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The word 'Hijab' is relatively new for me. It was not a part of my vocabulary as I was growing up. I learned it much later, when I began to read literary and religious Urdu texts...

The word ‘Hijab’ is relatively new for me. It was not a part of my vocabulary as I was growing up. I learned it much later, when I began to read literary and religious Urdu texts. That is how I also learned other such culturally potent words as Ishq (Passion) and Siyasat (Politics), and Tasavvuf (Mysticism). The relevant word that I learned growing up was purdah. And I learned the word and its many meanings in the observed practice of the various female members of my middle-class family in Bara Banki, a small town in north India.

For Ammi, my grandmother, purdah meant almost never venturing out of the house. On the rare occasions when she did, it was always an elaborate ritual. Visiting a family in the neighbourhood -- only on the occasion of some tragedy, as I remember -- she used a doli. The little stool slung from a pole that two men carried would be brought to our back door -- the door to the zanana or the ladies’ section -- and the two carriers would step away behind the curtain wall. Ammi would wrap herself in a white sheet and squat on the flat stool, and a heavy custom-made cover would be thrown over her and the doli. The two bearers would then come back and carry the doli away on their shoulders.

When Ammi traveled in my father’s car, she covered herself the same way, while the back seat of the car where she sat was made completely invisible by pieces of cloth hung across the windows. Years earlier, she had traveled all the way to Mecca with her daughter and son-in-law to perform the Hajj. I don’t know how she covered herself during the journey itself, but in the holy city she must have done what all Muslim women are required to do: perform the many rituals together with men while keeping their hair and bodies covered but faces fully exposed. She acted in Mecca the way it was required of her by Islam, her religion, while in Bara Banki she did what was demanded by her culture -- the culture of the sharif or genteel people of Avadh.

Apa, my mother belonged, to the next generation. She used a burqa. Hers was a two piece ‘modern’ outfit, as opposed to the one-piece -- derisively called ‘the shuttlecock’ by my sisters -- that was preferred by the older or more conservatively spirited in the family. I also remember that the older generation’s burqas were usually white, while the new burqas were always black.

Apa’s burqa’ consisted of a skirt and a separate top throw -- one that covered her from the head to the thighs. The two pieces allowed for easier movement of both arms and legs. The top had a separate veil hanging over the face, which Apa could throw back in the company of women, e.g. while traveling in the ladies compartment on a train, or hold partly aside to look at things more closely when she went shopping. Apa wore a burqa all her life, except of course when she went to Mecca for Hajj. There she wore the same sheets of ihram that Ammi had to were earlier. Like all women pilgrims then and now, she too exposed her face to everyone’s sight but not her hair.

My older sisters went to a school in Lucknow where they boarded. They wore a burqa of my mother’s style while in Bara Banki.

 
 
It was considered improper even for Hindu ladies of certain classes to be seen in public with their hair and faces uncovered, particularly the married women.
 
 
They probably wore the same in Lucknow too, on their outings with other students, no doubt always under the supervision of a lady teacher or two. My eldest sister gave up the burqa after she got married, though she always put it on when she came to Bara Banki during our father’s life. She acted as the wife of a certain individual when she was away from Bara Banki, but behaved as befitted the daughter of a particular family when she returned home.

In our extended family, however, there were several cousins of my mother who never wore a burqa, and two had worn western clothes when they were at a convent school.There were also a few families in Bara Banki even then in which the younger women never wore burqas and only half-wrapped themselves in a sheet when they walked to some place in the neighborhood; they otherwise dressed and behaved just like my sisters.

I should not neglect to mention that in those days -- I’m talking about the Forties -- it was considered improper even for Hindu ladies of certain classes to be seen in public with their hair and faces uncovered, particularly the married women. They never wore a burqa -- that was for Muslims alone. Instead, they used a shawl, a plain white sheet, or the pallo of their saris to cover what was not for strangers to see. They too lived in houses that had separate women’s quarters. Their daughters traveled to school daily in a covered wagon that was pushed by two men, just like their Muslim counterparts.

 
 
Purdah in Bara Banki was not defined by some religious code, it existed as dictated by local practices and sensibilities. And it always seemed open to change.
 
 
(The school was exclusively for girls and had a very high wall surrounding it.)

Another noticeable difference between Hindu and Muslim ladies of the same middle class was that the former did not hesitate to use a tonga. They sat on the back bench of the horse-drawn vehicle where their sari-wrapped lower bodies were visible to all. Muslim ladies, on the other hand, preferred the other horse-drawn vehicle, ekka -- where they could huddle on its high seat wrapped in their burqas or even have the whole seat enclosed with a sheet. My sisters, I well remember, hated to travel in an ekka, and did so only under duress in Bara Banki; in Lucknow, they too used a tonga.

