Opinion
Bowing Before Emperor Bush
Now that the plenipotentiary Caesar of the world, leading the most viciously amoral administration in living memory, has deigned to honour us with a personal visit, instead of these panting paroxysms of excitement, isn't it time to let him be known what we really think of him?

The Foreign Service bureaucracy is buzzing with excitement these days with the prospect of a US Presidential visit. The almighty George Bush himself, plenipotentiary Caesar of the world has deigned to honour us with a personal visit. The US has been wooing us by inviting us (along with Brazil) to sit at the high table at the G-8 summit. We are being lauded as an "emerging superpower" and being tantalized with a seat at the Security Council. The US government is prepared to concede to us the status of an overt nuclear power and is willing to lift sanctions against supply of nuclear material. Of course, in return for our agreeing to put our nuclear facilities under International AERB supervision. We are at the threshold of a new era of a close relationship with the US, some of our foreign policy analysts think. Who knows, they say, we might even be admitted to NATO. Such is the enthusiasm for entering the US fold that we are willing to give up our prospective partnership with Iran and China for forming an Asian energy grid. The replacement of Mani Shankar Aiyar by Murli Deora in the Ministry of Petroleum is also a pointer in the same direction. Much of the English language media too is clearly enthused by this prospect of India becoming at least the Asian right hand of the US.

All this is happening at a time when the US is led by the most viciously amoral administration in living memory. The Bush Administration controlled by a neo-conservative cabal of Vice President Dick Cheney, Defence Secretary Rumsfeld, Security Advisor Condoleeza Rice and the current World Bank President, Paul Wolfowitz, has not only attacked and destroyed Iraq and Afghanistan, on false pretexts and in gross violation of International law, it has violated or withdrawn from a large number of International treaties including the Anti Ballistic Missile treaty, the treaty to prevent the militarisation of space, the UN Convention against torture, among others. These have seriously compromised international law and order, and have undermined the security of the entire world including the US. As Chomsky succinctly puts it, the US policies in this regard have promoted US hegemony in the world at the expense of Global security and indeed the US's own security 

Preparations are currently under way in the US and Israel to attack Iran, this time with tactical nuclear weapons as well. Even the profuse use of depleted Uranium shells in Iraq has released the radioactive yield of hundreds of nuclear weapons, which will result in the slow genocide of millions of people over the years. Michael Chossodovsky, a highly respected Canadian International policy analyst says that he has seen US administration documents which point to this nuclear attack on Iran being launched as early as March this year. Though Iran is in full compliance with the Nuclear Non Proliferation treaty and is only asserting its right to develop nuclear power, the pretext for the attack is that Iran "harbours intentions of developing nuclear weapons". And it is surely a coincidence that Iran has announced its intensions to stop trading its oil in US dollars and shift to the Euro from March this year. This is exactly what Saddam was about to do when the US attacked and took over Iraq.

Few people know that the US economy today survives precariously on the twin steroids of an oil trade in US dollars and the deposit of the Saudi money from oil sales to the US in US banks and bonds, as well as the Chinese trade surplus in US Bonds. From the manner in which the Iraqi economy has been privatized after US occupation, the manner in which their oil production has been taken over, and the manner in which Cheney's company, Halliburton, has been allowed to make tens of billions from no bid contracts on Iraq's "reconstruction", it is clear that no amount of destruction or human misery will stop Bush, Cheney and Co. from lining their pockets (or those of their friends) and increasing US hegemony in the world.

Apart from this, the Bush Administration has also vigorously worked to undermine the international as well as the domestic environment protection regime. To this end, it has refused to sign the Kyoto protocol for reducing greenhouse gas emissions, which are necessary for slowing down climate change. It has packed domestic environmental regulatory authorities with lobbyists of oil and other industries which need to be environmentally regulated. They have thus dismantled many of the environmental rules and regulations and have now opened up hitherto protected forest and wilderness areas for exploitation by the oil and timber industries. With the dire forecasts that are now being made by various climatologists around the world regarding the rate at which global warming is proceeding and its devastating projected impacts, just these acts of the Bush administration should be adequate for treating them as a rogue regime. James Lovelock, a celebrated British scientist who had developed the idea of Gaia (the earth as a living being) has recently reviewed the scientific evidence on this in a recent book, "The revenge of Gaia", which projects that the average rise of global temperatures by the turn of the century will be 5-8 degrees Centigrade, which means that most of the earth will become uninhabitable. The resulting upheavals will not only kill most living species including most humans, it will spell the end of Civilisation. Yet the Oilmen who run the Bush administration are not only not willing to do anything to control oil consumption, and hence greenhouse gas emissions, they are prepared to kill millions and destroy whole countries to get control of the major oilfields around the world.

Apart from this, the Bush Adminstration has committed every imaginable kind of crime against humanity, from systematic and brutal torture of thousands of Iraqi, Afghan and Arab prisoners, to detaining thousands of Arabs and Muslims for years without trial in the US, to undermining the carefully built up framework of Civil liberties in the US. It has systematically eroded the social security and public health system in the US in the drive towards their privatization. All this has caused enormous destitution and misery among millions of poor Americans as well. Thus, even the domestic economic policies of the Bush Administration have been designed to increase the economic hegemony of the super rich, whom Bush and Cheney represent, at the expense of the poor. As the Venezuelan president Chavez put it, in the World Social Forum meeting at Caracas recently, there has never in human history been a more brutal and rapacious regime than the present regime in the US.

And yet our External affairs Ministry headed by the Prime Minister is panting with excitement at the prospect of bringing us within the embrace of the US. All this, despite the fact that all opinion polls show the US as about the most despised nation in this country (in spite of what most of the English press would like to have us believe). And despite the fact that the Left Front on whose critical support this government is surviving, has unequivocally declared its hostility to this alliance with the US. Even if we neglect the immorality of it all, the fact is that our government is willing to sell out the non aligned movement which Nehru had so carefully crafted; it is willing to jeopardize our relationship with China, Pakistan, Iran and indeed the entire Muslim world; indeed it is willing to risk the survival of the government itself, in order to grasp the embrace of the US.

