while dealing with the hate perpetrators.
Anwar Patel
Dallas Tx, United States
Jul 29, 2008 12:00 AM
71
>> All they have been asked is to be is proactive in apprehending the real Jihadi ....

Which they should be, if they have anything to offer, which is zilch for over 99% of the population. No proof has been offered of any concrete evidence of conspiracy of silence. It is all speculation. But my comment, "Instead Muslims are required to feel ashamed and apologetic!" referred to the burdens imposed, both spoken and unspoken, on the larger commnity as well as in this forum.
Anwar Patel
Dallas Tx, United States
Jul 29, 2008 12:00 AM
70
>> If grotesque expressions are hard to manage, imagine bomb blasts!

Aren't bomb blasts occasions for us to react jointly to an atrocity, rather than an occasion to put a good number of us on the defensive?

>> If you display even a modicum of owning responsibility - for example, yes there must be the connivance of a fair amount of common muslims, people might take you a little seriously.

Why do I have to meet conditions in order to be taken seriously? Apart from the fact that even if I admit to connivance (without any evidence to support such a connivance), the only answer I would receive is a sarcastic one such as "He is just saying it", exactly the kind of response I got after my very first post on the Bangalore blast.

You seem to be very free with your advice, but show insufficient appreciation of the malignancy of the anti-Muslim animus in the posts of Ashok, Bodepudi, Bagai et al that I am dealing with.
Anwar Patel
Dallas Tx, United States
Jul 29, 2008 12:00 AM
69
>> Actually, they are far more common in the Quran - the fountainhead of all incendiary prose!

A quote from the anti-Muslim hate sites you seem to frequent.
Anwar Patel
Dallas Tx, United States
Jul 29, 2008 12:00 AM
68
"I feel enraged and anguished. Bigots like you may want to make me feel defensive. This just gives me a chance to throw some choice epithets you way."

This is precisely what is "Islamic" reaction. I think Indians have done an admirable job in going through fire and keeping their balance and tolerance. You are a soft Jihadi in a virtual world facing reaction to your own obnoxious words. I can only imagine if you were the real Jihadi!
Nikhil Malhotra
Nashville, United States
Jul 28, 2008 12:00 AM
67
faruki

i dont wish to make fun of poor muslims. they are
in a sad situation, suffering from poverty and
slaves to a dogmatic and fanatic religion.

but unfortunately the scenes from the ghetto are
real. you must have surely seen it yourself.

well educated muslims should live in such places and work as good samaritans.
lalitmb
kalundborg, Denmark
Jul 28, 2008 12:00 AM
66
"Instead Muslims are required to feel ashamed and apologetic!"

Nonsense. All they have been asked is to be is proactive in apprehending the real Jihadi scumbags. If at all, given the total absence of even a single instance of local Muslims reporting suspicious behavior, it seems they might be feel apologetic to their quam in performing this duty towards the nation!
Nikhil Malhotra
Nashville, United States
Jul 28, 2008 12:00 AM
65
"That much anger is not manageable by any human mind, with the result that we keep encountering deranged and grotesque expressions from people like yourself, Bodepudi and Bagai. Everything then become a caricature and normal dialogue becomes an impossibility."

Again the victim is to be blamed. If grotesque expressions are hard to manage, imagine bomb blasts! If you display even a modicum of owning responsibility - for example, yes there must be the connivance of a fair amount of common muslims, people might take you a little seriously. Instead you went ahead and declare that these bombers are some "mythical" figures operating in complete secrecy like the unabomber!

It is your incessant and obnoxious attempt to triumph sugar over diabetes that makes disease difficult to control.
Nikhil Malhotra
Nashville, United States
Jul 28, 2008 12:00 AM
64
"Diatribes written in this vein are very common in the writings of Hitler "

Actually, they are far more common in the Quran - the fountainhead of all incendiary prose!
Nikhil Malhotra
Nashville, United States
Jul 28, 2008 12:00 AM
63
Ashok,

>> You go to any Muslim-dominated area and what you see? .....

Diatribes written in this vein are very common in the writings of Hitler about the Jews and the writings of American racists about the Blacks. We have been regaled with similar such stupid accounts by that other idiot in this forum, quite a match for yourself, Lalit bagai.
Anwar Patel
Dallas Tx, United States
Jul 28, 2008 12:00 AM
62
Ashok,

>> So, what u r saying is that you are making all possible efforts in this direction but it is the US intelligece that is not allowing you to succeed?

I am saying that your earlier argument that Bush and Modi have successfully erased any possiblity of further attempts at terrorism is wrong, and is as stupid and mindless as any of your other silly arguments.
Anwar Patel
Dallas Tx, United States
Jul 28, 2008 12:00 AM
61
Ashok,

>> So, what the secular, democratic, moderate and peaceful Muslims like Anwar are saying is simply that..... >> Remember again, Muslims have been discriminated against, their rights have been trampled upon and they have the justification to express their anguish, pain and prejudices felt for last 1,400 years to retaliate in any which way they can. Right, Anwar?

