gujarat: aamir boycott
Say Sorry Or Be Sorry
That's the ultimatum the state's served on Aamir and his film for speaking his mind Updates
interview
Calm, a little philosophical, but resolute, the star says in an interview from Madrid that he has no regrets about his stance, and that he won't say sorry
Namrata Joshi
Dushman Number One makes for a catchy film title, but right now it's a real-life role for actor Aamir Khan, assigned to him by BJP functionaries in Gujarat. Announcing the campaign against the screening of his new film Fanaa in Gujarat, the national general secretary of the BJP Yuva Morcha, Amit Thaker, declared: "Not for the next 50 years will we allow any Aamir Khan film in Gujarat, unless he tenders a public apology."

According to Thaker, Aamir's insulted the five-crore population of Gujarat by supporting the Narmada Bachao Andolan and taking an anti-Gujarat stand on the dam issue, as well as by making "nasty" comments about Gujarat chief minister Narendra Modi. While the state government and BJP spokespersons in Delhi have denied that they have anything to do with the BJP Yuva Morcha's campaign, it is common enough knowledge here that nothing within either the government or the BJP in Gujarat moves without Narendra Modi's clearance.

Thaker insists the decision not to screen Fanaa was made by the cinema and multiplex owners in Gujarat. "They are also a part of Gujarat and have chosen to go along with the sentiment of the people of the state, which is overwhelmingly against Aamir," he says. Maybe, but did the message from the saffron camp leave theatre owners with any other choice?

When asked what the losses would be if Fanaa were not screened, Manubhai Patel, president of the multiplexes association in Gujarat, had a telling answer. "It will be less than what will be incurred by showing the film," he said. For the record, however, Patel was quick to add that he too felt Aamir had erred. "Aamir Khan chose to speak on the Narmada issue without understanding anything about it," he said. "He has hurt the sentiments of the people of Gujarat and must apologise. Gujaratis are gracious and will forgive him." Harish Patel, who heads the Gujarat cinema association, echoed his views. Both represent 22 multiplexes and 425 cinema halls in Gujarat.

Thaker is categorical he'll hit Aamir where it hurts most: "We have decided to even prevent the circulation of video CDs of his film. Subsequently, all the corporates who use him to advertise their products will be targeted, whether it is Coke or Titan or somebody else. No hoarding carrying Aamir Khan's pictures will be permitted in the state," he says.

"This is proof that in the aftermath of the communal riots of 2002, Gujarat has become a fascist state," comments Hiren Gandhi, a leading theatre personality whose play Suno Nadiya Kya Kehti Hai was virtually banned. Dancer Mallika Sarabhai, who has often faced saffronite wrath, terms it a sad day for democracy when one cannot express an opinion without being labelled a terrorist or a demon. "It is not just about Fanaa-the tendency is growing all over the country," she says.

The Gujarat Congress, which had gone along with the Modi government on the stalling of Aamir starrer Rang De Basanti, is fence-sitting this time. Says state Congress spokesperson Hasmukh Patel, "The move to stop screening is a political one aimed at curbing the freedom of expression, as well as communally motivated. Arundhati Roy has also been speaking out on the dam issue. Why has she not been targeted?" he asks, even as he hastens to add that showing or not showing Fanaa is between theatre owners and distributors.

For noted documentary filmmaker Pravin Mishra, it's all a game of politics. "You have to create hate characters if you must play the saviour role. From Mian Musharraf via James Lyngdoh to Saifuddin Soz and now Aamir. The actor is a popular figure among the middle and poorer classes, so he's the best target. That's how the game has to continue." Who cares if it means doom for Fanaa.
interview
Calm, a little philosophical, but resolute, the star says in an interview from Madrid that he has no regrets about his stance, and that he won't say sorry
Namrata Joshi
 
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Jun 02, 2006 12:00 AM
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Anand, excellent observation about Gujarat. India's achievements in information technology are of course, highly commendable. But there's more to the Indian economy than IT! In pharmaceuticals, chemicals, petrochemicals, fertilisers, petroleum and engineering, Gujarat is at or near the top. Go Guajarat!
Varun Shekhar
Toronto, CANADA
Jun 02, 2006 12:00 AM
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Now Andhra Pradesh and Meghalaya join in and ban DVC..


http://in.rediff.com/mo.../2006/jun/02davinci.htm


Both ruled by the Congress.. Secularism Zindabad..

