Comment
The Iranian Angle
The consequences of an Israel-Iran clash could have an impact of the forthcoming election campaign in India due to a surge of anger in the Indian Muslim community.
As the date (July 22) for the vote of confidence from the Lok Sabha in the Manmohan government nears and as the possibility of a premature election to the Lok Sabha looms large, a question often debated is the attitude of the Indian Muslims to the Indo-US nuclear deal: Do they regard it as anti-Muslim because of the perceived anti-Muslim policies of the administration of President George Bush? 

That is the question which has been raised again and again by the critics of the deal and of Prime Minister Dr.Manmohan Singh.

In this connection, it would be pertinent to take note of the attitude of the Muslims in the ummah as a whole since that could have an impact on the attitude of the Indian Muslims. The strongest criticism of India's developing relations with the US came from sections of the Muslims of the ummah immediately after the visit of Bush to India in March, 2006. 

The criticism was not specific relating to the nuclear deal. It was more in relation to what they saw as India's co-operation with the US and Israel in the war against jihadi terrorism. They noted with anger and surprise the reluctance of different political formations in India--in the rulling alliance as well as in the opposition-- to criticise the allegedly inhuman conditions in which Muslims arrested in Afghanistan, Pakistan and other parts of the world on suspicion of belonging to Al Qaeda were kept in the Guantanamo Bay detention centre in Cuba and denied the basic human rights and the benefits of the due process of the law. 

Even the former Tony Blair government of the UK, which was very supportive of the policies of the Bush Administration, expressed its discomfort over the conditions in which the Muslim detainees were kept in the Guantanamo Bay detention centre and in May 2006 publicly called for winding up the centre and transferring the detainees to the custody of the American civilian authorities from the custody of the military authorities. 

A similar demand has been voiced by many other democratic countries, by the International Committee of the Red Cross and by all human rights organisations of the West without exception. India's silence in this matter as well as over the repeated air strikes by the US in Iraq and Afghanistan, which killed a large number of civilians, was an important source of anger. This silence was seen as the inevitable outcome of the growing Indo-US strategic relationship.

It was in this context that in the last week of April 2006, Osama bin Laden projected the global jihad being waged by Al Qaeda as directed against a joint conspiracy of the Crusaders, the Jewish people and the Hindus against Islam and the Muslims. However, this characterisation has not been repeated by him since then and the anger over India's silence has not found renewed expression. However, one could not conclude from this that the anger has dissipated.

Similarly, the silence of the leftist parties--particularly of the Communist Party of India (Marxist)-- over the renewed campaign of repression by the Chinese authorities against the Uighur Muslims in the Xinjiang province bordering Pakistan is being discussed by the various Muslim chat groups in the Internet. 

They have noted that not only the leftist parties, but even the Indian political class as a whole and the Indian elite have maintained a silence over the recent public execution of two Uighurs, the arrest of about 80 others and the forcible closure of 40 mosques by the Chinese on the ground that they had been started without permission and had become the den of terrorist elements despite the fact that many of these details were carried by the state-controlled media of China. 

One can legitimately justify this silence on the ground that this was an internal matter of China, but they have noted the energetic manner in which Indian public opinion reacted to the repression of the Tibetans, but maintained a discreet silence on the repression of the Muslims.

If the unabated concerns of Israel over Iran's nuclear programme leads to an Israeli air strike against Iran's nuclear establishments with Iranian retaliation against Israel, the consequences of this clash could have an impact of the forthcoming election campaign in India due to a surge of anger in the Indian Muslim community. 

Al Qaeda and other pro-Al Qaeda Sunni organisations have kept silent over the dangers of a US military strike against Iran. In his messages of last year, Ayman al-Zawahiri, bin Laden's No.2, implied that Iran, which colluded with the US in its invasion and occupation of Iraq, cannot expect the Sunnis to come to its help against the US.

However, if Israel--and not the US-- attacks Iran, the Sunnis could rally to the support of Iran. The Indian Muslim community is unlikely to remain untouched by the anger of the ummah against Israel. India's close strategic relations with Israel built up over the years by the previous as well as the present governments could affect the attitude of the Muslims, upsetting the electoral calculations of different political formations.

In this connection, one notices that the government of India has already taken a strong stand earlier this week against any military action against Iran . 


B. Raman is Additional Secretary (retd), Cabinet Secretariat, Govt. of India, New Delhi, and, presently, Director, Institute for Topical Studies, Chennai. He is also associated with the Chennai Centre For China Studies.