After terrorist attacks, Muslims do not have a right to feel anger at the terrorists and sadness for the lost lives which everyone else feels. Instead Muslims are required to feel ashamed and apologetic! I refuse to go by that rule. I feel enraged and anguished. Bigots like you may want to make me feel defensive. This just gives me a chance to throw some choice epithets you way.

You do not only use such occasions to feel angry at ALL Muslims (the despicable "collective guilt" hypothesis underlying ugly anti-semitism), you add to that anger your accumulated anger at Ghori, Ghaznavi, Aurangzeb and Jinnah! That much anger is not manageable by any human mind, with the result that we keep encountering deranged and grotesque expressions from people like yourself, Bodepudi and Bagai. Everything then become a caricature and normal dialogue becomes an impossibility.
Anwar Patel
Dallas Tx, United States
Jul 28, 2008 12:00 AM
60
ashok

faruki says that you lack comprehension ability.
this has to be amazeing cheek.

he reads anti islam, anti muslim comments about 50 times a day. he reads new york times, watches cnn and other tv channels. he hears comments from
a huge number of antiislamic thinkers, writers,
and he reamins the most close minded buffoon in
the usa. nothing however true which is adverse to
his beliefs makes an impression on him.

he is the personification of a religious bigot.he could give mullahs a lesson on fanaticism.

but he believes he is a liberal, because he reads the new york times,is a member of cair,
and speaks against the neocons, the zionists and
the parivar.

all of these are reactions to the presence of
millions of muslim fanatics, in muslim and especially nonmuslim country.

obviously he hates these organisations, because they deal with muslims the way they deserve.

however lucky him. he abuses the americans whilst
he lives safely in their country, and is sympathatic towards their enemies.

its not just the muslims who are dumb. so are
their opponents for treating them decently, when they should use the harshest of measures.

muslims of this generation and the next few generations are in for a rough time.
lalitmb
kalundborg, Denmark
Jul 28, 2008 12:00 AM
59
Another "loose cannon" ..

"The Muslim community's duty does not stop with passing resolutions. It is evident that such meticulously carried out blasts in such a large number in so many localities in so many states at such short intervals could not have taken place without the complicity and collusion of some members of the community.

Preparations must have gone on for many days, if not weeks, for procuring the explosive material with devices like timers, choosing locations, laying down the modalities and so on. The awareness of all these activities must surely have extended to persons beyond the actual perpetrators.

In this light, the Muslim community cannot shirk the responsibility of maintaining a constant vigil against any sign of suspicious activities and movements coming to its attention and promptly intimating the authorities."


http://www.rediff.com/news/2008/jul/28ahd14.htm


B S Raghavan also must be a bigoted sanghi, hate pracharak and a shakha doctorate. Lets wait for the resident quack to certify Raghavan as well.
lookout bug me not
mumbai, India
Jul 28, 2008 12:00 AM
58
faruki

despite your vile abuse you are a pariah in usa and in india.

thats why you are dependent on abuse and insults
to get over your frustration.will not work.
you are doomed in your present life. and you can keep on dreaming about the nonexistent paradise
promised to you.

if it exists it will be full to the brim of skull capped bearded muslims, burqa clad women,
and prayers 6 times a day. the language will be arabic. the favourite food will be boiled camel meat, with dates as desert.

i doubt that you will be allowed to read outlook there. only the milli gazette.

may you live a million years there .

thank god. free at last. thank god to be free from a guy like you.
lalitmb
kalundborg, Denmark
Jul 28, 2008 12:00 AM
57
Ashok,

>> All they believe is that soon India would be Islamised by 1000 ...

I would not be surprised if they are that stupid, just as I am not surprised by your being so stupid.
Anwar Patel
Dallas Tx, United States
Jul 28, 2008 12:00 AM
56
Ashok,

>> Time for you to get up and start defending the 'religion of peace and brotherhood'...

Time for me to show up bigots like you, Bodepudi and Bagai for the liars and morons that you are.
Anwar Patel
Dallas Tx, United States
Jul 28, 2008 12:00 AM
55
Ashok,

>> with sleeper cells like you, USA shouldn't and can't be too sure of its next attack.

There seems to be some problem with your comprehension ability. United states has not been attacked since 9/11 because of its excellent intelligence gathering and monitoring efforts, and not because of absence of efforts on the part of the terrorists. Morons like you learn some fancy phrase like "sleeper cells", and keep using it without any relevance, as if it would make you look smart just to use it.
Anwar Patel
Dallas Tx, United States
Jul 28, 2008 12:00 AM
54
Ashok,

>> since Muslims, the apostle of peace and harmony, are always innocent...

The worst Hindu offenders from the post-Godhra riots and the Bombay riots are still walking free, whereas Muslim offenders from the same riots are already serving long sentences.
Anwar Patel
Dallas Tx, United States
Jul 28, 2008 12:00 AM
53
Hindus must look at the discrimination that makes it difficult for Muslims to be part of the mainstream.

