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The Unreported Attacks
The first attack on Taslima Nasrin ended when the police arrived at the Press Club and rescued her, but the other attack continues and its target, howsoever unwittingly, is not her alone but the always fragile democracy in India. Updates
On August 9, 2007, the Centre for Enquiry, Hyderabad, held a meeting at the local press club, to celebrate the publication of two Telugu books, both translations, one from the Bengali of Taslima Nasrin, and the other from the Chinese (via English) of Jung Chang. Since the two authors are victims of persecution in their home countries, the meeting was also a celebration of the fundamental human right of free expression and political dissent. The guest of honour was the Bangladeshi writer herself, who had flown in from Kolkota where she presently lives in a perilous and uncertain exile.

As the meeting was coming to a close, it was disrupted by a small mob. This is how The Hindu, under the heading 'Taslima Roughed Up in Hyderabad,' reported the main events the following day:

'Bangladeshi writer Taslima Nasrin was roughed up by legislators of the Majlis-e-Ittehadul Muslimeen (MIM) and a mob led by them in the Press Club of Hyderabad on Thursday…. She had just completed her engagement when about 20 MIM activists, led by MLAs Syed Ahmed Pasha Qadri, Afsar Khan and Moazzam Khan, barged into the conference hall.

She looked in disbelief as they hurled abuses against her. Demanding to know "who had mustered the guts to invite her to Hyderabad, they wanted Ms. Nasrin to be handed over to them.

Without further warning, they began throwing books, bouquets, chairs, and whatever they could lay their hands on at her. Some persons in the mob almost got hold of her but Narisetti Innaiah, rationalist and chairman of the Center for Inquiry, who was her host, shielded her. He was injured in his face. A couple of journalists who went to their rescue also sustained injuries in the scuffle.

Ms. Nasrin escaped unhurt though she was badly shaken by the sudden attack that came minutes after she made a categorical statement that she would continue to fight against evil "till my death".'

I then looked up the same news on the websites of Hyderabad's two most widely read Urdu newspapers, Siasat and Munsif, and also the English language website of the former. What I found on August 10 did not come as a surprise at all. In fact, it was as I had expected on the basis of my experience of Urdu newspapers in Lucknow and Delhi. But what I read on August 11 on the English language website indeed surprised me. It made me aware that things have changed more radically than I had thought.

What I read on August 10 were two fiery, rabble-rousing statements in Urdu, but a more professional news report in English, no different from what I quoted above from The Hindu. Below I give in translation portions of the two Urdu reports. (But first an explanation of a phrase used below. Gustakh-e-Rasul, lit. one who insults the prophet. I abbreviate it as GR.):

In Siasat, dated August 10, under two headings:

  • 'GR Authoress Taslima Nasrin Attacked with Bouquets of Flowers'
  • 'An Observance of What the Shari'at Commands or Merely a Political Ruse?'

'. . . GR Taslima Nasrin succeeded in safely going back from Hyderabad, despite the fact that three MLAs, with some fifty supporters, threw flowers at her in the name of a protest. The shameless GR authoress, who stands next to Salman Rushdie, was taking part in a function organized by the Center for Enquiry at the Press Club, Somaji Goda, when three members of the Legislative Assembly, Muqtada Khan Afsar, Ahmad Pasha Qadiri, and Muazzam Khan, together with more than 50 of their supporters, arrived and, while using abusive language, did no more than cause a ruckus and some vandalism. All of them were unable to harm in the slightest a GR, not even a woman GR.

A person despised in the Muslim world, against whom fatwas to kill have been issued, on such a person they threw [merely] bouquets that had been placed near the stage, when [in fact] there were not too many people present there to protect her….

'Neither the police nor the Intelligence Service knew about the presence of Taslima Nasrin. That is why the MLAs had a fine opportunity to disrupt her program. However, a most opportune moment to enforce the law of Shari'a on that GR was wasted, what they did was only for political opportunism. The political ambitions of the protesters was also made evident by the fact that they dared not throw shoes or chappal at the GR who was only three or four feet away from them, but instead kept throwing bouquets. The Muslim Millat can tolerate every tyranny, injustice, and humiliation but it can never tolerate any disrespect to the Last of the Prophets (pbuh). Whenever anyone has shown such disrespect, Muslims have in turn shown no fear in bringing that person to his deserved end. It is a fact of history that the Faithful have never worried about consequences when it comes to punishing a person who defames the Prophet (pbuh).'

2. In Munsif, dated August 10, under three headings::

  • 'An Attempt to Attack the GR and "Notorious in Time" Taslima Nasrin'
  • 'The Bangladeshi Authoress Didn't Get Even a Scratch.'
  • 'People say: 'The confused author should have been taught a severe lesson.'

'Three members of the legislative assembly, with some fifteen supporters, disrupted the meeting. They raised slogans and threw a bouquet of flowers and a ladies' handbag toward Taslima Nasrin. Taslima Nasrin hid in a panic behind her hosts and was not at all hurt. She was trembling in fear even though no protesters came near her or lay a hand on her….

'Eyewitnesses say that the way this protest was conducted made it look like a welcoming ceremony with flowers instead. The MLAs and other protesters threw only flowers at Nasrin. They took flowers out of the bouquets set up in the hall, and threw them at her. Not one of the protesters had the courage to take off his shoes or chappals and hit Taslima with them, throw them at her, or at least point the same at her. It was perfectly legitimate [ja'iz] to attack Taslima Nasrin, to humiliate her, or to insult and mock her in any fashion. However, the MLAs and workers of a political party threw flowers, which had people's minds ringing with the old song, 'Baharo phul barsao, mera mahbub aayaa hai.'

'What should have been done instead? Taslima Nasrin should have been dishonoured in such a manner that henceforth she'd never dare to return to Hyderabad. But that was not done. There was no police officer present there. Only two persons were trying to protect Taslima. The protesting MLAs made a lot of noise but showed no willingness to charge forward. Those who saw the whole thing call it a "drama." The leaders of this political party had thrown a pot of filth upon the editor of an Urdu newspaper in Mahdi Patnam, but now they showered only flowers on a GR. Today all was possible to teach a GR and a disparager of Islam what her end could be, but a political party of the city wasted the opportunity by seeking only cheap publicity. The leaders of this party drew revolvers in their tussle over one hundred yards of Waqf land, but cast only flowers at Taslima today….'

