What If...
What If Gandhi Had Lived On?
The Indian state might have become less a master and more a servant of the Indian people and the hierarchies in the society might have become less steep.
We know that there was a perfection to Gandhi's death. On January 30, 1948, within months of independence, he was gunned down as he walked to pray, his hands folded in a greeting to his assassin. On his lips as he fell was his favourite name for God, Ram. Surrounding him were hundreds who loved him and had joined him for the daily prayer-meeting.

We know too that the killing discredited the doctrine of hate that had gathered new strength following the carnage in West and East Punjab in August-September '47.

 
 
Gandhi said the Congress should dissolve itself as a political party and flower into an association for empowering the people.
 
 
Across the subcontinent Hindu and Muslim extremism suffered a severe blow.

Yet though Providence used the death designed by his killers to frustrate their goals and to advance those of Gandhi, a Gandhi living in the late '40s and '50s would have helped (a) to heal India-Pak relations and (b) to correct the sarkar-janata equation in India and in doing so give the Congress a role very different from what was seen after independence.

Right from August 1947, Gandhi had wanted to visit Pakistan. On September 23, he said, "I want to go to Lahore...I want to go to Rawalpindi." He wrote about this wish to Jinnah, the Pakistan governor general who continued to be the president of the Muslim League.

Carrying messages from Gandhi to Jinnah and back, Suhrawardy, the former premier of Bengal, shuttled between Delhi and Karachi, the Pak capital at the time. Three Parsis, the Bombay businessman Jehangir Patel, nature-cure doctor from Poona Dinshaw Mehta and Karachi's khadi-wearing mayor, Jamshed Mehta, also travelled between Delhi and Karachi to prepare Gandhi's visit to Pakistan. On January 27, it was agreed that Gandhi would arrive in Pakistan on February 8 or 9. To make things easier for the hosts, Gandhi dropped his objection to being protected in Pakistan by armed Pak police. Jinnah had said this was essential.

What he would say in Pakistan was spelt out by Gandhi and his emissaries: the Pak government should protect minorities and ask those who had fled to India to return to their homes. "I know what is happening to the minorities in the Punjab, in Sind and in the Frontier province," Gandhi had written to Suhrawardy. To India and Indians, he was already giving a similar message.

Given Jinnah's emphatic rejection of the terms Gandhi had offered during their lengthy talks in September 1944, is there any basis for thinking that a Gandhi visit to Pakistan in February 1948 would have yielded results? There is, for the February 1948 visit would have come right after Gandhi's remarkable fast from January 13 to 18. Undertaken for the rights of minorities in the two countries, this fast had touched many in Pakistan, not least because on Gandhi's urging the Indian government had allowed Pakistan to have its agreed share, worth Rs 55 crore, of the money owed (and paid) by the departing British to India as a whole.

If Pakistani goodwill was won by the fast, which also ended the economic boycott of Delhi's Muslims and restored the annual fair at the mazaar of Khwaja Qutbuddin, Jinnah personally had reason to be more open than before to Gandhi. For in April 1947, in a bid to preserve a united India, Gandhi had suggested Jinnah's name as independent India's first premier.

Because Nehru, Patel, Azad, Rajendra Prasad and Rajagopalachari had opposed Gandhi's proposal (only Khan Abdul Ghaffar Khan was in favour), the Congress never put it to Jinnah. But the latter knew that Gandhi had thought of him as India's premier.

The ground seemed ready for "an honourable settlement of all the differences between India and Pakistan"—including Kashmir. At any rate, this was Gandhi's view, expressed on January 16. He would have built on this ground, and perhaps helped alter subsequent history, had he been alive to visit Pakistan in February.

As for the government-people equation, Gandhi's response in January 1948 to a letter about corruption from an old Andhra leader, Konda Venkatappayya, indicates what he might have done. Describing himself as "old, decrepit, with a broken leg", Venkatappayya had written that Congress legislators were "making money by the use of influence" and "obstructing justice in the criminal courts".

"Too shocking for words," as Gandhi put it, Venkatappayya's letter was a factor behind Gandhi's January fast. It also sparked off Gandhi's radical proposal of January 29 that the Congress, its role fulfilled with independence, should dissolve itself as a political party and "flower into" an association for empowering the people of India. It would tackle illiteracy, ill-health, unemployment, untouchability and communal intolerance in every village in India.