Needless to say, the women who ‘served’ in our homes in some capacity -- as live-in servants or traditional retainers -- and the women of the poorer classes all over the city went about their hard tasks without any kind of purdah. On the way to my school I’d walk through a small cluster of homes where some Muslim weavers lived. Their women went about their daily chores in ordinary clothes, even when working under the trees by the roadside. Their men were believed by most to be more devoutly Muslim than many -- the British had called them ‘the bigoted julahas’ -- but for untold generations the same devout men had enforced no purdah restrictions on their women. They could not afford to in the face of the reality of their lives.

 
 
Decisions were made by individuals and families. No religious arbiter appointed himself to the task. There was no general uproar against the changes either, only a resigned groan here and there.
 
 
Only the young married women in their households kept their faces lowered and partially covered with the hem of their dupattas exactly as did their sari-clad Hindu counterparts in that neighbourhood.

In other words, when and where I was growing up the word ‘purdah’ had many different meanings. It described a range of habits, and not just a piece of cloth. The defining emphasis always was on a modesty of behaviour which included a showing of respect for our ‘elders’. Purdah in Bara Banki was not defined by some religious code, it existed as dictated by local practices and sensibilities. And it always seemed open to change.

***

After the events of 1947, the changes became more rapid. More and more Muslim women gave up the burqa and appeared in ordinary clothes, particularly in saris, in public spaces. One still saw burqa-covered ladies in Bara Banki and Lucknow, but they were less likely to be encountered in the fashionable business areas of the latter. The wagon that carried middle-class girls to their school in Bara Banki first lost its curtains, then it was itself abandoned. The girls went to school on foot, or in cycle-rickshaws. And if someone had asked me to show them a doli I could have done so only by taking them to the civil hospital where a couple were still used to fetch patients too weak to travel any other way.

One no longer saw curtained cars and covered ekkas.

 
 
My first encounter with the head cover that is now referred to as the hijab was when I moved to Chicago in 1961, where there was a burgeoning community of Black Muslims.
 
 
People moved in cycle-rickshaws. The women of my mother’s generation retained their burqas, but in my younger sisters’ generation there were hardly any takers.And those who did wear a burqa left their faces exposed. Modernity had met religious requirement, one could say, and found it agreeable. As these changes continued, decisions were made by individuals and families. No religious arbiter appointed himself to the task. There was no general uproar against the changes either, only a resigned groan here and there.

***

My first encounter with the head cover that is now referred to as the hijab was when I moved to Chicago in 1961, where there was a burgeoning community of Black Muslims. Their leader, the Honourable Elijah Mohammed, lived in our neighborhood, Hyde Park-Kenwood, and one of their mosque-schools was only a few blocks away from our apartment. Their women were not seen in public spaces without a head-covering. Dressed in flowing robes and showing only their faces, they stood out everywhere. At first, though, they didn’t look to me much different from some of the nuns I had come across in India and the United States. If anything, the headgears of these Muslim women were less odd than what I had seen on some nuns.

As I happened upon these women on my trips to the neighborhood shopping areas, what I particularly noticed was the response they drew from the people around them -- an almost palpable mix of curiosity and respect.

 
 
Rage at the perpetrators of this horrific crime, shame at their being my co-religionists, and a chilling fear of what to expect in repercussion as a Muslim living in the United States.
 
 
People tended to stare after them, but they also behaved more civilly in their close proximity. That response was most noticeable in the all-Black areas such as the shopping stretches of 47th and 63rd streets. Foul language and boorish behavior seemed to stop as these women walked by. It could have been due mainly to a fear of their men -- no one on the street wished to ‘mess’ with them -- but I could feel that the people also had respect for these women’s sense of modesty and the proud way they bore themselves.

Many years later, the hijab began to appear on the campus of the University of Chicago where I worked. First there was just one girl, then there were many, and soon scarved heads became so common on the campus that one stopped noticing them. Some of these Muslim co-eds took courses with me. My experience with them was in no way unusual. To be honest, I was not a little surprised. I too had had some silly notion of these girls being collectively different from other students. Obviously, that was not the case. Each was different or same in the same way as any non-Muslim student. Not all Muslim girls wore a hijab, of course. Needless to say, the two cohorts intermingled both among themselves and with other students.

***

It was an incredibly clear September morning in Chicago as it was in New York when what was unimaginable until then happened.

 
 
I was convinced that every person I encountered was giving me a look filled with suspicion and contempt. I kept my eyes down and kept walking, slowly and irresolutely...
 
