Jitender Gupta
Review
An Aria Of Darkness
Naipaul's new book traverses old ground, his journey unto himself is but an ego trip, the sharp edge of his writing has turned bitter. Where's VS as we knew him?
A Writer`s People—Ways Of Seeing And Feeling
A Writer`s People—Ways Of Seeing And Feeling
By V.S. Naipaul
Picador
Pages: 186; Rs: 395
Few would deny that V.S. Naipaul was once one of the most important, innovative and interesting writers of Indian origin; he was also, from the late 1950s until the mid-1980s, one of the towering figures of post-colonial literature the world over, in any language.

Naipaul's early work remains his lightest and most easily accessible and enjoyable. His comic novels set in Port of Spain and the small Caribbean villages nearby, like Chaguanas where he had grown up, opened up a new world to non-Caribbean readers in the late '50s.

 
 
As Philip Roth has so dramatically shown, old age need not mean the end of a great writer. Naipaul, in contrast, has died as a writer.
 
 
The Mystic Masseur, The Suffrage of Elvira and Miguel Street are all warm and wryly amusing books, full of life, humour and original first-hand observation of a place.

Here was a completely innovative voice, and one that represented the beginning of the great shift in ethnicity and vision in English letters—the Empire writing back, as Pico Iyer would later call it—that would eventually see the triumph of writers such as Salman Rushdie, Ben Okri, Zadie Smith, Arundhati Roy and Kiran Desai. Little of this would have been possible without the groundwork put in by Naipaul, building on the foundations laid by R.K. Narayan, Mulk Raj Anand and Ahmed Ali. At his best, Naipaul's prose was distinguished by its startling clarity and precision, its spare and deceptive simplicity, and its penetrating directness and honesty.

During the 1960s and 1970s, Naipaul's work deepened and darkened. A House for Mr Biswas is rightly recognised as one of the epics of post-colonial literature, albeit a deeply depressing one. In his travel writing, New York Review of Books essays and novels of the period—The Overcrowded Barracoon, India: A Wounded Civilisation, A Bend in the River—Naipaul shed his earlier joie de vivre and began to assume the persona of a post-colonial Conrad, coolly and perceptively examining the painful wounds on the human psyche—those hearts of darkness—left by European colonialism, exposing at the same time the mutual corruption of the coloniser and the colonised.

Here Naipaul was at his very best: the detached outsider, struggling to understand, taking the time to go to even the most remote places and talk to people, to chip away at them and their illusions. Then he would expose them with their own words, and their confused and contradictory thoughts, before pinning them to the page with the cool detachment of a Victorian butterfly collector. Even when one strongly disagreed with his views or politics—such as his relentless negative assessment of life in the Islamic world, or his positive spin on Hindutva and tacit support for the destruction of the Babri Masjid—it was impossible to deny the power of his writing.

From the mid-'80s, however, as he grew older and grander, Sir Vidia became more and more self-absorbed, and increasingly made himself his own favourite subject. First in Finding the Centre, then in The Enigma of Arrival, and thereafter in numerous non-fiction essays and fragments of autobiography—A Way in the World, A Writer and the World, Literary Occasions, Reading and Writing—Naipaul came increasingly to turn his vision inwards. He wrote of the trials and struggles he endured as a young writer trying to find his voice, of his "jangling nerves", the "pain" of his creativity.

Naipaul's new book, A Writer's People, continues to mine this now-familiar seam of his struggles and influences, but with ever-diminishing returns. There is still the odd flash of the old brilliance, but the constant emphasis on his pain and anxiety seems increasingly overdone: after all, Naipaul had family in London who put him up while he wrote; he was never hungry or without income; his books had immediate success, and he was immediately and warmly welcomed into the Republic of Letters. Many writers have much more painful beginnings.

There is, in fact, very little in this book that we have not heard before: we have already read at some length about his scorn for the "half-made" society of the Caribbean, of the example of his father's writing, his views of Gandhi, and of Nirad Chaudhuri, and so on. All that is really new here is the relentlessness of his self-obsession; and the now-comprehensive nature of his contempt for everyone and everything he writes about.

Naipaul was once a penetrating and unpredictable literary critic, but here criticism has been reduced to a series of spiky provocations ("personal prejudice can be amusing in the autobiographical mode," he writes) interspersed with brisk assassination attempts on every one of the perceived rivals who he writes about: A Passage to India has "no meaning"; Walcott grew "stagnant" after his first book ("his inspiration had gone and he was now marking time"); Waugh is "mannered (and) flippant... with nothing to write about, except, in the end, his own breakdown"; Anthony Powell's writing is "over-explained... there was no narrative skill" and his characters are "one-dimensional"; Nirad Chaudhuri is "vain and mad"; Henry James writes only "sweet nothings"; Philip Larkin is "a minor poet"; Flaubert after Madame Bovary descended into "artificiality" and wrote "bad nineteenth century fiction". And on it goes.

Naipaul's view of the places that moulded him are no less sour: Trinidad "had nothing that could be called a civilisation, no great architecture...no memory of style or splendour" and was ultimately a "spiritual emptiness"; Oxford students were "provincial and mean and common"; India has "no autonomous intellectual life" and its fiction, successful though it may be, is still largely mimicry and "imitation".

In small doses this is all amusing in a curmudgeonly grumpy-grandfather sort of way; but at length it is first tedious, then actually distasteful. Naipaul's theme in the book is about "vision, a way of seeing and feeling"; yet in this work, more than ever, Sir Vidia is blinded by his own ego and prejudices, and much of what he writes is simply lazy, mean-minded and frequently offensive nonsense: this is especially true when he writes with deep contempt of the "Bible-crazed Negro" of his Caribbean upbringing.

