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White Woman's Woe
For Indian men, nothing's fairer than white, and nothing 'more available'
I know a Romanian student who is studying classical dancing on scholarship in Delhi. One evening, an autorickshaw driver extended his hand and tried to grope her thighs. She hit him so hard with her bag that he is not likely to forget that in a hurry. Many foreign women I've met have similar India stories to tell.

Why do Indian men behave so badly with foreign women? Recently they arrested a security guard in a backwaters resort in Kerala for trying to molest two Canadian girls aged 12 and 14. The family cut short their holiday and left. The police in Goa are looking for a man who allegedly raped a British woman after giving her a lift. An American tourist was sexually assaulted in a temple in Pushkar. A guesthouse owner in Udaipur is accused of raping a journalist from England. The list is endless. All this and more happened in the last month or so.

If this state of affairs continues, word will spread that India is no longer a safe place for women to travel. In Saudi Arabia, women are not allowed to drive, they cannot teach male students or treat male patients. We are much more civilised. We just don't allow them to walk safely on our streets, especially if they happen to be white.

By the time you read this, the alarm bells would have rung in the Union tourism ministry, and the minister would have called a meeting to see how female visitors can be protected from our desi louts. The situation might improve for a while in the coming months, but you can bet your tourist dollar that it will be business as usual after that.

Sudhir Kakar, who lives in Goa, says that a white woman walking alone there is likely to be stopped by someone on a motorcycle and asked point-blank, "Do you want to be f*****d?" Or words to that effect. Kakar is an authority on human behaviour and I asked him why this should be so. "The Indian woman is a maa, a beti or a bahu for these men. The white woman, on the other hand, is fair game. She is a whore."

Sexual harassment of women is a worldwide problem. They get their bottoms pinched in Rome. In New York, men on construction sites will make lewd remarks to pretty women passing by. The behaviour of Indian men is less innocuous; there is nothing playful about it. He wants to bed that woman, nothing less. And he is prepared to use force if necessary. He has the impression that westerners treat sex as casually as shaking hands.

This is racism, but there is more to it. Indian men prefer fair women to dusky ones. And there is nothing fairer than white. If you need convincing on that point, I suggest you turn to the matrimonial pages of our Sunday newspapers. All the potential brides have fair complexions. The dozens of creams in the market that claim to whiten the skin all do brisk business.

An Indian man may not be willing to marry a white woman but, if he had a choice, he would prefer to have sex with a white woman rather than an Indian one. There are other factors involved in the harassment of white women—lack of sexual outlet, men still being virgins well past puberty, sometimes frigid wives—but the colour of the victim's skin plays an important part. You will not find African women being harassed in this country.

Tourists are more vulnerable. They usually haven't been long enough in the country to read the signals right, to figure out that their polite response to what seems to be a helpful, friendly gesture is often construed as a readiness for sex. White women who have made India their home have less of a problem. They have taken to wearing salwar kameez, they have some knowledge of Hindi, which establishes their local credentials, they don't accept invitations for a drink or a movie or a ride from men they do not know. They have learnt how to freeze someone who is too persistent in his attentions or getting uncomfortably familiar, and to walk in a manner that puts out a clear signal: don't mess with me.

The Lonely Planet guide advises female tourists to refrain from wearing sleeveless blouses, tight-fitting clothing or from trying the bra-less look. "Getting constantly stared at is something you'll simply have to get used to. Just walk confidently and refrain from returning male stares, as this may be considered a come-on."