Waiting for an editorial in mainstream media on this ..We have had many already on the Fanaa issueissue so far
shankar
Mumbai, India
Jun 01, 2006 12:00 AM
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Tamil Nadu suspends screening of The Da Vinci Code ..


http://www.hindu.com/20...es/2006060112440100.htm


As the movie is not Fanaa and the state is not Gujarat, this news can be conveniently buried and papered over..besides M Karunanidhi is the darling of the "secular" media..
shankar
Mumbai, India
May 30, 2006 12:00 AM
30
Shankar,

>> Ban on Fanaa in Gujart = Goondagiri. Ban on DVC by Congress CMs of Goa,Punjab = I am against bans, but these had "controversial contents"..so..Hmm. We can see your consistency quite well.

I have said more than once that I am against both bans. TDVC was banned in some states by the state government machinery, whereas Fanaa is being prevented from being shown in multiplexes by mob threats (goondagiri). One has controversial content, the other has a star whom the mob wants silenced. I am afraid I cannot make it any easier than that for you.
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
May 30, 2006 12:00 AM
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there may be some prosperity in some places of Gujarat but overall I dont think its a progressive place.
Its very difficult for non-vegetarians to get a house in Gujurat and there is just too much religion in public sphere. Morever Gujarat is not doing well in modern industry such as IT which maybe due the narrowmindedness of the polity there which may be affecting peoples skill sets.
Kiran
Hyderabad, India
May 30, 2006 12:00 AM
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"Gujarat has become a regressive place lately. I think politically, it is going down the drains now, even lower than Bihar. A monster like Modi is re-elected, despite bringing death and destruction to so many people"

" India can do without self-serving scoundrels like Modi. "

Well, recently there was an article in the Indian Express about the State PSUs in Gujarat. The synopsis is as follows:

a) GSFC had registered losses of Rs 390 crore in 2002-03. The next year it showed a Rs 42 crore profit. In 2004-05 the profit rose to Rs 252 crore, and in 2005-06 to Rs 437 crore.

b) Gujarat Electricity Board had accumulated losses of Rs 2,543 crore in 2000-01, which were wiped out eventually, and in 2005-06 it notched up a profit of Rs 200 crore.

c) GACL, which manufactures sodium hydroxide and related chemicals, had posted losses of Rs 66.28 crore in 2001-02. In 2005-06 it made a profit of Rs 293.80 crore.

d) Bharuch-based GNFC has shown improvement in profits, with figures rising from Rs 71.67 crore in 2001-02 to Rs 294.72 crore in 2005-06.

e) GIPC’s profits have risen from Rs 24.90 crore in 2001-02 to Rs 114.81 crore in 2005-06.

When most State PSUs (and some Central too) are bleeding the Govt of public money, there has been turn-around and improvement in the Gujarat PSUs. Ofcourse, the report also said that the Modi Govt did not allow political inteference in these PSUs and allowed them to be run by technocrats. In this age, when political parties hand-out positions as heads of PSU as favours, the loss making PSUs in Gujarat did not have any politicians heading them.

So, now the question is: should Modi be perennially judged for the Gujarat 02 riots or should some credit be given for his contribution to the state? Something similar happened to P V Narasimha Rao - his entire contribution is judged on the basis of the Babri demolition and not on the basis of the economic development we have had.
Srinivas
Delhi, India
May 30, 2006 12:00 AM
27
"Is that consistent or not?"

Ban on Fanaa in Gujart = Goondagiri

Ban on DVC by Congress CMs of Goa,Punjab = I am against bans, but these had "controversial contents"..so..Hmm

We can see your consistency quite well.
shankar
Mumbai, India
May 30, 2006 12:00 AM
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Al Bundy said: 'The state government definitely has a responsibility to openly declare that it shall provide security to any multiplex that wants to show the movie and round up the people who are issuing threats'

It is not the state government's business to make declarations of protection to movies. If any theater owner is feeling threatened, he should approach the police. But not a single owner has done so in Gujarat. That is because the protest against Amir Khan's film is virtually a people's protest.

