JAM Magazine quotes a senior McKinsey official, "We have neither hired anyone from IIPM nor picked up anyone for summer training till date."
Cyberspace
Bite In The Blog Bark
A B-school vs bloggers. The war has raised a flurry of questions — are blogs personal diaries in the public domain or can they be legislated?
It was just another blog. In June this year, a Mumbai-based youth magazine, JAM, carried a piece demolishing the tall claims made by a Delhi-based B-School, IIPM (Indian Institute of Planning and Management). The magazine's editor, Rashmi Bansal, wrote a one-liner on her personal blog asking people to read the story.
 
 
The threat of a defamation suit by The Times Of India forced Mediaah.com to shut shop in '04.
 
 
And then, all hell broke loose. There was mayhem in cyberspace. For those numerous surfers, it turned out to be a typical David vs Goliath story. An unknown Bansal fighting a B-School owned by powerful promoters who have dabbled in Bollywood and media.

Bansal was slapped a 'legal' notice over e-mail by IIPM (summons are issued by courts or authorities created by statute, which IIPM certainly isn't) demanding Rs 25 crore for the presumed loss of goodwill. Nasty messages were posted on Bansal's personal blog, threatening her with dire consequences in case she pursued with her campaign. The JAM article had stated that an IIPM degree was not recognised, the placements it was claiming for its students in firms like HLL and McKinsey hadn't happened and IIPM was fudging data about rankings it had received in various B-School surveys (including ones conducted by Outlook).

At least one IIM graduate, Gaurav Sabnis, a 25-year-old IBM India employee and an active blogger, lost his job because he posted his reactions and a link to the JAM's piece on his web page. An outraged IIPM sent a Rs 125-crore legal notice to Sabnis. But more than that, the institute forced IBM to take action against Sabnis by threatening to burn some 150 new IBM laptops in front of its office if the company did not force Sabnis to remove the contentious information from his blog.

Taking the high moral ground, and defending his right to free speech, Sabnis chucked up his job. He claimed there was no pressure from IBM, but he resigned to spare the company a public-relations embarrassment. "The first thing that is dear to me is my freedom of speech. The second thing dear to me is IBM's well-being. IBM has been a good employer," he says. Critics contend that he quit because he got a fellowship which timed well with the blogger's campaign against IIPM.

Overnight, the blog battle became a global event. Apparently, luminaries like Noam Chomsky, Sri Sri Ravishankar, and Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer praised IIPM. Surprisingly, these reactions vanished within days of being posted on the web. Critics feel the quotes may have been "manufactured".


CURIOUSGAWKER.blogspot.com has this to say, "This daisychain of institutes exist ambiguously on the net with no information other than the claim that they churn out large number of high quality MBAs"

To counter IIPM's apparently below-the-belt jabs, desi bloggers launched their own version of a Google-powered investigation on the institute and its founders.A US-based blogger discovered a statement by Malayendra Kishor Chaudhuri, director, IIPM, to the Election Commission—he fought the '04 parliamentary elections from Balasore in Orissa—stating he had a masters in science from the Berlin School of Economics in '62 and a PhD from the institute in '63. Another blogger in Germany noticed the institute was founded only in '71, eight years after Chaudhuri claimed to have been there.

. The issue became so hot that IIPM became the most searched term on Technorati.com (a search engine for blogs) for almost a week, even beating Apple's new range of video iPods launched at the same time.It is estimated that nearly 500 bloggers wrote on the IIPM issue, and are still tracking it.This is the second time in the last two years that bloggers have found themselves at the wrong end of the stick.In '04, Mumbai-based journalist Pradyuman Maheshwari, who wrote the gossipy blog Mediaah.com, had to shut shop as the Times of India threatened to file a defamation suit against it.

The sequence of events threw up expected questions. Should blogs, which are internet-based personal logs of events, be covered under the IT Act? Can bloggers defend their actions saying they are protected as per the fundamental rights under the Constitution? More important, does l'affaire IIPM prove there's a need to clarify the rights and responsibilities of a blogger? Should blogs be treated as any other information source like web portals or newspapers?


