essay
Mirror Crack'd
The effect of 9/11 was much the same as the cause: a morally-void, global soliloquy of power
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A fugitive Mullah Omar and an elusively mythic Osama haunt the US' year-old war against terror
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essay
Unaware of global realities, the average New Yorker confronted the tragedy intellectually disarmed
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Ayaz Amir
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The war against terror has only strengthened the despots in the region, fanning more disaffection
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'9/11 was the totality of all that US foreign policy had added up to till that day.'
It is widely argued that the September 11 terrorist attacks have changed the world dramatically, that nothing will be the same as the world enters into an "age of terror"—the title of a collection of academic essays by Yale University scholars and others, which regards the anthrax attack as even more ominous.

There is no doubt that the 9/11 atrocities were an event of historic importance, not—regrettably—because of their scale, but because of the choice of innocent victims.

 
 
The basic tenet of universality would justify ‘pre-emptive terror’ against the US by Iraq. Of course, no one accepts this.
 
 
It had been recognised for some time that with new technology, the industrial powers would probably lose their virtual monopoly of violence, retaining only an enormous preponderance. No one could have anticipated the specific way in which the expectations were fulfilled, but they were. For the first time in modern history, Europe and its offshoots were subjected, on home soil, to the kind of atrocity that they routinely have carried out elsewhere. The history should be too familiar to review, and though the West may choose to disregard it, the victims do not. The sharp break in the traditional pattern surely qualifies 9/11 as a historic event, and the repercussions are sure to be significant.

Several crucial questions arose at once: who is responsible? What are the reasons? What is the proper reaction? What are the longer-term consequences?

To begin with, it was assumed, plausibly, that the guilty parties were Osama bin Laden and his Al Qaeda network. No one knows more about them than the cia, which, together with its counterparts among US allies, recruited radical Islamists from many countries and organised them into a military and terrorist force, not to help Afghans resist Russian aggression, which would have been a legitimate objective, but for normal reasons of state, with grim consequences for Afghans after the mujahideen took control. US intelligence has surely been following the other exploits of these networks closely ever since they assassinated President Anwar Sadat of Egypt 20 years ago, and more intensively since the attempt to blow up the World Trade Center and many other targets in a highly ambitious terrorist operation in 1993.

Nevertheless, despite what must be the most intensive international intelligence investigation in history, evidence about the perpetrators of 9/11 has been hard to find. Eight months after the bombing, fbi director Robert Mueller, testifying to Congress, could say only that US intelligence now "believes" the plot was hatched in Afghanistan, though planned and implemented elsewhere.

 
 
Bush’s war on terror seized the opportunity to enhance the US control over the rest of the world, in sheer military terms.
 
 
And long after the source of the anthrax attack was localised to US government weapons laboratories, it has still not been identified. These are indications of how hard it may be to counter acts of terror targeting the rich and powerful in the future. Nevertheless, despite the thin evidence, the initial conclusion about 9/11 is presumably correct.

Next, the question: what are the reasons? On this, scholarship is virtually unanimous in taking the terrorists at their word, which matches their deeds for the past 20 years: their goal, in their terms, is to drive the infidels from Muslim lands, to overthrow the corrupt governments they impose and sustain, and to institute an extremist version of Islam.

More significant, at least for those who hope to reduce the likelihood of further crimes of a similar nature, are the background conditions from which the terrorist organisations arose, and that provide a mass reservoir of sympathetic understanding for at least parts of their message, even among those who despise and fear them. In George Bush's plaintive words, "Why do they hate us?" The question is not new, and answers are not hard to find. Forty-five years ago, President Dwight D. Eisenhower and his staff discussed what he called the "campaign of hatred against us" in the Arab world, "not by the governments but by the people". The basic reason, the National Security Council advised, is the recognition that the US supports corrupt and brutal governments that block democracy and development, and does so because of its concern "to protect its interest in Near East oil". The Wall Street Journal found much the same when it investigated attitudes of wealthy westernised Muslims after 9/11, feelings now exacerbated by specific US policies with regard to Israel-Palestine and Iraq.