That's sound advice. The Indian woman would have learnt these tricks with her mother's milk!
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HAVE YOUR SAY
Aug 23, 2009 09:41 AM
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This was way cool. But we cannot forget about Eve-teasing. This is an indigenous form of harassment, and not amount of foreign focus can paste over the fact that local women are taught how to behave from a young age. PLEASE ask Kakar to speak about his own experiences with attraction to white women- I'm American, so the personal is political, and it'd be interesting to hear his take. Also, what role do women play in rearing men who so easily disrespect women?
Diepiriye S. Kuku-Siemons
New Delhi, India
Feb 02, 2008 12:00 AM
59
Unfortunately, Subcontinent men are hypocrites in general. They don’t mind screwing neighborhoods’ wife but would ensure his wife does not even talk to any male! They dream of bedding white women but would never marry for the simple reason White women are also not interested in long term relationships with such men! It works both ways. The article sounds as though White women prefers Indian men and it is only Indian men reject them! As far as, single desi women being treated on similar grounds, it is simply the mentality.
In India mixing up with girls and boys from early ages “could” solve the problem but it can also accelerate other problems such as teenage pregnancies etc…We all need to think ourselves whether we would mind our Daughters to experiment their sexual desires with boz-n-menz! If Indian men suddenly become too generous tolerating their women flirting and whoring everywhere, then we will not see such instances of panty wearing White Women getting man handled by sex starved Indian men but at what cost?!
Ram
Kerela, India
Feb 02, 2008 12:00 AM
58

RENUKA CHOWDHURY : A feminists personal life :


It is well known that Renuka Choudary had an unhappy married life as she is used to complete control in everything she does and her husband has managed to escape from her and live a peaceful life beyond her reach. This has caused considerable agony to her and she has formulated several laws so that women can torture their husbands legally, even when hushands in similar position to that of Renuka Choudary have managed to run away from their abusive wives.

She has allowed passage of Domestic Violence (DV) Act, which is responsible for hundreds of thousans of people suffereing loss of their hard earned financial assets. Several senior citizens have lost access to their own homes due to this DV act.

Both her daughters are divorcees who could not have a family and have gotten huge divorce settlements. In addition to herself, both her daughters have misused the laws which Renuka Choudary herslef enacted for the very purpose of misuse.


www.498a.org
Parthasarathy B
Chennai, India
Feb 02, 2008 12:00 AM
57
RC may be a practitioner of alternate courses which is in vogue among top celebraties including "liberal" women politicians. Even media is going gaga over titillating stories on such instances and trying to promote such practices as the RIGHT thing!
Ram
Kerela, India
Feb 01, 2008 12:00 AM
56
To JOSEPH from KARACHI, PAKISTAN;

"Downloading of Pornography from the Internet is hardly damaging to Health"
wow, your definition of health is pretty narrow.

"Sodomy with Children"
Well, few persons are historically known for. aren't they?

"Incidence of HIV/Aids is the true measure of Sexual Activity"
No sir, that is measure of unsafe sexual practices, not sexual activities.

"I feel sorry for those inflicted Indians"
Thats so nice of you, but I'd prefer to extend it to all, around the globe.
Bunty
Hsinchu, Taiwan
Feb 01, 2008 12:00 AM
55
Brush up on Context, Correlation and Concern, BUNTY, and read on. Thank You.


http://209.85.135.104/c...nt=pub-9066311663866433


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Commercial Sexual Exploitation in Tourism 54 7.1.1. Typology of Children54 7.1.1.1.Migrant Children54 7.1.1.2.Local Children 54 7.1.1.3.Age 55 7.1.1.4.Sex 55 7.1.1.5.Socio-Economic Background 56 7.1.1.6.Household Income56 7.1.1.7.Education57 7.1.1.8.Language 57 7.1.1.9.Work Situation57 7.2. Child Sex Exploiters 58 7.2.1. Long-term Residential Child Sex Exploiters 58 7.2.2. Child Sex Exploiters Who Visit Goa on a Regular Basis 58 7.2.3. Casual Visitors 58 7.2.4. Traditional Sex Exploiters 58 7.2.5. “Hardened” Sex Tourists, Paedophiles and Preferential Child Sex Abusers 58 7.2.6. Preferential Paedophiles 59 7.2.7. Male Homosexual Sex Tourists 59 7.2.8. Female Sex Tourists59 8. RECOMMENDATIONS608.1. Tourism Authorities 60 8.2. Tour Operators and/or Hoteliers60 8.3. NGOs 61 8.4. State Protection Services61 8.4.1. Judiciary61 8.4.2. Department of Women and Child Development 61 8.5. Law Enforcement62 APPENDICES 63 i.List of Relevant NGOs in Kerala63 ii.List of Relevant NGOs in Goa 64 iii.List of Relevant Tourism Bodies 64 iv.Cases of Paedophilia in Goa65 BIBLIOGRAPHY
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Joseph
Karachi, Pakistan
Feb 01, 2008 12:00 AM
54
Indians are cheap, tasteless, back-stabbing, dirt poor, loving everything European, third-class European wannabes.