What are the real reasons for this remarkable behaviour? We are told by the mandarins of the external affairs ministry that morality is a concept that is alien to realpolitik and hard nosed foreign policy; that foreign policy is and must be governed by cold blooded National Interest. They say that our national interest would be better served that by aligning ourselves with the only superpower in the world, particularly when that superpower is willing recognise us as an overt nuclear power and willing to allow us to sit on their high table. After all, they tell us, the US can give us a lot more than all our neighbours, the Muslim world and China put together. As an ally of the US, we buy our security as well as our economic well being, goes the spin.

But is the US a reliable ally? What is its track record in this regard? Will it really help us if at any time it finds that its interests are better served by aligning itself with China or again with Pakistan? After all, it was aligned with Pakistan till yesterday, and even with Saddam during its war with Iran. How many murderous dictators has it supported while it sheds crocodile tears for democracy? In fact, India will be the first to be jettisoned the moment it ceases to be useful to the US. It is already becoming evident that even the nuclear deal with the US is only serving to sacrifice our nuclear autonomy and make us dependant on the US for nuclear supplies.

And how long will the US survive as an economic superpower? It has been living on borrowed money for quite some time. It's external debt is already more than 50% of its GDP as Saudi oil money and China's trade surplus piles up in the US banks. The US dollar is kept afloat today mainly by the oil trade in US dollars. The US economy will tank if either China withdraws its money from the US Banks, or Saudi Arabia stops depositing its oil money in US bonds, or even if the oil trade goes off the dollar. Thus, even if even we assume that we get something in the short run from the US, how long will it last? And we are willing to do it at the expense of so many neighbors, long term friends and principles. A Canadian scholar, James Eayrs, in his 1969 lectures "Right and wrong in foreign policy" had very perceptively commented on the "slick professional diplomat who prefers cleverness to good sense, and intellectuals of the strategic community who speak glibly of realpolitik. It is as though foreign offices have built into their basements some sort of low temperature chamber, where fledging foreign service officers deposit their consciences on recruitment, for redemption only on retirement."

But it is not only or mainly a question of forsaking their moral conscience. It is more importantly a matter of sacrificing long term interests for short term gains, of confusing hegemony with self interest and thinking that international politics is a zero sum game. For it is this kind of stupidly facile thinking which believes that your adversary's loss must be your gain, which allows such slick professional diplomats to strut around dreaming of clever tactics of harming your adversary. That then passes for "professional diplomacy", which pushes us to this kind of absurd posture, where we are elated to cosy up with the most murderous and dangerous regime in living memory. A regime, which as Chomsky says, has, while causing enormous loss of life and suffering, undermined global security and its own security, while seeking to increase its hegemony in the world.

I however believe that in our country, even baser reasons underlie this tilt towards the US. Put quite crudely and simply, those people who control foreign policy in this country have been unable to get over their colonial hangover and the awe of their erstwhile white masters. That is why, and not just out of politeness, Manmohan Singh in his Oxford speech praised the British Empire for having given us a great Civil Service, Police and Judiciary - the very institutions which were created to serve the Empire and keep the natives in submission. During Manmohan Singh's formative years, it was a matter of great pride to be called to the Indian Civil Service for serving the Empire. Today, it is the US Empire which has replaced the British Empire as the overlords of the planet. It is the same kind of pride that we see in the minds of the Foreign Service bureaucracy today when they find themselves called to the high table by the current sole superpower. There is yet another significant factor in this dynamics now. There are a large number of International agencies controlled by the US, like the World Bank, IMF, ADB etc. and also a large number of US trusts and foundations which are giving out a large number of jobs, consultancies and assignments on enormous salaries and fees, to a large number of our sitting and retired bureaucrats. Unfortunately these are permitted by our government, but they have had an enormously corrupting influence on the entire ruling establishment in this and in many other third world countries. The lure of such jobs has created a huge vested interest among the establishment for closer ties with the US. This tilt towards the US is also prodded along by our English language media and even our academia, who also receive liberal doses of advertisements, assignments, travel grants and sometimes jobs from US corporations, trusts, foundations and Universities. All this together has created an environment where our government can dare to get in bed with the US and glibly tell us that it is all realpolitik and National Interest.

Those in charge of this government think that they can easily get away with this. They have come to believe that the left front can only bark and will not bite; that there is no political force that has the capacity to translate the popular feelings against the US into something that can actually damage the Congress Party politically. But the long term consequences of this decision to enter the US orbit will be enormous. There cannot be a bigger political or moral issue for this country. Perhaps the time has come for the Left Front to call the government's bluff. Bush's visit will be an occasion for the people of this country to express what they really think of him. He must be made to feel the heat of the reception accorded to him by the people of this country.


Prashant Bhushan is a public interest lawyer in the Supreme Court.

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Mar 02, 2006 12:00 AM
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Part 1:

Mr. Abhiskek,

>> I dont see America as the BIG SATAN or even this war on terrorism as something bad.

I hope u r not blind... I'm confused, b'cos you cud see Indian brutalities, Pakisthani brutalities, Srilankan brutalities, Nepali brutalities, Chinese brutalities, Taliban brutalities, Iraqi brutalities, Saudi brutalities and so on, BUT and this is a BIG BUT, u cud not see American brutalities... may be the optical receptors in ur brain are "white" washed...

>> You know that afghanistan went away which was a major source of terrorism which was killing innocent people.

Who was the creator, mentor and destroyer of Taliban?? I heard some one saying Bulla, the Allah in Bush... It's high time that we start worshiping him for his creations and destructions, an attribute related to the concept God...

>> And futher we were being pounded by Pakistanis and there terrorists from afghanistan.

This is India's inability to act against the Pakisthani and Taliban's terrorism directed against India... India was caught in a catch22 to decide whether to fight or give piece a chance... India wanted to showoff to the world that she is a piece loving country and doesn't make wars... but, islamic terrorism took a greater lead than our piece proposals... India wanted to somehow stop this menace... It asked the world to act, no one listened... It raised its concerns to the US, but it said "I dont see Afganisthan as the BIG SATAN or even this Taliban regime as something bad"... India was helpless, to decide how to fight it alone... meanwhile, Sam got his ass screwed... then he said "I 'DO' see Afgan as the BIG SATAN 'AND' even this islamic terrorism as something 'REALLY' bad"... rest is history...