 
Daily Mail
COLLAPSE COMMENTS :
HAVE YOUR SAY
Jul 22, 2008 12:00 AM
20
so speaking about Israel - where Bush and Brown are going to deliver their sermons extolling Israel as an oasis of enlightenment in sea of arab barbarity ... go to the lemonde.fr main page and look at the video called "Une bavure filmee fait scandale en Israel" - so calm, so methodical, so clean and organized the Israelis are in carrying out this particular task


http://www.google.com/s...fait+scandale+en+Israel


Arul Francis
Clayton, California
Jul 22, 2008 12:00 AM
19
The author says: "colluded with the US in its invasion and occupation of Iraq".

I googled "iran colluded US invasion iraq" and could not find any other source that says this.


http://www.google.com/s...asion+iraq&start=0&sa=N


You cannot just invent facts, you have to cite your source.

Arul Francis
Clayton, California
Jul 21, 2008 12:00 AM
18
I think that it is silly and childish of Indians to take to the streets for the sake of Israelis and Iranians. I have lived in Israel and people out there, Jews and Arabs rarely care about India. They are busy with their lives. It only points out one thing, people in India have too much free time. Otherwise, how would they waste their time on such things. To quote the movie, "To Sir With Love", I feel that it is important that one must fight for what one believes in, provided one is sure that one is right, not as a mob, but individually, not with violence. However, fighting for Israel and Iran, give me a break. The only reason this happens in India is that people work in shops or do not have jobs and have way too much free time. How does this affect anyone in India? We need a rethink on what is important to us.
Prakash
San Francisco, United States
Jul 20, 2008 12:00 AM
17
Shahid Siddique, I considered him till now, as a politician only. But it seems he is a Nuclear scientist too. He has now discovered that the nuclear deal is not good for MUSLIMS! specifically for the Indian variety! He is yet to give his scientific explanation for it. Does he think that using the nuclear energy coming from the generating plants manned by the Hindus would be a blasphemy?
T.Sathyamurthi
Folsom, United States
Jul 20, 2008 12:00 AM
16
Shahid Siddique, I considered him till now, as a politician only. But it seems he is a Nuclear scientist too. He has now discovered that the nuclear deal is not good for MUSLIMS! specifically for the Indian variety! He is yet to give his scientific explanation for it. Does he think that using the nuclear energy coming from the generating plants manned by the Hindus would be a blasphemy?
T.Sathyamurthi
Folsom, United States
Jul 20, 2008 12:00 AM
15
Karat knows that he and his cronies can never come to power in a democracy. The next best thing for him is to install a tethered mammy dummy as his PM to dance to his communist tunes. In that variety, there are now two corrupt eligibles available for him. One is Jaya and the other is Maya. Jaya would not fall into his net. She is ambitious and the very first thing she would do is to dig a grave for Karat and bury him deep. Maya is the best. Her only ambition is to become the PM! Who cares for the job? That is for others. So Carry on Karat, go ahead! It looks the days seem to be good for you now! Lord Shukra seems to be looking at you direct with more benevolence! now.
T.Sathyamurthi
Folsom, United States
Jul 19, 2008 12:00 AM
14
Next, cretinous politicians like Mayawati et al would be making statements that, Polio eradication and prevention programs are specifically ant-Muslim, that sending a mission to the Moon is especially anti-Muslim, that requiring children to attend regualar schools is especially anti-Muslim, that all laws requiring registration of marraiges are specifically anti-Muslim govt must pass legislation rescinding the SC's latest decision.......etc, etc, etc. Yes, mayawati, bhaiyyawati, lalluwati, Mullyamwati and all the other cretins will be making such noises about empathizing with their Muslim bretheren, here in New Islamistan.
Bodh
Springfield, United States
Jul 19, 2008 12:00 AM
13
Aseem Swarup Johri
What you have said is true. Whenever any brawl takes place in the Middle East with Israel on one side and the Arabs with Palestinians ganging up against it on the other side, we would be the first one to make noise throwing our support in favour of Arabs, notwithstanding the fact that it would be always Israel to come to our rescue when we holed ourselves in dire straits. Had Israel not helped us, the Kargil story may be a different one.
T.Sathyamurthi
Folsom, United States
Jul 19, 2008 12:00 AM
12
My questions is why should we Indians take to streets and tussle in the Parliament about something that happens between Isreal and Iran. Will people of Isreal and Iran take to streets for our sake and make fun of themselves in front of international community. I think it is not the Indian Muslims, but those who claim to be their representative are to be blamed for the situation. It's time they get back to their constituents and generate opinion that nothing is more important than national self interest.
Aseem Swarup Johri
Toronto, Canada
Jul 19, 2008 12:00 AM
11

# Every evolved citizen of a country must logically believe that he/she belongs to the nation first than the religion/beliefs.