The sign of real fascism was the protests witnessed against Danish Cartoons. Not one Indian publication printed them for fear that it could be attacked by militants.
V Rajan
Chennai (Madras), India
May 30, 2006 12:00 AM
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>> And what do you have to say to Congress CMs of Punjab and Goa, who have banned screening of DVC after the Censor board cleared it ?

I already said that I am against these kinds of bans. I said they were banned because of controversial content, but I at the same time said that I opposed those bans. Is that consistent or not?
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
May 30, 2006 12:00 AM
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"such threats against the multiplexes are unconstitutional, illegal and against our best traditions."

Narendra Modi has already assured full protection to any multiplex which wants to show the movie..but there are no takers.

And what do you have to say to Congress CMs of Punjab and Goa, who have banned screening of DVC after the Censor board cleared it ?

If they can ban DVC or Satanic verses , citing "controversial content", you should have no problem if movies Water or Fire or MF Husains paintings are banned on the same ground.

"It is not officially banned, but is prevented from release by goondagiri"

Will you say the same to CMs of Punjab and Goa ? or is Consistency not expected even here?
shankar
Mumbai, India
May 30, 2006 12:00 AM
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>> Far too many times, the governments and civil society have allowed themselves to be bullied by a small, slogan shouting crowd."

True. Religious zealotry is blind, and I do not have an answer for it. But in this case the issue is political, basically how strongly one feels about the rehabilitation of displaced adivaasis. If Aamir's being a Muslim has become an issue, that would represent a severe regression in our civility.
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
May 30, 2006 12:00 AM
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Aamir Khan is a great actor, handsome, no doubt. Even now a lot of Indian young girls keeping his photo and get delight by seeing him. Aamir has no right to talk about displaced people. He himself has displaced his wife from his house. But as you know most of the artists are always very sensitive and whimsical and unpredictable. Aamir Khan is only interested in making money either by film or by advertisements like coke. I personally feel that he is immature individual and we are giving him undue importance than he deserves. He never attended film award functions, because he things he is above all other artists. First let me clear that people of Gujarat opposing Aamir Khan for his support to Narmada Bachao Andolan (NBA). Without knowing the facts about the whole issue, he jumped into the controversy to gain publicity. He just saw the protestors of NBA in Delhi and without knowing single thing about Narmada dam, he joined them, is it rational?? Now even who are displaced due to Narmada dam don’t support NBA. People talk about freedom of speech and tolerance, but this does not imply to hurt sentiments of the people of state of Gujarat. People of Gujarat have tolerance but they also cannot allow others to take them as 'granted'. This is a good lesson for all those dumb movie stars. They must realize that just because they are portrayed as heroes in movies, does not mean people will accept whatever they say in reality. It is time India stops worshipping movie and sports stars - most of them are as dumb as dumb can be. This entire Bollywood movie stars, directors, producers, artists are thriving in underworld’s corrupt money, and they are the most corrupt people, corrupting Indian minds.
As far as his comments about Vadodara riots and CM of the state, nowadays any one can criticize Narendra Modi. And who is Aamir Khan and Teesta Setalwad part of? They are part of terrorist brigade of Muslims. During his interview with Shekhar Gupta in walk the talk; Aamir criticized Gujarat government, Gujarati people, Hindus in particular for what happened in Gujarat post Godhra. During the entire interview he did not say once that Muslims were the root cause of the problem.
If Aamir Khan is talking about Muslims being killed in Gujarat why is he silent about killing so many innocent people in J & K? Why he never talked about Mumbai riots during 1992 or Sikh riots during 1984 or recent Mau riots or Aligarh riots? Because they are not ruled by B.J.P.? Why he has to comment on Gujarat Government and President Bush? Aamir Khan you are small fly, but you have a big Himalayan ego. Why does not he make reference of terrorism? These film stars need trivial publicity. After earth quake in Gujarat in January 2001, Aamir declared help in re-construction of village in which he made film. Ironically he has never turned up since than. That was real publicity stunt for Lagaan as that was going to be released in May 2001. For Fanna he is doing the same thing. Aamir, you just visit rehabilitation Center and check the fact. If he really wanted to do protest than he would have joined Medha with hunger strike. Instead he made a statement about NBA by sitting in air-conditioned house to draw attention. Aamir - just go and see the protest, which AIMS-Delhi students are making against reservation from last 15 days. Also, where is your nation - pride, helping hand in bringing poor up when you steal income tax by hiding real income? Aamir is silent on reservation policy, Kashmir problem. I believe he recently passed a comment on television praising Mr. Musharraf and how he would love to act in a Pakistani movie to improve the relations with the two countries. I rest my case.
george james
Virar, India
May 30, 2006 12:00 AM
21
>> "are unconstitutional, illegal and against our best traditions"