Long accustomed to reading such blatantly rabble-rousing statements in the Urdu press of North India, I was not surprised to find the same in the Hyderabadi Urdu press. And the more professional report published on the English language website of Siasat, reflective of a kind of hypocrisy also found in North Indian Muslim circles, came not as a surprise either. One is always on one's best behaviour in English in India. Or so was the case, I thought. But the August 11 web-edition of the English language Siasat carried an unsigned statement concerning the incident that tells me that things have indeed changed radically. The statement is headlined, 'Barking dogs never bite!', and read as follows:

'It is said that 30 minutes are enough either to make or break anybody's career, reputation or life. In the wake of the incident of attack on Bangladeshi writer Taslima Nasreeen [sic] at press club on Thursday, it is indeed unbelievable that MIM MLAs got more than 30 minutes and instead of using this time to its maximum damage, they simply wasted it in chanting useless slogans and hurling flower bouquets knowing fully that they would get badly needed political mileage.

'They could not lift even a chair lying near by to attack her with strong impact though only a few persons were present there. It is nothing but a political gimmick played on her.

'The suicide bombers in Iraq are the best example to eliminate not only their targets but also themselves. And they are doing so with an eye blinker. Imagine, what could they have done if they had 30 minutes. Religious sentiments are totally different from the political ambitions.

'If you are religiously hurt, no might on this earth be able to prevent you to eliminate a person or organization that is involved in blasphemy of prophet Muhammad (PBUH). It clearly indicates that whatever MIM people have on their tongue, it is missing from their hearts as the proverb goes that barking dogs never bite.

'Now, according to Times of India and The Hindu, they are trying to add one more 'feather' to their cap by showing an intention to organize a campaign against Taslima to oust her from the country.

'When they could not utilize those thirty minutes to oust her from this world itself, what is the use to organize a campaign now? It is just like an embarrassed cat is scratching the pole. Religion is second to none to Mr. Asad.'

To my knowledge, the Munsif does not have an English language edition. Its issue on August 11, however, carried an editorial, which deserves some notice. Titled, 'The Accursed Gustakh-e-Rasul Taslima Nasrin,' it begins by raising a question: 'What would a true Muslim do if he came face to face with a GR woman and there is no "security" to protect her?' While it explicitly recommends 'beating with shoes' and 'blackening the face,' it also uses innuendo and 'historical' references to suggest more severe actions. For Munsif, any 'protest' must be 'punitive.' It further points out that if the protesters were hesitant to attack a woman, they could have brought some of their own women with them--the MIM has its own 'women force' and women 'corporators'--and the latter could have made Taslima a target of their wrath.

Munsif, incidentally, is owned and edited by someone who long lived in Chicago, made his money here, and might still be an American citizen. That may explain why Munsif has no English website--it could get its owner in trouble with the American security hotheads. Siasat, on the other hand, seems to have some ambitions to reach out to both Urdu and non-Urdu readers on the web. As one reads the reports and editorials in the two newspapers one understands the true significance of the incident and its deep links to local political rivalries. One also sees how violently radical the so-called Muslim-Urdu opinion-makers have now become, and how blatantly they go about radicalizing the public discourse in the worst way. As Barkha Dutt, in a passionate and hard-hitting analysis in the Hindustan Times (August 10), points out, the incident at Hyderabad must be taken most seriously by every Indian.

The MIM MLAs are indeed as reprehensible as any Pravin Togadia or Bal Thackeray. They should indeed be condemned equally forcefully and widely. In addition to public condemnations of the incident at Hyderabad and its perpetrators, it is most urgent for the state and press authorities themselves to examine the reports and editorials mentioned above and determine if any violation of India's secular laws has also occurred. Similarly, Urdu intellectuals in Hyderabad and elsewhere should undertake a more active role in exposing and challenging the violent and extremist views that are seemingly becoming more acceptable in Urdu journals and newspapers with every passing day. The first attack on Taslima Nasrin ended when the police arrived at the Press Club and rescued her, but the other attack continues and its target, howsoever unwittingly, is not her alone but the always fragile democracy in India. Any diminution of it will hurt India's minorities more than its majority community.


C. M. Naim is Professor. Emeritus, South Asian Languages & Civilizations, University of Chicago

 
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Aug 27, 2007 12:00 AM
70
The muslim fundamentalists are playing in to the hands of the Hindu fundamentalists.But Mr Naim is bent upon attacking Muslims tacitly.I can't say for whom.If Taslima writes similar books on Hindu deities, avatars and saints for which abundant authentic materials are available, will she be able to remain in India?By this time Sangh Parivar outfits would have driven her out of the country or killed her.It is wellknown that she has little intellectual calibre and is projected as a writer with some standing only due to her anti Muslim writings by vested gruops in the west and in India.I will not be surprised if she is awarded the Noble prize!Mr Naim will applaud with great glee!
nasar
Raleigh, USA
Aug 20, 2007 12:00 AM
69
>>> The MIM MLAs are indeed as reprehensible as any Pravin Togadia or Bal Thackeray.

Why is this author unnecessarily dragging names of Pravin Togadia or Bal Thackeray in this shameless act?

These three MLAs were personally involved in the attack on Taslima. When were Pravin Togadia or Bal Thackeray personally involved in any attack? Have they ever issued a fatwa or declared a price to kill someone?
Satish
Pune, India
Aug 16, 2007 12:00 AM
68
Jash>> Unfortunately I am not a man,but a woman, and incapable of lusting after virgins and killing for them like u.

Jash>> The moms of AUGUSTUS,ALLHAD SATHE,PEAR, PARTHA AND TEAM CAPTAIN VINOD M are all jihadi whores.

Assuming that you are really a woman, I wonder what your kids think abt their Mom!
Raj
Leipzig, Germany
Aug 16, 2007 12:00 AM
67
>> Against this, Pakistan has deployed less than 100,000 personnel to 'quell' turbulence within its country.

Mr. Joseph, when will you Pakistanis wrap around your heads the fact that INdia is 8 times bigger than your country? Is it not strange that even if we take your numbers, India deploys only as many troops in the entire country outside Kashmir as Pakistan does?

Kashmir is a special case because your blessed country wont leave us alone. Not that you have much of a choice. Eventually Pakistan will either come to its senses, or it will implode because of the enormous cost of sustaining the conflict. Once again, let me try to explain that the costs are asymmetrical. Even if it costs India twice as much, it actually costs it 4 times less because of the relative sizes of the two economies.