POSTED ANONYMOUS ON RASHMI'S BLOG "Your s*** stuff on IIPM is so a********. What you've written is totally false. At least write some believable stuff you lizard"

The Indian blogging community (or blogosphere, as it likes to call itself) is essentially a bitchy, self-indulgent and an almost incestuous network comprising journalists, wannabe-writers and a massive army of geeks who give vent to their creative ambitions on the internet. Given that the average blogger-age is 25 years, it's clear bloggers love to indulge in hearty name-calling and taking college-style potshots at others. This is probably why some of them get into trouble.

Going by the popularity of several Indian blogs, and the increasing proclivity among internet users to frequent them for information on niche issues like films, literature, and sports, it seems the time has come to lay down the ground rules for both bloggers and their targets. A Mumbai-based lawyer, Amod Paranjape, (in yet another blog) says in this particular IIPM case, both Bansal and Sabnis are on the right side of the law. "Unless and until a corporation or a company can specify whether the said articles by JAM or Sabnis resulted in tangible business losses and provide evidence for the same, it has no grounds to proceed for defamation. Once a defamation suit is filed, the claims made in the said article will be checked for veracity by the court," he says.

Award-winning blogger Amit Varma, whose independent coverage of the tsunami was considered a pioneering effort in India, says blogs are governed by the rules that apply for other media. But he agrees, "it is difficult to enforce these laws on the huge number of bloggers." Other bloggers, including Varma, feel there is a lot of self-regulation within the blogosphere. "The minute someone writes a factually incorrect story, over 50 other bloggers will corner him and his credibility will go for a toss, so does the traffic to his page," explains Varma.


MALAY CHAUDHURI LISTEN UP "The concept of Bachelor and Master degrees was, till a few years ago, as alien in Germany as little green men on Juhu chowpatty," says sumtya.blogspot.com

"The incident shows blogs are a potent weapon that could help improve accountability.Such investigations and campaigns are more effective as the transaction cost of spreading and sharing information is minimal compared to other media," says Bansal. In the future, blogs may also be used as a powerful tool for pushing political ideas as it happened during the last US elections. For example, bloggers first linked to Swiftvets.com's anti-John Kerry video and then kept the accusations alive until Kerry busted their claims using mainstream media.In another instance, bloggers questioned CBS News' credibility over the memos purportedly alleging preferential treatment towards President Bush during the Vietnam war launching a flurry of discussions across the country.Dan Rather, the blogger, had to soon apologise for the story.

However, bloggers will continue to face opposition from powerful interest groups, which will always try and target their claims to veracity.As the IIPM episode itself shows, the targeted entity blamed jealous parties for the campaign against it."We are stunned as to how people from IIMs, who are the most pampered people of India, suffer from so much inferiority complex from IIPM that, given the first opportunity to pen something (be it the so-called IIM-L professor Amit Kapoor, or ex-IIM students like Rashmi or Gaurav and all the other IIM students on the net and other media), they stoop down so low as to write relentless lies about us and spread baseless rumours about IIPM," said a widely-circulated IIPM statement.

Still, bloggers aren't worried about such things. In fact, they are confident that the IIPM's founder may soon hear from the Election Commission.

 
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Feb 12, 2006 12:00 AM
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Will Outlook do a story on what hapened to the legal notices sent?? Or it is enough for you to mention scary multi-crore and forget all about it? Bloggers have long memories.
Natty
Limba, India
Oct 29, 2005 12:00 AM
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It can also be used to describe your magazine. Except you people are essentially a bitchy, self-indulgent and an almost incestuous network comprising pseudo secular journalists, leftist writers and a massive army Sonia Gandhi fans.
sudeep
bangalore, India
Oct 29, 2005 12:00 AM
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I would like to point out one mistake in this story, because it is a wrong example: Dan Rather is not and never was a blogger - as was presented in the story. Rather was a veteran CBS news anchor forced to resign because he broadcast a story about Bush's vietnam record based on documents that turned out to be false. His folly lay in not verifying the authenticity of the documents - a fact that the blogging community pointed out.
anupreeta
delhi, india
Oct 26, 2005 12:00 AM
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Yet another biased article from Outlook. hmm. You have your own reasons for that. You will be losing your revenues from shady outfits like IIPM and Amity. You dont have any social responsibilities but only the worry as to how to fill the coffers of your promoter. And you journos will get paid good, get invited to page three parties and in the night write trash on secularism and social justice. Instead of blaming the bloggers for the fracas, why dont you take a peek at your patrons' businesses? You will be doing a great service towards many students who read your magazine.
Seethi Haji
Malappuram, India
Oct 25, 2005 12:00 AM
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Can you please clarify the basis behind this statement ?
"or blogosphere, as it likes to call itself) is essentially a bitchy, self-indulgent and an almost incestuous network comprising journalists, wannabe-writers and a massive army of geeks who give vent to their creative ambitions on the internet. Given that the average blogger-age is 25 years, it's clear bloggers love to indulge in hearty name-calling and taking college-style potshots at others".