In proposing this a day before he was killed, Gandhi's aim was two-fold. While Congressmen would be prevented from encashing for themselves their new-found power, the people of India would be strengthened in their equation with the state. Aware that the state of independent India retained a colonial and feudal mindset, Gandhi wanted yesterday's freedom fighters to empower the citizen; and he was confident that parties old and new, from the left to the right, would fill the vacuum created by the Congress's exit as a political body. Congressmen unable to live without politics could join another party, he said.

Just as the Jinnah proposal was never put to Jinnah, Gandhi's proposal regarding the Congress was never put to the body, even though, in Nehru's words of 1942, the post-1919 Congress was Gandhi's "creation and child". Gandhi had written the Congress constitution in 1920, designed the party's many-tiered structure from village level up to the national working committee via district and provincial units, infused purpose into the body and teamwork among its leaders, and sharpened the Congress into a fighting instrument. The truth is that the "old" man of 78 was in 1948 mentally and even physically more vigorous than many of the Congress leaders, and more willing than the rest to launch radical measures.

We do not know how Nehru, Patel and others who had dissented from Gandhi over Partition would have reacted to the proposal regarding the Congress if an alive Gandhi had pressed it. We know that Nehru and Patel had turned down Gandhi's end-1947 idea that either Jayaprakash Narayan or Narendra Dev, another leader of the Congress socialists, should take over as Congress president; the office had gone instead to Rajendra Prasad.

But we know also, from the January 1948 fast if from nothing else, that the 1947-8 Gandhi was capable of fighting for his beliefs. If he had remained alive, the Indian state might have become less a master and more a servant of the Indian people, empowering them might have become a mainstream rather than a marginal exercise, and the hierarchies that continue to mark India's society and polity might have become less steep.


Rajmohan Gandhi, grandson of the Mahatma, is the author of The Good Boatman: A Portrait of Gandhi and Understanding the Muslim Mind.


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Oct 05, 2004 12:00 AM
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Had Gandhi gone to Pakistan Kashmir problem would have defenitely been solved.He would have agreed to give kashmir to pakistan along with Himachal pradesh.Then where is the problem?All outstanding problems between India and pakistan would have been solved.For indus river sharing problem,his solution would have been to give all 5 rivers to pakistan along with ganges and godhavari.However we have many such Gandhis living with us today.Maulana mulayam singh yadav requested center to give 2000 crore as aid to pakistan when it was suffering from economic ruin.Mahathma lalooji is very popular in pakistan with his mannerisms.Matha Arundthathi roy is a very famous writer in pakistan and middle east.They are lobbying to get her a nobel prize.Mahathma gudeep nayyar and mahathma MJ Akbar too are regularly criticizing new delhi in Pakistani daily Dawn.So gandhi lives among us.His heritage still lives among us.
sampathkumar
chennai, India
Oct 04, 2004 12:00 AM
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Thank god gandhi was not alive when i was born and even today.If he were;all of us indian slaves would have been washing dirty underwears of musharraf the boss and his wife.

Coming to Vajpayee;he is a pervert of the first order who wasted six years in power eating beef,drinking daaru and seducing sonia of all the *unts-who royally kicked him in the balls in the last election to render him impo for the rest of his life!Same case as that of ball thakare who is seducing his own daughter-in-law and in the process has lost all his esteem in the eyes of the shiv sainiks.So much for our clay feeted,but strong tooled-even in late years,leaders and role models!!
vinodbevda
birmingham, uk
Oct 04, 2004 12:00 AM
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Thank god gandhi was not alive when i was born and even today.If he were;all of us indian slaves would have been washing dirty underwears of musharraf the boss and his wife.

Coming to Vajpayee;he is a pervert of the first order who wasted six years in power eating beef,drinking daaru and seducing sonia of all the *unts-who royally kicked him in the balls in the last election to render him impo for the rest of his life!Same case as that of ball thakare who is seducing his own daughter-in-law and in the process has lost all his esteem in the eyes of the shiv sainiks.So much for our clay feeted,but strong tooled-even in late years,leaders and role models!!
vinodbevda
birmingham, uk
Oct 04, 2004 12:00 AM
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I will just add certain lines in this argument.