BTW, talking about economies, after the recent rupee appreciation, India became a trillion dollar economy with a billion people. Relatively simple math indicates its Per capita GDP is close to a 1000 US Dollars. In both absolute and PPP terms, India's per capita GDP has been greater than Pakistan's since 2002. India liberalized its economy in 1991 and it took only 10 years to wipe out 45 years lead that Pakistan built up. The gap will keep widening for the foreseeable future.
vijay
Chennai, India
Aug 15, 2007 12:00 AM
66
Ganpat/Bagai,

>> Danish welfare laws were made for Danes who are loyal to their country and work for it.
Its not meant for parasites.

So why don't you start a movement to get new laws just for Muslims? Seriously though, don't Danish politicians and bureucrats deal with this problem? Why do you have to bother your little bigotted head about them?

Hate message number 7.
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
Aug 15, 2007 12:00 AM
65
Ganpat/Bagai,

>> We all believe in liberal and secular socities, but you support it because it permits you to live ghettoised and practice your grossly illiberal faith- contrary to all civilised standards.

They say bigotry is based on ignorance. And who is more ignorant than you?

>> I would like an open debate about your prophet, his life, and behaviour-private and public.

Why would any Muslim want to debate a bigotic idiot like yourself? You probably don't have the brains to see it, but it is very easy to tear down any religion. Does not require an Einstein to do that. Your line of reasoning is so schoolboyish, it is pathetic.

>> I believe that muslims must get a notice. Change or leave. The USA is now playing tough with you. Anyway muslims despite all hardships have shown no intention to leave.

Schoolboyish stuff, but has to be counted as hate message number 4 for today!
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
Aug 15, 2007 12:00 AM
64
Ganpat/Bagai,

>> Just look at your community in Pakistan, and what a mess they have made. Muslims in India are no better, in fact much worse. Your leadership consists of a few wimps, and lots of mullahs and fanatics.

I do not have any community in Pakistan. My community in India is doing poorly. Your snobbish and disdainful words about my community represnt a view-point that I was not too familiar with until recently. I am sure your hatred is not shared by a majority of Hindus, except perhpas in internet chatrooms.

>> You expect to get all your wishes by shouting liberal and liberal slogans. Pure eye wash.

You now sound like Colonel Blimp!

(Hate message number 3 for today!)
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
Aug 15, 2007 12:00 AM
63
Ganpat/Bagai,

>> You are working for CAIR, for the simple reason that muslims are under fire in America.

I support CAIR, but I am not doing any work for them. Such advocacy groups exist in America and England to speak up in defense of Muslims, Hindus, Jews and other ethnic groups. The most active, and one of the oldest is the Jewish Defense League (JDL), which at times has run afoul of the law just like CAIR. I think such groups perform a useful service, but they must stay within the bounds of the law.

>> Its you who needs to change, and not us.


I have never said Hindus need to change. My fight has been with just the three bigots in this forum who carry on a continuous campaign of hate. I mean you, Jash/Chitra and Surya/Bodepudi.
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
Aug 15, 2007 12:00 AM
62
What mess, which mess, where Mr. Ganpat Ram. There was alongish Panel discussion on 60 Years of India And Pakistan on the Geo Television Channel. India was represented by Mr. Farooq Abdullah, General (Retired) Shankar A. Chaudhury and Mr. M. J. Akbar. Pakistan was represented by Sheikh Rahid Ahmed, General (Retired) Mirza Aslam Beg and Mr. Mushahid Hussain.

It was conceded that India keeps the peace in its Administered Jammu and Kashmir through the presence and use of 500,000 members of the Army, 160,000 members of the Paramilitary Forces and around 100,000 others including the Police. In addition, it was also mentioned that 120,000 members of the Indian Armed Forces are in action in various degrees of intensity in 115 Districts out of some 600 Districts that India has.

Against this, Pakistan has deployed less than 100,000 personnel to 'quell' turbulence within its country.

Whose is in a greater mess?.
Joseph
Karachi, Pakistan
Aug 15, 2007 12:00 AM
61
Status. Sorry
Joseph
Karachi, Pakistan
Aug 15, 2007 12:00 AM
60
Country Subject Descriptor Units Scale Country/Series-specific Notes 2007
Afghanistan, Rep. of. Gross domestic product per capita, current prices U.S. dollars Units 383.354

Bangladesh Gross domestic product per capita, current prices U.S. dollars Units 485.615

Bhutan Gross domestic product per capita, current prices U.S. dollars Units 1,443.980

India Gross domestic product per capita, current prices U.S. dollars Units 870.999

Maldives Gross domestic product per capita, current prices U.S. dollars Units 3,156.878

Nepal Gross domestic product per capita, current prices U.S. dollars Units 358.199

Pakistan Gross domestic product per capita, current prices U.S. dollars Units 893.231

Sri Lanka Gross domestic product per capita, current prices U.S. dollars Units 1,549.285

Afghanistan, Rep. of. Gross domestic product based on purchasing-power-parity (PPP) per capita GDP Current international dollar Units 1,640.249

Bangladesh Gross domestic product based on purchasing-power-parity (PPP) per capita GDP Current international dollar Units 2,434.788

Bhutan Gross domestic product based on purchasing-power-parity (PPP) per capita GDP Current international dollar Units 5,103.142

India Gross domestic product based on purchasing-power-parity (PPP) per capita GDP Current international dollar Units 4,031.334

Maldives Gross domestic product based on purchasing-power-parity (PPP) per capita GDP Current international dollar Units 8,734.728

Nepal Gross domestic product based on purchasing-power-parity (PPP) per capita GDP Current international dollar Units 1,953.718

Pakistan Gross domestic product based on purchasing-power-parity (PPP) per capita GDP Current international dollar Units 2,917.381

Sri Lanka Gross domestic product based on purchasing-power-parity (PPP) per capita GDP Current international dollar Units
5,657.077
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On this afternoon of 15th. August, 2008 may I remind my Indian Forum Members about India's True Staus./
Joseph
Karachi, Pakistan
Aug 15, 2007 12:00 AM
59
Ganpat/Bagai,

>> You dismiss all serious charges against your community as bigotry.

I am not here to answer any charges. I am here to try to fight bigotry. My original purpose in coming to this forum was to see if a constructive Hindu-Muslim dialogue was possible, but much of my time has been taken up by the three bigots in this forum. I did not know that fellow Indians could attack a whole Indian community and their religion so savagely, bitterly and so systematically as the three hate mongers here. I am of course referring to you, Jash/Chitra and Surya/Bodepudi. It has been an eye-opener.

