Narendra Bisht
Parents of murdered children outside Moninder Pandher's Noida residence
cover story: crime
Devil In The Flesh
What turned Moninder Singh Pandher and his man Friday Surindra Koli into bloodthirsty fiends?
A few grisly crimes in the country in the last six months
noida
Conceived as a model district, Noida today lacks any semblance of law and order
cover story: crime
The Nithari killings has the UP opposition baying for the state government's blood
Sharat Pradhan
Why? How?
The police are exploring various theories about why Moninder Singh Pandher and his domestic help Surindra Koli turned serial killers:
  • Both Were Sexual Deviants: This, the police claim, has been established by its investigation as well as the narco-analysis of master and servant. Koli scouted for victims and brought them to Pandher's residence in Noida. They were later killed.

  • The Organ Trade Angle: The precision with which the bodies were cut has led to the organ trade angle being investigated. The police has not ruled it out but has left it to the CBI to further examine this possibility.

  • Duo Killed For Fun: The meticulous manner in which the bodies of the victims were chopped has led the police to explore the possibility that both Pandher and Koli derived pleasure from the very act of killing.

  • Victims Better Dead: After subjecting the children to sexual abuse, the two may have thought it best to kill them rather than risk relatives lodging police complaints.

***

"People like Moninder Singh Pandher can be very charming and caring if they want to be. In fact, they may appear normal to people around them. They have this remarkable ability of hiding their other darker self from the world."

—Dr Rajat Mitra, crime psychologist
working closely with the Delhi police
and who visited Nithari after the
serial killings came to light


Moninder Pandher and his accomplice Surindra Koli after arrest

If one reads 52-year-old Moninder Singh Pandher's bio data there is nothing to suggest a Jekyll and Hyde personality trapped within the recesses of a disturbed mind. Enrolled in the elite Bishop Cotton School, Shimla—class of 1973—history graduate from Delhi's prestigious St Stephen's College, middle-level businessman, a not-so-caring husband, devoted father. Many of those who knew him in school can't believe that "Goldy" Pandher—a regular nice kid who did not smash windows or bunk class—could have been involved with his servant, Surindra Koli, a seventh class dropout, in a spree of gruesome serial killing of children that has shocked the entire nation.

Urbane and educated, Moninder may have had a taste for expensive whisky and wine. But the police interrogation of this businessman and his servant accomplice, and the subsequent narco tests conducted on the duo, reveal that Moninder had a diseased and perverted side to him. He sexually abused women and children and he was certainly aware that the bodies of his victims were chopped into pieces, then disposed of in a drain outside his double-storeyed bungalow in the posh Sector 31 of Noida. While Moninder has been described by the police as a tough nut to crack, his partner in crime, Koli, has been singing. He not only confessed to his role in the diabolical crimes but has also admitted to heinous acts of necrophilia and cannibalism.

Narco-analysis tests conducted on Moninder and Koli at the Forensic Science Laboratory in Gandhinagar have been revealing.

 
 
Moninder admitted in the narco test that he left his wife as she refused his perverse demands.
 
 
Though the results of these tests are not admissible in court, sources say many startling facts have emerged. The truth serum made Moninder admit that he was estranged from his wife because she refused to give in to many of his sexual demands. According to him, he wanted her to participate in sexual orgies "involving many women". He admitted to having orgies in his Noida residence in his wife's absence—she having moved to Chandigarh a year ago. When seized by sexual frenzy, Moninder would be like an animal. "It could be anybody. A girl or a boy, teenager or a mere child. That is what is emerging from the narco-analysis test,'' a senior UP police official told Outlook.


Skeletons were found in this drain outside Pandher's house

The police found 17 skulls and a large number of bones from the drain outside the Noida house, indicating that the number of victims could be higher than the 17 located so far. Inside Moninder's bungalow they found surgical knives, gloves, a butcher's knife, a large number of blood-stained clothes, undergarments and school bags strewn around. A variety of pornographic material—books, magazines and movies—were recovered from Moninder's bedroom.

The not-so-imposing yellow bungalow, last in the lane and well shielded by trees, offers little glimpse of the people residing inside.

 
 
He was a regular, nondescript boy in school. Many class fellows don’t even remember him.
 