Ghulam,
We are basically saying the same thing here. My concerns are with our "traditions" in this aspect though. Far too many times, the governments and civil society have allowed themselves to be bullied by a small, slogan shouting crowd. Worse, such instances seem to be happening more frequently, with the governments caving in too easily. That's the reason, I don't have much hope of Modi, or any other chief minister doing much in this instance either.
Al Bundy
San Francisco, United States
May 30, 2006 12:00 AM
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>> "The state government definitely has a responsibility to openly declare that it shall provide security to any multiplex..."

And the Chief Minister has a duty to provide leadership and to say forcefully that such threats against the multiplexes are unconstitutional, illegal and against our best traditions. A Chief Minister does not have the luxury of a non-official person who may speak or not speak on any issue.
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
May 30, 2006 12:00 AM
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Al,

I am not totally sure myself, but I heard that The Da Vinci Code was banned in the Punjab and in Sri Lanka.
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
May 30, 2006 12:00 AM
18
>> "Even if the issues are the same in a dozen different cases, it does not mean that Aamir has to speak up on each and every one of them. Neither you nor I nor anyone else do that."

Agreed. At the same time, it is but natural that if such selectivity follows a pattern (which definitely seems to be happening in Aamir's case), it shall arouse misgivings and ridicule. It should not however degenerate to intimidation, threats or violence.

The state government definitely has a responsibility to openly declare that it shall provide security to any multiplex that wants to show the movie and round up the people who are issuing threats. At the same time, govts of Punjab, Goa and Nagaland have to make every effort to ensure that "Da Vinci code" is released.
Al Bundy
San Francisco, United States
May 30, 2006 12:00 AM
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>> "The Da Vinci Code and Satanic Verses were banned because of controversial content (I am against both those bans)."

Ghulam,
"Da Vinci Code" has not been banned. It has been cleared by the censor board (as well as by the super censors, the Catholic church and Priya Ranjan Das Munshi). Some state governments controlled by Congress have refused to release it. At least I am unaware of the reason behind this "ban".

Don't know what the law says on this? Do state governments have the authority to ban a movie cleared by censor board?
Al Bundy
San Francisco, United States
May 30, 2006 12:00 AM
16
==Rahul, Shankar,

The question here is not whether Aamir's views are right or wrong. The question is whether the state can use its machinery to prevent/punish a person because he expressed his opinion.

Whatever may be Aamir's view the state had no right to react the way it did. We ourselves in this forum keep expressing views which may be right or wrong. Can the state then use our views as an excuse to terrorize us?

What is happening to Aamir is totally wrong and BJP is treading on dangerous ground here by trying to suppress a dissenting view.

However Congress is also equally guilty of doing the same. The only difference is that while the media and all the assorted activists jump to their feet to raise a big hue and cry when BJP indulges in such activities, they immediately become silent and become defensive when Congress indulges in the same.




Navdeep Hans
Delhi, India
May 30, 2006 12:00 AM
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Shankar,

Even if the issues are the same in a dozen different cases, it does not mean that Aamir has to speak up on each and every one of them. Neither you nor I nor anyone else do that.

The Da Vinci Code and Satanic Verses were banned because of controversial content (I am against both those bans). Fanaa has no controversial content. It is not officially banned, but is prevented from release by goondagiri, just in order to restrict Aamir's right of free speech.
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
May 30, 2006 12:00 AM
14
Faruki -" And Aamir has a right to speak on just one issue, or two issues, or three issues, or on no issue at all. It is his choice. "

What happens when the issue is same and his response is different and is based on the religion of the affected?

2 examples to disprove your theory.