In any case, I must now get some sleep.
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
Aug 15, 2007 12:00 AM
58
Jash/Chitra,

>> when he rejected the painstaking effort and erudition of MFR.

So what did you think of MFR's strong advocacy of secularism? Or did it just go over your head?
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
Aug 15, 2007 12:00 AM
57
Jash/Chitra,

>> How many painters like Van Gogh would need to die before this happens? How many 9/11s and dead Hindus in riots and terrorist bombs and kashmir/bdesh/pak genocides before this happens?

Not as long as it would take for you to become a decent human being.
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
Aug 15, 2007 12:00 AM
56
Ganpat:
>>
Talking about exchanges, I would gladly exchange
Tasleema for say 5 million BD illegals. Hey will
give back the whole lot and 10 to 20 more from our own stock.
>>

I have zero opinion on giving Indian citizenship to Tasleema, that's govt's job, not mine.
I just opined that whether she has written something bad (imagined or otherwise) about muhammed do not disqualify to Indian citizenship.

Moreover, I am not sure how to exchange the immigrants, many of them have been hounded out of their homes (religious persicution), some others have come for economic benefit(since they are extremely poor). Sure one has to reduce this influx, with some tough policing at the border (since it taxes our economy and increases the possibility of terorists entering). But sending back will require a massive manhunt and may result an even worse human tragedy.
Indranil
Kolkata, India
Aug 15, 2007 12:00 AM
55
Ganpat/Bagai,

>> If you are staying some where and not paying the rent, food and makeing yourself a pest, its not bigotry to ask the unwelcome guest to leave.

Danish laws regarding welfare abuse should take care of this problem. For rabid bigots like yourself to start hyperventilating over it is very unseemly.
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
Aug 15, 2007 12:00 AM
54
Ganpat/Bagai,

>> After the events of the last month, the Ahmed
brothers, now the incident wrt Tasleema Nasreen
a back lash against muslims wil take place.
Even more difficulty with jobs, houseing , bank loans and everything else. Old Sachar and his
band will not be able to help.

Is that your wish or your prayer?
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
Aug 15, 2007 12:00 AM
53
Ganpat/Bagai,

>> Is it all right for muslims to live on charity from the infidels.

Welfare assistance is not called charity, at least not in the United States. If welfare assistance to Danish Muslims irks you, write to your MP.

>> Most people in Denmark supported the cartoonists.

Making freedom of expression a highly prized value is good, but the same Danish editor had earlier rejected Jesus cartoons!
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
Aug 15, 2007 12:00 AM
52
Ganpat/bagai,

>> Messenger of god. Pardon me. Did I hear it right,
And his followers are the most targeted ikn this planet. All earthquakes, floods, famines, civil wars him them. Hey make sure its the messenger of god.I am happy to be without him in any case.

Today's hate message number 9 from our hate specialist!
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
Aug 15, 2007 12:00 AM
51
Ganpat/Bagai,

>> Danes may be bigots, buts it a questioning of rescueing our homes from barbarians.

Danes are not bigots, just you. Danes have grown out of their antisemitism, and they will eventually resolve current difficulties with orthodox immigrants too, quite unlike an apartheidist like you whose only cry is "Send them back, send them back!"
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
Aug 15, 2007 12:00 AM
50
The solution to such "affronts" is not to muzzle expression, but to force the intolerant to grow thicker skin.
vijay
Chennai, India
Aug 15, 2007 12:00 AM
49
>> Actually, it is absolutely fine if any victim of persecution, particularly a woman, is afforded refuge by the opposite community, but the point relevant is that Tasleema is being given a red carpet for slandering Islam.
GOONGAPARBAT

So what? You go about being a goon? This is a free country. She can say what she wants. You have invoked your right to say she should be a prostitute didn't you? Why cannot she invoke her right to say your religion is discriminatory? Seems to be she has more truth on her side than you do on yours, even though both are moronic generalizations.
vijay
Chennai, India
Aug 15, 2007 12:00 AM
48
Religion is not above criticism. If someone has a problem with what Taslima has to say, take it up in court, instead of becoming a nuisance to yourself and your country.
vijay
Chennai, India
Aug 14, 2007 12:00 AM
47
Ganpat/Bagai,

>> In Denmark people are fed up of muslims, Islam, and your prophet. Why dont these shameles people leave. Is that Islam ?- Liveing on the charity of nonmuslims. You people are shameless.

Hate mail number 6 for today from this Danish bigot.
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
Aug 14, 2007 12:00 AM
46
Ganpat/Bagai,

>> You guys live in slums, are backward, and you are irrelavent. You types should be shipped out in cattletrains westwards to your holy land.
But its a bit crowded there, and they are already overflowing with scum like you.But it may still be a good idea for India.

You have used your copy of Mein Kamph well. Heil Bagai!
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
Aug 14, 2007 12:00 AM
45
Ganpat/bagai,

>> A lot of nonmuslims in India have the lowest opinion of the messenger of god.

People immersed in hate ideology, like yourself, do. But even in India people who unashamedly make exhibitions of their bigotic selves are rare.
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
Aug 14, 2007 12:00 AM
44
"Iqbal was a strong proponent of the political and spiritual revival of Islamic civilisation across the world, but specifically in India; a series of famous lectures he delivered to this effect were published as The Reconstruction of Religious Thought in Islam. One of the most prominent leaders of the All India Muslim League, Iqbal encouraged the creation of a "state in northwestern India for Indian Muslims" in his 1930 presidential address.[2] Iqbal encouraged and worked closely with Muhammad Ali Jinnah, and he is known as Muffakir-e-Pakistan ("The Thinker of Pakistan"), Shair-e-Mashriq ("The Poet of the East"), and Hakeem-ul-Ummat ("The Sage of Ummah"). He is officially recognised as the "national poet" in Pakistan. The anniversary of his birth (یوم ولادت محمد اقبال‎ - Yōm-e Welādat-e Muḥammad Iqbāl) on November 9 is a holiday in Pakistan."
chaitanya
chennai, India
Aug 14, 2007 12:00 AM
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chaitanya
chennai, India
Aug 14, 2007 12:00 AM
42
Iqrar,

"KUCH TOH HAI JO MIT-TI NAHI HAI HASTI HAMARI,
BARSO RAHA HAI DUSHMAN, DAUR-E-JAHAN HAMARA.
remember these lines they were written by Allama Iqbal"


This is what the wikipedia says about the guy...