More surprisingly, Naipaul's discussion of Gandhi is superficial and dull; far more can be learned about this complex and oddly elusive man in the introductory passage of Kathryn Tidrick's brilliant new biography than the two repetitive chapters Naipaul produces here.

Likewise, Naipaul's assertion that India has no independent intellectual life or literary criticism is simply demonstrably wrong: the universities in India are buzzing with the same vibrant life as one sees today in Indian commerce, and the country is exporting academics at an unprecedented rate to Oxbridge and the Ivy League, exactly as its software companies are exporting their engineers to Silicon Valley. In Biblio, India has a literary journal that compares favourably in many ways with the tls or the lrb. Moreover, India now hosts two major literary festivals; new bookshops and publishing houses are opening at an amazing speed across the country; new writers continue to emerge (quicker than the old ones can emigrate); and the number of books published, bought and read here is increasing exponentially, not only in English but in a variety of Indian languages, especially Marathi, Malayalam, Hindi and Bengali.

Ultimately, A Writer's People is an indulgent grand old man's book: meandering, ponderous and pedantic, full of narcissism and touchy self-regard; it is as if Naipaul's famous Olympian disdain has finally left him exhausted—the acidity of his own derision now makes him write contemptuously even of those he once loved and admired.

There is a tragedy here. As Philip Roth has so dramatically shown, old age need not mean the end of a great writer's productivity. Humility, energy and ambition can still spur even the finest writer to attempt to scale ever greater peaks. Naipaul, in contrast, has died as a writer: the more he writes about his calling, the more impotent his pen seems to have become. The wisdom, the warmth, the humour and, above all, the compassion have all gone from the prose; and what we are left with now is only the bitter and desiccated husk of that once lively, warm and surprising writer from the village outside Port of Spain.


(William Dalrymple's latest book, The Last Mughal: The Fall of a Dynasty, Delhi 1857, published by Penguin India, has just been awarded the Duff Cooper Prize for History.)

 
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HAVE YOUR SAY
May 18, 2008 12:00 AM
78
Thomasmid/Bagai,

>> That Faruki a rabid muslim hates Naipaul for his
best works...

I do not hate Naipaul, you idiot. I like him for his best works, namely his novels. A bigot like you of course has to seek what suits your hate agenda.
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
May 17, 2008 12:00 AM
77
" Asked about V. S. Naipaul, Trinidadians often mention not his books, but their belief that he has jilted the country."


http://www.nytimes.com/...tel-t.html?8bu&emc=bub1
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
Oct 04, 2007 12:00 AM
76
Ganpat/Bagai,

>> You are the defender of the faith in this forum.

I am a critic of bigotism rather than a defender of the faith. It is your 24/7 obsession with Islam and Muslims that is sick.
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
Oct 04, 2007 12:00 AM
75
Ganpat/Bagai,

>> However the point is what would happen if by
a miracle, all Hindus would leave India. This means also the Bajrangis, Sanghi,s and the BJP.
Also the Congress wallahs.

You write such a long and stupid post on an idiotic hypothetical! Are you 12 years old?
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
Oct 04, 2007 12:00 AM
74
Ganpat/Bagai,

>> You assume that all people opposed to your prophet and Islam are bigots.

You are either a liar or an idiot.

>> why do muslims want to live with nonmuslims.

You are so boring with your repetitions of inanities that no one else would stoop to utter.

>> The Pakistan ambassador once told me that he was fed up of the many Pakistani,s who were in trouble.

Just as I am fed up with Indians like you.

>> You have taken a tough job of being a PR manager for Islam and muslims. It is not working.

My job is to roil bigots. It is working.
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
Oct 04, 2007 12:00 AM
73
Ganpat/Bagai,

>> Assumeing the Hindu bigots left, India would become the mirror image of Pakistan.

You think Pakistan is a bigotless country? There are many bigots like yourself in Pakistan.

>> 'The same goes for all of us cultured and well
educated nonmuslims. We do not want to live in muslims countries and muslim societies.'

Another of your brainless pronouncements. There are cultured and well-educated Muslims in Muslim societies, Hindu societies and Western societies. Stop this obsession with Muslims, Muslims, Muslims all the time!
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
Oct 02, 2007 12:00 AM
72
Ganpat,

>> If the muslims left then that will be a big relief for the rest of India.

If Muslim bigots and Hindu bigots like you left India it would be a big relief.
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
Oct 02, 2007 12:00 AM
71
Ganpat/Bagai,

>> I agree that we can not move out the muslims.

But your pet theories of mass movement of people to get ethnic purity persist. I would have called you Hitler, but you are too stupid to be called Hitler.
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
Oct 02, 2007 12:00 AM
70
Ganpat/Bagai,

>> If we want to enrich the cultural life lets bring in European, Chinese or other Eastern cultures. Let Vinod Mehta seek his Islamic paradise in Lahore or Islamabad. Along with GF
and other muslim ikons.

The Bagai Plan : Move out 150 million Muslims out of India. Bring in 80 million Chinese, 20 million Japanese, 20 million Koreans and 30 million Europeans. And live happily everafter!

The moron!
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
Oct 02, 2007 12:00 AM
69
Parbat,

>> morose morbid "Indian" "Muslims", who are only slaveringly sycophantic, cut-price Arabs - look at Ghulam Faruki.

Look at you, a cynic who does not believe in anything except shooting darts at everyone. You arer a disgrace.
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
Oct 01, 2007 12:00 AM
68
Varun Shekar:

Just a matter of curiousity.

You are always griping about how the East Asians don't know anything about our gigagntic genius Hindu culture that has given the world so much more than anybody else ever did.....

How much do Hindus know about East Asian novels, poetry, art etc?