Muslims must look at why so many of their fellow muslims turn to violence compared to say, the dalits, who are discriminated against just as badly.
vijay
Chennai, India
Jul 28, 2008 12:00 AM
52
Lalit Bagai,

>> can you say with pride in america that you are a muslim.

Of course. Now go to bed. Please!
Anwar Patel
Dallas Tx, United States
Jul 28, 2008 12:00 AM
51
faruki

can you say with pride in america that you are a muslim.

and what do americans say to you.

if the results are good, maybe more muslims should settle down with you.

in case of problems cair will look after them.
right o.

maybe we hindus are not as tolerant.and maybe we
have lived too long with you guys.
lalitmb
kalundborg, Denmark
Jul 28, 2008 12:00 AM
50
>> That is the whole problem. Terrorists must be killed-not tried in courts.

Yes, but it is not adequate. A lot of terrorists are not scared to die. Most would prefer to get away, but wouldn't mind dying, and some would even prefer it.

It is important those the forces behind the terrorists are targeted. These are the people who ARE scared of death or even harm to themselves or their resources. Such supporters, financers, people who provide training, local support etc. need to be targeted and eliminated.

Finally, as tough as it is for a democratic govt to implement, relatives of terrorists need to be targeted. Terrorists might not care for their own lives, but do care for that of their parents, friends, siblings, their children etc. They shall be much more circumspect, if they realize that their relatives may be harmed for their acts.

Further, right now, if a man/woman realizes that his/her brother is drifting towards extremism or terrorism, they might try to talk him out of it. If however, they feel that his stupid acts might result in retribution being visited on them or their children, they might do more than talk. They might actually inform the authorities.

At the height of Punjab extremism, there were reports of the Punjab police indulging in such acts to eliminate the kidnapping industry. Once they identified the terrorists involved in a kidnapping, they used to themselves abduct the relatives of these kidnappers, and this strategy proved extremely successful. We need to extend this principle to the current terrorist groups too.
Al Bundy
San Francisco, United States
Jul 27, 2008 12:00 AM
49
Varun,

>> you seem to be more concerned about the image of Moslems...

Scapegoating and villification of a whole community is certainly not just an image problem.
Anwar Patel
Dallas Tx, United States
Jul 27, 2008 12:00 AM
48
Ashok,

>> you have only one grouse against POTA -- that it is used against Muslims.

Since innocent Muslims are the only victims of draconian dragnets, it must seem perfectly alright to you!
Anwar Patel
Dallas Tx, United States
Jul 27, 2008 12:00 AM
47
>> are more concerned about India's response to terrorism, than the terrorism itself

No. The concern is terrorism itself. The strategy however, includes making sure that there is fairness/truth/justice so that the radicals will not be able to win over the normal religious law-abiding muslims. When a normal law-abiding muslim sees that Govt. is fair/just and genuinely interested in the welfare, he will side with the govt. against the trouble makers. This is vitally important. Terrorism should not be seen as a mere law and order problem. At the core, it is a ideological battle which thrives on winning over ordinary law-abiding religious muslims by showing the atrocities, injustice, attacks etc specifically directed against islam/muslims (the RSS/VHP would know this better, as they also do exactly the same to win over the otherwise peaceful/religious/tolerant).

There is indeed merit in an argument for special laws to deal with terrorism (and they have been enacted by both BJP and Congress in the past), but carefully in a manner that will not be seen as a weapon for deliberate misuse against innocents. TADA/POTA have received such widespread reputation of deliberate communal misuse against innocents. So, new/different strategies required. Thoughtlessly reinstating TADA/POTA will only add more ammunition for more terrorist recruitments.
Kumar
Bangalore, India
Jul 27, 2008 12:00 AM
46
Ashok,

>> Look at USA. After 9/11, they are shit scared to indulge in any such activities ....

You said the same thing about post-Godhra Gujarat, and see what happened yesterday! Such shallow analyses are misleading and self-deceptive. Terrorists have plotted to hit the USA since 9/11, but were stopped because of excellent intelligence gathering.
Anwar Patel
Dallas Tx, United States
Jul 27, 2008 12:00 AM
45
Akash/Bodepudi,

>> Gandhi's pigeons coming home to roost.

It must be morning in Chicago. Time to start your daily hate mail!
Anwar Patel
Dallas Tx, United States
Jul 27, 2008 12:00 AM
44
Vinod,

>> If appeasement is not the reason for the terrorists to get so emboldened ....

