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Why Delhi Sucks
What do prominent personalities from our other metros think of Delhi? Uncouth, power-obsessed, typically North Indian, morally bankrupt...take your pick
delhi
Political mecca, consumerist haven, now Metro chic... Delhi's all that. But it's also crass, crude and callous, a city sans a soul.
Anjali Puri

Bombay

Shobhaa De
Writer, social commentator

"The uncouthness begins at the airport itself where some fifth-grade politician's cousin eight times removed will strut around with three attendants behind him and throw weight at the check-in counter. Delhi guys need one man to handle their cellphones, another to hold papers, a third to carry the overnighter. And here in Mumbai, even someone like Ratan Tata walks by himself and checks in at the counter. That tells you everything."

Gerson da Cunha
Theatre and ad personality, civic activist

"Delhi is all about power. Power wielded by individuals at will and for their own exclusive benefit. Power flows from where you live and who you work for. Such is the spectrum of the power network that it tends to be used for the smallest of things, in a most irresponsible manner. That power is best typified by that man R.K. Dhawan, a typist who basked in the glory of power and even ran the country for a bit. This would be unthinkable in Mumbai."

Milind Deora
Politician, rock musician

"I find Delhi a lot less diverse than Mumbai. It's still a North Indian city and shows the typical attributes of one. Maybe because of this lack of diversity and plurality, there's a lot less tolerance in Delhi and that extends to social and cultural tolerance. The creative space is probably as vibrant as in Mumbai but there's an underlying sense of power play there, about who's in and who's at the top."


Bangalore

Girish Kasaravalli
Award-winning filmmaker

"I find Delhi very frightening. It has a very inhuman and arrogant look to it. I feel very insecure when I walk on the deserted streets of Lutyens' Delhi. The indifference of the place rubs on you when you walk in front of those huge sarkari bungalows. I am generally good at topography, but in Delhi nothing registers. It is a strange place that does not create a visual memory in my mind. I just can't read the place."

Kalyan Raman
Space scientist, telecom professional

"There is a void at the moral core of Dehi that is frightening. Even more than its fearful aspect, its brutalising effect is all-pervasive. It is not just the dodgy politicians but also that psychotic army of thin-faced, broad-belted, terylene-attired, bell-bottomed bad actors all over Central Delhi and visibly up to no good. These day-time migrants come from the badlands surrounding the city, preferring anonymous crime and petty larceny in the big city because they do not have the clout or the nerve to play the game at home. From here to the very top, there is collective reinforcement of a nihilist spirit, of moral bankruptcy."


Calcutta

Amit Chaudhuri
Novelist

"The early '80s saw the beginning of the move to reinvent Delhi as a centre for everything—academics, culture, the arts, trade and commerce et al.... Today, Delhi is engaged in an obsessive and 'un-self-critical' quest for power and I don't mean just political power. What I find most disturbing about Delhi is that the so-called liberal and secular class there is deeply hierarchical and non-egalitarian. The liberal, thinking elite of Delhi is embedded in a self-perpetuating culture that does not encourage either debate or introspection."

Jogen Choudhury
Artist

"I lived in Delhi for 15 years and I can say it has two distinct classes of people—a cultured and refined minority and the vast, vocal majority which is brash, crass and vulgar. The latter class is made up almost entirely of migrants from Haryana, Punjab and western UP, parts of India that are not really known for their high cultural, social or academic standards. An auto driver or bus conductor will refer to a passenger as 'tu' instead of 'aap'. It'll take Delhi another 50 years to become a Mumbai or Calcutta. Even the city's young people are imbibing this unfortunate culture: they're brash, money-minded, materialistic and vulgar. (But) Delhi's emergence as a centre for business, arts, academia and culture will act as a magnet for the elite from other parts of the country to gravitate towards the city, thus transforming it into a liveable one."


Madras

Theodore Baskaran
Historian, nature writer

"It is not the climate or the infrastructure that keeps me off Delhi. It is the human factor. In office buildings, before people can come out of the lift, you see a group pushing to get in. This is symbolic of the Delhi ethos.... Their abysmal ignorance of the South confounds the situation. I did a one-year course in Delhi when the war in Sri Lanka was on; my coursemates thought that all the Tamils in Sri Lanka were immigrants from Tamil Nadu."