They have no talent or any creativity.

India is one of the poorest countries in the world. The Indians always try to show to the world that they are sombodies, but the fact is that they are nobodies.

The India that is portrayed in their cinema (called Bollywood) does not reflect real India. You add up all the upper middle class and rich people in India. That will not even makeup 1% of the Indian population (i.e. 10 million). 99% of India consist of it’s middle class and poor classes.

That is reality.

And as the saying goes, the TRUTH HURTS.
dkd
New York, United States
Feb 01, 2008 12:00 AM
53
DKD, I am confused. It is difficult to decipher whether you are being Sarcastic or do really mean what you Say.

Are you an Indian?. If so, you are a terribly honest one unless, of course. you are being Sarcastic.



Joseph
Karachi, Pakistan
Feb 01, 2008 12:00 AM
52
Mr. PARTHASARTHY

I would like u to re-read some of the sentences where the author categorically does NOT mentions - "some", "fewer", "rarely", etc.

-Why do "Indian" men behave so badly with foreign women?

-An "Indian" man may not be willing to marry a white woman but, if he had a choice, he would prefer to have sex with a white woman rather than an Indian one.

-Sudhir Kakar, who lives in Goa, says that a white woman walking alone there is likely to be stopped by "someone" on a motorcycle and asked point-blank, "Do you want to be f*****d?"

Muhammed
Los Angeles, USA
Feb 01, 2008 12:00 AM
51
DKD, you are all the way from NEW YORK, UNITED STATES to here, shows India IS somebody ....... doesn't it? :)

kya bhai JOSEPH, chor-chor bhai-bhai? :D

I don't know how people think here? I was told to "Brush up on Context"; and context is offensive sexual behaviour against WHITE woman. The emphasis is on "White".
I disagree.
1. White is more pleasant, no can do!! and it is not Indian specific issue.
2. Indian male are sexually repressed, and there is a huge fantasy linked to western culture.

Since India is in middle of openness and closeness of society, there is a dilemma.

Now, see who is talking, people from Pakistan.
Damn!!!
You are not even at the level of India, if it is about sexual freedom/suppression is concern. People are saving their throats, rather than exploring sex.
So please give us a break.
Bunty
Hsinchu, Taiwan
Jan 31, 2008 12:00 AM
50
Haven't you heard about thousands of women raped for no reason in March 2002 in none other than the most so-called industrial state of Gujarat. There are individuals who feel proud in terrorizing women on the basis of their religious superiority - our women versus other women.
Muhammed
Los Angeles, USA
Jan 31, 2008 12:00 AM
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Muhammed
Los Angeles, USA
Jan 31, 2008 12:00 AM
48
Whoa! Now the feministvadis want to use Gujarat as an example of how perverted males are!

Gujarat was a criminal offence of the highest order, with involvement of none less than the CM, organised along a religious basis.

Besides, it would be a fallacy to suggest that the riots took place without the knowledge of the females there. In fact, surely, the wives, mothers and daughters of the accused know who the criminals are and still support them! How can feminists then say it was a crime against women by MEN? It was a crime organised by a RELIGION, including men and women, against all, but women in particular, of another RELIGION.

Again, Feminists, Please do not stereotype and generalise to malign all Indian males.
Parthasarathy B
Chennai, India
Jan 31, 2008 12:00 AM
47
I wonder if Mr PARTHASARATHY B from CHENNAI lives in an island or something?
When it comes on crime against women, he didn't see any.
When it is about Gujrat, he knows all.

Well, psychologist will say, people with fixed opinion are most dangerous, since they lack flexibility and receptivity.
Our frainds from Pakistan (and of course few from LOS ANGELES, USA ;) ) are testimony.
:D
Bunty
Hsinchu, Taiwan
Jan 31, 2008 12:00 AM
46
Bunty, because Jews were killed in Germany, would that make ALL Europeans murderers?