Were they not emboldened enough during the BJP rule to attack the Parliament, and to hijack a plane in order to get three of the worst terrorists released?
Anwar Patel
Dallas Tx, United States
Jul 27, 2008 12:00 AM
43
Ashok, people like Kumar ( and definitely Bidwai, Arundhati Roy et al )probably think that POTA and TADA are more harmful and dangerous and inhuman, than the actual terrorists and the terrorist bombs! Their philosophy is that POTA and TADA will only succeed in 'creating more terrorists', like certain lawyers in Lucknow who refused to defend some accused terrorists, and were hence understandably attacked for their refusal. These people are more concerned about India's response to terrorism,than the terrorism itself; the corollary is that if only India were more soft on terror( by not having these laws at all) the terror will go away or will become drastically reduced! It doesn't take a genius to see how idiotic this position is.
Varun Shekhar
Toronto, CANADA
Jul 27, 2008 12:00 AM
42
Anwar Patel, you seem to be more concerned about the image of Moslems and the use of terrorist incidents(like Jaipur, Bangalore, Ahmedabad) by some Hindus in India to create further 'divisions'. Aren't we far beyond all that now? In the next few days and weeks, we are going to see some real vomit and garbage about these terrorist attacks by the self proclaimed secular progressives. "Regrettable as the bombings are, there is an underlying cause: Moslem alienation and resentment stemming from Babri Masjid and Gujarat" Plug your nose and close your eyes in the days ahead.
Varun Shekhar
Toronto, CANADA
Jul 27, 2008 12:00 AM
41
"'The strategic considerations in case of Afzal Guru are much more.'"

Will giving him Bharat Ratna help?
Ganesan
Nj, USA
Jul 27, 2008 12:00 AM
40
'The strategic considerations in case of Afzal Guru are much more.'

Eh there are benifits in not hanging a Muslim who attacked the Parliament of India ?? Kindly note the extent of degradation the supporters of an killer can sunk. !
Khushi Ram
ambala cantt, India
Jul 27, 2008 12:00 AM
39
>> This is a country which refuses to hang a human filth like Afsal Guru because of secularism

No one ever said that the delay in hanging of Afzal Guru has anything to do with 'secularism'. Many have pointed out the loop holes in the trial/judgment, he being made a scape goat etc and the court itself noted the lack of direct evidence, fabrication of evidence by police etc. But even that is not the issue. There is a clemency petition that is put forward and it takes time (as it has in the past like in case of Rajiv Gandhi assassination etc). Moreover, there is a view expressed by several experts that hanging of Afzal Guru is going to be counter productive and it will be a ammunition for militants to create more trouble and will be used in a big way to create more new recruits (like how hanging of Maqbool Butt made him a hero/legend). So, a strategic delay by the successive Presidents cannot be ruled out too. The BJP has released terrorists in exchange for a few passengers. The strategic considerations in case of Afzal Guru are much more. It is easy to talk being in opposition and Mr. Advani knows it well.
Kumar
Bangalore, India
Jul 27, 2008 12:00 AM
38
"No one has any problem with tough measures against terrorists"

This is standard liberal drivel. Of course we oppose terrorism. Of course we are for tough measures. These sentences will be followed by a series of "buts". And if you take the statements in total, it essentially will mean "dont do anything".

This is a country which refuses to hang a human filth like Afsal Guru because of secularism. This is a country which gave spa treatment to Madani in Coimbatore prison. This is a country in which a state legislature(Kerala) passed a resolution demanding the release of a terrorist like Madani.

"We are for tough measures". My Foot!
Ganesan
Nj, USA
Jul 27, 2008 12:00 AM
37
>> Muslim appeasement is at the heart of UPA's policy (or lack of it) towards terrorism. Advani has done a correct thing by calling spade a spade. Congress always has an eye on Muslim vote bank, that is why it is refusing to take tough measures against terrorists and refusing to hang Afzal.

The UPA policy is just that every group/section which needs upliftment should be given. You call that appeasement, but that is a policy of a welfare state which takes care of all its citizens. No one has any problem with tough measures against terrorists, but there are more strategic things to be considered in the war which is more an ideological battle as it is a law/order issue. In terms of strategy, govt. would want the normal law-abiding religious/traditional musmlims to be on the side of the govt. and not against it. The average law-abiding muslim should not be allowed to fall prey to the terrorist rhetoric on things like Babri Masjid demolition, Gujarat riots, unfair treatment of innocent muslims etc. The govt. should be tough on law-breakers and be supportive of law-abiders.
Kumar
Bangalore, India
Jul 27, 2008 12:00 AM
36
>>I don't know where are those NGOs protecting those terrorists and their verdicts in the name of human rights.... --Sasi KC

Most of these NGOs are foreign funded and fronts for fifth columnist commies. Their only job is to speak-up for terrorists and traitors. The lives of common Indians (read as Hindus) mean zilch to them.
J
Bangalore, India
Jul 27, 2008 12:00 AM
35
>> It is ridiculous to blame the absence of anti-terrorist law like POTA.