A.R. Venkatachalapathy
Historian, associate professor, Madras Institute of Development Studies

"Delhi disproves the popular Tamil saying, 'The way to Madurai is in your mouth'. My roadside enquiries on Delhi's streets always resulted in the scratching of the balls and being shown the wrong way. Civility was sadly missing. Rudeness was the armour, aggression the primary form of engagement. So, I stayed cocooned in jnu which, compared to the big bad city outside, was 'the heart of a heartless world, the sigh of the oppressed', until it became the opium of intellectuals. The exile ended with the turning in of my doctoral thesis. I fled to Tirunelveli. But there was poetic justice. My wife turned out to be from Delhi. The only point of discord in an otherwise blissful marriage!"


Hyderabad

Ananda Shankar Jayant
Well-known Kuchipudi and Bharatanatyam dancer

"The cultural czars and czarinas living in Delhi do not look beyond their city. Anything that happens in Delhi in terms of art is presumed to be of national import. South Indian artistes are doing brilliantly, but recognition comes only if one performs in Delhi, and in Delhi, it's not talent that counts but the right connections. Delhi audiences always have this attitude of been there, seen that and done that. Audiences in Hyderabad, or anywhere in the south for that matter, are much more receptive. And Delhi is the most unsafe place for a woman. I would never take an auto, taxi or bus after 7.30 pm. In Hyderabad, I can travel safely on my own at 11 pm."

Iqbal Patni
Urdu and Hindustani Poet

"The culture of a society is governed by its geography and history. Delhi was constantly invaded from the northwest and the years of strife and war appear to have had an impact on the people of Delhi. Often, South Indians are ready to adjust, but North Indians do not budge an inch. Maybe history also has something to do with the fact that the people of Delhi are so loud, superficial and flashy."


Inputs from Smruti Koppikar, S. Anand, Sugata Srinivasaraju, Madhavi Tata, Jaideep Mazumdar

delhi
Political mecca, consumerist haven, now Metro chic... Delhi's all that. But it's also crass, crude and callous, a city sans a soul.
Anjali Puri
 
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HAVE YOUR SAY
Mar 19, 2008 12:00 AM
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Apart from the fact that all capital cities are meant to suck and Delhi can not be any different, MS SHIVANI DOGRA. Delhi has the arrogance of success and the pomp of power. Also on one pretext oor another far more money is pumped in to Delhi for infrastructural improvement.

Finally, I have been through all comments, which come from or are from people not living in North India, and note a touch of sour grapes.



Joseph
Karachi, Pakistan
Mar 19, 2008 12:00 AM
22
I completely agree- Delhi sucks big time . I moved in here from Mumbai three years ago and still can't get used to the fact that if you don't raise you voice ten times higher than normal you're considered invisible or 'varry(sic) quiet'. Irrespective of class, for everyone here, except for a miniscule 2% of the population 'civil' is just an empty word.
shivani dogra
New Delhi, India
May 09, 2006 12:00 AM
21
It was not surprising to read your article about Delhi The Rude City. Delhi is but an illustration of how things are in other parts of India including Ludhiana where I used to live. I have just returned from living in UK for 3 years and can judge with a better perspective as to what it takes to be a developed nation. Its clear that despite all the hypein the media about peaking Sensex,what hold back India from progrssing is the attitude of the people. With all the things like shopping malls and big cars what we Indians require is something that mone cannot buy,that is, common sense and courtsey for our fellow citizens, to show that we are developing in everyway.
avneet
ludhiana, India
May 05, 2006 12:00 AM
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I am also myself a Delhiite.Although I myself hate the unnecessary aggressiveness of the city(dont tell its because of punjabis or jats,even south indians or marathis living here are more aggressive than their colleagues anywhere else. Whatever may be the reason although the report has given a true picture of Delhi,it has gone overboard in making some statements
The author seems to venting her hatred against Delhi and its people.
Do you know how traffic cops catch you in Mumbai for any error which a vehicle with a MH number would get unnoticed.How the people were blaming Delhi for Mumbai's woes during the floods(They dont understand that although corporates may file their tax returns from Mumbai,they earn their revenues from other states as well.How people down south(esp. in Tamil Nadu) behave with Hindi speaking people.Talking about autos,even a Chennai lover would agree that the auto wallas there are the worst of the lot.Talking about Bengalis,my personal opinion is that they are very parochial people.(I may be wrong but its just an impression I have from my own experience.)