"famous for his work on religious and political philosophy in Islam, he is credited with first proposing the idea of an independent state for Indian Muslims, which would inspire the creation of Pakistan....In his speech, Iqbal emphasised that unlike Christianity, Islam came with "legal concepts" with "civic significance," with its "religious ideals" considered as inseparable from social order: "therefore, the construction of a policy on national lines, if it means a displacement of the Islamic principle of solidarity, is simply unthinkable to a Muslim."[10] Iqbal thus stressed not only the need for the political unity of Muslim communities, but the undesirability of blending the Muslim population into a wider society not based on Islamic principles. He thus became the first politician to articulate what would become known as the Two-Nation Theory — that Muslims are a distinct nation and thus deserve political independence from other regions and communities of India. However, he would not elucidate or specify if his ideal Islamic state would construe a theocracy, even as he rejected secularism and nationalism. The latter part of Iqbal's life was concentrated on political activity. He would travel across Europe and West Asia to garner political and financial support for the League, and he reiterated his ideas in his 1932 address, and during the Third Round-Table Conference, he opposed the Congress and proposals for transfer of power without considerable autonomy or independence for Muslim provinces. He would serve as president of the Punjab Muslim League, and would deliver speeches and publish articles in an attempt to rally Muslims across India as a single political entity. Iqbal consistently criticised feudal classes in Punjab as well as Muslim politicians averse to the League."
chaitanya
chennai, India
Aug 14, 2007 12:00 AM
41
Iqrar:
>>
you need not to agree with me, after all we live in a democracy but yes my only intention is any mischief monger who can be danger to the society irrespective of his caste, colour, religion should be severely punished.
>>

Sure, we live in a democratic country, and it is within our right to differ in opinion.
India is a diverse country and to make this country work one has to encourage pluralism.
People should be free to interpret and re interpret whatever religion is there in the world. You may not agree to all the interpretations on religion, but you have to counter with logic and examples. If exemplary punishment has to be given for expressing a thought, then we are descending on to a very backward society.
Well let me give an example! mostly in ramayan, ram is the hero and rvana the villain.
In 19th century there was a bengali poet he rewrote portions of ramayan (in the form of an epic) where, indrajit (ranava's son) is the hero and not ram or lakshman....
Madhusudan is great bengali poet, going by your logic the hindus should throw his works to the dustbin... should they?
The answer is definitely NO.....

Similarly if nasreen has defamed your prophet, by all means protest, but with logic and rebuffing her points. Instead, deporting her for her opinion is the worst form of reaction.
I myslef have read some of nasreen's work. Her first publicatin in India is 'Nirbachito Column'
(selected colmuns: selection of her short essays)
That was quite good. Later I read some of her novels, which to my mind is of low literary quality, howevr all the facts she presented may not be way off the mark, though I found some exagerration.
So if you want frame a point by point rebuttal of nasreens portrayel of prophet, but killing manhandling or hounding her for her opinion is not acceptable.
Indranil
Kolkata, India
Aug 14, 2007 12:00 AM
40
The central problem, is not Taslima or others like her. It is the intolerance in Islam for dissent, questioning or reform.

A M.F.Hussain who painted Sita in the nude, lewdly perched on Hanuman's tail may be shouted at and gheraoed, but will surely not be killed by Hindus. Similarly Periyar who garlanded Rama idols with slippers and beat and broke Ganesha Idols in public is accepted and venerated as a Bertrand Russel/ Socrates kind of reformer by several tamil Hindus themselves.

Muslims treat any questioning of their religion , the Quran or the Prophet as blasphemy. In Islamic countries blasphemy ( only against Islam)is punishable by death, legally. Where the case takes time, an enthusiatic volunteer often completes the job. Apostasy , is also punishable by death. This effectively stifles dissent or questioning from all quarters.

Since we are no longer an islamic country ( and not yet, in spite of the best efforts of the pseculars) simple old fashioned violence is used.
No muslim/ psecular psuedo intellectual will come forward to defend Taslima, since they know which side is safe to attack and win brownie points.

Since the MIM legislators have won by popular vote, we must conclude they represent a majority opinion. The least to be done is to book them under the most stringent IPC acts, as an example. That may also motivate moderate muslims to come out of the closet.
radesh rangarajan
chennai, India
Aug 14, 2007 12:00 AM
39
Chanakya:

“But Prof Naim could have done better than bringing in Togadia & Thackeray towards the end of this article. The issue under discussion was the behaviour of the MIM MLAs and the Urdu Press. We dont find criticism of Muslim fundamentalists in articles that blast Togadia or Thackeray.”

You have articulated the double standards very well. This has become a habit in our political and intellectual discourse and hence even when Niam chose to write a courageous article about the Urdu press, he couldn’t do it without mentioning the so-called Hindu right. On being asked about the Hyderabad incident, our “leading light of secularism” – Javed Akhtar rightly condemned it but added that they are like Muslim Bajrang Dal! In my view, the purpose is to suggest that Muslim fundamentalism is born mainly to counter the long existing Hindu variety otherwise India would be a land of peace! However, if you look at our history, it has been exactly the opposite. Hence the cause and effect rule is justified on a regular basis for Muslims, but if you so much as even suggest it for Hindus, all hell breaks loose!!
RSM
Delhi, India
Aug 14, 2007 12:00 AM
38
“Iqrar saheb:"yes i live in a secular country where you are free to abuse other religions except Hinduism”

“Iqrar Saheb : "Kancha Illiah or Chandra Bhan spew venom because of the perpetual treatement they got for 5000 years at the hands of the so called the champions of hinduism, which they still feel. come to our village and you'll understand what it is to be a lower caste person."

Fair enough. Infact they can spew venom at Hinduism, even if they do not have a cause. They are entitled to that.”

In fact, dorks like Illiah and Udit Raj not only spew venom but their writing contain factual inaccuracies, distortions and blatant lies. Illiah has claimed in his writings that Mahabharata was a war between upper castes and schedule castes! These dimwits are considered as intellectuals in India and are invited to all kinds of debate and intellectual forums. Despite that, nobody is after their blood. Yes, their claims have been debated and discredited by various writers. Similarly throughout my childhood I learned that Hinduism was all about castes, sati and Manusmriti.

Anyone who can claim that in India we are free to abuse other religions except Hinduism must have woken up after a really long slumber
RSM
Delhi, India
Aug 14, 2007 12:00 AM
37
"Muslims do not hate her because of her anti-Islamic opinion or writings but are agitating against her offensive remarks towards the messenger of Allah."