 
As usual I had turned on the radio while I made my breakfast, and was only half-listening when it was reported that a plane had crashed into one of the towers of the World Trade Center. It must have been a small plane, I thought, piloted by some idiot trying to show off. Then a few minutes later I heard them say that a second plane had also crashed. I rushed to the TV. and turned it on.

The image remains fixed in my mind.

A brilliantly blue sky; two starkly silhouetted towers rising high above everything around them; and two billowing clouds of smoke. Then images began to change while being shown again and again.The towers imploded then re-appeared; the two planes crashed, then re-appeared to crash again, endlessly.

News from Washington and Pennsylvania came in. Commentators and reporters kept talking, never seeming to take a break. Like millions across the world, I too sat numb and bewildered. As the day passed, the numbness increased almost to paralysis. And the bewilderment turned into something I had never felt before: a disorienting mix of rage and shame and fear.Rage at the perpetrators of this horrific crime, shame at their being my co-religionists, and a chilling fear of what to expect in repercussion as a Muslim living in the United States.

I’m sure I was not the only one who felt that way then. I remained glued to the TV. till very late and even then it was very hard to fall asleep that night.

The next morning the ice in my belly had not melted.

 
 
My curiosity was filled with anxiety. What would a hijab-wearing girl say on this occasion? What could she say? And what if she said something wrong? I almost wished she weren’t there.
 
 
I went and stood on my balcony and saw some people walk by on the sidewalk below. I watched a neighbour go to his car and drive off. I didn’t call out a greeting to him. I was fearful of how he could have looked at me. I was scared to go down and be with other people, to speak to them and be spoken to. I had not exchanged a word with another human being for almost thirty-six hours. No one had called the day before, nor had I called anyone. I had heard only the somber voices on TV. or my own mutterings.

As the morning hours passed I was getting desperate. I had to do something, otherwise I felt I would never be able to do anything. I had lived in the United States since 1957, and had just completed forty years of teaching, taking early retirement to spend more time with my mother in India. I had spent almost twice as many years here as in India. I had taken part in the anti-Vietnam War marches in Chicago and joined other assemblies, on campus and outside, concerned with civil rights here and abroad.

In 1968, when I had published something in support of the student protestors on our campus and against the administration’s efforts to punish them, some idiot had phoned to tell me that he had been stalking me and would soon get me. In 1979 (or was it 1980?), when Americans were hostages in Iran, a man had shouted obscenities and threw a couple of beer cans at me -- not empties, mind you -- as he drove parallel to me for several terrifying minutes on the Lake Shore Drive.

These incidents had little effect on me.

 
 
Unlike me, that frail young person had found within herself the strength to do what she thought was right in the particular moment. She had also resolutely held on to what was necessary to her as a permanent value.
 
 
But today was so very different. I had been up since dawn having barely slept for an hour or two. I had to force myself to eat a little breakfast. The TV. was on again. but I couldn’t even watch it any more. I knew I had to go out, if not now then the following day, or the day after. But I was scared to face the world, scared of what it could possibly do to me.

Finally, close to noon, when I was not likely to run into any of my close neighbours, I went downstairs. Out on the ever-so-familiar sidewalk, I felt awkward and nervous. Luckily I didn’t run into anyone I knew as I walked towards the campus through habit. I was convinced that every person I encountered was giving me a look filled with suspicion and contempt. I kept my eyes down and kept walking, slowly and irresolutely, unlike my usual way, all the time struggling to resist an urge to turn around and go home.

Soon enough, though without intending to, I found myself on the campus. The summer session had ended and the university was fully closed except for the administrative offices. As I reached the main quadrangle I saw a small crowd forming in its center, and discovered that a memorial service was to be held soon, involving the various religious groups on our campus. I decided to stick around.

Soon there was a crowd of about two hundred people.There were a few familiar faces in it, but they were at a distance, and I chose to keep my eyes away from them. The meeting was formally opened by the president of the university. He and the dozen or so speakers stood in a circle on a platform surrounded by the crowd. Most of the speakers were men representing various Christian groups; there were also two rabbis and two young students, one representing the Hindu community on the campus and the other the Muslim.

The moment I became aware of the latter I couldn’t keep my eyes away from her for long.As I listened to the various prayerful speeches, my eyes went back to her slight figure again and again. I was most curious to hear what that girl had to say. Not so much because she was a Muslim, and thus somehow would be speaking for me, but because she was wearing a hijab. My curiosity was filled with anxiety. What would a hijab-wearing girl say on this occasion? What could she say? And what if she said something wrong? I almost wished she weren’t there.