People have their weeknesses,even cities do.
Mumbai is so obscenely expensive and blah blah !!
Talking about jats,they are probably the bravest among all the communities in India.
Its jats and these supposedly uncivilized people the writers talk of on the border(very high %age in military) that our western borders are safe.
Every thing has its pluses and minuses and different combinations are suitable to some and not suitable to some.
But venting out personal grudge on a public medium is not good for a modern society.






Rahul Iyer
Delhi, India
Apr 30, 2006 12:00 AM
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Glad to know that you TRIED in creating the necessary & unrequired divide of Mumbai Vs Delhi.....North India Vs South...grow up !!U havent smelt the Coffee or should I say Tea?Lassi??...Please put ink on things which matters..Think Global,Be Indian.Petty regional debates & divides cover stories might have boost your sales & got lot of hate mails,beyond that you cannot do anything.Outlook Sucks & Not Delhi !!
Vinay Rao
Delhi, India
Apr 28, 2006 12:00 AM
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This is for those who say that the reason Delhi sucks as it is primarily populated by people from Punjab, an area which is not tradititionally known for its culture that as per www.wikipedia.com that one of the earliest stone age cultures of South Asia nourished in the Punjab. The Harappa civilization was located in the Punjab.The Vedic and Epic period of the Punjab was socially and culturally very prolific as during this glorious period, the people accelerated in the fields of philosophy and culture. Here the people composed the Rig Veda and the Upanishads. The tradition maintains that sage Valmiki had composed the Ramayana near the present Amritsar city and princess Kaikyee also belonged to this region. Lord Krishna gave the divine message of the Gita at Kurukshetra which also formed a part of ancient Punjab. It was here in Punjab that people wrote eighteen principal Puranas. The authors of Vishnu Purana and the Shiva Purana belonged to Central Punjab. It clearly goes to show that Punjabis may be gulity of several shortcomings but unlike some ignorance and unfounded pride is not among them.

purva
New Delhi, India
Apr 28, 2006 12:00 AM
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Seriously Anjali Puri, read all these posts- and take a cue at researching journalistic stories better! Gawd you are not woth wasting a post on!
kala ghoda
kabul, Afghanistan
Apr 28, 2006 12:00 AM
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Gawd, What is Anjali Puri's problem? Not only is it mediocre writing, but its unnecessarily negative. No point being such an elitist, poseur- before one bemoans the passing off english style institutions- one should master the english language herself (w.r.t. Doon Article).
As far as the Delhi article is concerned- the writer has obviously gone through many tough times in the gorgeous city of Delhi-maybe owing to her own attitude. It could be worth the while to change her setting and maybe shift to, uhhh the backwaters of bihar and file journalistic articles from there! Her negativity, brusque-ness and biases make her the perfect bullshitter who could easily edit Saamna! I
cannot quite believe our lovely outlook carrying such nonsense leader articles from a bumpkin! Seriously bugger her off from the Outlook premises!
kala ghoda
kabul, Afghanistan
Apr 27, 2006 12:00 AM
15
One important note….I am reading outlook since it started ,I have hardly missed its any issue ...I have read so many outlook that u may call me an outlookian...u have written many article like one on Mumbai...but this one is first of its kind which is single minded ...directed towards...not region but people of delhi..as if the author had some deep rooted disgust for delhi people...
Varun Bansal
Delhi, India
Apr 27, 2006 12:00 AM
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I am not a Muslim and I have no problem if u call me one. I am not here to create a divide between North Indian and South Indian. What I am expressing is a deep rooted sort of hatred in mind of people of South for North Indian which I hate. We all North Indian love all the cultures of India and personally also I have no hatred but all love .This because we feel country as one rather than separated regions. We guys never show regionalism when we go anywhere but you will find ample example of it from people of Bengal, Maharashtra, Tamil Nadu….. We have been receptive to many culture and yah we have changed a lot after influence from Mughals and we may continue to change …Why are North Indian always looked upon as thugs when we go for renting a house in Banglore..or Mumbai..u will never find such disrimnation in Delhi.The critical part here is that all people in India have started feeling associated of there region rather than of the country everyone wants there development ,there reservation ,there water. This is a serious problem for survival of this country as one.
Varun Bansal
Delhi, India
Apr 27, 2006 12:00 AM
13
This guy Bansal is a Muslim trying to stir up trouble between North and South Indians.