Commentators generally prefer a more comforting answer: their anger is rooted in resentment of our freedom and love of democracy, their cultural failings tracing back many centuries, their inability to take part in the form of "globalisation" (in which they happily participate), and other such deficiencies. More comforting, perhaps, but not wise.

What about proper reaction? The answers are doubtless contentious, but at least the reaction should meet the most elementary moral standards: specifically, if an action is right for us, it is right for others; and if wrong for others, it is wrong for us. Those who reject that standard simply declare that acts are justified by power. One might ask what remains of the flood of commentary on this question (debates about "just war", etc) if this simple criterion is adopted.

To illustrate with a few uncontroversial cases, 40 years have passed since President John F. Kennedy ordered that "the terrors of the earth" must be visited upon Cuba until their leadership is eliminated, having violated good form by successful resistance to US-run invasion. The terrors were extremely serious, continuing into the 1990s. Twenty years have passed since President Reagan launched a terrorist war against Nicaragua, conducted with barbaric atrocities and vast destruction, leaving tens of thousands dead and the country ruined perhaps beyond recovery—and also leading to condemnation of the US for international terrorism by the World Court and the UN Security Council (in a resolution the US vetoed). But no one believes that Cuba or Nicaragua had the right to set off bombs in Washington or New York or to assassinate US political leaders. And it is all too easy to add many far more severe cases, up to the present.

Accordingly, those who accept elementary moral standards have some work to do to show that the US and Britain were justified in bombing Afghans in order to compel them to turn over people who the US suspected of criminal atrocities, the official war aim, announced by the president as the bombing began; or to overthrow their rulers, the war aim announced several weeks later.

The same moral standard holds of more nuanced proposals about an appropriate response to terrorist atrocities. The respected Anglo-American military historian Michael Howard proposed "a police operation conducted under the auspices of the United Nations... against a criminal conspiracy whose members should be hunted down and brought before an international court, where they would receive a fair trial and, if found guilty, be awarded an appropriate sentence" (Guardian, Foreign Affairs). That seems reasonable, though we may ask what the reaction would be to the suggestion that the proposal should be applied universally. That is unthinkable, and if the suggestion were to be made, it would arouse outrage and horror.

Similar questions arise with regard to the "Bush doctrine" of "pre-emptive strike" against suspected threats. It should be noted that the doctrine is not new. High-level planners are mostly holdovers from the Reagan administration, which argued that the bombing of Libya was justified under the UN Charter as "self-defence against future attack". Clinton planners advised "pre-emptive response" (including nuclear first strike). And the doctrine has earlier precedents. Nevertheless, the bold assertion of such a right is novel, and there is no secret as to whom the threat is addressed. The government and commentators are stressing loud and clear that they intend to apply the doctrine to Iraq. The elementary standard of universality, therefore, would appear to justify Iraqi pre-emptive terror against the US. Of course, no one accepts this conclusion.

Again, if we are willing to adopt elementary moral principles, obvious questions arise, and must be faced by those who advocate or tolerate the selective version of the doctrine of "pre-emptive response" that grants the right to those powerful enough to exercise it with little concern for what the world may think. And the burden of proof is not light, as is always true when the threat or use of violence is advocated or tolerated.

There is, of course, an easy counter to such simple arguments: WE are good, and THEY are evil. That useful principle trumps virtually any argument. Analysis of commentary and much of scholarship reveals that its roots commonly lie in that crucial principle, which is not argued but asserted. Occasionally, but rarely, some irritating creatures attempt to confront the core principle with the record of recent and contemporary history. We learn more about prevailing cultural norms by observing the reaction, and the interesting array of barriers erected to deter any lapse into this heresy. None of this, of course, is an invention of contemporary power centres and the dominant intellectual culture. Nonetheless, it merits attention, at least among those who have some interest in understanding where we stand and what may lie ahead.