I often stay in Vancouver, a city that has a huge East Asian population, and am always delighted to be among Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Vietnamese, Filipinos. They are so modest, hardworking, easy-going folk. They NEVER boast about the gigantic genius grandeur of their culture, unlike Hindus.

Their women are fabulous, too, with their smooth silken skins.

Give me East Asians over barking burping Hindus, everty time. Or morose morbid "Indian" "Muslims", who are only slaveringly sycophantic, cut-price Arabs - look at Ghulam Faruki.
Parbat Laldeng
Denver, United States
Sep 25, 2007 12:00 AM
67
>> I was talking about this forum. Are you talking about this forum?

I was just giving a more balanced perspective. Reactions to his books and award have been extreme on both ends. You chose to highlight only one.

Since you brought it up on this forum, I am presenting the other side too here.
Al Bundy
San Francisco, United States
Sep 25, 2007 12:00 AM
66
>> Per them, he didn't deserve it as a writer.

I was talking about this forum. Are you talking about this forum?
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
Sep 25, 2007 12:00 AM
65
>> And yet this is what has made him a god in the eyes of the bigots in this forum, who never mention his earlier great novels and travel books.

Actually, if anything, the shoe is on the other foot. I remember that when the award was announced, the usual party poopers all came out with the expected conspiracy theories, that it was a conspiracy by the West against Islam. Per them, he didn't deserve it as a writer.
Al Bundy
San Francisco, United States
Sep 22, 2007 12:00 AM
64
>>GF is fairly adept at writeing English, so its
>>surpriseing that he has not convinced even some in this forum that he is a true liberal and a patriotic Indian.

Ganpat
I am not sure about GF's credentials as a Muslim liberal but I am very sure he is as patriotic as you and I are if not more.
I remember GF flaunting his Indian identity with pride.
Your writings are enjoyable to a certain level, once you start making your conclusions on GF’s behalf your posts starts loosing sense.
Wunder
dubai, United Arab Emirates
Sep 22, 2007 12:00 AM
63
>> No it is a free place to insult other's Religeon !

Something I have never done. However insulting Islam is quite a common occurrence in this forum.
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
Sep 22, 2007 12:00 AM
62
""Do you think this is some kind of Spanish Inquisition where I have to answer questions posed by a bigot like you? ""

No it is a free place to insult other's Religeon !
a k ghai
mumbai, India
Sep 22, 2007 12:00 AM
61
J,

>> When confronted with tough questions about Islam ...

Do you think this is some kind of Spanish Inquisition where I have to answer questions posed by a bigot like you?
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
Sep 20, 2007 12:00 AM
60
Ganpat/Bagai,

>> GF and many muslims claim that they are moderate and liberal.

Without any reference to context, this dope comes up with his trite banality which he has already repeated about 100 times before. It must be morning in Denmark!
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
Sep 20, 2007 12:00 AM
59
William Dalrymple is doubly right and he is not unfair to Sir Vidia. The diminishing returns are also due to Sir Vidia assuming the mantle of opinion maker for the whole world.
Soundararajan
S. Soundararajan
Portsmouth, United Kingdom
Sep 20, 2007 12:00 AM
58
Ganpat/Bagai,

>> Naipauls principle works for which he got the nobel prize(this is my opinion ) were the two books on Islam. That is what he is best known for.

Both your statements are false.
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
Sep 20, 2007 12:00 AM
57
Ganpat/Bagai,

>> Amazeingly he can dismiss the irrationality of all other religions then Islam, but believes firmly in the fables of his own religion.


What an ugly hate-filled post. You are truly from the gutter. Are you idiot enough not to know that I have never mentioned any of those fables. For you to presume to know what I believe in and what I don't believe in takes a lot of cheek and gall. Moreover I have never called anything in Hinduism "irrational". If I ridicule Seshadri's fanciful theories, that does not mean I am ridiculing Hinduism. If I question whether Jesus's body really disappeared from the cave, it is in the midst of recent TV stories that Jesus's grave had been discovered by Peter Cameron, and leaders of the Church saying that such a discovery, even if true, would not affect Christian theology in any way.

It seems that your bag of arguments is so empty that all you can do now is throw mud! You are a despicable pest.
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
Sep 20, 2007 12:00 AM
56
Ganpat/Bagai,

>> If you have experience vastly different from
Naipauls then publish a book.

I am probably more of a Naipaul fan than you are. It is your cherry-picking the anti-Muslim stuff from his writings to suit your small-minded agenda that is obnoxious.
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
Sep 20, 2007 12:00 AM
55
Ganpat/Bagai,

>> The way to evaluate an opinion on any issue is whether its true or incorrect.

We already know that your opinions are unbalanced, one-sided and hateful.
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
Sep 20, 2007 12:00 AM
54
Shivaji/Bodepudi,

>> based on the criminal ideology of Us vs the Infidels!

That is your ideology today. Shame on you!
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
Sep 20, 2007 12:00 AM
53
He was answering your assertion that Naipaul was writing from pure prejudice. Naipaul had actually been to 4 Moslem majority countries, and his remarks on Islam come from direct experience.
Varun Shekhar
Toronto, CANADA
Sep 20, 2007 12:00 AM
52
Ganpat/Bagai,

>> Unlike uou Naipaul travelled to 4 muslims countries, Iran, Pakistan, Malaysia and Indonesia.

You do not know what countries I have visited. If you have nothing new to say, why do you keep bringing up the same stuff again and again and again? You are so boring!
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
Sep 19, 2007 12:00 AM
51
"Shame! Shame!" GHULAM/GOEBBELS

Shame shame for defending and SUPPORTING the Islamic barbarians who killed tens of millions of INNOCENT Indics in cold blood, based on the criminal ideology of Us vs the Infidels! Shame on you spending rest of your life defending the fascist ideology
Shivaji
Nalanda, India
Sep 19, 2007 12:00 AM
50
Ganpat/Bagai,

>> All who criticise muslims are considered prejudiced by you and other muslims.