# Religion should not come in place of the land where you stand.

# One should not blow one's own feet because the religion demands it - that'd be the most BARBARIC act.

# Be it Iran or Libya or Syria - Indian muslims don't have to protest for the brotherhood because they follow the same belief.

# Indian muslims have been fooled by the vested interests to create a haven for the anti-social elements in India among the Indian muslims.

# Ask any Indian muslims in the Gulf / Arab region (the brith place of Islam), they are not treated as islamic as the Arabs treat the fellow Arab muslims. However, An Indian outside India treats fellow Indians as good as they treat them back at home or whatever.

# Indian Muslims don't have to be rebellious against attacks on Muslims all over the world. For example, the Tamils in Malaysia or Sri Lanka have their own issues, however, the Tamils in India or across the world, don't voice for it. Reason, it comes under the particular country's jurisdictory or political interest. PERIOD!

Feel for them; don't fight for them....
....so the Iranian angle is an over-focussed angle.
Sasi KC
Reston, United States
Jul 19, 2008 12:00 AM
10
How about the unabashed, indiscriminate firing against TN fishermen by the sinhalese ???
Koman Vijay
stillwater, USA
Jul 18, 2008 12:00 AM
9
To Vimal ji.
Arre, not at all, friend. I am not in the least offended. I too would have used the same phrase - to hell with the opinion of every group, what is important is the national interest.
On to the next point, I am not locking horns with Raman ji. He is an erudite scholar on this subject while I am just a layman but I often feel this vote bank/minorityism bit is hyped too often. Individually, people are more concerned with their daily lives more than macro issues and there is far more interaction between people of all communities than the press makes it out to be. At least 90% of my closest friends are Hindus and I am fine with anyone from any faith - that,s his personal affair.
Next, I do not feel it is a Muslim issue at all. If,as Raman ji contends, President Bush is perceived as anti Muslim, how does one explain Turkey being a member of NATO led by the US, the many Muslims in the US living well,as also US citizens in the Middle East, the close ties between the US and Muslim countries like Egypt and Saudi Arabia,etc.
Somehow, unfortunately, this Muslim issue comes up only in India and that,s because of our short sighted politicians.
Turkey, Iran, Morocco and a host of Muslim countries have had changes in the Muslim Personal Law made, but come to India and we have the Shah Bano case blown right up to the PMO.
Coming to Iran, I confess I am not too aware of the oil dynamics but I do remember them voting against Pakistan and for us at a UN session. Also, I do not recollect ever reading of Iran backed groups creating trouble in our country.
In the final analysis, I agree with you 100%, to hell with what x or y or z thinks and says, go ahead and do what is good for the nation.
We have had enough of this dilly dallying. It is high time we scrap Article 370, bring peace and return the Pandits to Kashmir right away, and think as a single nation and not as a collection of disparate groups.
Azeem Taqi
Nashville, United States
Jul 18, 2008 12:00 AM
8
AZEEM Bhaie

"AAP ko bura laga hoga mera statement Kschama Chahata hoon!"

It was meant for Mr Raman, making it an issue that bring Muslim community to cross road, speculating over the outcome.

You say community as a whole is not too concerned.

Mr Raman says Ummah and implication may upset political calculation in next election.

WHO is correct.

Educated Indians like you in your "Kaum" is a TRIBE, who needs special care. I don't find through your writings that you are less nationalist then me but your genus is rare.

Muslim population is disillusioned lot once religio-politico-socio question arise.
Linking it to anger is an absurdity(solution wise), he should have pointed out two issues: First is it really an Muslim issue?

Second IRAN has consistently voted against India on issue of Kashmir in OIC over the decades.

Good it may be in their national interest.

What is so special about IRAN with India? There is mis-information that India is ignoring them. Iranis are bargaining price, not giving subsidy like Saudis to Pakis over oil.

No one bothers to expose what Iran has done against India.

I would say this community loves being taken by ride by politicians, promising them false hope on religious issues, that need not be even mentioned.

Only lately they have started speaking out occasionally. Voice is still inaudible and comes from rare corners.

My casual attitude is borne out of long reading of their casualness over protecting their own interests, all in the name of foolish interpretation of their religion which makes them a group, creating social to national disharmony, any where!!

Lastly national interest V some section (left or muslims?)
We have a democratic system where a minority govt can make International treaty.

If national interest creates civil-disturbances.
Let it be!!