How can a person generalise with absurdity like this - because a few white tourists were raped, how do ALL Indian MALES become rapists? This kind of feminism and male bashing is dangerous, and should be taken front on by all right thinking people and self respecting males.
Parthasarathy B
Chennai, India
Jan 31, 2008 12:00 AM
45
Top Ten Countries interested in Sex according to Google (2006 figures)

Pakistan
Egypt
Vietnam
Iran
Morocco
India
Saudi Arabia
Turkey
Philippines
Poland

Hahaha, is hamaam mein sab nange hain - incl.Joseph and his feverish porno search from Karachi.

Congrats Pakistan! Good Show, keep it up up up !!!
sandy
Mumbai, India
Jan 31, 2008 12:00 AM
44
Being Interested in Sex should not be confused with having Illicit Sex in all its Manifestations.

In the present day and age, the Incidence of HIV/Aids is the true measure of Sexual Activity. Downloading of Pornography from the Internet is hardly damaging to Health.

More damaging is HIV/Aids, Sodomy with Chidren in Orissa, Goa and Kerala.

I do not say Ha Ha Ha. Instead I feel sorry for those inflicted Indians. Issues can never be made a butt of snide jokes.
Joseph
Karachi, Pakistan
Jan 30, 2008 12:00 AM
43
perhaps it is to do with a combination of the following:
1.too much of exposure to lewd/obscene images in the public media,
2.lack of respect for women in general,
3.lack of proper sex education, and,
4.an excessive consumption of meat (which incites 'tamas' qualities) and alcohol (which disorients and blinds one's perception of right and wrong)
Anita Ram
Houston, United States
Jan 30, 2008 12:00 AM
42


ANITA RAM

"1.too much of exposure to lewd/obscene images in the public media,"

percapita, porn in India is far FAR BELOW that in countries where it it legal and also in feminist countries.

"2.lack of respect for women in general",

No other country has female GODS! How can you generalise?

"3.lack of proper sex education, and,"

Sex education itself is a recent concept. So how can you blame it for anything that was there even without it?

"4.an excessive consumption of meat (which incites 'tamas' qualities) "

Dont females eat meat?

"and alcohol (which disorients and blinds one's perception of right and wrong) "

Its your perception thats wholly wrong here. Does that mean you are drunk?

Cheers!

Parthasarathy B
Chennai, India
Jan 30, 2008 12:00 AM
41
Anita:

"perhaps it is to do with a combination of the following:
1.too much of exposure to lewd/obscene images in the public media,
2.lack of respect for women in general,
3.lack of proper sex education, and,
4.an excessive consumption of meat (which incites 'tamas' qualities) and alcohol (which disorients and blinds one's perception of right and wrong)"

>> Your comments #1 and #4 are outdated and idiotic to say the least. Westerners have far greater access to lewd images and consume more meat and alcohol than Indians do. Please take your vegetarian (probably Brahminic) "tamas/rajas" bull-shit somewhere else.
Anand
Santa Clara, USA
Jan 30, 2008 12:00 AM
40


CHAITANYA,

A million foreign women visit Indian? And 20 of them get RAPED EVERY YEAR? This is a breathtaking assumption!

Where are you getting your statistics from? And EVEN ASSUMING this '20' as a fact, how can ALL INDIAN MALES be held as villains for the acts of a handful?

Parthasarathy B
Chennai, India
Jan 30, 2008 12:00 AM
39
Parthasarathy: You are fast becoming a woeful apologist for the far-too-common brutish behavior exhibited by Indian males. Agreed that stereotyping won't get us anywhere, but the first step toward reform is acceptance. You seem to live in a world of denial, sir.
Anand
Santa Clara, USA
Jan 30, 2008 12:00 AM
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As do most Indians in this Forum, MR. ANAND. Denial is the name of the game in India.
Joseph
Karachi, Pakistan
Jan 30, 2008 12:00 AM
37
As do most Indians in this Forum, MR. ANAND. Denial is the name of the game in India.
Joseph
Karachi, Pakistan
Jan 30, 2008 12:00 AM
36
Joseph: "As do most Indians in this Forum, MR. ANAND. Denial is the name of the game in India."