Finally it was her turn. She stepped forward, a slip of a girl, wearing standard issue jeans and tunic of a dusty shade, her lowered face framed by the hijab that covered her hair and shoulders. She was visibly nervous, and her voice was barely audible to me as she proceeded to recite from memory the opening short verse from the Qur’an. Next she read out an English translation from the slip of paper she had been clutching in a fist all the time. Then she stepped back and joined the previous speakers. And that was that.

How trite, I thought patronizingly. What she had done was what most Muslims all over the world do when they fall short of appropriate words of prayer at any occasion. She had recited what could be called the Muslim equivalent of the Lord’s Prayer, a Christian staple for similar purposes. In Ahmed Ali’s translation the prayer reads as follows:

"All praise be to Allah,
"Lord of all the worlds,
"Most beneficent, ever-merciful,
"King of the Day of Judgement.
"You alone we worship, and to You
"alone turn for help.
"Guide us (O Lord) to the path that is straight,
"The path of those You have blessed,
"Not of those who have earned Your anger,
"nor those who have gone astray."

(Al-Qur’an: A Contemporary Translation)

What sense, I wondered, could these words have made to the gathered people even if they had been able to hear her? I wished she had shown more imagination and found more obviously consoling words. Something like the passage from the Upanishads that the Hindu girl preceding her had read. Soon the crowd began to disperse and I too turned around and started walking home.

Then gradually an unexpected significance of what I had just witnessed began to dawn upon me. There I had been a couple of hours earlier, a man thrice as old as this girl but fearful to step out of my apartment because I thought I looked like a Muslim, and there was she, confidently wearing her hijab as if her skin and her features did not already mark her as a possible target of some racist’s attack.

It dawned on me that she had succeeded where I, more mature and wiser in my own sight, had failed. She had found the courage and the wisdom not to buy into the collective guilt which only too many too soon began to heap upon all Muslims. She was a fighter. Unlike me, that frail young person had found within herself the strength to do what she thought was right in the particular moment. She had also resolutely held on to what was necessary to her as a permanent value.

I imagined she had driven in from some suburb, or perhaps taken a train from the north side, to take part in the memorial service.On the way, people must have stared at her. Some of them could have exchanged apprehensive glances, while some others might have whispered to each other nastily about her. But, I imagined, she had looked straight ahead, holding her ‘hijab-ed’ head high.

As I climbed the long stairs to my apartment I noticed that my steps did not feel as heavy as they had a few hours earlier going down. ‘Thank you, little sister, for being so true to yourself’ -- I didn’t say it then, but I should say it now.

***

I began this essay when I read about the decision by the French government to ban the use of hijab by Muslim girls in French public schools. Only a day or two were left before the schools opened and the ban went into effect. Meanwhile, I learn, a group of militants in Iraq have kidnapped two French journalists hostage, and threatened to kill them unless the French law, which goes into effect today, is repealed.

The French President summoned a commission to suggest ways to improve the lives of the ghettoized Muslim immigrants in France. The commission presented a dozen or so suggestions, both economic and social in nature, for immediate action. Out of that list, President Chirac chose to put into effect only one: no religious symbols will be allowed in public schools. Not wearing a hijab, Chirac probably thinks, will improve the lot of the Muslim girls living in ghettoes and bring them closer to the ideal of a modern French woman.

In Iraq, some self-declared Warriors of Islam, utterly heedless to the plight of Iraqi women and children around them, decided to defend the right of some French schoolgirls to wear a hijab by taking as hostage two innocent Frenchmen.

Not too long ago the American administration invoked the plight of Afghan women under the Taliban to justify its military actions. The Taliban are now gone and the warlords, back in power, treat Afghan women not much differently. But now one does not hear from Washington about the women’s plight.

Such was the case in the Eighties too when Gen. Ziaul Haq ordained draconian laws against Pakistani women in, calling it Islamisation. But Washington needed the General for its Cold War. It wished to destroy the communists and socialists in Kabul, who by far had done the most for the benefit of Afghan women, and make Afghanistan the Soviet Union’s ‘Vietnam’. And so President Reagan launched his ‘jihad’ with the help Pakistan’s Military Intelligence and Afghan warlords, criminally oblivious to the consequences it would have for the women and children of Afghanistan.

One does not hear about Afghan women now from Washington, nor about the Iraqi women, who had been doing very well in terms of health, education and professionalism, before the earlier sanctions and the recent war. Needless to say, while the lives of Saudi women are of no concern to the mandarins in Washington -- not a peep was heard when 15 Saudi girls died in a fire in 2002 only because the Saudi religious police did not let them come out bare-headed -- they seldom fail to mention Iranian women when expanding upon the ‘evils’ of the next country they just might target.