South Indians are more complex culturally because Muslim marauders concentrated on the North and did not succeed in utterly annihilating the South's complex Hindu culture as happened in the North.

Northern temple worship as I have known it is primitive compared to the South's; the Northern templers themselves are crude compared to the great Southern ones. Obviously, the Muslims destroyed almost everything in the North.
Ramdas Bajjanbhai
Jinja, Uganda
Apr 27, 2006 12:00 AM
12
This Cover Story is typical example of South Indians feeling jealous of North Indians. Delhi represents North India and no one can deny its rich heritage .Most Bollywood movie are Delhi centric. Delhi mostly comprises of Buniyas, Punjabis, and Gujjar from U.P and Jats from Haryana. The Major chunk of it is from Upper Middle Class that why you see all the student protest rising from here against Qouta.It has always been looked as getting favored by south Indians as all the Major infrastructure investment taking place here What they forget is that it is the national capital. Also living standard of delhites is flashy example can be more vehicles than sum total of the other 3 metros .Delhi also has immigrants from Bangladesh and many other place who cause all crimes. Don’t tell me rapes don’t happen in Mumbai and Bangalore.
I remember when I use to stay in Mumbai all my colleagues in the office felt jealous of me. No one talk about ill-treatment of North Indians in Mumbai. Delhi has never closed it gates for anyone if we also start protesting against immigrants as done my Mumbaias we may also have reduction in crimes. The most polite people in India are from Haryana’s they speak what they have in Heart that’s why they may seem raw in nature. You ask help from them you will never be refused an example is the most army man are from Haryana. This is the Region which has most been affected by Partition and that’s why we have always been more nationalist which I think our South Indian lack.


Regards,
Varun Bansal
Delhi, India
Apr 26, 2006 12:00 AM
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Mrs. De and Mr. Gerson da Cunha...i would just like to tell you that 90 % of the people of Delhi are victims of the 'free-pass culture', the power play, politics and hierarchy..not the perpetrators. We are the ones who cannot get into the cricket stadium after spending the money and are lathi-charged despite having valid tickets cause Ms. Sonia Gandhi and family and Mr. Arun Jaitleys friends need to get in first and for free!!! and these politicians who wield their power and break rules so blatantly are elected not just by Delhiites, but by the whole country...
nitasha jain
NEW DELHI, India
Apr 26, 2006 12:00 AM
10
Mr. Girish Kasaravalli...so what creates a visual memory for you in your native Bangalore.. the pathetic roads, the traffic jams, the tree-lined avenues...no? It must be the topography of the Windsor Manor hotel you're talking about then...
nitasha jain
NEW DELHI, India
Apr 26, 2006 12:00 AM
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BY THE WAY MR. SIVAKUMAR IYER...AWESOME POST...U SHOULD HAVE BEEN A POET...
nitasha jain
NEW DELHI, India
Apr 26, 2006 12:00 AM
8
In response to the article 'Why Delhi Sucks'...
Firstly, i was laughing at Shobha de's sweeping generalization of the people and culture of Delhi on the basis of the airport incident..agreed, Mr. Ratan Tata is humble enough to carry his own luggage at the airport, but why does she dismiss all delhiites as uncultured just because a couple 'dared' to get helpers to lift their luggage...i assume Mrs. De, social worker that she is, does not hire domestic help to cook and clean in her house, or maybe she dusts the decks herself when she steps on to party on Vijay Mallya's luxury yatch...
Secondly, i think a lot of your guest panel have an inferiority complex or are unbelievably arrogant and pretentious when they blame the so-called brash culture of Delhi on its majority 'north Indian/ Punjabi' population...just shows the 'STATE BIAS' so deep rooted in them, where then bengals and the chennais are considered intellectual and cultured whereas the punjabis, biharis, up'ites are loud and aggressive...well if they cannot package and sell their culture, i.e., their dances and literature well to the masses and potray it as reserved for elite and tasteful viewing, they cannot expect anyone to take notice, can they? Message to ur southie panelists cribbing about no appreciation for bharatnatyam and what have u in the city...its the era of savvy marketing folks...learn from the punju's....
As for the people of Maharashtra(out of which Mumbai is the only heard party), understand that Delhi has a huge migrant and floating population of people from the North-east, Bihar, UP, haryana and himachal who come here looking for a better life...AND DELHI HAS MUCH MORE TO OFFER them than just a film industry...we have tried to accomodate everyone in our hearts and our hostels...atleast we do not knowingly let parties like the Shiv Sena lord us over and tell us what to do. We delhiites do not beat-up students from other states in hostels of DU saying that they have no right to infringe on our college seats...we do not have quotas for 'maharashtrian' students in our colleges...and all this is cause we think of ourselves as INDIANS first, belonging to a fantastic, historic, strategic city,not only as Delhiites.
Yes we have problems...security for women, law and order problems that are a direct result of a migrant population, electricity, water, infrastructure etc etc etc...but we also have a bunch of people who are now making a conscious effort to keep their metro clean, we have 100% cng dependent public transport, we are the people who welcomed the sikh community with open arms and helped them ease into the mainstrean after the riots, we are the city where people from all walks of life gathered to fight for justice for jessica and will gather again to protest the quotas in the education sector...one area where youth from other states have maintained a stoic silence (as if it doesnt concern them...maybe cause they already have their state reservations in place?)..because we are concerned about what happens in this country...thats one area where this city is amazing...we take part in all walks of Indian life, including politics and policy, cause thats one area where are more cultured brethren from other states have no opinion!!!!!
nitasha jain
NEW DELHI, India
Apr 26, 2006 12:00 AM
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Rohit