Mr. Advani knows very well that there has been too much misuse of POTA due to which there is a wide spread belief that many too innocent muslims have become victims of what a handful of radicals/hardliners are doing. Worse still, the terrorists raise the issues that most people identify with – like babri masjid demolition, Gujarat riots, innocent muslims languishing in jails, inaction against hindu extremists etc. The terrorists are making their recruitments from the normal law-abiding religious muslims by repeatedly pointing out these, driving more and more traditional/religious law-abiding muslims to the radical camp. Terrorism is much more an ideological problem as it is a law/order problem. If the terrorists win the ideological war, there is no way terrorism can be contained. In the battle, we need the normal traditional/religious law-abiding muslims on the side of the law and against the radicals. This will happen if there is a governmental commitment to freedom of religion, fair treatment/justice, upliftment/empowerment where required etc.
Kumar
Bangalore, India
Jul 27, 2008 12:00 AM
34
Kumar,

>>Mr Advani and Co. who are bringing petty politics into the tragedies by blaming muslim appeasement etc as responsible and so on.

Muslim appeasement is at the heart of UPA's policy (or lack of it) towards terrorism. Advani has done a correct thing by calling spade a spade. Congress always has an eye on Muslim vote bank, that is why it is refusing to take tough measures against terrorists and refusing to hang Afzal.
J
Bangalore, India
Jul 27, 2008 12:00 AM
33
>> this is how a true great leader responds.
>>
http://www.ibnlive.com/...m-strength/69672-3.html


Indeed, one has to grant that on this instance, Modis speech here is much more matured than what one expected of Modi. He spoke much more sensibly than Mr Advani and Co. who are bringing petty politics into the tragedies by blaming muslim appeasement etc as responsible and so on.
Kumar
Bangalore, India
Jul 27, 2008 12:00 AM
32
' You are just trying to rouse passions with spurious arguments.'


Maulvi ji you belong to 0.1% Islamist Muslims .

A Problem can't be its own solution.
Khushi Ram
ambala cantt, India
Jul 27, 2008 12:00 AM
31
' A thorough international investigation by scotland yard and other reliable agencies is needed to go to the cause.'

PEAR

And that 'other reliable agencies is' of course will be ISI !!
a k ghai
mumbai, India
Jul 27, 2008 12:00 AM
30
This bomb blast is nothing, this time will also past too. More worrying is India loosing to Sri Lanka in First Test match by One inning, this is real shame. Donot get bored by seeing repeated news of bomb blast on secularist news channels, switch to Sport channel & enjoy the match. That is where India is best.
Devendra Patel
Ahmedabad, India
Jul 27, 2008 12:00 AM
29
faruki

your first reaction to any muslim terror is.

do not spread hate,do not arouse passions.

and you have done nothing else for all your years
in this forum. against the parivar, against zionists, against anti muslim writers.

you are a pathetic character.

i dont wish for communal disharmony, and i would
welcome muslims joining all others in the spread
of moderniseation, end to religious bigotry, equal rights for women, and the promotion of knowledge , arts and sciences for the benefit of all of humanity.

however your agenda is to keep a sordid religion
like islam alive, what ever be the costs.

the costs to india will be high, and to muslims higher. in the backlash innocent and decent muslims will be targeted as well.

i am astonished that educated muslims refuse to
modernise and reject their backward and evil cult. thats not because of any greatness of islam, but the results of generations of muslims
being indoctrinated by teachers, parents and society.

the only way out would be to act as kamal attaturk did. modernise muslims as fast as one can, close down mosques, madrassahs, and send all
extremist muslims for rehabilitation in labour camps. faruki you need to one to be sent post haste-if nothing to stop your mindless, abusive
rude, comments in this forum.

lalitmb
kalundborg, Denmark
Jul 27, 2008 12:00 AM
28
Jaipur,Hyderabad,Malegaon,and again Bangalore and Ahmedabad!Not to be left behind a bomb has gone of in Jharkhanad Busstand also!in the last four years so many bomb blasts have been carried out by terrorists!But because of "Vote bank politics of the Sonio and Manmohan Singh combine and that eunuch called Shivraji Patil ,not even charge sheets have been filed in all these cases let alone the culprits being convicted!

The real terrorists are Sonia,ManmohanSingh,shivraj patil,ram vilas paswan,Laloo Prasad Yadav,mulayam Singh and amar Singh and the CPI,CPIM) etc whose words and deeds always emboldent the Muslim terrorists to carry out their heinous terrorist acts with the help of "local indian muslims".with such people at the helm of affairs,more and more bomb blasts would continue to occur.And these "Trojan Horses"will be content with "issuing bold statements"even as they are protected by hundreds of elite "Commandos" and offered Z plus security cover and what not!Let these maroons give up their security and then try to see the ordeal of the ordinary people who are the potential targets for Pak inspired terrorists and their "Indian accomplices"
arun
newdelhi, India
Jul 27, 2008 12:00 AM
27
"Terrorists are dime a dozen in India and Pakistan also. The actual culprits may be anybody naxalites, tamil tigers, political parties, fundamentist organisations all hiding behind some muslim organisation taking credit for the blasts. A thorough international investigation by scotland yard and other reliable agencies is needed to go to the cause.