Indian media persons are too much engrossed about certain personalities like Gandhi, Nehru or Ambedkar. For god's sake these people are dead and dead for longtime. Look forward, look in 21st century. If you can learn from these leaders it is great. But these stupid articles like what would have happened if Gandhi would have lived on, does not do anything, does not help in anyway.

Please look forward and look into future leaders, not leaders who are dear. I implore

Abhishek
Abhishek Drolia
Raipur, India
Oct 02, 2004 12:00 AM
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Atal B Vajpayee nobler than Gandhi? Bull shit! Vajpayee is ass-hole and Gandhi is an equal ass-hole too. Both are pseudo-secularists/Liberal Hindus. Uniform civil code remained a dream even today. F**k Congress, BJP&Co, Communists and all gaandhu political parties out there. Muslim and Christian bastards are getting preferential treatment while our Sudra Hindus are being exploited. Reservations are fake and designed to protect their asses. It is high time Sudra Hindus wake up to crumble these batard leaders and their previous leaders like Gandhi, Nehru, Sardar patel, Jinnah, Annie Beasant, Ambedkar, BG Tilak, Gadse, etc.,
Phanindra M
Kerala, India
Oct 02, 2004 12:00 AM
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Hi Vikas.

You are right about your main charge, that I am enamoured by European's and European civilisation
I guess that makes me a later version of Nirad Chaudhri(without his eccentries and his talent), whom incidentally I admire.

We can debate if my views are correct. Just liveing in Denmark, and travelling around has
convinced me that I am liveing sorrounded by a culture, whose equal does not exist today.

I travell to India and stay there for 2 to 3 months. Its a mixed experience. My family and friends are great to be with, and like it is for most Indians, India is a love affair for life. However India and Indians have too many faults, and I am always pleased to return to Denmark.
And just to point out I do not visit the worst parts such as Bengal, Bihar etc.

Regarding some of the leaders I have listed, we can certainly disagree without rancour. . This list was made in the cource of a moment, and I will not insist that you agree with it. I am sure some deserve to be left out and some to be added.

The main people who I would like to keep are
Thatcher, for changeing Britain from a decadent
left wing country to a really dynamic economy..
And Blair for moderniseing labour.

President Lee of Singapore for modernising his country, and makeing it to be a well functioning
economy.

The greatest leader is Deng Xioping, the maker of modern China.

I would also propose Shri Atal Bihari Vajpayee,
a leader who transformed India in 6 years. He is a nationalist above all, and had a vision to make it into a modern state.

Many thanks for readers comments.
lalit bagai
kalundborg, danmark
Oct 02, 2004 12:00 AM
15
Very Good Article
gayathri
Chennai, India
Oct 02, 2004 12:00 AM
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If Gandhi had lived longer, India would have been in a worst sahpe than it ia today. The man was against moderenization and technological adavacement. If you read the book written by his grat grand daughter,"Gandhi's Prisoner", you will come to the conclusion that he was a not goood man. He was a "control freak". He had very twisted core values which were neither good for his own family nor for the country. And Of course this grand son of GAndhi, like any politician in India, is trying to milk misguded peoples, love for his grand father, fo some benefit to him.
shiv sawhney
orange,ct, usa
Oct 02, 2004 12:00 AM
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lalit, you forgot shree vajpayee jee, who made india a superpower single handedly.
also, i strongly object inclusion of clinton. he is known as joker throughout the world. he was having affairs. how can he be great. about rest. i have not heard of these names much. also, you fogot jiang jamein. he made china rich FYI. also, what about bush? who is fighting bravely against islam?. please be more sensible and do more research before writing.
regards.
rajyavardhan
delhi, india
Oct 02, 2004 12:00 AM
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I did not read this article. It is utterly idiotic to live and dream about a character whose time had come and passed us half a century back. He did his job and went, let us do ours. He made his decisions based on the facts then and fought his battles based on the situation then. Let's not spend our lives dreaming utopian battles and quixotic ambitions.
akshay
hyd, india
Oct 02, 2004 12:00 AM
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Lalit

Initially I found your list to be appalling – but upon deeper thought it fell into place. While I do respect many of your ideas – I have always maintained that you have an almost blind adherence to everything and anything west – and may I dare say it, anything white. Your list further strengthens my hypothesis.