>> Thanks for your wonderfully enlightened anti-India views from the land of plenty, honey and gold Mr. Joseph. People like you who take impish delight in the problems of neighbors are reserved a special place in hell, the local pastor tells me.
Anand
Santa Clara, USA
Jan 30, 2008 12:00 AM
35
Some of the denials include the non-existence of Pigs, Load-shedding, abject Poverty, Dharavi, etc., etc., etc.

As for your Local Pastor, I hope he does not come a Parish that has been shelling out Money for you know what. A quick check through Google tells me that he may be providing, of course, he is a Roman Catholic.

The Internet over the years has brought me an awareness that we are all Sinners here.
Joseph
Karachi, Pakistan
Jan 30, 2008 12:00 AM
34


Anand,

This ultra-feminist onslaught on males, by using assumptions, generalisations, insinuations, stereotyping, myths, and plain lies, will be taken on frontally henceforth, by all right thinking people, and by all self respecting males, including myself.

Parthasarathy B
Chennai, India
Jan 30, 2008 12:00 AM
33
The most myopic, lopsided piece Outlook has ever published!
Vijayender Ch
Bangalore, India
Jan 30, 2008 12:00 AM
32
And what about th3 plight of millions of Indian women, who are abused,raped.killed every day?
I suppose they do not warrant the same shock and awe involved with a foreign female! Ditto, what about the many youing boys and girls abused daily by foriegn tourists?
Pravin Kumar
vadodara, India
Jan 30, 2008 12:00 AM
31
1.White women are harassed more in the americas.
2.In India, Indian women are harassed more than white women are.
3.India is just as safe for women as it is for men, and just as unsafe for men as it is for women.
Stop analysing issues from a distorted perspective. Stop publishing trash!
Vijayender Ch
Bangalore, India
Jan 30, 2008 12:00 AM
30
>>> A fiendish plonker from Karachi: "As do most Indians in this Forum, MR. ANAND. Denial is the name of the game in India."

One wonders what's the name of the game in Pakistan ??
Vijay Agarwal
Northampton, United Kingdom
Jan 30, 2008 12:00 AM
29
Denial. yes, MR. VIJAY AGARWAL. However, the scale is smaller.
Joseph
Karachi, Pakistan
Jan 30, 2008 12:00 AM
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By the way, MR. VIJAY AGARWAL, have you met me to know that I am a "fiendish plonker"?. Please do not allow your breeding to show.
Joseph
Karachi, Pakistan
Jan 30, 2008 12:00 AM
27
Joseph>>> have you met me to know that I am a "fiendish plonker"?. Please do not allow your breeding to show.

No, but you show yours quite admirably by what you write .. that's for sure ...
Vijay Agarwal
Northampton, United Kingdom
Jan 30, 2008 12:00 AM
26
I excerpt from the Internet, MR. VIJAY AGARWAL.

All indisputable facts. Unless, of course, you believe that there are all liars of poor breeding there too.
Joseph
Karachi, Pakistan
Jan 29, 2008 12:00 AM
25
One gets the impression that Bhaichand Patel picks up isolated incidents and generalizes them. Of course, even a single incident is one too many.
In an earlier piece, he said that Hindus and Muslims of Gujarat do not blend. Agreed there were problems and even now, some misgivings exist but can this be said to apply to millions of people?
In this piece, he has rightly pointed out that 'white' women have been subjected to harassment in India.
Bhaichand bhai, can you tell me the name of one place on Earth where sexual harassment does not exist at all?
To blame only us Indians for this is patently incorrect.
Azeem Taqi
Nashville, United States
Jan 29, 2008 12:00 AM
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Mr Chennai PB has become like our other great refuter, Faruki sa'ab. Fact is, no amount of excuses will make an iota of difference - truth is! Nothing personal.
And yes, such things as sexual harassment happen everywhere, but we're talking about a rather special phenomenon - the "white-skin syndrome" Indians of every walk of life are so afflicted with". And don't try to deny it Mr Chennai PB.
Bodh
Springfield, United States
Jan 29, 2008 12:00 AM
23


Bodh,

Why dont we focus instead of blaming 'all Indian males', on the lack of proper tourism security, prevention of exposure of tourists to the lower class of society - the taxi drivers - and a preventive judicial system?