 
The police party which went in on December 29 says the calm facade was misleading. "In the five-room bungalow, we found blood-stains on the floor of one bathroom, in the lobby and vomit on the sofa—probably of Payal, one of the girls murdered in the house," an official told Outlook. It was Payal's father's persistence that led the police to stumble on the series of horrific crimes happening right under their nose.

According to a senior official who interrogated the master and servant, Moninder showed no signs of remorse when confronted with the photographs and the remains of the children. "He kept repeating he was a lonely man who desired companionship and often directed his servant Koli to fetch women. Kisi ko bhi lao. Koi bhi chalega. (Fetch me someone. Anyone will do) was the constant refrain," recalls the official. On the other hand, when Koli, father of a three-year-old daughter, was shown the remains of the children, he broke down and confessed to sexually abusing and killing them.


Police chase Nithari residents trying to ransack Pandher's house

So who is the real Moninder Singh Pandher? Narender Chauhan, secretary, rural development in the Himachal Pradesh government, remembers Moninder in Bishop Cotton school. He was neither a loner nor a bully, he says. Another Moninder contemporary recalls him as ordinary.

 
 
Insiders disclose that Moninder’s father too was a womaniser. He had lost his mother very young.
 
 
"Just the usual, friendly boy. Not brilliant to get into IIT as the top five students in the class of 1973 were, but not a dud either," he says. Moninder's St Stephen's College contemporaries, from where he passed out in 1977, do not remember him at all. "Are you sure you have the year right? It's strange that we can't seem to remember him at all," said one of his batchmates.

But then it was not all about an unassuming boy turning into a psychopath. As Outlook met Moninder's relatives, the picture that emerged was that of a man who had a troubled past and who was a loner. He lost his mother when he was young and was brought up by his father who was known for his womanising ways. Moninder was a failed businessman who ran down his father's transport business from 200 trucks to 25. He grew up to have bitter fights with his brother and sister which continue to this day.

In fact, ever since his grisly activities in Noida came to light, neither his wife nor his siblings have tried to meet him and organise help and support. The huge 2,000-square-yard family home in Chandigarh's sector 27 has a posse of policemen outside, and few visitors, except from the media.

Moninder is estranged from his elder brother Iqbal Singh and his sister Manjit Kochhar over his late father Sampooran Singh Pandher's property. Moninder's brother and sister see him as the usurper of most of their father's wealth. They allege that he fabricated Sampooran's will which has led to a bitter battle between the siblings. Both Manjit and Iqbal have been disinherited in the will. Family sources disclose that there were frequent fights over the property.

Both Moninder and his brother are well known for their drinking binges. Iqbal, now in his sixties, is in a disoriented state, while Moninder's liver and pancreas have suffered extensive damage. Moninder comes through as a debauched man trying hard to stay away from alcohol and struggling to rebuild the family business which once flourished under his father. His womanising is also something of an open secret in the family. Even son Karan, when asked whether it was true that call girls used to frequent the Noida house, admitted, "He was alone there so he may have brought girls there."

According to relatives, Moninder had begun to show signs of cracking lately. At his nephew's wedding reception last month in Chandigarh, he came drunk and flew into a rage when he saw his brother's family. He later walked out of the reception. Recalls a family member: "I really thought he had lost it from the manner in which he was behaving that day."

For years the entire Pandher clan lived together in their Chandigarh house till 2001, when Iqbal and his family were evicted. But relatives say that though they were ostensibly living as a joint family, the atmosphere at home completely lacked any warmth. "Even though we were all living under one roof for many years, we hardly ever communicated with each other or had meals together. It was very odd," disclosed a member of the household.

In recent years, Moninder had become a rare visitor to Chandigarh and preferred to live most of the time in the Noida house which he bought in March 2004. In June 2005, his wife Davinder Kaur suddenly returned to Chandigarh. Though she told Outlook that she "came back to look after her ailing father-in-law", Moninder's relatives insist that she had serious problems with her husband. "It is much more than a tiff. Perhaps she saw or sensed something which she could not stomach," remarked a family member. Many in the family believe that it was Davinder Kaur's decision to move out of the Noida house that has brought things to such a pass.