>> So you can always disagree and think of America as the great Satan but again you skirted the question regarding islamic terrorism or chinese agression towards Taiwan or even Russian brutality in there heydays.

I wish I cud've born some 50 yrs earlier... British, China, USSR, Combodia, Japan, Korea etc wud have replaced US in my discourses... Regarding Islamic terrorism, here are my views... No organization can grow bigger and bigger with a sustained monetory and logistical support without having a state(rulers) involved in it... I certainly believe that every fundamental organization with hegemonic ideologies can't sustain for longer times unless until they are supported by the state... like, LTTE was backed by India for some time to turn the cat into big cat, and one fine day it gulped its creator... similarly, u name any islamic fundamental organization, it is definitely being supported by some state... Taliban was created and supported by US and Pak to deter USSR... Pakisthani military establishment is involved in every islamic fundamental groups... when I raise this issue with Sam, he says "I dont see Pakistan as the BIG SATAN or even this armed freedom struggle in Kashmir as something bad."

Islamic fundamentalism is a threat to the world... their ideology of turning this world into an Islamic state is dangerous and confrontational... Chinese aggerssion towards Taiwan and suppression of Tibetian culture is also as abjectionable... Russian brutalities in their heydays are also shameless acts and are definitely intolerable...

Does this satisfy you Abhishek?? I don't want to compare US with other rouges, measure their GPA in the art of brutalities, and announce the results that US fares better amoung the rest... If you r using this logic to endorse Dubya, then I can't help you... may Bulla forgive you... Islamic terrorism kills u by sliting ur throat, full of blood... while American imperialism kills you by by dumping all the fat in ur throat, no blood at all and u wonder how u r being killed...
raj
Dresden, Germany
Mar 02, 2006 12:00 AM
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Part 2:

>> With America that is happening where they dont see that working in there self interest they have actually become criminals.

lol, r u trying to say that American administration 'DON'T SEE' that they are criminals!! ooh, u made me laugh... my friend, they know that they are criminals, but they endorse that their criminalism is legitimate, and are happy with hearty support from someone like you...

>> BUT that is not true of india's foreign policy.

The concern here is not abt India's foreign policy to have bilateral trade relations with US... but the concern here is that India shud not be an YesMan to US... India shud not let US to hamper our scientific progress in nuclear research... It is definitely not in the US' self interests to see an India that is self sustained in energy matters, so it uses every trick in the trade to strip off our nuclear capabilities... India shud not keep silent in the UN, when the need arise, to raise the concerns of US' hegemonic foreign policies...

>> The day india's foreign policy exhibits criminal kind of attributes then i will be with you shouting slogans against the GREAT INDIAN SATAN. But when it comes to America. I cannot reform them and my focus is only with India and its foreign policy and i dont see anything wrong in working with a great country like America

India already exhibited criminal kind of attributes in its foreign policy during the creation of Bangladesh... well, one can give u a picture of west pakisthani brutalities on east pak and the need to seperate them into two countries... India tried this success formula again with Srilanka, but didn't work out... LTTE showed to the world that it is more powerful than Pak... For the moment you don't have to worry abt the GREAT INDIAN SATAN... America is great in many ways, I agree and can see that thru ur lenses... but, America is also worse in pursuing foreign relations in rigid nationalistic policy approach, and this u cudn't see thru my lenses...

>> By trying to draw the point that all criminals did there work out of self interest. Ya i see your point. But then i dont see US as the big SATAN. So my morality is not hurt when i see equal partnership with US.

"equal partnership with US" !!! did u miss an "un" in this phrase by mistake?? My morality definitely hurts when some one endorses US' callous intentions as legitimate... I wonder how ignorant u r to assume that US looks at us as an equal partner...

>> Anyways it is a big debate and you have to see my point also even though as i see your point.

do you think I'm writing all this without seeing ur point??
raj
Dresden, Germany
Mar 02, 2006 12:00 AM
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Part 3:

>> Further please comment on my point regarding indian fallacies in there own country. So for me the bigger SATAN is Indian State and that is what i have to reform or fight. America is a partner for me which helps me in serving indian people and bringing better life for them. Looking at it from indian camp i think it is great to work with America.

Well, it depends on what granularity level we are discussing... This debate is about "Bowing Before Emperor Bush" and not about "The Great Indian Fallacies - A Survey"... It's heartening to know that u realised that u have to reform or fight for Indian fallacies, very good, so plan out how u cud do this within ur limits and resources...

>> Further I think you have a notion that a personality like Nathuram Godse can be equated with the state of America which is a little wayward. America is not all that bad. This fight against terrorism has several angles and i support this fight to bring security for my future generation against the bigger SATAN called the facism of Islamic terrorism.

The angle that u r looking at is 180°... one can draw comparisions like, the bigger SATAN called the facism of Islamic terrorism as Mumbai under world and the US as Bal Thakrey... every thing is hunky dory as long as their intentions and acts are only to curb the menace, but once you realise that they are also taking advantage with their new found power, then it is time to look around 360°...

>> I guess you donot want to see Islamic terrorism as an evil just as i dont want to see the evils of american foreign policy.
uhem, ur guess is wrong... I want to see both and I see both... What I can see is, the growth of islamic terrorism had increased multi fold because of American foreign policies, and what I can't see is the worsening of American foreign policy is drived by islamic terrorism... now, do u see how I see?

>> You are just on the other side of the aisle. Where you will be an apologist of islamic terrorism and i am an apologist of american excesses. If I have to choose a side I will anyday choose the open society of america than the closed and brutal system called islamic extremism.

Inspite of all this debate if u r still branding me as an apoligist of islamic terrorism and u still remain an apologist of american excesses, I'm not sure whether my lecturing capabilities are not adequate or ur learning skills are pathetic... It is not abt choosing this side or that side, as if it is an obligation... It is abt co-operating and condemning the good and bad things with all the sides...
raj
Dresden, Germany
Mar 02, 2006 12:00 AM
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Unfortunately Raj. I had given a response to your response but somehow it did not get posted.

When I get time again I will give response again.