Is nt that what a GENUINELY concerned person would try to do, instead of male bashing - which is typical of feminists?

Parthasarathy B
Chennai, India
Jan 29, 2008 12:00 AM
22
Azim,

"Bhaichand bhai, can you tell me the name of one place on Earth where sexual harassment does not exist at all?"

Inside Outlook office, of course.
Parthasarathy B
Chennai, India
Jan 29, 2008 12:00 AM
21
I agree Bhaiand Bhai. Sex education might be the solution?
Ah yes, sex education is not going to eradicate the problem, but that will at least put the problem where it belongs to. As now it is too much of suppression and fantasy.
Bunty
Hsinchu, Taiwan
Jan 29, 2008 12:00 AM
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Millions of white women visit India as tourists every year. A couple of them(less than 20 i believe) get raped. This proportion is far less than the fate Indian women are subjected to. A foreign woman is always welcome in India as a tourist, as long as she doesn't take up the task of changing political order or demographic order in India. Such over-enthusiastic people are least welcome.
chaitanya
chennai, India
Jan 29, 2008 12:00 AM
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The question is why do Indian men behave so badly with foreign women? The answer is they behave badly with all women since Indian males are incapable of healthy relationships with most women. The social practice of sex separation from early on nurtures this disability. When combined with a clear lacuna of logic in their thinking the result is crimes such as rapes. The logic works like this. Western women are liberated and therefore are sexually promiscuous. That NECESSARILY means they will have sex with anybody and everybody at anytime and every time. Additionally, ubiquitous pornography almost always features western “actresses.” From that infinitesimally small subset of women, Indian males infer that ALL western women must be hyper sexed skanks; even those who don't act on such thoughts. In other words, female liberation processed through the logic of Indian males results in female slavery to sexual whim of men. Therefore, a white woman’s report of being raped is not at all reporting of criminal activity but a deep seated conspiracy to harm the image of India.

It is true that sexual liberation in the West means higher probability of a woman being more open to sex earlier than in India. Which is not to say that Indian women aren’t open for one-night stands. For some clearly are. But, generally in the West, female sexuality is not deemed a communal property but the possession of individual women. Therefore, if one were charming, interesting, handsome with right timing and style, there is higher probability of early sex with a right white woman. Their absence and a presence of astonishing naivete about sexual matters in Indian males in general means the subsurface criminal proclivities surface faster with white women. Kakar’s claim of Indian males accosting a white woman and asking “Do you want to be f*****d” bears out their general crudity. Only their depraved minds could imagine that a white woman picked out of random would find such an invitation irresistible. Their minds manage a complete discontinuity between white women and their female relatives. The independence and freedom of western women also means higher probability of faster rejection or crushed testicles if her personal space or self is violated when she isn't a vulnerable tourist. That’s why Indian males make no such queries of white women in the West.
Augustus aaa
Pune, India
Jan 28, 2008 12:00 AM
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Indian females are encountering these dangers everyday, but noone cares. They get molested in public transport regularly. They can be robbed anywhere. They can be raped in trains or abducted if they travel on trains through Bihar, Madhya Pradesh and Uttar Pradesh. However, most of them do not report because of the shame attached to it and because the policemen would say, " That is not our area; you need to go to that police station". Reporting itself in the right police station demands bribe of at least Rs.100, otherwise the police officer would not even look at the person. Even then, nothing will happen.
This is India, a very dangerous place for any girls or women from the age of 4 to 60.

Dipak Bose
Calcutta, India
Jan 27, 2008 12:00 AM
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Many Indian men are sexually repressed without a proper vent for their emotions. Contrary to the article's stilt, rapes are more rampant in Indian villages, where certain castes consistently get away with public molestation and rape of girls.