1.Aamir khan and Shabana have spoken extensively on the Gujarat Riots.Their point is that A State government ( Gujarat here ) failed to protect the life and dignity if its minorities ( muslims ). And they exercised their right to criticise the state government. But there was another recent incident where 39 Hindus were butchered and another state Government ( Jammu & Kashmir ) similarly failed to protect the life and dignity of its minorities ( hindus in this case ). And thousands of Pandits have been made refugees in their own country for years.. or the earlier 1984 riots where Congress goons butchered Sikhs in Delhi. Some of the goons are ministers in central govt now. Both of them are eloquently silent on these , although the issue is same in all 3 cases, i.e. a state government which failed to protect its minorities.

To sum it up, although there are 3 different incidents on the same issue, they will speak only on Gujarat,,where muslims are at the receiving end.

2. All the people who are supporting Aamir Khan and want Fanaa to be released in Gujarat, are strangely silent on the ban on Da Vinci Code by 2 congress ruled state governments, Goa and Punjab. Again same issue, i.e. freedom of expression and bans on movies, but different responses.Satanic Verses is still banned in India. Why not a protest in support of freedom of expression of Salman Rushdie and the Danish Cartoonists, whose works were never reproduced in India?

Is it too much to expect the response to be same , when the underlying issue is same?
shankar
Mumbai, India
May 30, 2006 12:00 AM
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Gujarat has become a regressive place lately. I think politically, it is going down the drains now, even lower than Bihar. A monster like Modi is re-elected, despite bringing death and destruction to so many people, and Aamir Khan is being targeted for speaking his mind about the dam, which is controversial anyway. The funniest part of all this is that a handful of powerful and well-connected people in Guyjarat have decided to ban the movie for political motives, and they claim to be speaking for all gujaratis!

I hope people of Gujarat wake up and stop these politicians from doing these silly things in their name. Otherwise, the state will really become a fascist regime.
kunal
denver, usa
May 30, 2006 12:00 AM
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Muslims Need Not Apply : PART 3.


http://tinyurl.com/kp94s
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
May 30, 2006 12:00 AM
11
>>People have every right to
>>refrain from seeing his movies
>>if they so wish, but they do
>>not have a right to prevent
>>others from enjoying his movies.

I entirely agree and have consistently argued the same. I think the same logic should also apply to Da Vinci Code in Punjab, Goa and Nagaland; to MF Hussain's paintings of Hindu goddesses and Bharat Mata; and of course, also to the Danish cartoons of Mohammed
Ajit Tendulkar
Seattle, United States
May 29, 2006 12:00 AM
10
Shankar,

>> "...people of Gujarat have every right to reject his views and boycott products he sells , including his movies"

People have every right to refrain from seeing his movies if they so wish, but they do not have a right to prevent others from enjoying his movies. And Aamir has a right to speak on just one issue, or two issues, or three issues, or on no issue at all. It is his choice.
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
May 29, 2006 12:00 AM
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>> "Aamir is a good actor, and I like him. But decency requires a balance."

Lalit,
Aamir, or Shabana or anyone else is not required to balance their criticism of one issue with criticism of another. They have a right to speak on issues that exercise them. We may not agree with them, and criticize them for being selective (don't we all do it though), but no one has a right to threaten violence and impose its will on others. The call by BJP Yuva Morcha, and supported by sections of Congress is without doubt wrong. Gujrati pride or any other reason is no excuse.
Al Bundy
San Francisco, United States
May 29, 2006 12:00 AM
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Aamir Khan has every right to say what he has to say..and people of Gujarat have every right to reject his views and boycott products he sells , including his movies , as long as the movement is non violent.( as of now, It is non violent)

Boycott of products is a democratic right..You can't force any one to buy / watch what they don't like..in the name of freedom of expression. Remember Mahatma Gandhi making bonfires of Foriegn made products during freedom struggle?

If Aamir Khan continues to talk selctively about issues with a communal tint,( e.g. Very strongly against violence in Gujarat , Silence on Massacre in Kashmir recently ) he will lose even the figleaf of respectability he has right now..atleast with a section of the people.

And why shoud he drag in BJP / Modi in all his TV interviews and demonise them?