It seems that championing the cause of Muslim women has become as popular a refuge of a scoundrel as patriotism was once said to be -- of course, it is always he who decides what that cause consists of.


C. M. Naim is Professor. Emeritus, South Asian Languages & Civilizations, University of Chicago

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Oct 27, 2006 12:00 AM
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Dear Mr. Naim,

Reading your article, I found that it is interesting how people perceive same things in a different manner.

You were in US at the time of 9/11 and I was also there. And just like you I also undergo all the fears and anxities. However, your article implies that you found courage in that girl's Quran verses recitation while wearing her hijab.

I was in college at that time and my university also organized similar event for mourning of those who died at WTC. And again there, people for all faiths in their national dress or whatever they preferred to wear, came ahead and spoke their heart or speeches.

However, what gave me courage and confidence at that time was not their words, dresses, religion, color or backgrounds, but the role of US Government and local college authority that ensured that people with such diverse backgrounds could come ahead and still remain unharmed. Law and Order was in perfect shape and that ensured no ontoward thing happens.

Can you imagine if a similar incident had happened in our sub-continent, in India, Pakistan or Bangladesh. Do you think, still the people would have same guts to come forward. How many Muslim girls came out with such statements during Gujrat riots, or for that matter how many Christians or Jews (if any left) could come out in Pakistan when Pearl was murdered.

I believe that is the spirit of US people and US authorities that we should salute and draw insperation from, but unfortunately you criticized the very Government who gave you the right to stand in Chicago and flaunt you religion, color and face without fear or prejudice.

amar
michigan, USA
Oct 24, 2006 12:00 AM
22
Mr Naim
let me get this straight , Saudi Police not rescueing young girls from fire because they were bare headed and Plight of Iranian women (Page 6 of the article)are both US's fault because 'mandarins' in Washing dont care??
How come no Muslim cleric issued a fatwa to condemn Saudi,Iranians?
Typical Mulsim behaviour It is always others fault,conspiracy agianst ummah

KK
Baltimore, USA
Oct 24, 2006 12:00 AM
21
>>>Saudi Police not rescueing young girls from fire because they were bare headed and Plight of Iranian women (Page 6 of the article)are both US's fault because 'mandarins' in Washing dont care??

Actually, I didn't at all see C. M. Naim's article as "It is always others fault,conspiracy agianst ummah".

He points to the hypocrisy of both the fanatical Muslims and American foreign policy. He's right that the US on the one hand says its enemy is "Islamofascism" and then, on the other hand, supports the motherlode of Islamofascism - Saudi Arabia - as its lifeline (and pipeline) in the Middle East.

He is equally critical of the hypocrisy of the Iraqi group, who, oblivious to the situation of Iraqi women around them , decided that Muslim women in France who wanted to wear the hijab, were a bigger priority.

So, I think he's being quite even handed, and you're the one being "typical" to assume something cliched.
Sundari
Chennai, India
Oct 24, 2006 12:00 AM
20
>>>Saudi Police not rescueing young girls from fire because they were bare headed and Plight of Iranian women (Page 6 of the article)are both US's fault because 'mandarins' in Washing dont care??

Actually, I didn't at all see C. M. Naim's article as "It is always others fault,conspiracy agianst ummah".

He points to the hypocrisy of both the fanatical Muslims and American foreign policy. He's right that the US on the one hand says its enemy is "Islamofascism" and then, on the other hand, supports the motherlode of Islamofascism - Saudi Arabia - as its lifeline (and pipeline) in the Middle East.

He is equally critical of the hypocrisy of the Iraqi group, who, oblivious to the situation of Iraqi women around them , decided that Muslim women in France who wanted to wear the hijab, were a bigger priority.

So, I think he's being quite even handed, and you're the one being "typical" to assume something cliched.
Sundari
Chennai, India
Oct 24, 2006 12:00 AM
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PRESS RELEASE
21-10-06
All India Muslim Women’s personal Law Board has termed
the stand of Mr. Kamal Farouqee of Muslim Personal Law
Board on the fate of rape victim Imrana highly
deplorable as unjust, unfair, insensitive and brutal.
In a press release issued here today Broad’s Founder
Secretary general Ms. Parveen Abdi said that Kamal
Farougee’s view that since Imrana has been raped by
her father in-law now she can no longer live with her
husband as his wife is devoid of the principal of
natural justice where only the perpetrator of a crime
is punished and not the victim. The very fact being
established that Imrana was raped by her father in-law
determines her status of a victim who needs to be
compensated and sympathized with and not condemned and
punished for being a victim of a crime. Kamal
Farooqee’s view on Imrana is based on ill informed,
misconceived and gender biased interpretation of
Shariat law where a women victim of a crime is
punished. Parveen Abdi wondered why Mr. Farooqee has
not suggested the stoning to death of Imrana’s father
in –law, the punishment for adultery and rape? Imrana
needs sympathy and support from civil society for her
rehabilitation and restoration to normal life with her
husband and five children. Antiquated and savaged
interpretation of Shariat brings only bad name to
Islamic law and poses its regressive and anti-women
orientation which in reality is not the case. Shariat
is based on justice, gender justice and fairness added
Parveen Abdi.
PARVEEN ABDI
Founder Secretary General
ALL INDIA MUSLIM WOMENS PERSONAL LAW BOARD
16, Maqbara Golaganj,
Lucknow-226018
Phone: 9839226474 [abdi_parveen@yahoo.co.in]