I make a distinction between objective crticism and spiteful criticism. People who see problems of Muslims as part of an adaptational phase which other religions have gone through too are different from those who see their own religion and culture as being perfect and as always having been perfect and see Islam as being incurably flawed and deserving of derision. Absence of due acknowledgement of historical achievements and positive contributions of Muslims is another feature that distinguishes enemies from unbiased critics.

Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
Sep 19, 2007 12:00 AM
49
Ganpat this is GF bashing.
Wunder
dubai, United Arab Emirates
Sep 19, 2007 12:00 AM
48
Shivaji/Bodepudi,

>> But not to the Islamo fanatics like Ghulam.

This from a bigot who is posting hate messages day and night, trying to demonize a whole community!!! Shame! Shame!
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
Sep 19, 2007 12:00 AM
47
"His only objectionable writings are those that appeal to bigots like yourself." Ghulam/Goebbels

But not to the Islamo fanatics like Ghulam-quite understandable

Shivaji
Nalanda, India
Sep 19, 2007 12:00 AM
46
Ganpat/Bagai,

>> V S Naipaul has been knighted and has been awarded the Nobel prize for literature.

I have said several times already that his earlier work is great, so why do you keep coming back with the same rehash? His only objectionable writings are those that appeal to bigots like yourself.
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
Sep 19, 2007 12:00 AM
45
Well said Mr Ganpat Ram...and that too with splendid clarity.

Ghulam pretends to be a liberal, but he is a hardcore champion of his faith and will brook no cricism of Islam.

Thanks for exposing him again and again ..

Don't bother with him ..let this thick-skinned cretin's head be buried in the desert sands of Arabia -he prefers it that way.

Reason and the "revealed (now much reviled) faith", alas, do not go hand in hand. Period.
Rohit Choudhary
London, UK
Sep 18, 2007 12:00 AM
44
I agree with Varun's assessment of Naipaul. In my view Naipaul is a great writer because he is a great observer of people and is extremely adept at understanding his subjects. Though of Indian origin, he grew up in Trinidad, and lived mostly in Britain. Hence his keen observations on Indians -- especially of south Indians -- comes as a surprise for their remarkable accuracy. Considering that even pretentious India-born Indian authors can't get our cultural nuances right, and in fact try and fit their understanding of India into western stereotypes, Naipaul's insights come across as strikingly remarkable for their truthfulness and accuracy. Recall also that Naipaul predicted the tide of Islamic fundamentalism that is upon us today as far back as three decades ago. ("Among the Believers").

Naipaul is an Indian who won the world's appreciation on his own terms and merits, he didn't need to suck up to whites. I think that pisses of Dalrymple types.

Narsing Gowd
Secunderabad, India
Sep 18, 2007 12:00 AM
43
Ganpat/Bagai,

>> You may consider his views prejudiced of course.

They are prejudiced and one-sided. That is precisely why he has become such a god for hate-mongers like yourself.

Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
Sep 18, 2007 12:00 AM
42
Naipaul is one of the greatest living writers, possibly THE greatest.His "A house for Mr. Biswas" is actually considered one of the top 100 novels of the 20th century. Why then, is he such a stranger to the vast multitudes of people. Is it that the majority like Tom Clancy and Mary Higgins Clark, not higher literature like Naipaul's? East Asians are particularly awful in this regard. Considering Naipaul is both eminent and of Asian descent, you would expect Filipinos, Chinese, Koreans, Japanese and Thais to know about him, at the very least. But his name draws a blank. They will not say "Ah yes, Naipaul, the writer of Indian origin who won the nobel a few years ago, and has written books on a variety of topics, mostly politics and history in the developing world" Why are people so small? It's so annoying.
Varun Shekhar
Toronto, CANADA
Sep 18, 2007 12:00 AM
41
If this Dalrymple is so fond of Moghul era things, why doesn't he spend his time in Pakistan.There, he can have almost 100% Moslem presence, and can find like-minded people who agree with his perception that the Moghuls were the greatest people on Earth. In India, it's very difficult, if not impossible, to sell that idea.
Varun Shekhar
Toronto, CANADA
Sep 18, 2007 12:00 AM
40
Ganpat/Bagai,

>> Who are the people who attack Naipaul. They are a motley band of Islamists and their sympathisers, non known for any creativeness,
or intellect.

Wrong again, but what can one expect from a moron like you? Everybody admires Naipaul's novels and travelogues. His prejudiced writings on Islam and his holding the people of the third world as inferior have been criticized by many, including Dalrymple and Theroux.
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
Sep 18, 2007 12:00 AM
39
What feebleness on Dalryomple's part to bleat about Naipaul's dimissal of other great writers.

So what?

If Dalrymple aws not an illiterate he would have known that great writers are notorious for failing to appreciate each other's work. They are often too committed to their own ways of writing to see the value of completely different methods.

Tolstoy despised Dostoevsky's work and vice versa.

Nabokov dismissed Dostoevsky as a "double fake". Also Balzac. Also Hemingway.

Hemingway despised Thomas Mann. As did Nabokov ("a tower or triteness, Mann".)

Nabokov dismissed Tagore; Tagore dismissed "Anna Karenina".

Tolstoy despised Shakespeare ("pitiable lack of imagination, elementary mistakes").

Conrad found Tolstoy and Dostoevsky unreadable.

And so it goes.
Parbat Laldeng
Denver, United States
Sep 18, 2007 12:00 AM
38
Who says NDA is Anti-Muslims :

""Orissa for Islamic laws for Muslim women :

Bhubaneswar, Sept 17: Distressed Muslim women in Orissa may not get any help from the law against domestic violence as the Orissa Government likes to follow Islamic laws in their cases.