I agree. The Bongos are big gas bags

The most important in my view is that people should have the basics in life, and Delhi provides this much better then Kolkutta.

Kolkutta is an area of distressing poverty, and the Bongos should be ashamed of themselves for
their poor state. As a north Indian I dont care too hoots for the Bongo writers like Amartya Sen and Arundhati Roy. All hot air and emotions and
without a jot of reality or rationality.
lalit bagai
kalundborg, Brazil
Apr 25, 2006 12:00 AM
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Aprajita

Thanks for writeing something positive about Delhi. Delhi has a woman CM, who is known to be a nice, and sensible person. Perhaps she should listen to the woes of the girls in Delhi, and create a special womans task force.

And then college students , and all young men should get a talking to. They should stop haraassing young women, and on the contrary step in to help them.

But then the whole of Indians needs good samaritans.eanwhile guys liveing in Kolkutta and Mumbai should butt out. Both cities are disasters.The poor live and die on the sidewalks,and Kolkutta is a dreadful city by all accounts.
lalit bagai
kalundborg, Brazil
Apr 25, 2006 12:00 AM
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I am surprised at Mr. Jogen Choudhury's sweeping generalizations about people from Haryana, Delhi, and Western UP, in his assessment about problems with Delhi. Mr Choudhury declaims that these regions of India "are not really known for their high cultural, social or academic standards."
Mr Choudhury might want to reflect on the fact that it is precisely this kind of Bengali parochialism -- exemplified in the community's tendency to ghettoize in Chittaranjan Park and its superiority complex vis-a-vis other Indian communities -- that has crippled the emergence of a genuine cosmpolitanism in Delhi. Equally naive is his equation of Mumbai and Calcutta as culturally vibrant alternatives to Delhi. Having lived in all three cities, I would aver that Calcutta is the least cosmpolitan and least welcoming of outsiders, and for all its professed Marxism and socialism, communal and casteist to boot. Mr Choudhury would do well to turn his critical sensibility on the public culture of Calcutta, marked as it is by a moribund Bengali Brahmanist sensibility, before passing judgment on other communities and cities.