Just curious, how are they different?
Kiran Bagachi
mumbai, India
Aug 14, 2007 12:00 AM
36
So I do stand corrected, you see, and good to know that you know your spellings.

And I am not a woman. Kiran is very much a male name in Maharashtra, though in north India, it’s kept only for girls.
Kiran Bagachi
mumbai, India
Aug 14, 2007 12:00 AM
35
kiran
before abusing anyone else or saying ignorent oaf please don't try to tom tom yourself.

i pity a woman who can't spell ignorant too.

and yes i know it was written for hindostan and he died
iqrar
najibabad, India
Aug 14, 2007 12:00 AM
34
"KUCH TOH HAI JO MIT-TI NAHI HAI HASTI HAMARI,
BARSO RAHA HAI DUSHMAN, DAUR-E-JAHAN HAMARA.
remember these lines they were written by Allama Iqbal whose grandfather was a brahmin."

so were of most muslims. Incidently, Iqbal wrote this for Hindustan, not islam you ignorent oaf!!

But i dont blame you, naya naya mulla allah hi allah pukarta hai.
Kiran Bagachi
mumbai, India
Aug 14, 2007 12:00 AM
33
Taslima Nasreen, a writer, is in the news again, usually, for the same reason. Again She is supported by the champions of Freedom of Expression and hated equally by the Muslims. The role of media is also as usual misinforming the people of this country that Muslims dislike Taslima because of her anti Islamic thoughts. The same media is silent on the dubious role played by our government who have initiated a legal proceedings against M.F.Husain, an Indian and granted Amnesty to a foreigner, Taslima.

Taslima Nasreen, is free to believe whatever she likes and also has the right to get her opinion expressed and disseminated but she or anyone else can never be allowed to assassinate the Character of anybody. Those who have gone through her writings are well aware that Her remarks and language against the Prophet Muhammad, is Derogatory and Unquotable. Muslims do not hate her because of her anti Islamic opinion or writings but are agitating against her offensive remarks towards the messenger of Allah.

As far as the Freedom of Expression in our country is concern the Delhi High Court explains it's on MF Hussain case in April 2004. The High court observed, “Under the garb of freedom of expression no person can be allowed to hurt the religious feelings of any class of people.” The Honorable court further aided, "If one has been granted unlimited freedom, one is required or expected to use it for good purpose and not with malicious intention, to defame or degrade religious deities may be mythological, as these immortals are held in highest esteem and over a period become part of one's day to day religious life to such an extent that anything adverse said or printed or painted hurts the religious feelings immensely.”

Today, Freedom of Expression in the media is subject to profit. The noted journalist and the Megasaysay award winner P.Sainath has observed, “ The journalists today are the Stenographer of the owner of the Newspaper and Channels.” Stories are motivated and dropped by the muscle and money power. Journalists today know how much freedom do they have for the expression?
Rehan Ansari
Amr789@gmail.com
rehan
mumbai, India
Aug 14, 2007 12:00 AM
32
jash

and you think you're a civilised person, you are really a fool.

become a muslim and you'll know Islam better, ok.
and since you live in the US, you must be knowing that the largest growing religion over there is Islam.

NOw you have to tell that why it is so. for ur information there is a sudden surge in reverting to islam post 9-11, how do explain it, and of which mostly are whites.

and as for the traitors that we are not, it was a hindu who first became a traitor, remember your grand dad jaichand.

as for we being barbaric read the history of spain, india and all the countries which were ruled for around 8-9 hundred years. ok

you yourself are the testimony of it that you were not touched and how muslims despite being in power kept themselves aloof of the injustice.

become a muslim and you'll certainly know what i am saying as i have become one.

PS.
KUCH TOH HAI JO MIT-TI NAHI HAI HASTI HAMARI,
BARSO RAHA HAI DUSHMAN, DAUR-E-JAHAN HAMARA.
remember these lines they were written by Allama Iqbal whose grandfather was a brahmin

Jai HInd
iqrar
najibabad, India
Aug 14, 2007 12:00 AM
31
The Al-Qaeda is the successors-in-interest of a group of terrorists created, JASH, by Cheney, Rumsfeld, et al, and which was not disbanded when the objective was achieved.

As to why some Pakistanis do not believe that Al-Qaeda was linked with 9/11, let me pose you a counter-question. Why was the 'chatter' before 9/11 ignored by the U. S. A. Government?.
Joseph
Karachi, Pakistan
Aug 14, 2007 12:00 AM
30
Iqrar saheb, you say:"muslims who commit acts of terrorism are not considered muslims whatever they & their supporters might claim but yes hindus become great hindus after they commit act of terrorism."

You are addressing the wrong audience. The affected people dont give a damn. All they know is that people are blowing up trains, flying planes into buildings, blowing up market places etc in the name of your religion. As far as the affected parties are concerned, they are Muslims.

If you do not consider them "Muslims" then you chaps should make that clear to them.

The MIM MLAs are defending their actions saying that they are defending their religion by attacking the GR & that they are implementing the "fatwa".

So instead of lecturing us about whether they should or should not be considered as Muslims, why dont you tell the very guys who are doing these acts in the name of your religion?

Why dont you write a letter to the MIM MLAs or pitch a tent and do a dharna or better still "blacken" the faces of these people who are blackening the name of your religion?
Chanakya
Dubai, United Arab Emirates
Aug 14, 2007 12:00 AM
29
Iqrar Saheb : "Kancha Illiah or Chandra Bhan spew venom because of the perpetual treatement they got for 5000 years at the hands of the so called the champions of hinduism, which they still feel. come to our village and you'll understand what it is to be a lower caste person."

Fair enough. Infact they can spew venom at Hinduism, even if they do not have a cause. They are entitled to that.

Similarly, Taslima Nasreen too expresses herself through her art (literature) for the treatment she and other women folk have got in Islam.

M F Hussein was treated like a good artist, as long as he painted horses and flowers and even Madhuri Dixit. The day he started painting Hindu Goddesses in a denigrating manner was when he was hounded out of the country. (Incidentally, he is what can be termed a "bhagoda").

You want to throw Taslima out of the country - go ahead. By all means. But then dont defend M F Hussien's Freedom of Expression. If he has the right to express himself freely, then so does Taslima Nasreen. If you defend ones freedom of expression, then you selectively cannot "not defend" the other's right.