Let us turn briefly to the question: what are the long-term consequences? In the longer term, I suspect that the crimes of 9/11 will accelerate tendencies that were already under way: the Bush doctrine is an illustration. As was predicted at once, governments throughout the world seized upon 9/11 as a window of opportunity to institute or escalate harsh and repressive programmes. Russia eagerly joined the "coalition against terror" expecting to receive authorisation for its terrible atrocities in Chechnya, and was not disappointed. China happily joined for similar reasons. Turkey was the first country to offer troops for the new phase of the US "war on terror", in gratitude, as the prime minister explained, for the US contribution to Turkey's campaign against its miserably-repressed Kurdish population, waged with extreme savagery and relying crucially on a huge flow of US arms. Turkey is highly praised for its achievements in these campaigns of state terror, including some of the worst atrocities of the grisly 1990s, and was rewarded by grant of authority to protect Kabul from terror, funded by the same superpower that provided the military means, and the diplomatic and ideological support, for its recent atrocities. Israel recognised that it would be able to crush Palestinians even more brutally, with even firmer US support. And so on throughout much of the world.

More democratic societies, including the US, instituted measures to impose discipline on the domestic population and to institute unpopular measures under the guise of "combating terror", exploiting the atmosphere of fear and the demand for "patriotism"—which in practice means: "You shut up and I'll pursue my own agenda relentlessly." The Bush administration used the opportunity to advance its assault against most of the population, and future generations, in service to the narrow corporate interests that dominate the administration to an extent even beyond the norm.

In brief, initial predictions were amply confirmed.

One major outcome is that the US, for the first time, has major military bases in Central Asia. These are important to position US multinationals favourably in the current "great game" to control the considerable resources of the region, but also to complete the encirclement of the world's major energy resources, in the Gulf region. The US base system targeting the Gulf extends from the Pacific to the Azores, but the closest reliable base before the Afghan war was Diego Garcia. Now that situation is much improved, and forceful intervention, if deemed appropriate, will be greatly facilitated.

The Bush administration perceives the new phase of the "war on terror" (which in many ways replicates the "war on terror" declared by the Reagan administration 20 years earlier) as an opportunity to expand its already overwhelming military advantages over the rest of the world, and to move on to other methods to ensure global dominance. Government thinking was articulated clearly by high officials when Prince Abdullah of Saudi Arabia visited the US in April to urge the administration to pay more attention to the reaction in the Arab world to its strong support for Israeli terror and repression. He was told, in effect, that the US did not care what he or other Arabs think. As the New York Times reported, a high official explained that "if he thought we were strong in Desert Storm, we're 10 times as strong today. This was to give him some idea what Afghanistan demonstrated about our capabilities". A senior defence analyst gave a simple gloss: others will "respect us for our toughness and won't mess with us". That stand too has many historical precedents, but in the post-9/11 world it gains new force.

We do not have internal documents, but it is reasonable to speculate that such consequences were one primary goal of the bombing of Afghanistan: to warn the world of what the US can do if someone steps out of line. The bombing of Serbia was undertaken for similar reasons. Its primary goal was to "ensure nato's credibility", as Blair and Clinton explained—not referring to the credibility of Norway or Italy, but of the US and its prime military client. That is a common theme of statecraft and the literature of international relations; and with some reason, as history amply reveals.

The basic issues of international society seem to me to remain much as they were, but 9/11 surely has induced changes, in some cases, with significant and not very attractive implications.


Reflections on 9-11 (copyright © 2002 by Noam Chomsky) is forthcoming in Noam Chomsky, 9-11, second edition (New York: Seven Stories Press, 2002). It was first published by Aftonbladet in Sweden, August 2002, and in 11 September–ett å#r efterå#t (September 11–One Year After) (Stockholm: Aftonbladet, 2002).

Bereaved Indians
To remember is to relive the trauma. Of reconstructing the event and wishing it had a different end. But death has a finality that sooner or later one has to accept. And the families who lost their dear ones to the tragedy—a sister, a brother, a husband, a daughter—are still grappling with the personal loss. Arun Venugopalan speaks to bereaved Indians in New York:
Arun Venugopal
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Rahimullah Yusufzai
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It was a war of unequals: rusty Soviet-era T-72s vs stealth fighters. The fall of Kabul was a walkover.
Peter Greste
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Kanti Bajpai
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Hoping for the US to fight India's fight over Kashmir is asking for a bit too much
V. Sudarshan
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Mike Marqusee
interview
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Rahul Sagar
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An 'externally flexible' Pakistan and Musharraf weather the jehadi storm, emerging the better for it
Ayaz Amir
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'9/11 was the totality of all that US foreign policy had added up to till that day.'
 