Rohit Chopra, Ph.D.
Emory University,
Atlanta, USA
Rohit Chopra
Atlanta, United States
Apr 24, 2006 12:00 AM
4
Delhi is a mean and tough city where one's will and determination is tested completely. To survive, one has to think quickly to meander in and out of situations in everyday life. If you are expecting sympathy, forget it. But if you prove your mettle and send the message that you are made of steel, then the city accepts you and you become a Delhi-ite, the word hated by Mumbaikars, Kolkatta comrades and Chennai brethren.
In Delhi, everybody is equal, whether an auto driver or its passenger. This comes from the fatigue which Delhi-ites have in seeing so many self-important people trudging in one after the other claiming royalty (political, industrial, etc) in some vague district. And this ennui has transformed itself into `dont give a shit' attitude to any important personality from anywhere. In that sense, equality cannot be found anywhere else.
Delhi also does not eulogise their so-called spirit (the Mumbai spirit is so well known after last year's deluge), their great intellectual masturbation capability (Kolkatta), any reverse snobbery (of the Chennai Tamils), or any new found cultural patriotism (of the Bangalore Kannadiga). Delhi just stays there, with its extreme—hot summers and cold winters; hospitality to arrogance.
O! my beloved Delhi, with all your four seasons, your tree-lined avenues, your eight-lane Ring Road, your bars with its evening happy hours, with your dark winter suits and white summer kurtas, no other comes close to you. You are the best and you attract the best.
From an eternal Delhi-ite, currently getting suffocated by the Mumbai spirit.
Sivakumar Iyer
Mumbai, India
Apr 24, 2006 12:00 AM
3
I know Delhi for the last 15 years. Delhi and its residents are inhuman, to say the least. I dont know whether other cities of the country suck or not. But Delhi definitely does...
Bibhu
Guwahati, India
Apr 23, 2006 12:00 AM
2
Aprajita,
Great Post. You stole my words and then some more.
I enjoy outlook (I can't say that I like it but I enjoy it), I command them for publishing all rants/raves without any time delay or editing (I do not see that in any other news media site in India).

Coming back to the article, I am shocked to see so many judgemental people so negatively judging Delhi without realizing the good in the city. What about so many judgemental people, should we assume that the cities these folks belongs to suffers from some sort of negativity syndrome.

I think only one critic stayed in Delhi forlong time - Jogen Choudhury and his views come close to the facts (and his words are not judgemental).

Yes, Delhi needs to grow up and we Dilli Wallas could be more respectful to women, women friendly, polite, less aggressive but there are positives in Delhi.

I miss the spring time in Delhi - the best place to be.
Ajay
Troy, usa
Apr 23, 2006 12:00 AM
1
I'm a young girl who ventures out on the streets of Delhi everyday and experiences men in their worst forms.There are many other women like me who try not to get themselves raped in this city everyday...but I can't possibly imagine them supporting your story. If you claim to do a cover story on a city, why do you conveniently forget to include the positive aspects? Why was no opinion taken from people living in this 'screwed up city' and only from the greater ones residing in the moral bastions of this country.
I've been with auto-drivers who drive me towards a safer route when they notice a car following me on the road. There has been a family of strangers who escorted me home because they wanted to be sure I would be safe.Young men on the road have beaten up an eve-teaser for me. There are innumerable memories and hands of help associated with this city, which rival the bad points quite strongly.
The problems in Delhi are because of the immigrants who have wrecked the cultural ethos of the city. But I find no reason to believe that a city like Mumbai that attracts millions of people everyday to it's gates,and later provides then with nothing and makes them sleep on the streets is proudly unholded as having a soul. And if the situation there is bereft of political power, it quite adequately makes up with it's economic and financial advantage. And is it that women do not get raped there? The concept of dance bars itself if a product of the institutional maladjustments in that region.
Why are North Indians constantly blamed for their ignorance of others, when the other parts of India are themselves so judgemental of the mentality of the 'north'?
It would have been better for your magazine to exercise some effort in delving into the ways this city teaches you...and how you love to survive against it each day. But your publication has stayed true to it's track record and presented a story that solely reflects what your journalists originally set out to prove.
If you don't publish a story soon enough detailing life in Mumbai, Bangalore, etcera...then this article would support my reasons to why Outlook sucks.
And just to make you more aware, I have been to a movie hall in 'Bangalore' when people laughed at the gay scenes in BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN.....if only your reporter had been there...
Aprajita
New Delhi, India
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