I don’t know by what stretch of imagination do you include Tony Blair in your list. You also include JFK whose only claim to fame was probably his good looks, an exceptional oratorical ability and the fact that he was killed at a relatively young age. It befuddles me that you omit to include Martin Luther King Jr. from the list.

Then you have DeGaulle in the list - who was known for his muddleheaded opposition to everything US. Once, when DeGaulle was hell bent on weakening the NATO and wanted the US soldiers to leave continental Europe – the US foreign secretary famously asked – “Should we dig our dead from the coast of Normandy as well and take them back?”

Talking about Churchill – I think he is the guy who should be tried for human rights abuses in the Supreme Court in India. If that racist person of the first order had agreed to India’s freedom a few years earlier – a lot of bloodshed at the time of partition could have been averted. While Churchill was bombastically talking about freedom and rights of the free world while visiting the US – when Roosevelt asked him about India’s freedom – Churchill maintained a stony silence. (“Franklin & Winston: an Intimate Portrait of an Epic Friendship by Jon Meacham”)

So I am glad that Gandhi is not here in this list of yours – because say what you will about the man – he inspired two truly momentous revolutions in the world apart from his own country – one in South Africa and one in the US. There is a reason why Mandela and Martin Luther King followed Gandhi’s path and achieved enormous success. Of course no man can be right all the time and be infallible but you’ve got to give the man his due.
Vikas Chowdhry
Madison, USA
Oct 02, 2004 12:00 AM
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deston..let metell u some interesting facts about gandhi.
1) he once ate meat
2) he went to england to study law, leaving its motherland alone
3) he then went to south africa....why??
4) he also listen to bad jokes onece.
5) according to my research, he might not have been a hindu at all. he was infact a parsi. now friends, who are parsis? they came from iran! can we trust them? no.
so gandhi was infacted planted by britishers.
6) he was having sex with a prostitute, when his father died.

now with all these facts, please decide, my fellow countrymen. it was better he was never born
vande matram.
rajyavardhan
delhi, india
Oct 02, 2004 12:00 AM
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Dear Lalit,

History tells us that the statues of our great leadres, whom we ourselves have put on pedestals, start to corrode after some time. The thin golden veneer of heroism and greatness, generally thrust upon them by mere mortals like us, start to wear off and what comes out is not very appealing and appetising: the sheer truth that our heroes were, after all, mere human beings; and that we ourselves have put them on the pedestal to make them what they never intended to be. It was convenient for us to put them on the cross and hail them as son of god or Mahatma or whatever and when their human weakness and frailities start to unravel, what is more surprising- the fact that they were mere mortals or that WE ourselves made them heroes unnecessarily, is so difficult to accept.

Every hero comes with an expiry date- somehow we assume that they are immortal, infallible and most importantly not-human.

Gandhji was no exception.
Ekaamaadmi
Mumbai, India
Oct 02, 2004 12:00 AM
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Had Mahathma Gandhiji lived 15 more years, he would have come into direct conflict with Pandit Nehru, who wanted to take India along a modern path. Definitely Indian public would have supported Nehru, and Gandhiji would have become a pain on the neck for the our nation with his conflicting ideas about various things. Definitely a congress man would have killed him out of shere frustration, sparing great Patriot Veer Savarkar from the agony of listening to all the accusations he had to go through. And, Mr. Rajmohan Gandhi would have lived in an Ashram with his grandpa for many more years!! Good!.
R. Srivatsan
Newport News, USA
Oct 02, 2004 12:00 AM
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Let us just glance at the great leaders of the last 50 to 100 years or so.

England
________

Churchill
Thatcher
Blair

France
___________

DeGaulle

USA
_____

Franklin D Roosevelt
Kennedy
Clinton

China
__ ____
Deng

Singapore
__________

President Lee

Malaysia
_________

Mahatir Mohammed

Turkey
----------

Kamal Attaturk

I am afraid that despite the hold on his followers , Gandhiji does not match up with the
above leaders.

Gandhiji inspired the Indian masses to fight for freedom. But he had no answer to the problems of India, unless drinking goats milk and the Charkha
are the answers, rather then modernisation, new industries etc.

Gandhian policies kept India backward for a long time, and whilst giveing him due respect, let
us not live with silly illusions about his visions.