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Sep 27, 2002 12:00 AM
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In India cricket is religion to people and the players are demi-gods.To players cricket is the quickest method[compared to other sports and games] to earn money and respect. And to us Sachin Tendulkar is world’s best batsmanand simultenously world’s richest cricketer.his fame is so much that if his eye blink that’s news.Similarly in Brazil football is religion and footballer is the demi-god. Among them Ronaldo also not only Brazil’s but world’s heart-throb, his moon-cut changed football lovers hair style through-out the world, and one of the richest footballer in the world .Though Sachin- Ronaldo comparison irk many cricket lovers,reason behind cricket is played only in 10 countries [barring Canada, Kenya,Bangla Desh etc.] and our demi-gods play year after year against the same countries and players[and our average ranking 7 in Test and ODI] whereas football is played by almost all the countries and the no. of FIFA’s affiliated countries are more than 200 countries.
But my point [without hearting anyone]is to compare Sachin and Ronaldo as to what is the contribution of both of them for their countries.In 1998 French World Cup final against host Franch Ronaldo’s heart-beats stoppedfor aminute just before the start of the final,he was hospitalized and Brazil stunned the football world. After 4 years the same Ronaldo not fully recovered his injury to participate in the World Cup 2002, and returned his debt to his motherland --Brazil became the world champion and Ronaldo won the ‘Golden Boot’ award as the highest scorer.
But there has been a single or two instances where due to Tendulkar’s contribution India won in a crucial match. Because to Sachin cricket is now ‘miltch-cow’, he can play well in the flat wicket, he can make century for record purpose but not for country’s win in vital period. During his captaincy he easily blamed Mohd. Azharuddin and others for non-performancebecause he knows he is media and people’s dearling and the buck of his failure could be passed over others nobody would raised finger. It’s true when his bat singing from government to media everybody goes ga-ga over his batting—but nobody dares to ask why in the required moment he always fails.[Iknow, The Pioneer also no courage to publish this article] And here Ronaldo not only in popularity can easily beat Sachin , but his will power to give his motherland the world’s top-honour makes his country-men proud. Ronaldo is also one of the richest footballer in the world but his richness is much valuable than Sachin’s money power. To Sachin & Co it’s a business first next others whereas Ronaldo & Co first motherland then money. Because they believe result produces money and that is the reason behind scoring a goal in a tight international match. Sorry to say we are fool that in the give and take world, we the ordinary Indians are losers,cricket is the loser, even India is loser, but the players sponsors and media [to hype it] is grabbing as possible . Why not when our government is ‘dil-daria’ to waive off custom duty of Tendulkar’s Ferrari Car as a small
consideration for his own record.




bidyut kumar chatterjee
faridabad, india
Sep 26, 2002 12:00 AM
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It’s ridiculous of Sanjeev Sharma (Letters - Sept 30) to relate Islam with violence. We will always be wrong if we judge a religion based on the crimes committed by a handful of people who belong to that religion, even if they commit those crimes in the name of religion.