Mr. Parthsarathy here who's sole purpose seems to be fighting some cooky feminists, I'm sure wouldn't advise females in his family to walk alone after dusk.
Anand
Santa Clara, USA
Jan 27, 2008 12:00 AM
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Bodh,

"Indians men are predatory little shits!"

Is a simplistic view. Indian males are no doubt simple in nature, slightly low in self-esteem, and do not have any sophisticcation. But that nature should not be misconstrued as evidence of an 'evil mind' Since when has thought become a punishable offence? How can the obnoxious acts of a few be used to paint a whole gender?

"They are mommy's little boys who they still can't find a wife of their own "

But that is Indian society for you. Why dont the females get out of their 'fathers daughter' mindset and open themselves to men? Wont that be a real catalyst for change? Or should we expect men and men alone to make the change happen? Which planet are you in?

Anand, "I'm sure wouldn't advise females in his family to walk alone after dusk"

If indeed that was a test of society, it should be measured on a relative basis. COMPARE it with what it used to be at a certain period of time previously. And also COMPARE it with other countries where feminism rules. Even the Home Minister in the UK does not venture out after dark.

You must understand that there used to be a time when women could never venture outside home, dusk or dark. That is because women, if raped - and that is the violent face of natural society - become pregnant, which is socially unacceptable.



Parthasarathy B
Chennai, India
Jan 27, 2008 12:00 AM
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How can 500 million people be guilty for the obnoxious acts of tens of people?

In that case, are we all guilty of not only rape, but also murder, theft, loot and plunder and much much else.

Why dont we focus instead of blaming 'all Indian males', on the lack of proper tourism security, prevention of exposure of tourists to the lower class of society - the taxi drivers - and a preventive judicial system?



Parthasarathy B
Chennai, India
Jan 27, 2008 12:00 AM
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spot on. with our repressive hypocritical culture this is bound to happen. people work up a lather over m f hussain's doodles but they're comfortable with "eve teasing."
anup k. zachariah
dublin, Ireland
Jan 27, 2008 12:00 AM
13
Indian women live with this every single day. Most Western women know already that India is unsafe for women alone, because most guidebooks spell it out qute clearly.It is a sign of how sex-starved Indian men are that they behave in this manner; they are hypocrites who equate a woman who looks you in the eye or does not wear a dupatta to a woman who is easy to get into bed. By and large,it may be true that white women are more likely to have casual sex than Indian women,however Indian men can't get their heads around the fact that women can actually choose. Just because Indian men know that very few Western women in their late teens and twenties are likely to be virgins, they find it difficult to comprehend that someone who has had sex would not want to have sex with just about anyone at just about any time in just about any place. It is a sickening, revolting attitude. I would have hoped things had changed, but they clearly haven't. The only reason the number of incidents seems to have increased is that there are more tourists, India isn't just for hippies any more; secondly with email and improved telephone services, tourists are more likely to contact their consular staff, who will generally encourage them to file a complaint. It has always been a problem.
Nayanika Barat
Toowoomba, Australia
Jan 26, 2008 12:00 AM
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Indian women deal with this all the time in India. Suggestive catcalls, groping, men deliberately brushing against them. But suddenly India is getting aware of its global status and its tourist trade is at stake with stories like this and decides to take action. When Indian women were suffering neither the police or the community was willing to put an end to this behavior.

pv
premlata
Mumbai, India
Jan 26, 2008 12:00 AM
11
jojo
>>>. Is it because it shows some Indian Males in correct light?.


As if pakistani men are any different. This article aptly applies to men from the sub-continent. No need to gloat because the authors refers to them as indian.
chester pester
timbaktoo, timbaktoo
Jan 26, 2008 12:00 AM
10
One word. "Culture". The sub-continental culture of repressed sexuality and purdah system (started with the muslim invasion of India). If there was free mixing of males with females in the society from a very early age and a sexual outlet from an early age it would not be so alarming. Secondly, single women are considered to be easy targets. Desis generally do not mess with couples. It's not just for 'whites'. Even single desi women are treated the same way. It's just that there are too few single desi women around town. By 'single', I mean going around all alone without anyone accompanying them. That is the reason, Indian girls never go alone. They always take 'Chiku', the 2 feet tall younger brother to market in worst case scenario or go about town in groups or at least in twos. I don't think white women with partners are targets (there may be exceptions).
Raj
Chicago, United States
Jan 26, 2008 12:00 AM
9




How could ANY editor allow such blatant stereotyping of Indian males with such general terms, when it is the act of a few, maybe tens of men, in a population of half a billion?