Abhishek
Abhishek Drolia
Raipur, India
Mar 02, 2006 12:00 AM
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Abhishek Drolia,
Hats off to you !!!
Anaamak Maanav
Quebec, Canada
Mar 01, 2006 12:00 AM
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Part 1:

Abhishek,

I can't help it if you can't make out the difference between sarcastic comments and thoughtful views... I was pointing out that we welcomed British to have trade with us and we believed them blindly... it took us a while to realize their intentions and feel the pain in our ass... I was drawing the comparisions between that and the current American foreign policies... No trader with brains will ever come to you with an obvious imbalanced framework... he will make sure that ur focus of the partnership guidlines is on short term win-win situation... That's what British did and the we suffered... That's what America does and the world suffers...

> the only objective thing is my self interest. When it comes to self interest it is always objective and that is why foreign policies inorder to be objective should be purely driven by self interest and nothing else.

> Further why the heck should I oppose it when it is not in my self interst.

you certainly do possess terrific sense of humor that makes me cry... Are u complaining abt Siddarth Vashist aka Manu Sharma?? I asked him why did he do that, and he said he did that for his self interests... I asked the contractor who killed Satyendra Dubey why did he do that, and he said he did that for his self interests... I asked Nethuram Godse why did he kill Gandhiji, and he said he did that for his self interests... I asked Prabhakaran why did he kill RajivG, and he said he did that for his self interests... I asked General Dyer why did he kill thousands of innocent people, and he said he did that for his self interests... I asked Lalu why did he turn bihar into rouge state, and he said he did that for his self interests... I asked Sri Sri Sri Sri Sri Sankaracharya of Kanchi matt why did he do "that", and he said he did that for his self interests... I asked Sriman Narendra Modi why did he do a Dyer act, and he said he did that for his self interests...

Can I stop here Abhishek, the self made interesting guy!! So don't u ever dare to complain against someone if you find them doing some unwanted act for their self interests... This is the message you wana give me, isn't it?? Pls correct me if I'm wrong...

> Regarding your point that we should oppose US brutality. Why only US brutality why single out US. Why noy chinese brutality, indian brutality, Srilankan brutality, pakistani brutality or islamic terrorism. Why single out US. Why???

I see, with 3 ?s at the end, that you are getting frustrated... My simple answer for this point is, this article is about "Bowing Before Emperor Bush" and not abt Chinese or Islamic brutalities... I'll definitely talk in those lines if the topic of discussion is about "Brutalities the world over"
raj
Dresden, Germany
Mar 01, 2006 12:00 AM
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Part 2:

> So stop pontificating and preaching and moralising. There is enough dirt in this world and US is not the only bad guy around.

lol, u shud tell this to ur parents, and our beloved Dr. Avul Pakir Jabaluddin... tell them, "Momma, Poppa, aur Mr.President sir, stop pontificating and preaching and moralising. There is enough dirt in this world and I'm not the only bad guy around... I have every right to do bad because every one else is as bad"

> We should grab the oppurtunity from both hands and get to the point where atleast inside our home we are able to give justive to every jessica lal and her family and justice to every riot victim

Pls, pls don't talk abt Jessica or right victims or any other victims... do u remember, self interests, opportunities at our door steps bla bla bla!

> The preachy attitude of last 50 years has just made us destitutes going around the world as beggars with bowls in our hand and also preaching to the people world around about morality when this country is the worst country when it comes to corruption and public life.

You are free to choose ur own way... there's nothing wrong in aiming high, and working hard to lead a prosperous life... for some though, the path matters more than the destination itself...

> this country is the worst country when it comes to corruption and public life.

As I said, all the people whom you think are corrupt, have made their choice, and it is 'to lead a corrupt life'... again, it is based on their self interests...

> Charity begins at home start from there. Start from your hometown or mohalla instead of typing grand words about morality

Just in case, if you ever get a chance to visit Andhra Pradesh, lemme know... I'll take you to my village(Pallamkurru), and then may be you can offer me some more advice...

> , you are just an arm-chair intellectual nothing else.

shud I laugh or cry or pity??
raj
Dresden, Germany
Mar 01, 2006 12:00 AM
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Mr Raj,

I think I have given my point. As your point goes.

I am never against moral positions and india's foreign policy should be based on moral positions, and self interest should not let a person or a country commit crimes or kill people. BUT and this is the BIG BUT.

I dont see America as the BIG SATAN or even this war on terrorism as something bad. You know that afghanistan went away which was a major source of terrorism which was killing innocent people. So that benefits my people. Somebody's bad morality is my good morality. And futher we were being pounded by Pakistanis and there terrorists from afghanistan. So you can always disagree and think of America as the great Satan but again you skirted the question regarding islamic terrorism or chinese agression towards Taiwan or even Russian brutality in there heydays.

So the question arises that we cannot always think in terms of what is good or bad but think in terms of what is good for me and bad for me.

Thinking that acting in self interest will make me a bad person and take me to the dark side. Ya there is a posibility that it may happen. With America that is happening where they dont see that working in there self interest they have actually become criminals. BUT that is not true of india's foreign policy. The day india's foreign policy exhibits criminal kind of attributes then i will be with you shouting slogans against the GREAT INDIAN SATAN. But when it comes to America. I cannot reform them and my focus is only with India and its foreign policy and i dont see anything wrong in working with a great country like America

By trying to draw the point that all criminals did there work out of self interest. Ya i see your point. But then i dont see US as the big SATAN. So my morality is not hurt when i see equal partnership with US.

Anyways it is a big debate and you have to see my point also even though as i see your point.

Further please comment on my point regarding indian fallacies in there own country. So for me the bigger SATAN is Indian State and that is what i have to reform or fight. America is a partner for me which helps me in serving indian people and bringing better life for them.

Looking at it from indian camp i think it is great to work with America.

Further I think you have a notion that a personality like Nathuram Godse can be equated with the state of America which is a little wayward. America is not all that bad. This fight against terrorism has several angles and i support this fight to bring security for my future generation against the bigger SATAN called the facism of Islamic terrorism.