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Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
Oct 23, 2006 12:00 AM
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The definition of modesty keeps on changing from place to place and from time to time.
Even now different countries have different standards for judging the modesty.

Islam is the oonly religion which gave women the rights they deserved more than 1400 yrs ago and also the definition of modesty according to Islam has been constant.

For example even hindus in india around 4-5 decades bak would have considered a girl wearing skirt as immodest. But now due to aping the western culture their definition of modesty has changed.
Not more than a century back women could not own a property in Europe.
Islam had given the economic rights to women more than 14 centuries ago.
Now Islam is the religion which has been chosen by the creator and he knows best what is good for us. We cant judge our modesty with the ever changing standards of the west.
In islam the definition of modesty remains the same and does not change with time - because it is the definition of our creator and he has the wisdom to know whether it is beneficial or not.

US considered the most civilized society and the place where women are considered to be most liberated in the world has more than 1 lac rapes per year which are reported & according to estimates only around 15 percent of rapes are reported.
The result speaks for itself - Women are being made into objects of sex & pleasure in the name of moderation and hijab is the answer to the current state of women.
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Ranchi, India
Oct 23, 2006 12:00 AM
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You cant judge and compare the status islam has given to the women with the ever changing standards of the west.

It's the west which is setting the rules of the game and want muslims to play according to that rule.

Also their own definition has not been constant over the past centuries.

Not more than a couple of centuries back muslim women had rights which their western counterparts could only dream of.

Now they seem to have more rights than muslim women - but it only seems so due to the rosy picture portrayed in the press (u can hear statements like women can do anything that a man can & that they are working shoulder to shoulder with men in all fields) - in actuality the result is for all to see.

What happened to many women police officers in Iraq during gulf war in 1991 ?? Many of them got raped and became pregnant.
Now india has also started taking women army officers - its only a matter of time before such things can be heard here also.


More than 1 lac rapes happen in US every year (which is reported) - why is it so in the so called most civilized society in the world ??

If a robber comes into a house will a male go to tackle him or will he send his wife saying that men & women are equal ??
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Ranchi, India
Oct 23, 2006 12:00 AM
16
Gurgaon Gurgler writes:

>>Why this obsession with rape.

May be Chaddis like you can shed some light.


http://bostonreview.net/BR29.3/nussbaum.html

Old Mac
Wonderville, United States
Oct 23, 2006 12:00 AM
15
I think if people in the east feel they have the right to brand western culture as immodest and obscene, then westerners also have the right to dislike veil and caste-system. It is a matter of perception that one culture has for another. Inter-cultural interaction is useful for removing a lot of this stereotyped thinking, but cannot remove it totally, because there are definite differences between cultures.

If a westerner goes to live in Saudi Arabia, he/she will have to adjust with the local laws and sensitivities. In the same way, if a hindu or muslim goes to live and work in US, he/she will also have to consider the local culture and accomodate it. You can't keep thinking of westerners as impure for eating beaf of pork, and still live in their midst, and enjoying the fruits of their economies. If someone is intent on observing his own culture very fastidiously, and has a constant dislike for western culture, then he/she, in my opinion, should not leave his homeland to come and work in a foreign country.
kunal
denver, usa
Oct 21, 2006 12:00 AM
14
Fine, are you prepared to be attacked by a Pack Of Wolves?
Joseph
Karachi, Pakistan
Oct 21, 2006 12:00 AM
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If the average non-Muslim were asked to name one thing about Islam, it could well be that women are required by Islamic Law to wear a veil and cover their faces in public. In fact, that is a gross simplification of a complex topic.

The Quran enjoins both men and women to dress modestly, and also speaks of covering women's adornments from outsiders of the family. All four of the major schools of Islamic law developed a code where women were expected to cover their bodies from the ankles to the neck and the arms above the elbow. But the veil itself, particularly a veil which covers the face, is much more controversial.