Extra-marital liaisons is something Moninder has lived with most of his life. Family insiders disclose that his father was involved with several women after his wife's death. One woman, Jasmer Kaur, was living in the Pandher family home in Chandigarh till Sampooran Singh died last May. He had willed certain properties to her too. It's only after his death that Jasmer Kaur was evicted from the house by Moninder.

During his interrogation, Moninder kept reiterating that he was a lonely man. But he provided no further insight into why he indulged in acts of sexual perversion and murder. According to clime psychologist Rajat Mitra, Moninder may probably have developed perverse tendencies much earlier in life. "There are definite pathways people take to become deviant or diabolical. It would normally take 25-30 years for a person to reach the stage where Pandher is. He had become too confident that he could get away with anything, even throwing the bodies in the drain.''

According to Mitra, narco-analysis and brain-mapping cannot be real indicators of a person's psyche. "Both Pandher and Koli appear to be hardened criminals. It is not easy to access information that such people want to hide even through tests. A person may or may not tell the truth. He may even not be rational. The narco-analysis tests claim to access another level of consciousness. However, one cannot alter consciousness to gather information that investigators may need. That is why there is no alternate to the age-old process of interviewing, and that too by experts. That is the only way to understand how their mind functions," he explains. What could the Moninder-Surendra relationship be like? Mitra says there seems to be a strong symbiotic attachment. "There is a camaraderie that binds them together. They are not likely to betray each other. For people like them, it is them versus the society. In their mind, they are not doing anything wrong," he says

Now that the case has been handed over to the CBI, there might be a second round of narco-analysis tests in Bangalore. Also, one of the CBI teams is already in touch with psychoanalysts and crime psychologists to get a better insight into the working of such skewed minds. "We plan to subject Pandher and Koli to psychoanalysis to get to know their motive clearly. So far, they have only been interrogated by the police and not by professionals," a CBI officer told Outlook.

He is hopeful that a clearer picture will emerge in the days to come. As for the families of the victims, the cash and plots offered by the UP government provides little solace. "I do not want either the money or the land. I have one demand: punish the guilty," insists Mukesh Kumar. He learnt of his five-year-old daughter's death when he saw Surindra Koli admit on television that he had killed her. Other villagers say that their hopes are now pinned on a CBI investigation. They have little faith in the local police. A speedy yet thorough investigation alone can restore their faith in the system.


By Bhavna Vij-Aurora, Anuradha Raman in Delhi and Chander Suta Dogra in Chandigarh with Debarshi Dasgupta

A few grisly crimes in the country in the last six months
noida
Conceived as a model district, Noida today lacks any semblance of law and order
cover story: crime
The Nithari killings has the UP opposition baying for the state government's blood
Sharat Pradhan
 
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Feb 18, 2008 12:00 AM
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' The not-so-imposing yellow bungalow, last in the lane and well shielded by trees, offers little glimpse of the people residing inside. The police party which went in on December 29 says the calm facade was misleading. "In the five-room bungalow, we found blood-stains on the floor of one bathroom, in the lobby and vomit on the sofa—probably of Payal, one of the girls murdered in the house," an official told Outlook. '
1) AS can be seen from the following footage, Pandher's house, D-5, has a house on either side. It cannot therefore be described as a corner house.
http://www.ibnlive.com/...r-inept-noida-cops.html


2) It is not a 'yellow-coloured' house, but white in colour, as can also be seen from the same footage.

3) The reason why the house D-5 can be seen so clearly in this footage is because the house is not 'well-shielded by trees', though the OUTLOOK article says that it is.

4) Payal disappeared on May 7, 2006. It is presumed that she died on the same day. How can the 'vomit on the sofa' be Payal's, isn't she long dead ?

5) How has reporting of this kind got past the Editor of OUTLOOK? Maybe he was away shopping for Parmesan cheese in Venice, or away in UK to - Research Prostitution In England.
outlook reader
lucknow, India
Jan 19, 2007 12:00 AM
28
Assuming the evidence against the two accused in this matter properly adds up, I believe this qualifies as amongst "the rarest of the rare cases", as defined in Indian jurisprudence, that merits capital punishment.