Anyway the way things are going we will have a good supply of Gandhis for the next 100 years.
lalit bagai
kalundborg, danmark
Oct 02, 2004 12:00 AM
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Dear Mr. Chote Gandhi,

Jeeez ..what a sucking thought of yours.... I'm...or rather we're happy that Gandhi was sent on his way to hell .. its kind of better late than never .. yeah it was lil bit late.. he shud have probably been given a ticket in the 1930's... so that he wouldn't have to practice his celebrated celebacy of sleeping between two girls .. damn him .. of course he needs to be respected for his sacrifices as a freedom fighter like other freedom fighters of his time. But he shouldn't have been elevated to Mahatma..and all the decision making shudn't have been left to him.... for all the wrong things he did.. his minority appeasement... his stand on khilafat.. his idea of making Jinnah as a PM(may be Jinnah wud have been better than that first member of the scking dynasty).. and partition was the only good thing and that too under pressure from his loved minority brethren ....but that too not a complete one .. i wish we got rid of all the muslims in that partition .. but it dint happen. well!.. got to live with that and hindus being as accomodating as they are .. I dont see a problem.. but our minority brothers feel persecuted as is the wont of their ilk across the world.. anyway we are in for some interesting times .... just wanna see the modern face of Islam if there's one.

Just imagine this.. Veer Savarkar gets a few decades of sentence in KALAPANI .. coz he's considered dangerous and our pyare Gandhi and Nehru chacha spend minimal time in some luxurious jails .. ah well .. the british always knew Gandhi wudn't have made an inch of difference to their stay here .. so they nurtured him .. gave him all the attention .. glorified him .. and the real freedom figters were languisihing in the toughest of jail conditions..and they eventually left because of the reverses suffered in WWII and not enough resources to preserve their colonies and due to the rise of armed conflicts all over...well done Sr. Gandhi and Nehru .. we still get to hear ur names thanks to ur legacy of congress psychophants.. may ur soul burn in hell... and may Nathuram Godse rest in peace.. Bharath Mata Ki Jai.. Jai Savarkar.. Jai Nathuram....
Vandemataram
Kiran
Kiran kumar
Hyderabad, india
Aug 22, 2004 12:00 AM
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What if Gandhi had lived on?
Answer: He would have taken some more decision using his clout that would have made him more “Mahatma” to the rest of the world, while India would have suffered in the longterm.
Sunil N. Rangaiah
Nanjangud, India
Aug 18, 2004 12:00 AM
4
Actually, its Sardar Patel who assessed RSS correctly when he banned the organisation.
Sardar also said..."Hindutva is an ideology of the mad-head". This dhrmayudh , the RSS paid man should read history( arre Quote pe chance mila , history kaise padega)
arun r
Bangalore, india
Aug 16, 2004 12:00 AM
3
Mr R Gandhi,

Please dont take it personally but ...

"NATHURAM GODSE ZINDABAD !!! MOHANDAS GANDHI MURDABAD !!!"

The partition occured because of Gandhis flower power, ... what makes you think that more flower power would have helped India ???

My only regret is that those brave souls did not knock off Nehru as well ...

The troika Gandhi-Nehru-Jinnah rank as the biggest mass murderers in world history !!!
Dharmayudh Singh
Philadelphia, USA
Aug 16, 2004 12:00 AM
2
Gandhi's philosopy was rendered irrelevent by the horrors of partition, just as Nehru's reliance on them cost us the 1962 war. Had Gandhi lived on, he would have further inflamed Hindu-Muslim tensions, while at the same time been totally powerless to do anything about it except, perhaps, fast and fast some more.

The theory of non-violence would have been rendered useless after the bloodshed of partition. Pakistan invaded Kashmir in 1948 and if Gandhi would have had his way, we would have probably lauched an ahimsa movement, and the Pakistanis, unlike the British, would have happilly masaccred most of the activists. Gandhi was a great thinker, but he was clearly becoming more of a liability to India in general and Hindus in particular.
Rohan
San Diego, CA, United States
Aug 15, 2004 12:00 AM
1
Hindus would have been completely wiped out from North India by now leading to a second partition of India. India would have become the paradise of the pseudo-secularists - Pakistan, Bangladesh and China rolled into one.
Adi
XXXXX, USA
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