The state Government would like to go by Islamic laws as “we need not enter into controversies by entertaining cases relating to Muslim women,” Women and Child Development Minister Pramilla Mallick said on

Monday.

Mallick said the Government faced opposition from the Muslim community when it tried to intervene when one Nazma Bibi’s husband wanted to withdraw talaq given in an inebriated state in Bhadrak last year. “The Government faced ire of the Muslims by trying to help Nazma Bibi.” Admitting that a large number of Muslim women also face violence, she said “what can we do? With Nazma’s experience, we will like to take steps with adequate precaution”

Iqrar happy ??
a k ghai
mumbai, India
Sep 18, 2007 12:00 AM
37
Naipaul "has died as a wrier", says Dalrymple.

Really?

Just because you find his harsh criticism of Islam hard to take?

Naipaul has his faults, but in his completely original, unafraid analysis of Islamist frenzy as much as 28 years ago, he has proved incredibly prophetic. Just compare his book, "Among the Believers", full of premonition of violent frenzies breaking over the world from the Islamist movement, with the anodyne, trite anayses of other writers at the time of the Iranian "revolution". They saw and felt nothing; their heads were filled with cheap PC rubbish.

But someone like Dalrymple who has amde a career of buttering up Islamist vandals and totalitarians - he is very good friends with Imran Khan, a ferocious Islamist - fainds naipaul embarassingly truthful.

Naipaul may indeed see something positive in Hindutva. Why should he not? Is that worse than seeing plenty positive in Islamic societies, as Dalrymple does?

Why is Dalrymple allowed to be friendly to Islamist states and politicians, but Naipaul banned from being friendly to Hinduist politicians?

If Muslim nationalism is OK for Muslims, why should Hindu nationalism be ruled out for Hindus?
Parbat Laldeng
Denver, United States
Sep 18, 2007 12:00 AM
36
Naipauls principle works have been about his travels in muslim countries. In these he said what others say now. The message is clear and
accurate. And it hurts the muslims who have read his books.


I dare say that none, even his wife are happy about it. This does not in any way detract from his genius. His earlier works are just the process of his development as an
author.
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we
ll said Ganpat.. Naipaul being a visionary could see these things twenty years back.. Ugly faced islamists don't like to shown mirror whihc Naipaul is doing..
Rahul
Delhi, India
Sep 18, 2007 12:00 AM
35
One of the muslims idiot once told me since prophet's sword was bent in certain way hence it was for defensive war.. I just said go ask those BAnu Quraiza guys they will tell you what his sword was for..
Rahul
Delhi, India
Sep 18, 2007 12:00 AM
34
I didn;t go beyond the name Willium Dalrymple .. Naipaul's work being assessed by an islmist author well we all know what he wud jot down.
Rahul
Delhi, India
Sep 18, 2007 12:00 AM
33
"Islam is an alien ideology that killed tens of millions of Indics" Shiva

"Now is that your defense for calling for the murder of Muslim priests and demolition of mosques?" Goebbels

There's IRREFUTABLE facts of Islamic genocides and of Islamic destruction of Hindu and Buddhist shrines in India. It happened because Islam was and is an ideology of intolerance, bloodshed and hatred. Therefore, we want it out of India especially since the jihadi fanatics stole our lands, killed our people and looted our wealth.

You want to divert the Indic attention because you are so sure of the support from the "Secular" frauds and "politically correct" fantatics. You are promoting and supporting the terror cells in the US (CAIR) with the Wahabi support.

All the above will be discussed endlessly until people are AWARE of the INEVITABLE dangers from Islam and take ACTION against it, PROACTIVELY, for a change
Shivaji
Nalanda, India
Sep 18, 2007 12:00 AM
32
Shivaji/Bodepudi,

>> Islam is an alien ideology that killed tens of millions of Indics

Now is that your defense for calling for the murder of Muslim priests and demolition of mosques? You argue like a psychopath, a man without any conscience.
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
Sep 18, 2007 12:00 AM
31
"agree with that, but you had clearly said that mullahs should be killed and mosques demolished, so don't try to lie yourself out of it." Ghulam//Goebbels

Proof!

Islam is an alien ideology that killed tens of millions of Indics and It's INHERENTLY anti-Human, anti-Hindu and anti-peace. Therefore, it's spread should be checked by closing down ALL Mosques in India and peaceful Mullahs (if any) sent to Haj, with one way tickets
Shivaji
Nalanda, India
Sep 18, 2007 12:00 AM
30
>> credit for being such a steadfast apologist for, and defender of the baddies of Islamic.

You lie again, but you are a hit and run driver, so I will not say anything more!
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
Sep 17, 2007 12:00 AM
29
Shivaji/Bodepudi,

>> reeducate Muslim masses and reconvert them back, into humanity.

You are no better than those Afghan bigots!
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
Sep 17, 2007 12:00 AM
28
One has to at least give this Ghulam credit for being such a steadfast apologist for, and defender of the baddies of Islamic. Maybe his unceasing efforts may finally be recognized and help sway the likes of Osama and his merry band of terrorists to finally see the light and show respect for other faiths - to live and let live, rather than 'live like I want you to, or I kill you'?
Bodh
Springfield, United States
Sep 17, 2007 12:00 AM
27
Shivaji/Bodepudi,

>> Those linked to terrorism (Bin Laden) ought to be eliminated.