ABESH CHOUDHURY, LAWYER, LONDON, ENGLAND
Abesh
London, United Kingdom
Jan 17, 2007 12:00 AM
27
In proceedings at London court India's best known
supreme court lawyer appearing for the accused said:
"Indian Police are the most corrupt, dishonest,
vicious and murderous in the world."

The Plea was accepted by the Court.
Indian Police is known Biggest Mafia in Uniform.

There is CRIMINAL + POLITICAL + POLICE NEXUS IN NITHARI KILLINGS
Gope Lalwani
Chalfont Pennsylvania, United States
Jan 16, 2007 12:00 AM
26
“These two proved an age-old belief wrong that everybody carries an ‘Animal Instinct’, because ‘Animals’ too have some ethics – they don’t eat their own clan.”
Rajneesh Batra
New Delhi, India
Jan 15, 2007 12:00 AM
25
Joseph:

Prostitution not a worry?

Thank you very much for putting forward the Pakistani view frankly. You are highly moral.

By the way, I find there are many critics of Pakistan among Christians who have emigrated. I keep fighting back on behalf of Pakistan. My hope is that Pakistan will becomne rich and take in masses on Indian Muslims. That would be a win-win-win situation.

Parbat Laldeng
Denver, United States
Jan 15, 2007 12:00 AM
24
Nandu says,

>> "Mr joseph from pakistan.. Do you remember two years ago in pakistan a man was arrested for RAPING AND KILLING ATLEAST 100 CHILDREAN??"

So now you and Joseph are even. Congratulations again!
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
Jan 15, 2007 12:00 AM
23
i was hedging my bets on the number of pages before this article turn into hindu vs muslim vs west battlefield. Well, here it comes and we are in the page 4, with remarkable people like nandu, was a matter of time, wasn't it?
nits
nashville, USA
Jan 15, 2007 12:00 AM
22
"If this can happen in a conservative and "GOD fearing" society of Pakistan, what chance India has got when we are following blindly the western civilisation."

Look at the irony in this. The person cooling his a** off in London is talking like this. Looks like a typical communist propaganda (statements like this make me lose whatever respect I have for RSS as the biggest voluntary organization in the world). Why blame the west for everything? And western civilization has got many positives too (entrepreneurship, innovative skills to name just a few). So why don't you take the positives and ignore the negatives. That's why I think one must be taught good values aka moral education starting from an young age so that she can differentiate between good and bad, right and wrong.
ARVIND
ROCHESTER, United States
Jan 15, 2007 12:00 AM
21
Prostitution as between consenting adults is the least of India's worries. It is the fallout and extensions that are worrisome. Examples of these are manifold.
Joseph
Karachi, Pakistan
Jan 15, 2007 12:00 AM
20
Mr. A. K. Ghai must get the award for tunnel-visioned paranoia about Islam, Muslims, Pakistan and Terrorism.

There is so much luridly vulgar going on in India since the New Year began. Yet he continues to say nothing about it. He seems to be obsessed by happenings outside his borders.

I would be happy to hear from him on the anarchy in Assam, the deaths near Delhi, the murders in Mumbai, the bedlam in Bangalore and the use of the Army and other para-military forces in N. E. F. A.

I ask this because it rinforces my thesis that most Indians have blinkered-visions about India huge under-belly.

Joseph
Karachi, Pakistan
Jan 15, 2007 12:00 AM
19
Mr. A. K. Ghai must get the award for tunnel-visioned paranoia about Islam, Muslims, Pakistan and Terrorism.

There is so much luridly vulgar going on in India since the New Year began. Yet he continues to say nothing about it. He seems to be obsessed by happenings outside his borders.

I would be happy to hear from him on the anarchy in Assam, the deaths near Delhi, the murders in Mumbai, the bedlam in Bangalore and the use of the Army and other para-military forces in N. E. F. A.

I ask this because it rinforces my thesis that most Indians have blinkered-visions about India huge under-belly.

Joseph
Karachi, Pakistan
Jan 15, 2007 12:00 AM
18
Mr. A. K. Ghai must get the award for tunnel-visioned paranoia about Islam, Muslims, Pakistan and Terrorism.

There is so much luridly vulgar going on in India since the New Year began. Yet he continues to say nothing about it. He seems to be obsessed by happenings outside his borders.