If Pratibha Patil cheats people of crores of rupees, can that be generalised to all females as 'corrupt'? Will the feminists allow that to happen?

Why should these females expose themselves to the bottom of sex-starved Indian society? How can the author compare their acts to generalise it with what EVERY SINGLE INDIAN MALE would do, given the same circumstances?

This is absurd male stereotyping in the media, laying the ground for more draconian legislation aimed at the basic rights of Indian males.





Parthasarathy B
Chennai, India
Jan 26, 2008 12:00 AM
8
It's an accurate description of the of the mindset. Though rape may not just be confined to the so called 'white women' and we have a number of Indian victims too. I know of a number of people, who feel that they would sleep with a white woman, but not marry her. WHY in the world? I have actually heard this: "They are too fast and not docile like our women back home". They are 'whores' just meant for sex. !! I have heard that as well. And this is coming from the so called 'educated' people, who live and study in the USA. I know that most typical indian men will also not marry a 'progressive' indian woman for similar reasons. It's just a typical indian mindset. My apologies to the Indian men who are not like this, I dont mean to offend you guys and I am one of you. And I know, we are a sad minority and we form less than 1% of the population? maybe much lesser. Either that, or we just dont understand the mindset of Indians lesser exposed to cosmopolitan environments!
vijay shankar
Bangalore, India
Jan 26, 2008 12:00 AM
7
I was Enquiring not Gloating, MR. CHESTER PESTER.
Joseph
Karachi, Pakistan
Jan 26, 2008 12:00 AM
6


Vijay,

Please understand the difference between dreaming and actually molesting someone.

Yes, males do dream. But is that a crime? Do all males go around molesting white females? In that case, how many WISH people were DEAD. How about me, who wished the editor was arrested for defaming males? Should legal action be initiated against me for that? Is thought a crime? In that case, males should have slept individually with at least 1000 girls ( and vice versa ).

How can a few criminals make an entire gender criminal? This is an immature, extremist feminist suggestion and ridiculous editing.



Parthasarathy B
Chennai, India
Jan 26, 2008 12:00 AM
5
Mr Chennai P.B. can make all the excuses for Indian maledom, but the fact remains, Indians men are predatory little shits! They are mommy's little boys who they still can't find a wife of their own - they need their mommies to find one for them. "Sexually repressd society", somone wrote here - that would be the understatement of the year, if not the milllenia. As for staring, Indians seem to think that the ultimate flattery and sign of sophistication - the more glaring the stare the higly they think of you or something like that.
Bodh
Springfield, United States
Jan 26, 2008 12:00 AM
4
>> Why do Indian men behave so badly with foreign women?

They behave equally badly with Indian women.

>> We are much more civilised. We just don't allow them to walk safely on our streets.

There are cultured Indians, and then there are the rest.

>> Tourists are more vulnerable.

Besides the white skin, there is the Estee Lauder makeup, and the Donna Karan attire. Perhaps all Western women are seen as being nymphomaniacs!
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
Jan 25, 2008 12:00 AM
3
A useless article.
Sasi KC
Reston, United States
Jan 25, 2008 12:00 AM
2
I read the Article, SASI KC. Why is it useless. Is it because it shows some Indian Males in correct light?.

We need to develop moral courage among Indians. I am trying my best since the past Five Years or so but to little avail.
Joseph
Karachi, Pakistan
Jan 25, 2008 12:00 AM
1
I read the Article, SASI KC. Why is it useless. Is it because it shows some Indian Males in correct light?.

We need to develop moral courage among Indians. I am trying my best since the past Five Years or so but to little avail.
Joseph
Karachi, Pakistan
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