I guess you donot want to see Islamic terrorism as an evil just as i dont want to see the evils of american foreign policy. You are just on the other side of the aisle. Where you will be an apologist of islamic terrorism and i am an apologist of american excesses.

If I have to choose a side I will anyday choose the open society of america than the closed and brutal system called islamic extremism.

Abhishek
Abhishek Drolia
Raipur, India
Feb 28, 2006 12:00 AM
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Ok let me get this point by point.

1. British Raj was a good trading partner for India. Where did you get this idea. I will not comment on this. You can read a whole lot of literature available showing that we were not equal partner but stooges of british raj. We were being exploited against our free will and trade sanctions against ourselves were applied.

I think you are among those people who think that British were somehow good for us because they created a political entity called India which was sucked out of everything it had and then left at the mercy of god to fend for itself.

Comparing equal trading partner with british colonialism is the height of ignorance or complete lack of dishonesty

2. Regarding your point that good or bad is subjective. And exactly that is my point so lets make it objective and the only objective thing is my self interest. When it comes to self interest it is always objective and that is why foreign policies inorder to be objective should be purely driven by self interest and nothing else. Pure and simple. There cannot be any ifs and buts on this.

3. Regarding your point that we should oppose US brutality. Why only US brutality why single out US. Why noy chinese brutality, indian brutality, Srilankan brutality, pakistani brutality or islamic terrorism. Why single out US. Why???. Just because it is the BIG guy and an easy target.

4. Further why the heck should I oppose it when it is not in my self interst. I have enough heachache in my home country to go around preaching in the world regarding morality. We in the state of India has not been able to give justice to jessica lal and her family we are going around the world preaching morality. Khud ke geereban mein dekho you will see lot of dirt. Charity begins at home lets start from there.

So stop pontificating and preaching and moralising. There is enough dirt in this world and US is not the only bad guy around. The Russians during cold war had killed far more people around the world and we were hand in glove with them in pursuit of our self interest.

Today our self interest says that we should forge a strong relationship with US which will bring jobs, development, prosperity and economic vitality. We should grab the oppurtunity from both hands and get to the point where atleast inside our home we are able to give justive to every jessica lal and her family and justice to every riot victim. Food to every hungry and medical treatment to every needy.

The preachy attitude of last 50 years has just made us destitutes going around the world as beggars with bowls in our hand and also preaching to the people world around about morality when this country is the worst country when it comes to corruption and public life.

Charity begins at home start from there. Start from your hometown or mohalla instead of typing grand words about morality, you are just an arm-chair intellectual nothing else.

Abhishek
Abhishek Drolia
Raipur, India
Feb 28, 2006 12:00 AM
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Those of you who are going to join me in protests againt the Bush visit should do two things:

1. Bring along placards showing the infamous cartoons so that everyone can see how terribly outrageous they are, and feel great indignation;

2. Sing a little rousing ditty:

"Ummah O Oooomah !!!!

The least of Thy wishes is like Mama, Mama...!!!"
Rajiv Sandhu
SOUTHALL, United Kingdom
Feb 27, 2006 12:00 AM
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what a crappy article by Bhushan. A piece of s**t. I couldn't read beyond the 2nd page. How much qualified are you to comment on the domestic economy in US? He is talking about NAM. Something which has been a "dead" concept for years. Mr. Bhushan, time for commies like you to wake up. The world is unipolar (there is no USSR) and if you want to benefit you better be an US ally. As simple as that.
ARVIND
ROCHESTER, United States
Feb 27, 2006 12:00 AM
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Thank you so much Mr. Bhushan for your most insightful and courageous article. During this sad time when so many are bowing before the "emperor" it is most refreshing to read about the real picture which clearly shows the true, scary image of the leaders of the so-called "free world". I hope that the leadership in India and other countries will wake up and realize that one really does not need enemies with "friends" like the United States.
Margo
Melbourne, United States
Feb 27, 2006 12:00 AM
17
To Mr Raj,

Let me put some points over here.

Which country is good in this world. Can you give me certain characteristics which make a country good or bad in this world.

Your argument goes that USA is a bully. Just because it is the biggest nation in this world. That makes it a bully. Your beloved USSR had invaded Afghanistan when it had the power to do so. China lords over the people of Taiwan and does not even give them a shred of human rights in there own country. When it comes to Hong Kong it uses it to develop its own homeland but does not give resources back to Hong Kong.

No country is good. There is no morality. When it comes to business, you work with those people who can bring business to you. Provided you dont have to sully your hands.

So that the the real gurumantra of foreign policy. We Indians have no problem with USA. It gives us market for IT products. It brings jobs, oppurtunities and development in this country. We are prospering and making our lifestyle better. We are getting better in terms of health. US citizens are a good market for us. They provide us with roti kapda aur makaan. US is a big trading partner for us and having good relations with them is always in our benefit and that is what we are working towards.

This so called problem of not working along with a bully shows that you are a coward and dont have confidence in yourself.

Your argument is negative. Just work with the weak and remain a weak guy forever consigned to the dustbins of history. The so called NAM approach is the approach of so called weak guys getting together and feeling good about themselves and doing nothing to actually become strong. It had its days and benefits but we have overgrown those days. Today we need a stable trading and technological partner. Who can bring jobs, development, industry, energy into this country to develop us and bring prosperity.

Prosperity does not comes from isolation. It comes from co-operation and imagination and exchange of ideas. And these ideas are developed when we exchange ideas with someone who is proven to be an innovator in almost all fields of life. And lets give it to the people of US that they have been able to develop so rapidly just because of there innovative mind.

Abhishek
Abhishek Drolia
Raipur, India
Feb 27, 2006 12:00 AM
16
Wow! If one were to go truly by this article then it would seem as if all the ills of the world can be squarely blamed on US.

One can empathize with the author's principled stand if the author had expressed the same reservation when the Indian Govt. was fecilitating the repressive Saudi Regime.

This kind of selective stand does not impress.
Navdeep Hans
Delhi, India
Feb 27, 2006 12:00 AM
15
Non aligned movement ? Now ??