I agree with that, but you had clearly said that mullahs should be killed and mosques demolished, so don't try to lie yourself out of it. Terrorists should be killed either in an armed encounter or by hanging.
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
Sep 17, 2007 12:00 AM
26
While one must commend Dalrymple for his gift of the gab, one must also be equally mindful of his fetishes and biases, epecially his pro-Muslim bent, al la his "The Last Mughal".
It could just be that, now in his golden years, Naipual just couldn't give a toss about what people thinks of him, so he now feels free to say what he's always wanted to, but dared not, especially with the added bonus of him being 'Sir' Naipual and all that jazz. After all, one expects the elderly to catankerous old grouches.
"A House for Mr Biswas" though, is still my favorite.
Bodh
Springfield, United States
Sep 17, 2007 12:00 AM
25
Ganpat/Bagai,

>> I support Shiva. Some mullahs need to be killed. I have heard some of these hateful swine on TV calling for the murdrer of infidels. They are the real hate mongers.

Yes, those mullahs are as bad hate-mongers as yourself and Shiva/Bodepudi. They should be arrested and tried. But there is already too much vigilante justice in India, with people taking law in their own hands as the following editorial shows :


http://203.197.197.71/p...editorial/mob-fury.aspx
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
Sep 17, 2007 12:00 AM
24
Afghan Sikhs protest after Muslims stop cremation
KABUL, SEPT 17 (AFP)
//One of the Sikh protesters, Diah Singh Anjan, told AFP dozens of villagers had issued threats as the cremation was being prepared at a temple in the south of the city.

"The villagers tried to stop us and threatened us with death," he said.

This is fascism at its worst. Imagine India had donated nearly a Billion Dollars to these fanatic, bigots. A World Wide coalition MUST close the centres of terror and reeducate Muslim masses and reconvert them back, into humanity


Shivaji
Nalanda, India
Sep 17, 2007 12:00 AM
23
"Those wanting to know the 'real' Naipaul might find Theroux's account fuller in flesh and blood." Walter

Naipaul's literary talent and the associated kudos are of least importance, for the Hindus. What's infinitely more beneficial were his insights on converted peoples into Islam and how when one tradition wipes out the other, as Islam had done-of how human tragedies stalk peoples in those lands, perpetually. The insights he offered were no different than what the solution offered by the Dalai Lama- let Muslims enjoy their tradition in the Arabic lands-The Indics in India-Christians in Europe with no trying trying to destroy others' traditions (as Islam had done, genocidally, and still does)
Shivaji
Nalanda, India
Sep 17, 2007 12:00 AM
22
"You are perpetually after Shiva for saying "mosques could be demolished and a few mullahs killed." GR

Goebbels was challenged to quote where "Mullahs should be killed" was recommended. Those linked to terrorism (Bin Laden) ought to be eliminated, in self defense, as the Allies had done during the Second War.

Regarding Mosques" I fully support CLOSING them and CONVERTING them into community halls for educating the Mullahs and the Goebbels/Ghulams. Since REFORM and REEDUCATION is a millennial project, Hindus can not depend on these measures as they will be a minority in a few short decades.

WHAT's TO BE DONE

A multi million defense forces will occupy all Mosques and convert them into re-education centers, peacefully. Those who resist shall be sent to Muslim countries or t their Holy Land, with one-way tickets.

Hindus CAN NOT accept an ideology that killed tens of millions of their brothers and sisters and that will ethnically cleanse them out, in their own land-as Islam had done in the Middle East, West Asia and North Africa. The nororious Jizya Tax on the Infidels should be studued in depth and it forced hundreds of millions of them to convert to Islam, those that survived
the Islamic holocausts. A more humane tax on all Muslims in India should be imposed based on family size and attendance at the local terror centers and on those who force veils on women




Shivaji
Nalanda, India
Sep 17, 2007 12:00 AM
21
I wuld be careful in making sweeping generalizations about a country as vast and multi-layered as India i.e the idea that Indians retire from active life at 55-60, whereas Westerns continue to enjoy life well beyond that. India is a country in flux, one may say permanent flux. The "West" isn't all one. Are the UK and the US, exactly the same as Portugal, Greece and Spain, whic are all technically part of the "West" ?
Varun Shekhar
Toronto, CANADA
Sep 17, 2007 12:00 AM
20
Walter, you shuld read, no doubt among others, Tavleen Singh's review of Theroux' whine about Naipaul. Doesn't reflect well on Theroux. Naipaul is known and respected for his literary talents as well as his historical insights. Whether or not he's the nicest, sweetest guy on the planet should not really concern the reading public.
Varun Shekhar
Toronto, CANADA
Sep 17, 2007 12:00 AM
19
Ghulam

Naipaul is now old and I think no longer at his best.

But he made one think, which hardly any Indian writer or even Western writer does today....they are all too scared to condemn Islamism as it should be condemned for the dangerous barbarism it is.

If Naipaul is a bit repetitive and erratic now, Dalrymple is just a vacuous clown, specialising in pouring sickly treacle ove Islamic nihilism in India. A pygmy pulling faces at a giant.
Parbat Laldeng
Denver, United States
Sep 17, 2007 12:00 AM
18
Dalrymple's observations on Naipaul's current self-absorbed senescence and characterological turpitudes long pre-dating this current sketch were in much finer detail limned, the former implicitly predicted, in Paul Theroux's Sir Vidia's Shadow (1998), an account of friendship/mentorship betrayed. Those wanting to know the 'real' Naipaul might find Theroux's account fuller in flesh and blood.
walter
Kashiwa, Japan
Sep 17, 2007 12:00 AM
17
As exemplified by his book "India- A Wounded Civilization", Naipaul has understood many facets of our civilization really well. But his problem, like most Western analysts of India, is he does not read any Indian language. That is a big handicap because best of India has always been expressed in its native languages

I wish Naipaul read Marathi. If he did, he would read Vinoba Bhave's Marathi books and realize why, along with poet-saints, Vinoba is Marathi's rare 'best-seller' author.