You say, you "reverted" to Islam - reverted means you went back. Which means that you were a Muslim, then converted to some other religion and then went back to Islam. But I am assuming that you converted to Islam from Hinduism. Well, good for you.

But it is surprising, that in such a short period of being a Muslim, you have already developed a superior attitude that you state "you taught the uncivilised Hindus" how to do things. Is that was the "religion of the pure" does to you?
Chanakya
Dubai, United Arab Emirates
Aug 14, 2007 12:00 AM
28
dear Chanakya

I reverted to Islam, i used to be a Hindu, shall be buried in the dust of my motherland inshaAllah.

Jai Hind
iqrar
najibabad, India
Aug 14, 2007 12:00 AM
27
dear Chanakya

Kancha Illiah or Chandra Bhan spew venom because of the perpetual treatement they got for 5000 years at the hands of the so called the champions of hinduism, which they still feel. come to our village and you'll understand what it is to be a lower caste person.

as far as my views are considered i totally abhor and condemn the paintings and all the literature which is done in the garb of creative freedom just to hurt religious sentiments.

the only problem is we all indians do it selectively.

Jai Hind
iqrar
najibabad, India
Aug 14, 2007 12:00 AM
26
Iqrar saheb:"yes i live in a secular country where you are free to abuse other religions except hinduism"

Obviously, you do not read newspapers - just do a search on names like Kancha Illiah or Chandra Bhan or Arundhati Roy and read the venom they spew about Hinduism. If anyone would have written similar things about Islam, then they would not have a slightest chance of survival.

As for M F Hussein, we all appreciate the fact that he put India on the global art platform. In fact, we would be very grateful, if he could paint the Prophet and his wives (fully dressed or otherwise, that's his choice) and show how art is free from religion and raise India's level on the global art platform further.

As for your statement:"read your history where we muslims came and taught you how to urinate."

Now that we have learnt how to urinate, pls go back to wherever you came from. We have already paid quite a high price for this training. So now, pls "piss off" (no pun intended).

And your other statement:"it was only because of us otherwise your womenfolk used to just lift their sarees and start anywhere in the public, which even today your males do."

Is that why your women-folk go around dressed as black-ninjas and penguins? That you guys cant keep your dicks under control even if you see a small finger-nail exposed? That you guys would "attack" some poor woman who is just relieving herself?
Chanakya
Dubai, United Arab Emirates
Aug 14, 2007 12:00 AM
25
Firstly, we should be thankful to Prof Naim for having the courage to translate waht was published in the Urdu Press.

None of the torch-bearing seculars had the courage to do such a thing till date.

Infact, one of the arguments against the Sri Krishna Committee report was that it refused to have the Urdu papers articles printed post-Babri translated, while it readily got articles from papers like Saamna translated and portrayed them as "communally inflammatory articles".

Bal Thackeray was listed among the villians because of his "liking towards Hitler".

So where would be put the editor of one of these papers who is all praise for the suicide bombers in Iraq (who incidentally are killing thousands of innocent civilians, Muslims included)?

What's scary is the statement:"'Neither the police nor the Intelligence Service knew about the presence of Taslima Nasrin. That is why the MLAs had a fine opportunity to disrupt her program. However, a most opportune moment to enforce the law of Shari’a on that GR was wasted"

The law of Sharia??!!! In India?? Which country do these 7th century goons think they are living in?

There are a lot more inflammatory statements in the articles - and the non-reaction from the authorities and the seculars is most disturbing.

But Prof Naim could have done better than bringing in Togadia & Thackeray towards the end of this article. The issue under discussion was the behaviour of the MIM MLAs and the Urdu Press. We dont find criticism of Muslim fundamentalists in articles that blast Togadia or Thackeray.
Chanakya
Dubai, United Arab Emirates
Aug 14, 2007 12:00 AM
24
dear NARENDRA TANAKANTI (does Mr Owaisi think that Hyderabad is his baap's jagir)

actually i think he is just a cousin to Mr. Thackeray, look what his son said just said on hearing that Bombay riots cases might be opened and which is only farce as far as everyone of us know that if ever it will be opened it will be just an eyewash. because a life and property of we muslims are not worth it.


jai hind
iqrar
najibabad, India
Aug 14, 2007 12:00 AM
23
Indranil

you need not to agree with me, after all we live in a democracy but yes my only intention is any mischief monger who can be danger to the society irrespective of his caste, colour, religion should be severely punished.
iqrar
najibabad, India
Aug 14, 2007 12:00 AM
22
Iqrar:
>>
i agree with you my dear bhadralok indranil
tumi shoti bolchi
>>

Well, thanx, but I do not agree with your following observation
>>
ask my fellow countrymen to deport her to her country so that she is not allow to create any further activities such as this
>>
Indranil
Kolkata, India
Aug 14, 2007 12:00 AM
21
jaish

i can see desperation in your tone, might be because you actually are taught from your shit trained pandu that you're superior to every other human being, but finding the deeds of your fellow hindu terrorists which are like muslim terrorists, you actually feel your head going down in shame.

PS: muslims who commit acts of terrorism are not considered muslims whatever they & their supporters might claim but yes hindus become great hindus after they commit act of terrorism.

Jai Hind
iqrar
najibabad, India
Aug 14, 2007 12:00 AM
20
Does Mr Owaisi think that Hyderabad is his baap's jagir. The rationalists have enough guts to invite Taslima for another function. Mr Owaisi should understand that this is India where we have freedom of expression. If he wants sharia law to be implemented on the society he is most welcome to be deported to Afghanistan or Soudi Arabia.
These road side thugs(those three MLAs) who are muslims first and MLAs next should be kicked out of the country.
Narendra Tanakanti
Greenville, United States
Aug 14, 2007 12:00 AM
19
When M.F. Hussein's art Gufa was vandalised in Ahemadaabaad, or when cases were filed against him for painting Hindu godesses un derrogatory manner,(no physical violence to M.F.Hussein) all the SECULARS, LIBERALS, PROGRESSIVES, INTELLECTUALS, AUTHORS, SINGERS, DANCERS, ARTISTS Of all hues & colors perfomed SECULAR Tandav nritya across the length of India, to condemn this act of "FASCISM & FANATICISM & BARBARISM & WHAT NOT". They even advocated Hussein's freedom.
Where are all of them now? Arundhati, Nandita Das, Teestaa, Prakash, Sitaram, Praful Bidwai, Mahesh Bhatt, Ashis Nandy, Shabaanaa, Jaawed, Anand Patwardhan,......Where are you? Come out guys & gaals. Don't give small bytes on TV News which are watched mostly by Impotents from middle class. Come out on the open streets to show solidarity to Taslima & protest against the attack on ART & Literature.
Abhijit Kane
Mumbai, India
Aug 14, 2007 12:00 AM
18
i agree with you my dear bhadralok indranil
tumi shoti bolchi
iqrar
najibabad, India
Aug 14, 2007 12:00 AM
17
These fundamentalists should be given exemplary punishment.
Indranil
Kolkata, India
Aug 14, 2007 12:00 AM
16
jaish

yes i live in a secular country where you are free to abuse other religions except hinduism, just see what poor MF hussain is going through despite being the fact he is the person who is solely responsible to bring india on a global art platform

and as far as my and my fellow muslims being toilet trained you must first go and read your history where we muslims came and taught you how to urinate.