The very name Islam comes from the Arabic root word 'salama' which means peace. Islam is a religion, which is based upon achieving peace through the submission to the will of GOD. Thus, by this very simple linguistic definition, one can ascertain as to what the nature of this religion is. But the question arises that If such a religion is based on the notion of peace, then how is it that some acts done by its adherents are contrary to peace? The answer is simple. Such actions, if not sanctioned by the religion, have no place with it. They are not Islamic and should not be thought of as Islamic. Unfortunately Islam is still in an infant stage of evolution, mostly because of the lack of visionaries and people of strength. But mentioning Islam as religion of violence is certainly absurd.
If we look at history around the world we can point out culprits in every religion, who have used their religion at one time or the other to commit atrocities. If we were to judge religions based upon their extremist attitude and violence then the list will go long.
One can relate Hinduism also with violence based on the Delhi riots against Sikhs in 1984, or killing of Graham Staines in Orissa or when nuns are raped, or when dalits are burned alive or when innocent children and women are killed in Gujraat. One can relates Christianity also with violence when there was is a terrorist attack by the Irish Republican Army (IRA) or the Christian insurgents in North East India. Sikhism can also be related with violence when there are atrocities committed in the name of Khalistan. The list will go on. It’s grave mistake of considering the culprits who commit these crimes Hindu, Muslim, Christian etc., first and criminals second. We must know that they are the criminals first and anything else later.
Kaunain Shahidi
Buraydah, Kingdom of Saudi Arabia
Sep 14, 2002 12:00 AM
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I also add Christopher Hitchens
to the list of lefties who were critical of
Taliban. He in fact fell out with Chomsky,
Edward Herman, Tariq Ali on the issue of
islamic fundamentalism in general and
Afghan war in particular. Some times it is
difficult to agree with his positions,
but here is an example that nails the lie that left is silent on the issue of terrorism.
Srikanth B
London, UK
Sep 14, 2002 12:00 AM
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I agree with Srikanth. There is something really funny going on in the world for the last one year.
In fact, several Indian leftist intellectuals actually criticised even the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan. Their publications both in the media and as books are available all over if anybody will want to look it up. Robert Fisk, whose name has been brought up by someone the other day, wrote perhaps the most trenchant criticisms of Yasser Arafat. Edward Said never tires of criticising Islamic terror groups. Editor of the new left review tariq ali recently wrote a book titled 'clash of fundamentalisms' which contains very sophisticated criticism of osama bin laden.

why then do some people go on claiming that the left never criticises islamic fundamentalism ?

I think the reason is that the left's criticisms are never restricted to islamic fundamentalism. they are criticisms of fundamentalisms of all kinds: the market fundamentalism of the US where you can even buy your own funeral, the hindu nationalism which is trying to overturn whatever decency Indians were able to achieve through democratic struggles in the form of the Indian constitution, and of course the islamic fundamentalism which refuses to engage with rational thinking which actually underlies the development of Islam all through history.

I think when people say that the leftists have not criticised Islamic fundamentalists, all they are saying is this : the left is not Hindu fundamentalist, or that the left is not christian fundamentalist. But of course it is not. Should we be apologetic about it ?


rajan
,
Sep 13, 2002 12:00 AM
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One of the first acts of Taliban, soon after
capturing Kabul was to commit gruesome murder
of Afghanistan's former communist president
Najibulla who was hiding inside UN compound,
thereby giving a foretaste of things to come.
This was after US sponsored Mujahideen threw out
USSR and descended into brutal civil war -
killing, raping, pillaging everywhere. CIA
supported and channeled money to these
factions with express aim of defeating USSR
and they succeeded. Taliban grew out of this
chaos by either defeating or bribing these
Mujahideen to its side. Given this, it is rather
puzzling to hear that leftists or
intellectuals did not protest against
Taliban's odious regime. The fact is they did.
Check up some history. That they are not heard
is a different matter. When Taliban came to power
USA, as The Economist put it, gave a "polite
welcome". Oil politics and pipelines interested
US in early years of Taliban government. Only
when woman groups and so called leftists started
protesting against Taliban's human rights
abuses, particularly against women, Clinton
administration distanced itself from the regime
and never recognised it.
US government's new found love for human rights
situation in Afghanistan started later, exact
date being September-11, to create an excuse
to bombing Afghanistan.
Again leftists have been attacking Saddam Hussein
much before he became favorite demon for the
Western establishment. Same leftists
are opposing the war against him. Some
perspective is in order why this is happening in
the light of what happened to Afghanistan.
Srikanth B
London, UK
Sep 13, 2002 12:00 AM
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NALLANTHIGHAL:
No I've not heard of RAWA but I did not hear a word of protest from our worthy intellectuals against Taliban or for that matter.At the same time the Roys and Chomskys dish out essay after essay against the American attack on Taliban.