I would be happy to hear from him on the anarchy in Assam, the deaths near Delhi, the murders in Mumbai, the bedlam in Bangalore and the use of the Army and other para-military forces in N. E. F. A.

I ask this because it rinforces my thesis that most Indians have blinkered-visions about India huge under-belly.
Joseph
Karachi, Pakistan
Jan 15, 2007 12:00 AM
17
Assuming the evidence against the two accused in this matter properly adds up, I believe this qualifies as amongst "the rarest of the rare cases", as defined in Indian jurisprudence, that merits capital punishment.

ABESH CHOUDHURY, LAWYER, LONDON, ENGLAND
Abesh
London, United Kingdom
Jan 15, 2007 12:00 AM
16
sickness of human mind.

shmpradeep.blogspot.com
Pradeep Sharma
Mumbai, India
Jan 15, 2007 12:00 AM
15
The most revealing statement of this article: "Other villagers say that their hopes are now pinned on a CBI investigation. They have little faith in the local police". Deterrence in the form of trustworthy policing may not prevent all gruesome crimes but that is one thing that can be done. All the hullabaloo about narco-analysis and other pointless things reveal nothing other than possible individual mental deviation against which there is no cure.
Akhil
Chicago, United States
Jan 15, 2007 12:00 AM
14
arvind, the article i sent was deplorable not only because of sexual exploitation, but because
the 16 yr old girl was "sexually assaulted by a series of men over a 40-day period in 1996. The accused, initially estimated at 42, included some well-known and well-placed individuals"
read well-placed again. and because of the way judiciary handled the case.

Now, read these statistics

http://www.pucl.org/fro.../Child/prostitution.htm

Many surveys have been conducted to find out the extent of child prostitution. Dr. Gilada's paper on perspectives and positional problems of social intervention" shows that,
"70% of women are forced into prostitution and 20% of these are child prostitutes."

Statistics of the survey done show:-

City Population Prostitute Population

Bombay 10 million 100,000

Calcutta 9 million 100,000

Delhi 7 million 40,000

Agra 3 million 40,000

A survey conducted by Indian Health Organization of a red light area of Bombay shows:-

1. 20% of the one lakh prostitutes are children.
2. 25% of the child prostitutes had been abducted and sold.
3. 6% had been raped and sold.
4. 8% had been sold by their fathers after forcing them into incestuous relationships.
5. 2 lakh minor girls between ages 9yrs-20yrs were brought every year from Nepal to India and 20,000 of them are in Bombay brothels.
6. 15% to 18% are adolescents between 13 yrs and 18 yrs.
7. 15% of the women in prostitution have been sold by their husbands
8. Of 200m suffering from sexually transmitted diseases in the world 50m alone were in India.
9. 15% of them are devdasis.

or better , google the word and find more. That is why i am saying, if you don;t recognize there is a problem, forget about solving it

nits
nashville, USA
Jan 15, 2007 12:00 AM
13
"This was a national news.. that is why i highlighted it. Now my earnest question to you is .. did you ever hear about it.. if yes, then did you remember it.. or since this case did not fit in your "indians in general have good moral values" theory.. you did not take it into account in forming a judgement"

OK I have to confess I never heard of that news. Part of the reason might be because almost 2 years back I was not that earnest in reading the newspapers or Outlook. But anyhow, i can understand what happened and as bad and deplorable as what happened might have been, the news is not as appalling and shocking because of three reasons:
a. no child abuses involved
b. no multiple murders involved (in Noida case the persons might have "killed for pleasure")
c. I can understand what the main motive is for the perpetrators of the crime in Kerala: money. Not some "random killings" of a raving flesh-eating lunatic like in Noida (police have also ruled out organ trade as motive).

This crime looks like one of those Law and Order SVU episodes and plz. don't tell me abuse against children and killings have been happening in India. The worst part is, if I'm correct, the guy who owns the house in Noida is supposedly well-off so why the murders unless the guy has some mental problems?
ARVIND
ROCHESTER, United States
Jan 15, 2007 12:00 AM
12
arvind writes " Atleast my state in India, TN (and even Kerala), I think is safe from animals like this guy.".
well you must be kidding. do you remember the school girl sex scandal.. 16-year-old school girl from Suryanelli? and remember how the whole system worked to exploit her. if you don;t here is the link.

http://www.thehindu.com...es/2005062600220400.htm


quote from this article..
" This is a serious fallout in view of growing evidence of an increase in sexual violence against women, as well as organized sex rackets designed to ensnare young women as well as minor girls, in Kerala."