Does he have anything to say against Governments of Goa and Punjab ( Both Congress) , which have banned the movie Da Vinci code ?
shankar
Mumbai, India
May 29, 2006 12:00 AM
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Tendulkar

People in Gujerat are fed of being attacked by
pontificating scum for all imagined wrongs. Narmada means a lot to them, and if you dont understand , then it confirms my poor opinion of you.

Its right to stand up for the right causes. However for muslims, all the right causes are when Hindus, Americans or the neighbours dog is at fault.

I dare Aamir to attack the hundred of hateful and dogmatic mullahs amongst his fellow muslims.
And start with D the muslims gangster politicians of UP, Bihar. Support the cartoonists whose life is being threatened by dogmatic muslims.

Yes condemn the entire muslim world for its silence on the genocide in Darfur.

Aamir is a good actor, and I like him. But decency requires a balance. Muslims are very appreciative when the inequities of other religionists is exposed. Shaban Azmi acted in water. Let her make a film about muslim widows.. If they dont have the courage to do so, then just shut up.

The Hindu middleclasses have the required brains,and conscience to correct their mistakes.
It will be done. Of that I am convinced.

lalit bagai
kalundborg, Brazil
May 29, 2006 12:00 AM
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Muslims Need Not Apply: PART 2.


http://tinyurl.com/gb9oq
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
May 28, 2006 12:00 AM
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And next time, before this blanket condemnation of athe whole middle class, do check your own Making a difference column sometimes. Do you think some aliens descend from Mars to do all those things? Check something called goodnewsindia.com. Check the voluntary work done by the middle class itself in charitable institutions. And if you are illiterate enough to have not read the view of the likes of Deepak Nayyar or Andre Bitelle, do get at least a synopsis of their published work. It might actually help expand your mind which seems incapable even of dealing with daily dog problems anyway.
Ajit Tendulkar
Seattle, United States
May 28, 2006 12:00 AM
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More power to Aamir Khan. Thank God that Vinod Mehta did not put in his less than two paisa worth of illogic in this story - though it would have been nice to have Congress party's own pathetic role in this to be exposed as well. BJP has not only shown its true colours, but it's good that it is making it obvious that they are not mistaken for anything else. The non-BJP politicians at least have the grace or the sense to condemn this totally reprehensible act. It is thanks to people like Aamir Khan, Pratap Bhanu Mehta and Andre Betelle (sp?) that this country survives and thrives. It is no thanks to people like Vinod Mehta, who in fact are part of the problem and not any solution.
Ajit Tendulkar
Seattle, United States
May 28, 2006 12:00 AM
3
Brother Goolam

You are always there for the muslims. Good, that some body cares for their interests.

However people like you will be more respected if you looked at other problems as well. Problems where it is the Hindus on the loseing end.

Maybe you have heard of Kashmir, where Hindus have been kicked out of their homes, never mind jobs. Where they are killed, and I am sure no muslims are bothered. Thats the universal opinion amongst us Hindus.

My opinion is that the two communiies should live separately, in different zones. That would bring peace, and remove the daily hassles. In fact the muslims prefer this in their countries, eg Pakistan and elsewhere.

There is no alternative. Lets not live a life of pretence.

Secular muslims, hindus and christians can live togather in bigger metroes. But here again people must give up their rigid religious attitudes. Thats the message being dished out in Europe, and in my view Europeans are far
better at takeing the right descions then Indians.
lalit bagai
kalundborg, Brazil
May 28, 2006 12:00 AM
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Muslims need not apply :


http://tinyurl.com/q8pha
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
May 28, 2006 12:00 AM
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BJP is being very stupid and childish by trying to traget Aamir for his remarks. They are misusing the state machinery to settle personal scores. More power to Aamir for standing upto these thugs and refusing to apologize.

Meanwhile it will do well for outlook to remember than when the state used a similar machinery to harass Mr. Bachchan to settle personal scores, Outlook was actually applauding the effort and also conveyed a veiled warning through their magazine to Mrs. Bachchan to not recontest so that a particular person may not be offended.

When it comes to using state machinery for their own agenda all parties are guilty of the same. Aamir has indeed set a good example by refusing to bow down and instead standing by his convictions.
Navdeep Hans
Delhi, India
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