Naipaul says "(In India) literary criticism is still hardly known as an art". This is far from the truth. He should care to read Dilip Chitre's book on Tukaram ("Punha Tukaram" which also is available in English) or Durga Bhagwat's commentary on Mahabharata ("Vyas Parva") or M V Dhond's criticism of B S Mardhekar's poetry ("Tarihi Yeto Vas Phulana") etc.

Naipaul says 'Indian writers to speak generally seem to know only about their own families and their places of work". This may be true of R K Narayan or Vikram Seth but not of Bhau Padhye- the original chronicler of Bombay (ahead of Vikram Chandra) in all its colours.

In the Nobel lecture on Dec 7, 2001, he said:"...I am near the end of my work now. I am glad to have done what I have done, glad creatively to have pushed myself as far as I could go. Because of the intuitive way in which I have written, and also because of the baffling nature of my material, every book has come as a blessing. Every book has amazed me; up to the moment of writing I never knew it was there. But the greatest miracle for me was getting started. I feel - and the anxiety is still vivid to me - that I might easily have failed before I began.".

This time he has failed even before he began.


http://searchingforlaugh.blogspot.com/
aniruddha g kulkarni
Pune, India
Sep 17, 2007 12:00 AM
16
Naipaul: Naipaul makes on think while you gag at the bile in his words and also feel oddly light headed at the clarity of his words. He is undisputedly a misanthropic, atheistic misogynist, let loose by his towering ability to string crystal words together, at sea in this large pool of filth called the world.
So while you gag, think of his own revulsion.
Dalrymple is right: Naipaul gets darker and uglier but not necessarily untrue with time.
I completely look forward to reading hate public assassination of Indian and other demi-gods by this great soothsayer of the repulsed.
Bindu Tandon
Mumbai, India
Sep 17, 2007 12:00 AM
15
"...because he had the guts to call a spade a spade..." VS

Doesn't it prove the spinelessness of the Hindu parties? They were supposed to lead Hindus out of fear and Islamic danger into FREEDOM. Why should some one, like Naipal, has to call a spade a spade? It shows how cowardly BJP-RSS are. How they had betrayed the Indics thus far.

1. The BJP/RSS need to get PERMANENTLY and COMPLETELY out of the vicious caste-centric Brahmanic influences as otherwise they will only speed up the Islamization of India. They know it fully and yet could not and would not take the plunge for leading India into perpetual freedom. How stupid and dangerous they are!
Shivaji
Nalanda, India
Sep 17, 2007 12:00 AM
14
>> It's a realisation that Moslems as a group are immature and unable to handle the microscope of historical scrutiny. There are no such serious concerns vis-a-vis Hindus.

With comments at this level of sophistication, the whole thing becomes just a joke.
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
Sep 17, 2007 12:00 AM
13
"Fancy a Jehadi like Ghulam Faruki calling others here bigots." Rohit Choudhary

1. Those who follow this medieval LAW that preaches hatred for the "OTHER" and that can never be amended, is infinitely worse than what Hitlers, Mussolinis, Tojos, Stalins, Maos, Pol Pots, Chenghiz Khans, and all other thugs had done, collectively-since they were TEMPORARY and all were gone, mercifully.

There's one R. James Woolsey (former CIA Director-1993-95) talking of Wahabi funding for CAIR in the US- talking on Saturday on C-Span 2- of how Wahabi fanatics practised (and still do) genocides against the Jews and Shias, in Saudi Arabia. CAIR is WAHABI-funded and is its mouth piece in the US.

2. Even if some one like Sita Ram Goel or KS Lal or the Father of Buddhism in the West, a Sikh Guru or Hindu spiritual leaders or Thai Buddhist Monks-and other TRUTH seekers-talked of Islamic geniocides in India-to the tune of 100 million killed, cumulatively, seems an exaggeration until you start digging deeper into the Islamic LAW and how these fanatics literally followed that LAW and genocidally killed hundreds of thousands, as recently as in 1947-and in Kashmir, even more recently.

3. Why not talk OPENLY of demographic imbalances that are mostrly the result of the LAW that discriminates against Muslim women? That perpetually feeds on keeping half of their humanity under veils-thus creating the population explosion-and contributing to premeditated Godhras?

4. These issues are not trivial and hence never PERSONAL- though the resident Goebbels cleverly DIVERTS attention away from Islamic demographics and its innate proclivity to terror based on its unchanging and unchangeable LAW that commands to kill the Hindus ("Infidels"),in their own land? Along with the Indics, the poor Muslims and the Muslim women are its worst victims. Therefore, VIOLENCE can never a sustainable solution, for this endemic problem.

5. Hindus need to defend themselves from being a minority in their own land by forming a Hindu Rashtra and making Islam a private affair to be practised at homes by a minority never to threaten in numbers-which led to ethnic cleansing of innumerable traditions in North Africa, Central Asia and the Middle East.

6. Just as the Saudi Arabia is the Holy Land for Muslims-so is India for the Hindus-Indics. This MUST be the slogan of the BJP-RSS. Otherwise, they should disband the party, convert to Islam and live under the veils, for ever.



Shivaji
Nalanda, India
Sep 17, 2007 12:00 AM
12
...because he had the guts to call a spade a spade...
It cannot be any serious dispute with the facts or historical record. It is purely fear of the Moslem reaction. It's a realisation that Moslems as a group are immature and unable to handle the microscope of historical scrutiny. There are no such serious concerns vis-a-vis Hindus.
Varun Shekhar
Toronto, CANADA
Sep 17, 2007 12:00 AM
11
Shiva/Bodepudi,

>> Reaction is always DEFENSIVE and, hopefully, peaceful. In extreme cases It's always DEFINED by the ACTION.