The "perfectly functional" govt of Afghanistan was a puppet regime of the former Soviet union.Or just because it was installed by a communist nation it becomes a very legitimate govt??
"it takes wild imagination to claim that the leftists are in love with the taliban"
I'm not suggesting the above.But the leftists are so frustrated with the rejection of their philosophy everywhere that they will citicize anything the US does just for the sake of critcizing.
As for the American threat to world peace,it is a threat only if u allow the Americans to use u.But Islamic fundametalism is evil and it's going to affect every nation which believes in freedom and democracy.Its a question of choosing the lesser evil.
prasanna
Singapore, Singapore
Sep 12, 2002 12:00 AM
13
The analysis of the after affects of 9/11 by Noam Chomsky will enlighten us about the role U.S.A. is playing as the global police.
M.R.R.Prem kumar
chennai, India
Sep 11, 2002 12:00 AM
12
By the Way, I have a friend who has as radical view as Chomsky. Would Outlook care to publish.
Experts from his views: " the shit is the best dish....."
Does Not
Calcutta, India
Sep 11, 2002 12:00 AM
11
Chomsky cleverly avoids talking about US support to General Mussaraf. A third rate millitary dictator of one third world country. Why? Are there no issues involved about democracies etc. Or is it that Chomskys Kashmir cause is aligned with that of Mussarafs? He follows a simple rule " a lie however untrue and stupid repeated from rooftop, repeated often and repeated loud is heard" and when people hear; its practically impossible for them to decide who is telling the truth. He never mentions about partition wiping out hindus in Pakistan or exodus of hindus from Kashmir;when discussing Kashmir.But he cites human rights violation records; some of which are itself disputable. And some of which are unavoidable in any combat operations. Chomsky tries to find reason for justifying terrorism but does not care to analyse the operational difficulties of army. He is in true sense is 'Devils Advocate'. Somehow, god's still winning. (His writing about Russia, India and other countries bring out a complex advocate at that.)
Does Not
Calcutta, India
Sep 11, 2002 12:00 AM
10
prasanna says :
"Why did the leftist "intellectuals" not protest against the Talibans's oppressive and barbaric rule??"
Have you heard of an organization called Rawa ?

And incidentally it was to overthrow the perfectly functional 'leftist' government which had women ministers in afghanistan that the cia trained firt the mujahideen and then the taliban and pumped in 6 billion dollars worth weapons and qurans with 'jehadi' interpretations. i am not cooking up these things. state department officials have openly admitted these things.
it takes wild imagination to claim that the leftists are in love with the taliban.


"It's easy to criticize law abiding,democratic countries but it takes real courage to criticize the likes of Taliban"
Law abiding ? America ? Comeon you must be kidding. or you must be from another planet. America has got immunity against every single International law. Check it out.

"The fact remains that Islamic terrorism is going to be the biggest threat to world peace in the coming years."

There is no question about it. Islamic terror remains the biggest threat to world peace in the coming years. It will be defeated too. But we will have another evil resurrected in its place, because Americans will go bankrupt in a world without 'evil'. We have seen it for at least 60 years now. havent we ?
nallanthighal
,
Sep 11, 2002 12:00 AM
9
What I am trying to point out is this:
Why did the leftist "intellectuals" not protest against the Talibans's oppressive and barbaric rule??It's because of the US invasion that the people of Kabul are able to listen to songs,play football etc.Has anybody seen their celebration when Kabul was liberated from the Taliban??It's easy to criticize law abiding,democratic countries but it takes real courage to criticize the likes of Taliban,for which the rules of civilized world do not apply.
For those who say that the 9/11 event was a result of Amercan policies in middle east I want to ask a question:
Are they going to justify the Kalchhak incident in Kashmir by pointing out Indian policies in Kashmir??The fact remains that Islamic terrorism is going to be the biggest threat to world peace in the coming years.
Prasanna
singapore,
Sep 11, 2002 12:00 AM
8
What I meant to say was, I'm not trying to put down any other reader's comments about Chomsky. I think this space is to argue HIS article, not any of OUR opinions. Please avoid fingerpointing at other readers in your overzealousness to criticize or protect Chomsky. I will try to avoid it as well. Everyone here is pretty well read and aware of what theyre saying as I'm sure you are too. Peace! :)
Aanand Krishnan
Sunnyvale, USA
Sep 11, 2002 12:00 AM
7
THe word ulterior also means "lying beyond or outside the area of immediate interest". Sept 11 was the immediate interest, Cuba and Nicaragua weren't. By mentioning them in an issue that is clearly between Arabs and the US, Chomsky reveals that he is interested primarily in defaming America, not in telling us about Sept 11 and its effects.