PEAR
MUMBAI INDIA"


PEAR is right. I even doubt that in Gujarat riot, Muslims are killed by Muslims only, to settle some personal disputes. Probably, it was the same in Bosnia too, Muslims killed Muslims and they blamed Christians. Same thing is happening in Palestine. I don't think Israel is causing any problem to Palestine, it must be the Arab pigs behind the suffering of Palestine. It is hard to believe that Civilized and honorable Jews will behave like the Arab pigs.
A thorough international investigation by scotland yard and other reliable agencies is needed to go to the causes.
jaleel
luknow, India
Jul 27, 2008 12:00 AM
26
Khushi Ram/Minu,

>> The appease policy has failed.The Vote Bank policy has failed to control terror.The first take policy has failed.

These have nothing to do with terror. You are just trying to rouse passions with spurious arguments.
Anwar Patel
Dallas Tx, United States
Jul 27, 2008 12:00 AM
25
Part2.

The appease policy has failed.The Vote Bank policy has failed to control terror.The first take policy has failed. 750 Crores allote dfor muslims has failed to control, terrorism.Job reservation has failed to neutralise the Terror Logistic support and shelter.

In mere 4.4 Months all the Terror control Policies of Congress.Maya,Mulayam,variety of Muslim organisation ,Muslim Clergy,Appeasers and Left have collapsed .Net result is Police and agencies demoralised and rendered ineffective. Courts without any Laws to punish the Terrorists.

Hindus and Muslims compeletly terrorised and bewildered are now left to point accusing fingers each others.

This also proves that Jinnah was right .Finally Two Nation theory has proved to be right.Nehru-Gandhis' secularism has finally been snuffed out .Not by the Hindus or Muslims but by the Secularists themselves.

Whether Hindus or Muslims have the bigger share for the collapse of Secularism is immaterial now.

Are we heading towards a Civil War or being sucked into WAR OF CULTURES ? The future is patently bleak for both the Major communities and for the minorities like Christians etc .
Khushi Ram
ambala cantt, India
Jul 27, 2008 12:00 AM
24

I don't know where are those NGOs protecting those terrorists and their verdicts in the name of human rights....

NGOs are the ones who voiced against those stuff judgments on those terrorists.

Where are those NGOs now????

India has some pride to protect forget the vote bank politics.
Sasi KC
Reston, United States
Jul 27, 2008 12:00 AM
23

India will have to do a lot of CLEAN UP act in coming days.

# Clean up its SECURITY SYSTEM
# Clean up its demography
# Clean up its governance
# Clean up its sentiments / pragmatism
# Clean up its politics (stop blaming each other)

Blame game will stop once all those politicians are abducted from the parliament house.
Sasi KC
Reston, United States
Jul 27, 2008 12:00 AM
22
1). 99.9% Hindus know and believe that Muslims Terrorists are behind the Blasts in India.99.9 % Muslims know that Muslim Terrorists are behind the Blasts.100 % Muslims know they will suffer the consequences of the nefarious activities of these Muslim killers .They will be discriminated in jobs ,business and in social life.
Hence Muslims desperately want to hear some news that Hindus are behind the blasts.

2) 0.1% Hindus and Muslims will say go for evidence,go for proper evidence and till then don't blame anybody as more Muslims will join Terrorism in frustation for the blame game.They will clutter all evenues of expression to propogate their veiws.Don't arrest anybody under suspicion a-never any Muslim at all.Amend Laws,train your Police Force,learn from USA Police ( alas USA has not 16 crore Muslims to cope with.Pakistan has and it is like us under Islamic Terror attacks like us.Bangladesh is now tasting the first fruits of Terror patronage.Soon it will explode too )

3.) 100% Indians know that Comgress under pressure of Left and Muslims has made our Terror fight toothless by withdrawing all strong Laws.

Congress ensured that the Cases in various Courts against against the Terrorists are put in cold storage ie Mumbaim Train Blasts,Malegaon ,Hyderabad and numerous other such dastradly acts.
Congress has failed to even Hang Afzal Mian.This sends a strong signal and virtual confirmation to all the Terrorists Hindu ULFA-Maoists included that Congress Govt is there to shelter them from agencies .It also sends a strong message to the Police and other agaencies not to mess up with the terrorists at all.Tewrrorists know that present laws are there to take care of their Rights and Couurts can't punish them in 100 yrs.Meanwhile the The Rightswallas are their to protect the reputation,honour and rights of the terrorists.

Did we ever found any RIGHTSWALA BECAME A VICTIM OF TERROR ?

cntd
Khushi Ram
ambala cantt, India
Jul 27, 2008 12:00 AM
21

It's high time the Center and States come hand to hand together to protect its people.

The so called Bollywood, Tollywood, Kollywood, and other WOODS should come together to create awareness among public in identifying anti-social elements/characters in their vicinity.

It's time to be organized and systematic in governing India.