it was only because of us otherwise your womenfolk used to just lift their sarees and start anywhere in the public, which even today your males do.
iqrar
najibabad, India
Aug 14, 2007 12:00 AM
15
AP govt should be dismissed for shielding muslim terrorists who attacked Taslima. YSR Reddy has offered 15% reservation to muslim terrorists and anti-nationals whose loyalty exist for Pakistan.
Miss Chitra
Mangalore, India
Aug 14, 2007 12:00 AM
14
children of godse (the first terrorist of india) miss chitra, jash, ganesan et all, when you speak of righteousness, you sound hollow because when the time comes to denounce of your and your co-hindu jehadists you distribute sweets and when you see the same act being done by the other community you start feeling jealous.

PS: i condemn this act of violence against Taslima, but i also ask my fellow countrymen to deport her to her country so that she is not allow to create any further activities such as this.
iqrar
najibabad, India
Aug 14, 2007 12:00 AM
13
Shameless seculars are silent on the attack on Taslima. Muslims wants to convert India into Taliban with the help of their god fathers like Man Mohan Singh and YSR Reddy. Both have developed islamic mindset and losing their sleep for the sake of muslim terrorists. Attackers should have been arrested by now. Thousands of muslim dominated localities are ticking time bombs. These muslims are reproducing kids like pigs and forming vote banks of secular traitors and anti-national political leaders.
Miss Chitra
Mangalore, India
Aug 14, 2007 12:00 AM
12
Rationalists must be treated on par with followers of any other religion. The MIM MLA's should be arrested for assault. The editors of the two newspapers should be arrested for inciting religious violence against rationalists. I am ashamed these buggers are fellow countrymen.
vijay
Chennai, India
Aug 14, 2007 12:00 AM
11
No, Mr.Ganesan, There was no honesty in their thinking. They had not shown courage to say the truth. They are lying in order to confuse the whole matter and to turn the table against the Law and Order in the country. That is what I meant in my first posting on this issue.
T.Sathyamurthi
Folsom, United States
Aug 14, 2007 12:00 AM
10
If Manmohan Singh and Congress had no compunction in having a killer as a cabinet minister, it is laughable to expect them to have concerns of thugs in the party. And in truth, criminals are there in all parties. So the supposed shock expressed is not genuine.
Ganesan
Nj, USA
Aug 14, 2007 12:00 AM
9
The attack is condemnable and the attackers must be punished. But I have a problem with one aspect of the condemnation-the shock expressed over MLA's behaviour. I have seen reports like "how can these people become MLA's"?

This is a country which had a killer as a cabinet minsiter. The killer went underground when a warrant was issued and continued his duties as a minister from an underground bunker. The same people who express shock now turned the other way and kept singing praises about the "honest" Manmohan Integrity Singh. This is plain hypocrisy.
Ganesan
Nj, USA
Aug 14, 2007 12:00 AM
8
Sathyamurthi:

I never said urdu press REPORTS honestly. I just said they openly say what they honestly THINK. There is a big difference.
Ganesan
Nj, USA
Aug 14, 2007 12:00 AM
7
'...Urudu media is more honest in what they really think...'Ganesan from USA
Where is the honesty when the report they filed was a blatant and doctored lie? The pictures taken shows that what terribly shaken Nasrin received from the MIM cadres were not flowers but brickbats and filthy epithets. Had she not been protected by a few of those courageous organisers, she would not be here now to seek further extension to stay in this country. Honesty goes with the truth and courage. If we can not call a spade a spade, we are spineless cowards.
T.Sathyamurthi
Folsom, United States
Aug 14, 2007 12:00 AM
6
The reporting between the english and the urdu media makes one thing clear. Urdu media is more honest in what they really think-unlike the sophisticates in the english media who do all sorts of gymnastics to dodge an issue.
Ganesan
Nj, USA
Aug 14, 2007 12:00 AM
5
I will not be surprised if, at the end, the Court of Judicature that may deal with the criminal proceedings against the three MIM MLAs for mounting an attack on Nasrin, delivers judgement on the basis of what was stated by the Urudu Newspapers! It may even censure the State government for not banning Taslima from entering into Hyderabad but also may come down on the Police for booking a false case against the three MIM MLAs with an intent to malign their respectability!!
T.Sathyamurthi
Folsom, United States
Aug 14, 2007 12:00 AM
4
The Secularists, rationalist and the general citizens of civil society should get together in a show of strength to challenge such criminal and undemocratic behavior in the streets. Rallies, Bandhs and Dharnas should be organised.
THE SERIOUSNESS OF THIS MATTER CANNOT BE OVER EMPHASISED
Muslim for Reform
Nashik, India
Aug 14, 2007 12:00 AM
3
THESE CRIMINAL NEWSPAPERS ARE GETTING TO OPERATE FREELY IN THE NAME OF FREEDOM OF PRESS. THEIR PUBLICATION SHOULD BE STOPPED IMMEDIATELY, OFFICES SEALED, THE OWNERS ARRESTED, CHARGED AND HANDED DOWN THE MAXIMUM PUNISHMENT POSSIBLE UNDER LAW.
Muslim for Reform
Nashik, India
Aug 14, 2007 12:00 AM
2
Ganpat/Bagai,

>> However what does one do with their hundreds of thousand of supporters. They will claim they
love India. This is multicultural India.

Exactly why I call him an empty headed bigot!
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
Aug 14, 2007 12:00 AM
1
The three MLA's who attacked Tasleema Nasreen must be expelled from the legislature. They as well as the leadership of MIM should be prosecuted and given prison sentences.

Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
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