Mr.Bhushan - Wake up and smell the coffee.. the world has changed.. Do you still want India to align with tinpot dictatorshps like venezuela or cuba or north korea or partner with the sole super power for mutual benefit ? Not every one in india wants to become a card carrying member of the communist party or a "walking , protesting , sovereign republic" , wanting to seccede from india,,as told famously by your fellow comrade arundhati roy. sometimes back..

Alka from US - why are you still staying in this evil country US governed by the devil bush? Protest with your feet , get out of US and settle down in Pakistan , Afghanistan , Iran or palestine for good. You cant have the cake and eat it too..

thx.
shankar
Mumbai, India
Feb 27, 2006 12:00 AM
14
Prashat Bhushan, Teesta Setalvad, Romila Thapar, Arundhati Roy. Praful Bidwai, Kuldip Nayar, and so many others are typical of the Indian intelligentsia - completely lacking in integrity. They lack even the commonest sense of decency and indulge in double-standards to a disgusting degree. They are prepared to attack only those developments that seem in some sense opposed by the militant mullah gang in India...Anything to lick the Muslim backside, seems to be their slogan. The feed the Muslim's pathological narcissism. the most far-fetchedcand petty grievance of M
On the other hand, we have the caste Hindu trash propagandists like Arun Shourie, M.V. Kamath, Balbir Punj, Rajiv Malhotra, Meenakshi Jain, etc. They, too, are utterly bereft of integrity. They condemn the crimes of Islam - which are real - but are dead set on hiding the hideous crimes of Hinduism.

What a foul crew !!!!

Why are the Indian intellectuals like this? In Britain and the US intellectuals generally have some decency, and do try to a large extent to avoid double-standards. Why does India breed these political prostitutes in such larghe numbers?
Rajiv Sandhu
SOUTHALL, United Kingdom
Feb 27, 2006 12:00 AM
13
dear rajiv sandhu,well said.but taking a middle ground dosent satisfy users of this forum as you have not said who reprsents this middle ground and who are your kind of intellgensias or your role models.If you say american or the british intelligensia are more decent than indian then you better not comment on those who are no good.probably if you let us know whom you call as decent in India then only we can comment.But by going thru your earlier posts you want to be a proud dalit supporter.I appreciate that but you need not show some one down raher you explain what is that good in you.But if you want us to believe that those dalit leaders as good like mayavati or ram vilas paswan then sorry.Its the very dalits who themselves have decimated these self styled leades while those like Kancha Illaya or Udit Raj I am afraid they too do not represent the dalits as they are only facilitators for the christian missioneries.India has bred a lot of intellegent people and the whole world recognised it and i think people like you are exceptions.
rajdeep
Bangalore, India
Feb 27, 2006 12:00 AM
12
Part 1:

Abhishek,

>Which country is good in this world. Can you give me certain characteristics which make a country good or bad in this world.

I leave this to your conscience... when we discuss abt good and bad we'll only end up at philosophical debate... Can you give me certain characteristics which make a "person" good or bad in this world?? The answer for this question also applies for a "country"...

> Your argument goes that USA is a bully. Just because it is the biggest nation in this world. That makes it a bully.

Is this what u've infered from my message?? cud u pls point out the sentences of mine that made you to come to this conclusion!! I thought I had put my views in most comprehensive way, but I'm surprised to know that there are people who still have a problem to understand plainest of the words... Ok, once again, My argument of US being a bully is: It is a bully(noun), it does bully(verb), it prides itselef for its bully(adverb) acts, it has a bullyish(adjective) attitude... For some time, my friend, forget abt comparing other countries' bully acts with that of US'... The point here is, how good are the intentions of US' foreign policies! You(Abhishek) belong to those 99.99% of the people who immidiately raise the question of other's attitude and start comparing instead of accepting(or discussing) one's own negitive aspects... If we take this route, then even India has a lot of mud on it... some of them are: Isn't it double standards on the face to start NAM and ally with Russia, "parallely"?? One way of answering this riddle is that the issue of Socialism (rather than Capitalism) had a big role to follow the russians than saying that we allied with them... And yes, if India didn't voice its concerns(vote) in UN against the Russian invasion in Afganisthan then it is a blunder by India... Did I, in any angle, in my previous post, meant to say that India shud ally with Russia, China, Iran and so on and support their invasions and bullyish acts??

>US is a big trading partner for us and having good relations with them is always in our benefit and that is what we are working towards.

Why didn't we do that with British Raj?? Why didn't Gandhiji, Nehru, Bose and co didn't think this way?? British were very good trading partners for India for almost 2 centuries... we enjoyed a lot of benifits from them... they built roads, railways, given civil, judiciary and police to us, maintained communal balance and so on and so on... so why were our freedom heros so foolish to forget all this and adamant of throwing them away??

No one has a problem working with any trading partner as long as that partner has some basic principles that are consistant... India and US have mutual benifits in trade, and this is not a problem for any one... My argument is not to condemn US in every front, but there are definitely certain regions in foreign relations where you have to have a strong voice to condemn the tampering of principles... India clearly has a blind eye on US' world tampering (it also turned blind eye on Russian misadventures in the past, just incase if you think that I'm endorsing other misdeeds), because, India thinks that it is not in the best of our interests to upset Sam... This is where my point lies... For almost a century, people of the subcontinent thought in similar lines that it is not in the best of our interests to upset Raj... You see the point here?? Raj is being replaced by Sam... It's just a matter of time that people will realise this... At the moment we are 200 yrs behind...

> This so called problem of not working along with a bully shows that you are a coward and dont have confidence in yourself.

I dont't know whether to cry at ur sense of humor or pity your ignorance...
raj
Dresden, Germany
Feb 27, 2006 12:00 AM
11
Part 2:

> The so called NAM approach is the approach of so called weak guys getting together and feeling good about themselves and doing nothing to actually become strong.

Similar condition that we faced during the 17th and early 18th centuries...

> It had its days and benefits but we have overgrown those days. Today we need a stable trading and technological partner. Who can bring jobs, development, industry, energy into this country to develop us and bring prosperity.

That's why we embraced BritishRaj...

> Prosperity does not comes from isolation. It comes from co-operation and imagination and exchange of ideas. And these ideas are developed when we exchange ideas with someone who is proven to be an innovator in almost all fields of life

Agreed, this works well as long as both the parties work with commitment and not trying to take advantage of the other... When you realise that you are being ditched, its few decades, or even centuries, too late...