This was a national news.. that is why i highlighted it. Now my earnest question to you is .. did you ever hear about it.. if yes, then did you remember it.. or since this case did not fit in your "indians in general have good moral values" theory.. you did not take it into account in forming a judgement. I am not asking this to ridicule you.. i am just curious as i said in first post.. how urban indian upper middle class still believe in the shangri-la, that is , india

Besides, kerala has become a porno hub for desee grown videos. Not particularly lifting finger at one state.. but in reference to your belief
nits
nashville, USA
Jan 15, 2007 12:00 AM
11
"Well, what timescale do you live in? When was the last time you were in india? and when you were india, how could you but not notice the signs."

Just because I talked about rishis and sufi saints didn't mean that I was living in the ancient India or that I have lost touch with India recently. Hell, no. I was probably there more recently than you were. The point is that rishis/saints need not live today for anyone to follow/assimilate their teachings. Anyways, that's beside the point. You said signs. What specific signs do you mean? Can you give some examples?

"he was being sarcastic against the indian yuppies"

So just because of some ba**ards like this killer now yuppies are being stereotyped. Great. Poor them. They work in graveyard shifts in poor s**tty conditions for something like 10K or so and now they have to face the music for things like this s**t.

"well, trust me he is worth it. for he is not 1 in a million , but tens in a million"

why don't I believe you? I dunno. Maybe it's because I think Indians in general have good values and moral principles. Atleast my state in India, TN (and even Kerala), I think is safe from animals like this guy. Probably because of the impetus on education they want to study hard and get the f**k out of there (Maybe not good for India in the long run, but hey atleast it aint that bad). And even those who can't get out have good values and are too busy working their a** off.
ARVIND
ROCHESTER, United States
Jan 15, 2007 12:00 AM
10
see this is what i am talking about in last paras of my previous post.
Arvind writes " I would have never, even in my wildest of dreams, thought that something like this would happen in India and I am shocked...This is the land of vyas, vasishta and other rishis"
Well, what timescale do you live in? When was the last time you were in india? and when you were india, how could you but not notice the signs.

BTW ASDF was obviously being sarcastic.. i don;t understand how could you miss that.. he was being sarcastic against the indian yuppies.

then you write " Do we have to spend the money and time on this a***ole? He aint worth it."
well, trust me he is worth it. for he is not 1 in a million , but tens in a million..at least
nits
nashville, USA
Jan 14, 2007 12:00 AM
9
Forget about law and order. As I have said before, I am not a big fan of the Indian police or the criminal justice system in India. I have more belief in Karma and think that the biggest punishment is when a person starts feeling guilty. But s**t. Though NITS may try to downplay this, I would have never, even in my wildest of dreams, thought that something like this would happen in India and I am shocked, appalled and alarmed. Where are the basic moral values? This is the land of vyas, vasishta and other rishis and other sufi saints (hey trying to be secular here since this is outlook). Where are the basic principles which make you a human being and distinct from an animal?

ASDF either you are being too sarcastic (I can't see the sarcasm) or you are one crazy b**tard. I mean kill people because they don't know English? What the f**k you are talking about? And jus because a person is illiterate doesn't mean he is ignorant, you moron.

Chaitanya, what debate? What f***in debate do we need on this?Like whether it was right or wrong? Liek what are the root causes? Like what are the ulterior motive which prompted the SOB to do this? Bulls**t. Do we have to spend the money and time on this a***ole? He aint worth it. We have enough graver problems already in the nation which need to be addressed. Put this guy in a mental asylum or better yet in a zoo.

That said, the basic point is that we should teach the kids basic moral values. Moral education should be mandatory and kids should be taught shlokas or kabir's couplets (I don't care) which impart basic principles. That alone can put an end to these kind of things.

A similar thing happened in Germany. But it was different in that the victim willingly allowed himself to be "sacrificed" (what a wacko world we live in). The German "industrial music" band wrote the song Mein Teil (My Part) about it.