Many Islamic fundamentalist movements believe their religion prescribes the covering of women's faces - and they are in the headlines in one country or another almost very week for punishing women who fail to wear what they consider to be proper Islamic dress. But that is largely a political statement.

Traditional dress codes in fact vary sharply in different Muslim societies. In Iran, the black chador is traditional among wide sectors of society but among the bedouin of the Arabian peninsular, women wear scarves that cover their hair but leave their faces open - just like most of their men. The same is also true in Muslim areas of south-east Asia.

As political Islam is at least partly based on the 'Coca-Cola' invasion that followed the withdrawal of European colonial domination, the veil becomes a key part of the ideology. But it's important to recognise that Islam itself merely prescribes modesty rather than actually forcing the wearing of a particular garment. Some scholars, for example, suggest that as modesty means not drawing unnecessary attention to oneself, a woman wearing baggy jeans, a jumper and an unobtrusive scarf in a Western country could be more in accordance with the spirit of Islamic law than another woman who wore the full costume of an alien culture.


http://www.islamfortoday.com/taleban3.htm

fine
delhi, India
Oct 21, 2006 12:00 AM
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An op-ed article in the New York Times :


http://tinyurl.com/ylpbcq
Ghulam Y Faruki
New York, United States
Sep 09, 2004 12:00 AM
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While moslem intellectuals are eager to tell the non-islamic world that all moslems are not terrorist-jihadis, they do not want to tell their fellow-moslems, espcially the millionaires of saudi arabia not reward families of suicidal terrorists and not to finance fundamentalist exclusive education in the madarsas of the Indian subcontinent. While free-feeding of children in such schools is very good, they should convett them into nonexclusive schools for children of all religions, where arts and science and social humanism are taught, exclusive islam being replaced by general morality based on all religions, with English language along with urdu and the mother-tongue of each student. If this is done, islamic terrorism in the world will go down exponentially, over the years.
v.seshadri
chennai, india
Sep 09, 2004 12:00 AM
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Reminds me of a verse written by a famous poet :
KAB AAYEGI BEDAAG SABZ KI BAHAAR
KHOON KE DHABBE DHULENGE KITNI BARSAATON KE BAAD.
Ashok Mathur
Delhi, India
Sep 09, 2004 12:00 AM
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I do not believe that Islam is reformable.Think of the 5 daily prayers, the friday congregation, the month of fasting, the madrassahs , and a completely different lifestyle from the rest of the civilised world.After such indoctrination no wonder most muslims are unsuitable for liveing in non muslim societies.This is borne out from the European experience where muslims and nonmuslims live apart,even after several generations.

The Saudi's have a record of only funding mosques, madrassahs and jehad.Naipaul has again
spoken of this recently. Incidentally he is one of most hated by the secularist camp in India.

The few Muslim intellectuals we have are shadowy characters, whose only role has been to try and protect themselves from the anger of non muslims. Now and then after a particularly horrific incident one or two - just one or two-will come up and say the usual bilge. Islam is a peaceful religion, Islam believes in tolerance and enlightenment. The rest remain quiet and many non muslims are squeamish and cowardly not to confront them, for their hypocracy. The Indian secularists and the media are the worst of all.For votes and a few kababs and drinks they have sold themselves .

Finally the muslims will not change, and neither Islam. Nor the Indian apologists for Islam , but
the rest of the world will.The west is powerful,
and when the cup of anger overflows one can expect that some of the countries with terrorist
nests will come in for a horrific punishment.

lalit bagai
kalundborg, danmark
Sep 03, 2004 12:00 AM
8
A beautiful composition!
gorgon
Hawaii, USA
Sep 03, 2004 12:00 AM
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This is a beautiful article. Prof. Naim's dispassionate analysis and observations on Hijab made an interesting reading. Whether one likes his views or not, we should appreciate the honesty in his statements that came from his heart.
R. Srivatsan
Newport News, USA
Sep 03, 2004 12:00 AM
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That last section ruined it for me, though. The piece should've ended with his realisation of what the girl did. Maybe mention the context, the French action, in a footnote.