One can argue that it was good for India to have British in India who had good trade and so on, and we had to fight them b'cos they started to take advantage of us... so as long as we are getting benifited why not enjoy the benifits... Well, I can't really argue with this, but all I can say is that we must take this(being ditched at some point) into consideration and act now to raise the concerns, and not remain silent with heads down all the time just to get the goodies...
raj
Dresden, Germany
Feb 26, 2006 12:00 AM
10
All the Dubyas who are barking for India having close ties with US, I see a common point... I really suspect the men behind these posts are the work of CIA, but anyway, that's not the point what I meant... The common theme of those posts is that, India's national interest will serve better if we align with US, so forget abt the morals in foreign policies and international politics and simply rally with Uncle Sam so that we can get all the cookies and goodies...

Assuming that these guys behind the posts are really NRIs, I wana tell you this...

How often in your life did you try to make friendship with a person who is a bully, notoriously arrogant, unethical, unprincipled, BUT wealthy, strong, power yielding muscle man etc etc?? When you see this kind of a guy in ur college or neighbourhood or friends circle what do you do? Do you make friendship with him thinking that it is better we join him so that we can also showoff to the rest that we are with the powerful and no one can try to play smart with us?? A typical case of pure personal interests... we see this kinda situation in most of the bollywood movies...

US has done, is doing and will do a lot of good for the world in the technological front... this is an undeniable fact... US also has done, is doing and will do a lot of bad for the world in many fronts...

1. For the sake if its pure commercial interests it can make and/or break any country that it pleases to... For example, Saudi, Iraq and now Iran etc... (Any disagreements ??)
2. For the sake of its pure national interests it can support and/or topple any regime that it pleases to... For example, Taliban, Afganisthan, Pakistan etc... (Any disagreements ??)
3. For the sake of its pure Idiological interests it can kiss and/or kick any community that it pleases to... For example, Israel, Palestine etc... (Any disagreements??)

All the above points are very very general, the more specific I go the bigger the list grow...

Even without the help of US, India has the respect, wealth(monetery and intellectual), muscle power(economy and military), human capital, vibrant democracy and a lot, to stand with our heads held high and command, not demand, respect through out the world, irrespective of the communities and countries...

Inspite of having all these, why are we afraid to say the fact that what US is doing in many fronts(environment, WMDs, double standards in free trade, well double standars in everywhere, obsession for planting democracy with force and a lot) is not good for the world?? Why are we afraid to point out this simple fact and stay away with them in these issues?? One has to appreciate the good things and cooperate in good aspects and at the same time one shud not be afraid to point out the obvious flaws, particularly when we are in a position of self reliance... Why shud a pupil be afraid of pointing out the obvious mistakes that the master makes?? This is what our parents, teachers and well wishers always advice, teach and remind us, that one shud never compromise on our self respect in what ever we do...

May be, self respect is not a part of national interests and international politics, but, what really worries me is the fact that many people here are endorsing the misgivings of US instead of criticizing them... they implicitly say that we must not raise our voice against US for its wrong doings just for the sake of, sake of, sake of... what?? nuclear power? military power? place in the high table??

(to be cont.)
raj
Dresden, Germany
Feb 26, 2006 12:00 AM
9
Our scientists are doing an excellent job in the nuclear front, and their resolve will only increase with every humiliation they are recieving from US & co... Our military is strong enuf to contain China and we don't have to worry abt any military adventure on us... Our economy is large enuf to sustain our needs for a long long time... So what are we worrying for?? Why shud we lower our heads?? We did that for centuries, and now we are ready to do that again... it took us few decades of hard work to be what we are today, and now we wana go to the same mode again!

I'm not asking for cutting the ties with any country, but all I wana see is to have a balanced world, appreciate and follow the good, but also stand against the bad... For that, one needs to stand against the wrong doer, however powerful he might be, and to do this one needs resolve and character...

There were many great personalities in the past who stood against the wrong doings of colonial rule, not only in India but in many parts of the world... They didn't align with the masters for instant goodies and cookies, but stood against them with morale and self belief... If you consider the simple case of Nehru and Gandhi, they fought against british for most of their lives but still commanded respect from them and England was and is a friend and never an enemy... Today, what US is trying to do is also a kind of commercial colonisation... We don't have to be afraid or ashamed of standing against it, and this doesn't mean that we will become enemies... But, if we keep maintaining silence, just for the sake of our temporary national interests, just like we did during the 18th and 19th centuries, then it is going to be a cancer to the entire world... Not even in the wildest imagination do I think that one will opt non-violence to fight this cancer...
raj
Dresden, Germany
Feb 26, 2006 12:00 AM
8
Extremely well put. Our policy makers should be taking this and more into our strategic thinking.
alka
San Mateo, USA
Feb 25, 2006 12:00 AM
7
well articulated Mr.Bhushan... nothing to disagree... I really wish those bush ass lickers to spare some future sense...
raj
Dresden, Germany
Feb 25, 2006 12:00 AM
6
Prashant Bhushan is not saying anything new. In fact whatever he is saying is with a distorted view. He conveniently puts every possible problem in this world at the doorstep of Bush and US. Now a country as large and as powerful as US will have footprints in most of the places and in some case in places where you would not like. Bhushan, the lawyer, thinks that like an over emotive scene in hindi movies his continuous, high pitched, repeated rants will hold water. Answer is emphatic No. Before Bhushan and others brand me as a pro-US stooge, let me clarify that I'm not a great fan of US but I would like to balanced in my judgements and calculative about my interests (or rather national interest).

Bhushan wants us to believe that by aligning with US we are jeopardizing our relationship with China, Pakistan and Iran. I would like to know from Bhushan, as to what kind of relationship are we talking about? Chinese build their entire economy around US and you want me to believe it is bad if India does so. Stop this crap! Pakistan build its entire existence around US, and you want us to believe, it is not good if we have some kind of relation with US. Of the 3 countries, we fought wars with two and they are scheming day and night to contain India. So what do you want, we should beg them not to hurt us! Iran always without exception supported Pakistan whenever it moved Kashmir resolution in OIC. The very fact that we are featherweight in international calculus is that we have no backing of a large bloc be it US, Europe, OIC and Communist bloc. Out of this US is the only one which is willing to give us the space on the foot board.