India must stand united; fight against these COWARDLY act; these culprits are not from outside but WITHIN. The locals should help/inform the police whenever they find a new person in their vicinity....
Sasi KC
Reston, United States
Jul 27, 2008 12:00 AM
20
Terrorists are dime a dozen in India and Pakistan also. The actual culprits may be anybody naxalites, tamil tigers, political parties, fundamentist organisations all hiding behind some muslim organisation taking credit for the blasts. A thorough international investigation by scotland yard and other reliable agencies is needed to go to the cause.
pear
mumbai, India
Jul 27, 2008 12:00 AM
19

These blasts are OPPORTUNITIES for INDIA to become more SECURED and Powerful in protecting its people.
Sasi KC
Reston, United States
Jul 27, 2008 12:00 AM
18
It is ridiculous to blame the absence of anti-terrorist law like POTA. When do Indian police abide by law? Especially Modi's government when dealing with Muslims.

Reason for recurring terrorist strike is utter lack of crime investigation. Moment after Jaipur blast police and political brass blamed a bunch of terrorist organization. Now we know the result. They are still clueless about the culprit. Blaming and hounding Bangladeshis did not make anyone safer.
Rajesh
Phoenix, United States
Jul 27, 2008 12:00 AM
17
>> So, Gujarat deserves the blasts is what you're saying?

No. I am saying that Hindutwa cannot protect you from terrorism. In fact Modi and Co. wants Islamists around so that they can assert their influence and patronize the masses. Ditto for terrorists.
Rajesh
Phoenix, United States
Jul 27, 2008 12:00 AM
16
It is sickening to feel that the government has no effective answer to snuff out the terrorism in our country.
T.Sathyamurthi
Folsom, United States
Jul 27, 2008 12:00 AM
15
"When asked why Indian investigators are not getting enough evidence against the terrorists and winning convincingly in courts"

That is the whole problem. Terrorists must be killed-not tried in courts. It is war-not a law and order problem.

But we need not worry. Manmohan and Shivraj Patil have condemned the blasts. What more is needed?
Ganesan
Nj, USA
Jul 27, 2008 12:00 AM
14
I think the reaction from other readers has been terribly emotional. I think what is required is to remain calm and allow independent thinkers like Mani Shanker Iyer,Ashish Nandy,MJ Akbar,Seema Mustafa,Hamid Ansari,Teesta Setalvad,Vinod Mehta and controlled and managed by Arundhati Roy,Prakash & Brinda Karat,Praful Bidwai,Sitram Yechuri to immediately rush to Gujarat. There they can spread themselves across Gujarat ( even though the blasts have taken place only in Ahmedabad) and instantly discover the hand of BJP (after all, it is the ruling party!)as well as the CIA. Outlook can then come out with a special edition next week linking the ruling circles in both Ahmedabad and Delhi to the blasts and the phyrric victory of Singh the King.
SDBALAN
Chennai(Madras), INDIA
Jul 27, 2008 12:00 AM
13
[One of India's highly experienced sleuths who is an expert on Pakistan, told rediff.com that Pakistan's Inter Services Intelligence has strengthened its bases in Nepal and Bangladesh after General Kiyani took over as Army chief.

He drew attention to the fact that in spite of Pakistan's internal problems, it has not lost its focus on India.

He reacted with anguish to the Bengaluru and Ahmedabad blasts. "Why do you ask us to comment whenever blasts occur? We, the policemen of India, are not at all getting any support from the system nor do we get support from the Indian media. People forget that terrorism is a battle that can be fought only with the help of the police. In the last five years the Indian police is fighting a lonely battle."

A serving intelligence officer said in absence of laws like Prevention of Terrorism Act and Terrorist and Disruptive Activities (prevention) Act, terrorists who have built a formidable network within India do not have any fears.

When asked to decipher the unprecedented two days of serial blasts numbering over 20 in two of the fastest developing cities of India, he said, "These blasts are a proclamation by terrorists that they have a robust infrastructure within India. The message is for the Indian police and establishment. Two, they are trying to create panic so that communal riots can be sparked."

When asked why Indian investigators are not getting enough evidence against the terrorists and winning convincingly in courts, he said, "Karnal Singh is Delhi's first rate investigating officer from the special anti-terrorist squad who has been investigating terrorism since the last four years. Currently he is being investigated by the Central Bureau of Investigation in connection with a case involving RDX and terrorists. Now Delhi's police officers are reluctant to take risks because the political establishment is not ready to support policemen who take risks beyond the call of duty."]
lookout bug me not
mumbai, India
Jul 27, 2008 12:00 AM
12
Sriram,

>> Ghulam's first post on this article will be to condemn the blasts and then to pick on Namo2's comments.

Is your Ph.D. dissertation going to be on Ghulam?
Anwar Patel
Dallas Tx, United States
Jul 27, 2008 12:00 AM
11
The group called Indian Mujahidden warned of the attack, though it is not known if it was true. Please see


http://www.nytimes.com/...tml?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin


I guess that the government needs to do more than just talk to clean up the problem. The time has come for real action.
Prakash
San Francisco, United States
Jul 27, 2008 12:00 AM
10
Bodh,

>> Wasn't it the good behe Mayawati, who vociferously proclaimed that the N-deal was specifically against Muslims. Is it any coincidence then, that just a couple of days after winning the trust vote which was really a vote on the N-deal, so many blasts are triggered.