Let people pass this phase also.
You can find good example, our great neighbour, PAKISTAN

Let us see how the purest Muslims(Taliban) and civil-society finding there a way out of ISLAM.
vimal
Munich, Germany
Jul 18, 2008 12:00 AM
7
Ashok,

>> The surges in Muslim are of religious Islamic kind.

Surges are surges. Are we now going to discriminate between Muslim and Hindu surges? You are so dumb.
Anwar Patel
Dallas Tx, United States
Jul 18, 2008 12:00 AM
6
Ashok,

>> "surge of anger among muslims" (Ganesan)
>> Muslims keep having these surges (Ashok).

This is another example of your depravity and low-level mentality. We continue seeing surges in the Communists, the Sanghis, the Gujjars, the Assamese, the Sikhs, the Nav Nirman senas etc on a daily basis, and all you can think of is to say something mean-spirited about the Muslims! Shame on you.
Anwar Patel
Dallas Tx, United States
Jul 18, 2008 12:00 AM
5
Indian moslems should not blindly support Iran, simply bec it is a moslem country. Iranians have no right to say they are entitled to program for the extermination of israel, US should not oppose it, nor israel resist it. Iran has enough gas even to offer it to india via pak. Why does it, then, need a lot of nuclear plants, other than for making weapons targetting israel?

If moslems in india will only vote on extra-national moslem interests, then, India cannot have moslems in its defence forces. Our electoral system may also have to be rearranged for moslems, in the way pak treats its hindus and other minorities. They should separately vote for 10% of seats in parliament, their percentage in india at the time of independance. Similar proportionate demo in different states.
Moslems in india cannot be allowed to operate as powerfull votebanks in indian politics, if their mind-banks are loyal only to the interests of iran, arabia, pak, bangla and other moslem countries of the world.

If moslem prisoners are mal-treated in guantanamo, india should oppose it strongly. All such prisons, for extranational opponents, in all countries, should be brought under UNO supervision. Root causes should be found out and eliminated, where justified.
v.seshadri
chennai, india
Jul 18, 2008 12:00 AM
4
If we have to take into accounts the sentiments of every religion which finds home in our country, we can neither move forward nor backward. It is not all but the Blind Followers of obscurantism that is upto the hilt in every religion who are the root cause for all the troubles.
T.Sathyamurthi
Folsom, United States
Jul 18, 2008 12:00 AM
3
To Vimal ji.
"Bhand me jaye Muslim anger". Why are you worried?
Agreed, the only thing we should be concerned with as Indians is the national interest and if some section disagrees, we have to still proceed with what the national interest demands but such a casual attitude towards such a big group would only create civil disturbances and that is against the country,s interests.
Incidentally, I was only replying to your 'casual' attitude.
Personally, I do not think the community as a whole is too concerned about the deal and in the final analysis, if the deal provides cheaper and cleaner fuel,it benefits all and not any particular group.

To Kamal.
Agreed, Wafa Sultan and Ayaan Hirsi Ali have their points but isin,t placing them notches above Obama who is undoubtedly highly intellectual and knowledged, besides being a great orator who knows in depth what he is talking about, taking it a bit too far?
I am a die hard Indian but if I say India is the richest country on Earth, that,ll be my heart and not my mind speaking.

To Ganesan.
Friend! Everyone is always angry/upset over something and while these things have to be factored in, experience shows that when the interest (in this case, national interest) is the prime motivation, it must be carried thru' to its logical conclusion and not deviated from because a group objects to it. There will always be naysayers.
Azeem Taqi
Nashville, United States
Jul 18, 2008 12:00 AM
2
Mr Raman is sometimes lost in his old habit, working for congress regime. He is doing same again in this article.

Warning govt of "Muslims rection in political calculation".
I would say "Bhand me jaye Muslim anger". Why are you worried?

Future of this community is doomed, as the biggest enemy is their own religion called ISLAM.

So why should we sink with this community? Let them express politically.

Congress is doing deal with USA, BJP is for ties with USA, SP is with congress, let them vote for Mayawati and Left.

Raising Muslim voice is promoting communalism. You are not raising but inciting a possibility of misguiding community.
vimal
Munich, Germany
Jul 18, 2008 12:00 AM
1
"surge of anger among muslims"

The muslims are always angry over something. Whats the news there?
Ganesan
Nj, USA
COLLAPSE COMMENTS   
Post a Comment
You are not logged in, please log in or register
ABOUT US | CONTACT US | SUBSCRIBE | ADVERTISING RATES | COPYRIGHT & DISCLAIMER | COMMENTS POLICY