Bhushan's second rant is about US economy and his policies. I care two hoots what US does to keep its dollar alive. I mean it is their national interest and of many other countries too (including India) that the current international monetary system remains stable. If their is a change let that be gradual and calibrated. You have not been able to convince yourself of the conspiracy that oil trade may shift from dollar to euro because in the very same breadth you mention that Saudi petro dollars are saving grace for US economy. Do you think Saudis are as idiot as you are to shoot themselves in foot by moving the oil trade from dollar to euro and yet keep trillions of dollar deposits in US banks.

Bhushan also speaks ill of same English media in which he gives his views, as if it is an entity outside of himself. Bhushan, you are one of those experts in Indian English media. Finally, your article is more a stuff of rhetoric and more for consuption of gullibles.
Hitansh
Bangalore, India
Feb 25, 2006 12:00 AM
5
Mr Bhushan's article is perhaps too partisan and overly indebted to Chomsky's opinions. India has of course to maintain a safe distance from a hegemonistic super-power, but at the same time we do not want to become so paranoid that we miss opportunities deriving from a cordial, prudent and mutually beneficial relationship.
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
Feb 25, 2006 12:00 AM
4
Mr. Bhushan has unfortunately allowed his bile to wash away his own principles on which he has honorably built his own legal public interest and human rights career!

Simply on principles, you want India to value its "friendship" with China with the worst human rights record ("great leap forward", tibet, muzzling of free speech today, all in your lifespan costing millions of lives), Pakistan without any democracy or respect for minorities and Iran -- well a mullah shahi that is dear to you and so is its right to build nuclear weapons, when you profess secularism, free speech, demilitarization, etc.? Why are those virtues when practiced by India's worst enemies??

You should stay with your laudable human rights practice. For India's sake, please ask yourselves what you and the hon'ble Shanti Bhushan really stand for, and then don't side with anyone (including the US) that go against those principles, even if it is your new commmunist and islamist friends (and by proxy China and Iran). You could spend the time writing about improving the screwed-up non-existing public prosecution, getting justice to the Manjunaths, keeping up your almost unique and noteworthy fight against the Indian judiciary.

Please stay away from economics and international politics -- on both you are allowing your fine, legal and moral mind corrupted by the communists and the likes of Chomsky/Roy. Please!! India needs you on those fronts. Nehru's "craftiness" on NAM only got us friendship with the crackpot despots in Africa, Asia, Arab and elsewhere. None of them remotely share the progressive principles human rights, freedom of religion and free speech, you profess!!

CANT YOU SEE, PRASHANT??
Viveka P
San Francisco, United States
Feb 25, 2006 12:00 AM
3
When I went into business I realised there was one fast way to sucess. Do business with the big and rich companies, and ignore the small ones, who bought little and some could not pay their bills.

This applies to foreign affairs as well. India should strive for good relations with USA, EU and generally the large sucessful countries of the East eg China, Japan, Korea and Taiwan. Ofcource there are others too.

However our secular intellectuals are always on to fighting USA under the evil George Bush, and makeing friends with our traditional friends such as Iran. Cuba etc. Fat good will these do India.

Well these secular intellectuals would not last more then a few days in business, and are just
the wrong guys to be giveing advice on any serious matter.

This is plain common sense, but when was commonsense anything regarded well in India.
Many in politics would prefer the advice of the loonies in the left and amongst the brain dead muslims controlled parties.

Old Mac

I am leaveing Delhi soon, heading back to Denmark. We have a very nice zoo in Copenhagen
and guests are always welcome.

The Chimps there will be happy to meet you.
lalit bagai
kalundborg, Brazil
Feb 25, 2006 12:00 AM
2
A highly deserved one by Bhushan. More such mature and brave ideas need to come out else we are definately going to be ditched. This one's for those who very eagerly pose in front of cameras and goras and voila what if they get a chance to shake hands with todays ruler of the world! Those who disagreed with Bhushan, I vouch, definately dont have spines in them and indian blood flowing in them....
Nikhil
Pune, India
Feb 25, 2006 12:00 AM
1
Why should India give a damn about what happened in Iraq and Abu Gharib or some Bay cell. How does it concern us? It's amazing that there are rogue journos in this country who say that we ignore the terrorist killings in our own backyard (J&K) but worry about the treatment of some barbaric mullahs in far away land. Did Mr. Bhushan and the p-sec crowd make any issue when Musharaaf was given a warm welcome and accorded a Presidential visit to India? Everyone knows he and his rogue military were organizing the biggest genocide in Kashmir while contuining to needle India on the peace process. How many articles did you write on this issue? When we don't have any sense of shame in inviting Musharaaf, on what moral grounds are we going to oppose Bush visit? One reason why India lost it's relevancing for few decades after independence is because we pissed off the world by constantly preaching morals in foreign policy. We invite Musharaaf, our arch enemy but we oppose Bush. So where's the morality in that?

Anyway, who is complaining about America. Even the Dubai King, the so called custodian of islamic terrorism is happily doing business with Bush. UAE is doing the same. Despite Iraq, Afghanistan war, deiscrimination of mullahs by the bush administration, the prison scandal, all the muslim countries except Iran are doing business with Bush, protecting their own commericial and national interests in the process. So why should India care?

India's relations with USA should be guided our own economic, political and national security interests. India is a Hindu country with the minorities given the right to practice their religion. So, we don't represent islam. So it is not our responsibility to protest Bush for what he did. It's plain and simple. If Bush visit is beneficial to both the countries, we take it. That is the right thing to do. For me as an Indian and a Hindu, the biggest global terrorist in the world is Musharaaf, not Bush. Let worry about the terrorism faced by India from our own neighborhood and leave the middle east politics to themselves. Anyway, when did these countries come to our aid when Pakistan was butchering us? Everybody knows what happens in OIC meetings on Kashmir issue. So, my suggestion to you Mr. Bhushan, just shut up and take your perverted logic somewhere else.
Venkatesh
IL, United States
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