This is an idiotic idea. The blasts must have taken months to plan. They do not appear to be the work of people who intelligently follow the proceedings of the Parliament.
Anwar Patel
Dallas Tx, United States
Jul 27, 2008 12:00 AM
9
Modi says that this is an attack not on Ahmedabad or Gujarat but on India. In my dictionary that means "Modi is appealing for a pan-Indian response to terrorism". However, in that weird dictionary that Saba Naqvi and Outlook use, it means "Modi is aspiring to play a national role in politics. He is a nazi. He is evil." and all other assorted tosh that will pass off as "analysis" in this country.

Saba will write a piece next week with interviews from unrelated-to-terror, law-abiding, hard-working, dirt-poor muslims, dubious sociologists and assorted loony intellectuals on how the Indian muslim community is hounded everytime a blast occurs and how the community condemns terrorism. Anyone willing to bet against this?

Side bet - If such an article gets written, I say Ghulam will hail it to be pathbreaking social research.

Side bet 2 - Ghulam's first post on this article will be to condemn the blasts and then to pick on Namo2's comments.
Sriram
Chennai, India
Jul 27, 2008 12:00 AM
8

Namo2:>>"UNTHIKABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Wha
t makes a 'grand national alliance' unthinkable is that nehruvian dynastic congress tends to be churchian [even from agnostic Nehru's days, the private secy for PM has been some christian from kerala; were they instrumental in bringing Rajiv and Sonia together in UK? cardinals in conspiracy? Only Jesus knows!], while the bjp leadership is strongly hinduist and anticonversionist.
If only all these chaps would realize that, spiritually, Jesus, son of God = skanda, God = Christ = Siva , skanda's dad = Alla = Jehova, and holy spirit = Sakti, consort of Siva, skanda's mom, India and the world can have greater peace and progress in universal unity.
v.seshadri
chennai, india
Jul 27, 2008 12:00 AM
7
"Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and President Pratibha Patil condemned the serial blast"

If only such condemnations are worth anything!! Atleast a single pop corn!
Ganesan
Nj, USA
Jul 27, 2008 12:00 AM
6
Narendra Modi's reaction is brave. If the bastards behind the bombs are caught, many people will like to behead those bastards. I will personally like to do that.
jaleel
luknow, India
Jul 27, 2008 12:00 AM
5
>>Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and President Pratibha Patil condemned the serial blasts and appealed for calm.

BASTARDS !!! THEY WONT STOP THESE BEARDED DOGS. THEY WILL ONLY CONDEMN. SINGH LOST HIS SLEEP WHEN THE SCOUNDREL MOHAMMED KAFIL (THIS DOG WAS RELATIVE OF A GLASGOW BOMBER) WAS ARRESTED . BUT HE WILL SLEEP PEACEFULLY NOW.
jaleel
luknow, India
Jul 27, 2008 12:00 AM
4
These dogs are doing what they were taught to do 1400 years ago. These dogs are worst than AIDS virus. They succeeded in the past, but now now they cannot and they can only do backstabbing. In any war, their countries will lose. Saudi Arabia their holy country can be vaporized in one day if the civilized world wants to do that. Israel alone can destroy all the satanic nation the middle east and Israel raped their holy lands for six days in the last war. Bottom line is, they cannot win any war now or in future. They should be careful as their holy lands will be wiped out from the earth when the civilized people lose patience.


What ISRAEL is doing is good. What USA is doing is great, they kicked out the Taliban, killed so many Talibans, killed so many dogs in Iraq. Israel is doing a great job in Palestine.
jaleel
luknow, India
Jul 27, 2008 12:00 AM
3
>> Say thank-you to the BSP, Kaangress and all the other parties who routinely molly-coddle such terrorists to appease their Muslim vote-banks

BJP was united with left in opposing N-deal.
If this is the cause of blast then BJP is equally responsible.
Rajesh
Phoenix, United States
Jul 27, 2008 12:00 AM
2
Gujarat has been Hindutwa laboratory. Yet, years of experiment and perfection did not bring desired result - end of extremism and safety.

Now if Hindus will shoot on their foot if they retaliate and repeat Godhra. Gujarat is among top performing state in terms of economy. Hindus, especially middle class, will lose most in unstable environment. Muslims on the other hand have little to lose.
Rajesh
Phoenix, United States
Jul 27, 2008 12:00 AM
1
Wasn't it the good behe Mayawati, who vociferously proclaimed that the N-deal was specifically against Muslims. Is it any coincidence then, that just a couple of days after winning the trust vote which was really a vote on the N-deal, so many blasts are triggered, creating mayhem and murder? Surely the message is loud and clear- Muslims are stating their opposition to the N-deal in their time-honored fashion- bombings and maiming and killing.
Say thank-you to the BSP, Kaangress and all the other parties who routinely molly-coddle such terrorists to appease their Muslim vote-banks??
Bodh
Springfield, United States
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