I agree that just bloggers should have responsibilities, and not just rights?

But,how about wondering if the media (not just print) might think twice before hurting its sponsors? And why JAM had to break the story and not someone from the mainstream media?
gayathri
Chennai, India
Oct 25, 2005 12:00 AM
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Yaaawn! Won't we ever stop blogging on the IIPM issue! Ponytail has got far more bytes than he deserves.

Yippie, we have been joined by T R Vivek of Outlook who adds some excitement and colour.

Thank you Vivek for trivialising the whole matter by shoving the blame onto our doorsteps. Wish you could have used your journalistic nose for investigating if there was any truth in any of IIPM's claims and its questionable rankings. But alas you chose a softer target - us bloggers! Well you definitely are assured overnight notoriety in cyberspace if nothing else. Was it the lure of 15 seconds of fame that drove you to this madness Baby? Did it ever occur to your melon-seed sized brain (after your colourfull description of us bloggers above I am tempted to do some name calling myself...) that all those who blogged were doing so not for driving traffic to their 'daily diaries' but because they felt they had something to say. Does freedom of speech and democracy ring a bell anywhere in your hollow brain?

Would Outlook itself have withdrawn the rankings given to IIPM if it were not for the attention this controversy has drawn? Or was it just a coincidence that this move came around the same time as curious bloggers were turning on the heat! On the same issue, how can a publication of the stature of Outlook base its rankings on what an institution CHOOSES to disclose? Do you extend the same logic when writing about political parties and business houses? No. Well why is this courtesy extended to B Schools! Maybe because it is an easy exit route when things start falling apart. Mehta Uncle aapke raj mein kya ho raha hai?

What an irony. A Vivek can get away with mud slinging and cheap thrills and is still called a "journalist" because he is with a main stream publication. And we bloggers with our average IQs, limited resources and dense views have to contend with the epithet of "wannabe-writers". This just goes on to prove that main stream media can trivialise any issue. Ofcourse we don't expect any of them (Outlook included) to criticise IIPM in any way. Afterall who bites the hand that gives them ad revenues!

Satya-mev Jayate?
usha
New York, India
Oct 25, 2005 12:00 AM
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Dude, I don't think Dan Rather is a blogger. He's actually the anchor of the show. And a super famous one at that; part of the holy trinity of U.S. news broadcasting Seriously, for a journalist, making a mistake like that is ridiculous.
Radagast
Palo Alto, United States
Oct 24, 2005 12:00 AM
9
Great Story, summed up the whole affair. There is one inaccuracy though, Dan Rather is not a blogger, he was the CBS News Anchor.
Anil kumar
Edinburgh, United Kingdom
Oct 24, 2005 12:00 AM
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Why don't you go file a story on IIPM's real credentials? Don't have what it takes, huh? Uncle Mehta said he doesn't wanna get into legal wrangles?

Many blogs have better opinion and research than an year's subscription of Outlook. They also don't cut down trees, and the bloggers don't act as if the sun shines out of their behinds, like journalists do.

BTW, remember that Judith Miller was first targeted by blogs as well.
chandra
Portland, USA
Oct 24, 2005 12:00 AM
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Why isn't the media doing its job of establishing the veracity of tall claims by IIPM or other institutes?

It speaks a lot that the only defense IIPM put up is to complain about "inferiority complex" of IIM-ites. Some of the people involved in the whole IIPM fracas might be IIM alumni. But most of us are not; we are equally concerned about the quality of education in India as Rashmi and Gaurav. We are also concerned about our right to free speech. That is why most of us are rallying behind Gaurav and Rashmi.
NKaisare
Atlanta, USA
Oct 23, 2005 12:00 AM
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First Mr. Vivek labels Indian bloggers as a "bitchy, self-indulgent, incestous network" and then accuses THEM of name-calling and taking potshots at others?