Anways as it is said:
If wealth is lost nothing is lost.
If health is lost something is lost.
If character is lost everything is lost.

We all should remember that. Without character and principles, we are no different from animals.
ARVIND
ROCHESTER, United States
Jan 14, 2007 12:00 AM
8
Why do we leave recording FIRs at the discretion of police. I would say it is the right time to give an alternative - Websites. Let there be NGO's which can move through the illiterate people and record their complaints into the FIR website.
Navin
Delhi, India
Jan 14, 2007 12:00 AM
7
Why this incident is labelled as Nithari serial killings rather than Noida serial killings. The national and local media's protective attitude towards Property prices in Noida (image of NOIDA) has denied sppedy justice to the victim's family. The UP government has shown in the past cases that they do their best to protect NOIDA's image. My view is that they would have succeeded in buying media to label this incident as Nithari killings. With this mission accomplished UP government slept on issue.
Navin
Delhi, India
Jan 13, 2007 12:00 AM
6
Well, many are surprised but i am not. There is a visible degradation of values in india, especially north. Going out with a female relative to public places is almost a tense and nightmarish experience. When in college, i remember that eve teasing and non-veg jokes were part of the normal macho exercise. Besides this few more questions:
1) why is media suprised, dont they know that india has among the highest no. of child prostitues in the world?
2) don;t they know that getting a FIR registered is not for weak. It is estimated that no more than 5% of the cases ever get registered, if the victim decides to come fwd, ie.
3) Just after this incident, 2 people in hyderabad confessed to sodomizing and killing 9 people, whose skulls were recovered. Then bodies of 4 more kids were found in a Punjab mill owned by brar, a state minister. WHY were these stories not highlighted?? Did media decide by itself that highlighting these will cause damage to public psyche? if yes, is media mature and capable and righteous enough to take such decisions instead of just reporting news as it is?

And finally , our upper middle class. I have tried hard to reason how come they believe that India is a Utopian land! I guess it has to do with selective input of information that people have. they already have a view, and absorb only those stories that corroborate them.

Solutions are plenty, but first we need to recognize that there is a grave problem with the psyche of people, for, if you don't identify the problem, how do you even hope to solve it.
nits
nashville, USA
Jan 13, 2007 12:00 AM
5
Moninder Singh ate children who do not speak English. These children would have grown up to be uncultured hoodlums, who only bring shame to India, and are bad for India's image abroad as a nation of English-speaking people. More educated people like Monider should have the courage to kill more children who do not know English, so that the percentage of English speaking people in India grows. And if you are going to kill these ignorant uncivilized children, why all this squeamishness about eating them? Moninder Singh should be given an award as the Indian of the Year. Not only has he helped the Indian economy and India’s image abroad, he has also made a contribution to solving the twin problems of population and poverty. The best way of eradicating the poverty is to eradicate the poor.
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Jan 13, 2007 12:00 AM
4
Faruki-our police is really criminal and is always ready to be sold to rich.
A K GHAI
MUMBAI, India
Jan 13, 2007 12:00 AM
3
The police investigation of this case is one of the most shameful and egregious examples of official action or inaction that I have ever encountered. If this is typical of how the police operate, we are much worse off than I had thought.

As for the perpetrators, they just make me sick.
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
Jan 13, 2007 12:00 AM
2
There are millions like these two,in our nation.
K.V.Sadasivan
Bharuch, India
Jan 13, 2007 12:00 AM
1
Entire process of investigation itself was nothing but farce. It is clearly indicating that poor servant already termed as manian etc...will be made as scapegoat. There is definitely Organ trade involved in this and including media (plus investigations) is trying to hide it by sensationalizing stories like serial killing, eating flesh, sexual abuse etc.

No uneducated person like Surender Kohli can even think of performing such hinius crime of chopping human bodies with clinical precision, dissolve parts in acide and contnue to do this for years!

Sophistication of killing many and keeping away from public scrutiny is simply not possible for people who are working as “Servants”.

As far as this case is concerned, guilt will be let go scott free and farce investigation which will carefully safe-gaurd medical frantities from further scrutiny. It is over all sham and poor servant may be hanged. Monidar will have nice luxury life in Canada few years from now.

Long live Indian demoCRACY!
Ram
Kerela, India
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