That's why you are called a liar. You change your story as soon as you are caught. That's exactly what you tried to do when you were caught calling for the murder of priests and destruction of places of worship. Just remember, you can't fool all the people all the time.
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
Sep 17, 2007 12:00 AM
10

Fancy a Jehadi like Ghulam Faruki calling others here bigots. Sir Vidia has been treated with cold indifference and great efforts made by Indian pseudo-secularists to deny and belittle his brilliant writing precisely because he had the guts (and couldn't be bothered if he was not a toast to the secular pseuds)to call a spade a spade.

Therefore, his observations on the devasatation brought to India, esp. the north, by the depredations of the Islamic invaders.

Dalrymple of course doesn't have that courage -and more importantly - is more worried about the moolah. He can hardly gain acceptance with the pseudo secular brigade if he critices Islam -both past and present.

Then only the pseudo secu Indian English media would write glowing reviews of his books ..and his books bought due to the publicity and exposure Dalrymple got for free.

Not a bad way to earn your bread and butter ..I wonder what that other British expat Mark Tully is doing these. Still making a living out of and in India?
Rohit Choudhary
London, UK
Sep 17, 2007 12:00 AM
9
"You must spell out how massive and how bloody you want the reaction to be." Ghulam/Goebbels

That's why you are called a Goebbels, most aptly. Reaction is always DEFENSIVE and, hopefully, peaceful. In extreme cases It's always DEFINED by the ACTION (as the Allies did during the Second War).

Hindus are a peace loving people trying to live in their own land, free from the fear of Islamic terror. They are only trying to protect what't THEIRS"-and what's left after their lands were stolen, men killed, women raped and wealth looted.

What ever you say on behalf of Hindu Killers is falling on the deaf ears. You are a proven fascist and a congenital bigot-INCURABLE!
Shivaji
Nalanda, India
Sep 16, 2007 12:00 AM
8
Shiva/Bodepudi,

>> equating Islamic genocides to the feeble and belated Hindu Reaction-as in Godhra.

You must spell out how massive and how bloody you want the reaction to be. A psychopathic murderer like you who has openly advocated killing people right here in this forum is a poor spokemen for any community.

Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
Sep 16, 2007 12:00 AM
7
It's far worse than comparing Nazis to their victims. Pseudo "Secular", "Politically Correct"left-Congress-Muslim combine is bent on spreading this falsehood-equating Islamic genocides to the feeble and belated Hindu Reaction-as in Godhra.

Sita Ram Goel and KS Lal and countless others had given estimates of INNOCENT Indics killed during the Islamic terror campaigns, since 712, at over 80 million Indics killed, not counting the millions of Buddhists in Afganistan, Persia and in Central Asia.

It's the Noble Obligation and the SACRED duty of the BJP and the RSS to collect FACTS of Islamic horrors in India and disseminate WIDELY, without delay. This should be done not out of fear (timidity and ignorance) but out of their self-chosen responsibiliy to make the Indics FULLY AWARE of the INEVITBLE Danger to their very existence.

No question of appeasment here since the VEY SURVIVAL of HINDUIM is at stake, as aptly demonstrated only few days ago

Shivaji
Nalanda, India
Sep 16, 2007 12:00 AM
6
It would be very interesting to read Dalrymple's explanation of the partition of India in 1947, and the violence that accompanied it. What is his take on the Great Calcutta Killing, the NWFP riots in 1946, and the horrible killings in Punjab between March and August 1947, which preceded the more well known massacres of August and September. I have my own suspicions on this one, and I would love to be proved wrong. My guess is that Dalrymple would follow the well worn path of saying "both sides" were guilty, and that partition itself could have been avoided if the Congress gave in to each and every demand of Jinnah and the league, without so much as a thought. Good grief! But then again, I hope I'm wrong about Dalrymple.
Varun Shekhar
Toronto, CANADA
Sep 16, 2007 12:00 AM
5
"his positive spin on Hindutva and tacit support for the destruction of the Babri Masjid...."

Are his great achievements, though feeble and muted
Shiva
San Jose, United States
Sep 16, 2007 12:00 AM
4
"his positive spin on Hindutva and tacit support for the destruction of the Babri Masjid...."

Hindus are facing EVENTUAL extinction in India with Muslim population explosion and Islamic terrorism. Naipaul's defense of Hinduism, though little and perhaps too late, has to be admired by true Hindus. "Hindutva" is a word coined by the "secular" fascists in concert with Muslim fanatics who are hell bent on destroying Hindus from their only land of birth-through unchercked Muslim population explosion and unending Islamic terror
Shiva
San Jose, United States
Sep 16, 2007 12:00 AM
3
Amusing. William Dalrymple performs exactly what he accuses Naipaul of, a brisk "assassination attempt". It would be interesting to know what that could be attributed to; William is not much of an old man yet, or is he?
Ankan Kumar
Columbus, USA
Sep 16, 2007 12:00 AM
2
Apart from the sniping at Naipaul's sympathy toward Hindutva, this was a really good review by Dalrymple, one of the few articles by him that didn't induce a frown. His other essays where he defends the record of Islamic invaders are wishy washy at best, offensive at worst.
Varun Shekhar
Toronto, CANADA
Sep 15, 2007 12:00 AM
1
"... one strongly disagreed with his (Naipaul's) views or politics—such as his relentless negative assessment of life in the Islamic world, or his positive spin on Hindutva and tacit support for the destruction of the Babri Masjid...."

And yet this is what has made him a god in the eyes of the bigots in this forum, who never mention his earlier great novels and travel books. As Dalrymple says, Naipaul has become "blinded by his own ego and prejudices, and much of what he writes is simply lazy, mean-minded and frequently offensive nonsense." These qualities of being arrogant and prejudiced have also been depicted in a very humorous way by the novelist and travel writer Paul Theroux in his book "Sir Vidia's Shadow".
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
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