And still the mainstream media continues to ignore the real issue. Has it ever occurred to you that maybe, just MAYBE, the bloggers aren't doing this imply to drive traffic to their blogs? That there might be something to these 'allegations'? And that maybe the so-called 'real journalists' should be doing the work here?
Shrikant Narasimhan
Chennai, India
Oct 23, 2005 12:00 AM
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The Indian blogging community (or blogosphere, as it likes to call itself) is essentially a bitchy, self-indulgent and an almost incestuous network comprising journalists, wannabe-writers and a massive army of geeks who give vent to their creative ambitions on the internet. Given that the average blogger-age is 25 years, it's clear bloggers love to indulge in hearty name-calling and taking college-style potshots at others. This is probably why some of them get into trouble.
As a blogger, I find this description particularly offensive. I am wondering how the average age of bloggers was arrived at, especially because you have chosen to attribute all our "defining characteristics" to this very stat. Even in this issue, everybody who has taken potshots at the educational institution in question has sought to back it up with facts. You have clearly not seen the whole picture here. I request you to look at all those links where people have attempted to reach out to the institution and have unearthed more and more subterfuges, before blaming all the 25 year olds in India.
Ananthanarayanan Subramanian
Chennai, India
Oct 23, 2005 12:00 AM
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The article "Bite In The Blog Bark" by T.R.Vivek is good. It brings out important points about the role of blogs in the media. Mr. Vivek has done a good job of highlighting the recent IIPM controversy. What surprises me is none of the mainstream media (including Outlook) has not made a single attempt to verify the claims made by IIPM in the advertisements. The root of the whole issue is these claims. Isn't it the job of mainstream media like you to investigate these things?

Mr. Vivek has also not checked the facts correctly before writing the article. Writing about the CBS, Dan Rather issue he says

"In another instance, bloggers questioned CBS News' credibility over the memos purportedly alleging preferential treatment towards President Bush during the Vietnam war launching a flurry of discussions across the country.Dan Rather, the blogger, had to soon apologise for the story."

Mr. Vivek: Dan Rather was not "the blogger" he was the CBS news anchor who broke the story about these memos. It were the bloggers who investigate and found that the memos were fake. Due to this Dan Rather had to apologize "on air". So the bloggers actually did the right thing.

I am not sure why Mr. Vivek is so biased towards the bloggers. Perhaps he is worried that their influence may change the mainstream media.

I think bloggers or not, mainstream media in India seriously needs to change the way it functions.
Sameer Marathe
State College, United States
Oct 22, 2005 12:00 AM
3
Can I ask T. R. Vivek what are the grounds on his forming the following conlusion?
"The Indian blogging community (or blogosphere, as it likes to call itself) is essentially a bitchy, self-indulgent and an almost incestuous network comprising journalists, wannabe-writers and a massive army of geeks who give vent to their creative ambitions on the internet. Given that the average blogger-age is 25 years, it's clear bloggers love to indulge in hearty name-calling and taking college-style potshots at others. This is probably why some of them get into trouble."

How can he claim that the bloggers to be essentially a bitchy, self-indulgent and an almost incestuous network comprising journalists, wannabe-writers? How can he claim that the average age of the bloggers is 25 years?

Does Outlook subsribe to these views or are these the author's personal views? One can't just go ahead and make such a generalised statement based on heresy.

he claims that since the average age of bloggers is 25, bloggers love to indulge in hearty name-calling and taking college-style potshots at others. This is probably why some of them get into trouble. How many bloggers have so far landed into trouble? In his article he has just named three or four. But from his artcile, one might deduce that the majority of bloggers get into some sort of trouble.

I never thought that Outlook could indulge in such a juvenile and crass journalism. Or maybe the editor is sleeping on his job.
Rajeev
Delhi, India
Oct 22, 2005 12:00 AM
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In a similar you may like to see what I found about Amity Business School. Have a look at



http://traveltalesfromi...out-amity-business.html


and particulalry at this Rajya Sabha Transcript



http://meaindia.nic.in/...t/rs/2005/05/12rs07.htm



And I wonder what is he latest rating given by you to Amity Business School!
Mridula Dwivedi
Delhi, India
Oct 22, 2005 12:00 AM
1
"Dan Rather, the blogger, had to soon apologise for the story."

I suppose, that should read as "Dan Rather, the anchor of the show..."
Badri Seshadri
Chennai, India
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