BTW, I like Chomsky's writings a lot and think his book "Rogue States" is seminal. Unfortunately, he talks about the same things ALL THE TIME. Tell me, has he ever written anything without mentioning the Sandinista govt or the Haitian crisis? He has nothign new to offer and thats why I'm questioning Outlook's publishing his articles ALL THE TIME.

And again, we're discussing Chomsky's article here, not my opinions, aren't we ? There's nothing personal in any of this! :)
Aanand Krishnan
Sunnyvale, USA
Sep 11, 2002 12:00 AM
6
aanand krishnan says:
"Clearly he (chomsky) has the ulterior agenda of diatribing the US at every conceivable opporunity."

why do you call it 'ulterior' as though, he is trying to hide that fact ? chomsky and fisk and uvnery have never concealed the fact that they are criticizing america.
you are the one who is 'diatribing' because, you are imputing ulterior motives to them, when clearly they are doing it openly.


nallanthighal
,
Sep 10, 2002 12:00 AM
5
The issue is not whether Chomsky is leftist or I am rightist. Why does he have to talk about Cuba, Haiti and Nicaragua when asked about Sept 11? Clearly he has the ulterior agenda of diatribing the US at every conceivable opporunity. While this might make interesting reading, its disgusting if you have to listen to Chomsky say all these things at every available instance.

There's nothing rightist about what I'm saying. I'm merely questioning the idea of repeatedly publishing articles of Chomsky, Fisk, Howard Zinn, Edward Said and Uri Avnery. All these people are well-known leftists.
Aanand Krishnan
Sunnyvale, CA
Sep 10, 2002 12:00 AM
4
Why don't the likes of Anand Krishnan and Prasanna spare us from the rightist propaganda?
,
Sep 10, 2002 12:00 AM
3
Prasanna says:

"The world would be better place without these people."

Thats as tolerant as Ayatollah Khomeini.


nallanthighal
chennai, india
Sep 10, 2002 12:00 AM
2
Could not agree with u more.People like Chomsky are incorrigible leftist scumbugs who do not have the courage to criticise the Islamic fundamentalists.The current magasasay award winner ,Pandey,in one such person.The world would be better place without these people.
Prasanna
Singapore, Singapore
Sep 09, 2002 12:00 AM
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Noam Chomsky's article "Mirror Crack
d" reeks of bias and a painfully leftist attitude. There is no equivalence - moral or political, between what terrorists did on Sept 11th. Politically, the US has committed atrocities for financial and strategic gain. Sept 11th did not give any strategic gain to any country. Kabul lost. Why doesn't Chomsky admit that those 19 peope simply were a bunch of terrorists who wouldve blown up the Giza complex or the taj Mahal in Cairo if they could?

Why talk about Cuba and Nicaragua when the issue is clearly between Arabs and America ? Once again, Chomsky's attitude of misleading the reader is exemplary. What did they have to do with Sept 11 ? Chomsky, as usual uses every opportunity to demonize US and its policies. You don't have to have asked Chomsky to write about "Sept 11" - he wouldve written the same, vituperative article even if you asked him to write about Santa Claus.

Only a blinkered and devious person could write "it was assumed that al Qaeda was reponsible." It is typical Chomsky boilerplate - to twist facts conveniently without stating a lie. Reading Chomsky, you might think that the US was 'alleging' al Qaeda was reponsible.

Honestly, Outlook needs to spare us with the constant Chomsky exposure. We all know, due to your diligent support of his writings, that there is a linguistics professor in MIT who talks absolute rot most of the time. If we're interested in reading him in the future, we will do so on our own. Please publish something fresh and spare us from leftist propaganda.

Aanand Krishnan
Sunnyvale, USA
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