The last section insinuates that Muslim women's issues are always highlighted for selfish ends or as token gestures, and brackets the French govt decision amongst such cynical moves. I disagree with that, and unfortunately, that position colours the entire article.
chandra
Portland, US
Sep 03, 2004 12:00 AM
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This is a well-written piece and the last paragraph is one of the key points of the write-up. It sounds so preposterous that Iraqi terrorsists are bothered about the right of French Muslim women to wear hijab in schools--as preposterous as the Bush regime's concern for democracy and freedom for the Iraqis!
Zafar H. Anjum
New Delhi, India
Sep 03, 2004 12:00 AM
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Ah. Another hapless Muslim who felt vicitmized by his non-Muslim compatriots when a handful of Muslims drove a couple of planes into highrises killing 3000 non-Muslims. However, he deserves to be congratulated for managing to write -- despite his searing angst at vicitmization -- six-pages of essay without once using the word "Islamophobia". Astonishing feat.

His take on modern-day scoundrels is definitely novel, albeit wrong. Not the cause of Muslim women, but *secularism*, is the last refuge of the scoundrel. Even Samuel Johnson would admire this apt characterization of mine of modern Indian reality. Look at the composition of some of our ministries, for example, and wonder why they have to be what they are; why people charged of crimes like raping minor girls have to figure in there. The answer is simple: India's secular fabric and yarn need to be zealously protected. That is why.
Raghu Reddy
Bangalore, India
Sep 03, 2004 12:00 AM
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1. I was enthralled for the first 5 pages. The last page started getting shaky. In the end this article turned into a bash the US affair.

2. Indian Secularism <> French Secularism. Indian Secularism has moved away from its hindu roots “respect for all religions” to a communalized multi-theocracy system. The term Secularism in France “laicite" is separation from the church & state. It underpinned the French Revolution, which among other things sought to end the domination of the Roman Catholic Church over the state. The purpose is not economic but in adherence to state principles. So the comment “Chirac probably thinks, will improve the lot of the Muslim girls living in ghettoes and bring them closer to the ideal of a modern French woman.” is crap.

3. Muslim are not the only ones affected by the law. The law affects Sikhs wearing turbans, Jews wearing skull caps & Christians wearing large crosses.

4. Apart from French state principles, there is also the issue of assimilation. France is about 8-10 % Muslim (5 to 6 million muslims). Muslims are disproportionately poor, clustered in housing projects, mostly unemployed or in jail. Young men of Arab descent (beurs, as they're called) have been responsible for hundreds of attacks on Jews and Jewish institutions in France over the last three years. The sociologist Emmanuel Brenner assembled a 200-page book, "The Lost Territories of the Republic,'' making an inventory of unruly incidents in the classroom – Muslim kids laughing through lectures on the Holocaust, teachers subjected to ethnic taunts, humiliation of girls. Jacques Chirac has been profoundly affected by this book.

5. A 20-member commission led by a politician / immigration expert, Bernard Stasi, was formed and after five months of studying ways of reconciling religious belief and public conduct, the Stasi commission recommended banning "conspicuous" religious symbols but left room for discreet symbols. It urged that Muslim chaplains be appointed for prisons and that a national school of Islamic studies be established. It suggested making Yom Kippur and Id al-Adha, the Muslim feast of Abraham's sacrifice, national holidays.

6. This veil business is a problem not just in France but across other countries in Europe, in secular (Turkey), Russia, and even faraway Singapore where veils have been banned so as to (a) avoid discrimination and (b) foster assimilation esp. between the Chinese & Malays .

7. If a non-muslim were to wear a mini-skirt to school in Iran … should that be permitted. I believe that all women have to wear a veil in Iran. If Islamic countries can restrict or permit certain dresses in public or in institutions, don’t other countries have the right to follow certain rules of their own. Like Sheik Chilli, Muslims chop off the branch on which they are sitting … and then blame others when the fall and break their bones. Why is ghettoisation a problem for Muslims across the world. Blaming the RSS or the Jews or the USA will not help. Why is it not possible for Muslims to fit into ANY society ? From Mindanao, Phillipines to the USA, the Muslim issues are the same the actors differ. The “VICTIMS” are the same, the “VILLIANS” differ.

8. The Hijab or rather the Burqah has become a metaphor of sorts. Needles to say even Mr Naim is wearing a burqha as are almost all muslims … male or female. Mr. Naims burqha is somewhat diaphanous. For most others it is opaque.

Request to Outlook : Could we please have a French Secularist write about this issue. Thanx.
Dharmayudh Singh
Philadelphia, USA
Sep 03, 2004 12:00 AM
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On a lighter note, please check this out - its hilarious...

http://www.sacredcowburgers.co m/side_orders/showpics.cgi?future_shock

Dharmayudh Singh
Philadelphia, USA
Sep 03, 2004 12:00 AM
1
Dharamyudh
___________

Well written.

However I am sure there will be lots and lots
of Indian secularists who will term you fascist,
unintelligent etc.

Why, ?? Because the Indian secularist is immune to reason.

lalit bagai
kalundborg, danmark
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